The reality beyond matter -Anatta

madurax86

Member
Jun 29, 2006
4,385
88
0
AtulaSiriwardane said:
Earlier post answers this.
Wasnt talking only about dhamma.org
i tried to sign up and they ask for a username its getting fishy :P
anyway india is a world of backstabbing business men and cunning people they'll do anything for money not only india SL is like that too
take sai baba lol total nonsense
i'd rather goto a monastery than attending that lol
 
Aug 19, 2008
11,653
167
0
Sri Lanka
madurax86 said:
Wasnt talking only about dhamma.org
i tried to sign up and they ask for a username its getting fishy :P
anyway india is a world of backstabbing business men and cunning people they'll do anything for money not only india SL is like that too
take sai baba lol total nonsense
i'd rather goto a monastery than attending that lol

No need to signup..
that is only for old students who had practiced.

Read this too,

There are three steps to the training given in a meditation course. First, one must abstain from any action, physical or vocal, which disturbs the peace and harmony of others. One cannot work to liberate oneself from impurities of the mind while at the same time continuing to perform deeds of body and speech which only multiply them. Therefore, a code of morality is the essential first step of the practice. One undertakes not to kill, not to steal, not to commit sexual misconduct, not to tell lies, and not to use intoxicants. By abstaining from such actions, one allows the mind to quiet down sufficiently in order to proceed further.
The next step is to develop some mastery over this wild mind by training it to remain fixed on a single object, the breath. One tries to keep one's attention on the respiration for as long as possible. This is not a breathing exercise; one does not regulate the breath. Instead, one observes natural respiration as it is, as it comes in, as it goes out. In this way one further calms the mind so that it is no longer overpowered by intense negativities. At the same time, one is concentrating the mind, making it sharp and penetrating, capable of the work of insight.
These first two steps, living a moral life, and controlling the mind, are very necessary and beneficial in themselves, but they will lead to suppression of negativities unless one takes the third step: purifying the mind of defilements by developing insight into one's own nature. This is Vipassana: experiencing one's own reality by the systematic and dispassionate observation within oneself of the ever-changing mind-matter phenomenon manifesting itself as sensations. This is the culmination of the teaching of the Buddha: self-purification by self-observation.
It can be practiced by one and all. Everyone faces the problem of suffering. It is a universal malady which requires a universal remedy, not a sectarian one. When one suffers from anger, it's not Buddhist anger, Hindu anger, or Christian anger. Anger is anger. When one becomes agitated as a result of this anger, this agitation is not Christian, or Jewish, or Muslim. The malady is universal. The remedy must also be universal.
Vipassana is such a remedy. No one will object to a code of living which respects the peace and harmony of others. No one will object to developing control over the mind. No one will object to developing insight into one's own nature, by which it is possible to free the mind of negativities. Vipassana is a universal path.
Observing reality as it is by observing the truth inside—this is knowing oneself directly and experientially. As one practices, one keeps freeing oneself from the misery of mental impurities. From the gross, external, apparent truth, one penetrates to the ultimate truth of mind and matter. Then one transcends that, and experiences a truth which is beyond mind and matter, beyond time and space, beyond the conditioned field of relativity: the truth of total liberation from all defilements, all impurities, all suffering. Whatever name one gives this ultimate truth is irrelevant; it is the final goal of everyone.
May you all experience this ultimate truth. May all people be free from misery. May they enjoy real peace, real harmony, real happiness.
MAY ALL BEINGS BE HAPPY





Full text
http://www.dhamma.org/en/art.shtml
 
Aug 19, 2008
11,653
167
0
Sri Lanka
Some more...

How much does the course cost?

Each student who attends a Vipassana course is given this gift by a previous student. There is no charge for either the teaching, or for room and board. All Vipassana courses worldwide are run on a strictly voluntary donation basis. At the end of your course, if you have benefited from the experience, you are welcome to donate for the coming course, according to your volition and your means.


How much are teachers paid to conduct courses?

Teachers receive no payment, donations or other material benefit. They are required to have their own private means of support. This rule means that some of them may have less time for teaching, but it protects students from exploitation and it guards against commercialism. In this tradition, teachers give Vipassana purely as a service to others. All they get is the satisfaction of seeing people's happiness at the end of ten days.


Do I have to be a Buddhist to practice Vipassana?

People from many religions and no religion have found the meditation course helpful and beneficial. Vipassana is an art of living, a way of life. While it is the essence of what the Buddha taught, it is not a religion; rather, it is the cultivation of human values leading to a life which is good for oneself and good for others.


http://www.dhamma.org/en/qanda.shtml
 
Last edited:

psprasa

Member
Jan 6, 2009
214
0
0
its a great thread guys
one of the best i have seen on EK
so much to learn and so little time

i have to admit its way over my head
but then it stimulating to learn

can anyone comment on the 4th dimension more and possibility of parallel universes

i apologize if this is not in context of the thread
 
Aug 19, 2008
11,653
167
0
Sri Lanka
psprasa said:
its a great thread guys
one of the best i have seen on EK
so much to learn and so little time

i have to admit its way over my head
but then it stimulating to learn

can anyone comment on the 4th dimension more and possibility of parallel universes

i apologize if this is not in context of the thread
Its ok to discuss it, but I think it deserves a thread,,,
sounds interesting...
Why don't you post a thread... I haven't explored both of them yet...
 

kosandpol

Well-known member
  • Jun 10, 2008
    45,329
    1,492
    113
    psprasa said:
    its a great thread guys
    one of the best i have seen on EK
    so much to learn and so little time

    i have to admit its way over my head
    but then it stimulating to learn

    can anyone comment on the 4th dimension more and possibility of parallel universes

    i apologize if this is not in context of the thread
    4th Dimension is time. This is according to the Theory of Relativity.
    You can assume parallel universes based in this but its nothing like the Sci Fi stuff.
    For example, if we take this instance to have X,Y,Z and T1 as time, another infinite number of parallel universes can exist at the same instance with X,Y,Z but T from 1 to n.
     
    Aug 19, 2008
    11,653
    167
    0
    Sri Lanka
    What makes Karma.
    Chetana makes karma.

    We react all the time...
    consciously or unconsciously

    Some vibration touches our senses
    or mind imagines something.
    -Phassa-
    l
    A sensation is created.
    -Vedana-
    l
    We recognize it
    -Sangna-
    l
    We may Like it, Dislike it or Neutral toward it.
    -RAGA, Dwesha or Moha-
    -Sankhara-
    l
    A consciouness created.
    -Vingnana-

    This consciouness is recorded
    and affects sangna with next experience of same type
    pleasent, unpleasent or neutral.

    We need an example.
    Let's assume this happens for a pure being,
    just to make it clear.
    l
    This being feels hungry,
    searches for food.
    finds and eats.
    l
    Food creates a pleasent sensation.
    Being recognize food as pleasent and likes it.
    Raga Sankhara is created.
    Now he craves for tasty food.

    Phassa pachchaya Vedana pachchaya Thanha pachchaya Upadana

    Next time when he feels hungry
    this Sankhara makes him search for the same food
    which he attached now with craving,
    He wants to enjoy the same pleasant sensations.
    This time he is more aggressive, determined
    and
    this time his search is for tasty food
    He thinks it is for hunger but in reality he craves for the taste.

    This is Upadaana,
    (Sankhara is the medium and Upadana is the power.)
    -I'll elaborate this seperately-

    Upadana pachchaya Bhava

    Bhava is the time one needs to release
    the unnecessary energy he created within
    by working on little thanha
    making it deeper and stronger.
    Upadana creates Bhava
    making the lifeline
    -little or much- longer
    according to the intensity of Upadana
    in this case attachment for the taste
    or in reality, the pleasant sensation.

    He commits a Karma based on Lobha.
    (Yes, So dangerous)

    All these are inter related.

    We didn't even touch the remedy
    which is very simple.
    Remedy is related to Avijja
    which creates Sankhara.​
     
    Aug 19, 2008
    11,653
    167
    0
    Sri Lanka
    kosandpol said:
    4th Dimension is time. This is according to the Theory of Relativity.
    You can assume parallel universes based in this but its nothing like the Sci Fi stuff.
    For example, if we take this instance to have X,Y,Z and T1 as time, another infinite number of parallel universes can exist at the same instance with X,Y,Z but T from 1 to n.
    Which means another time?
     

    psprasa

    Member
    Jan 6, 2009
    214
    0
    0
    kosandpol said:
    4th Dimension is time. This is according to the Theory of Relativity.
    You can assume parallel universes based in this but its nothing like the Sci Fi stuff.
    For example, if we take this instance to have X,Y,Z and T1 as time, another infinite number of parallel universes can exist at the same instance with X,Y,Z but T from 1 to n.

    thanks for the reply buddy
    some things i thought i would like all your comments on

    although we think time is linear is it?

    we have been used to thinking time travels straight and forward does it?

    and also we have created our own reference points like 24 hours of the day 365 days for a year etc ( yes based on occurrences in the solar system) but do we know its the correct reference point

    and if not we may realize another reality like a paradigm shift

    theoretically Einstein's relativity theory says if you can travel faster than the speed of light you will be able to move back and forward in time ( leading to all the exaggerations and imagination of Hollywood)

    i think prof stephen Hawkings brief history of time was on this subject ( i have tried reading the book, but its complex)
     
    Aug 19, 2008
    11,653
    167
    0
    Sri Lanka
    psprasa said:
    thanks for the reply buddy
    some things i thought i would like all your comments on

    although we think time is linear is it?

    we have been used to thinking time travels straight and forward does it?

    and also we have created our own reference points like 24 hours of the day 365 days for a year etc ( yes based on occurrences in the solar system) but do we know its the correct reference point

    and if not we may realize another reality like a paradigm shift

    theoretically Einstein's relativity theory says if you can travel faster than the speed of light you will be able to move back and forward in time ( leading to all the exaggerations and imagination of Hollywood)

    i think prof stephen Hawkings brief history of time was on this subject ( i have tried reading the book, but its complex)

    Every thing is changing
    and in relation to that
    we feel time.
    Nothing much.

    :)
     

    kosandpol

    Well-known member
  • Jun 10, 2008
    45,329
    1,492
    113
    psprasa said:
    thanks for the reply buddy
    some things i thought i would like all your comments on

    although we think time is linear is it?

    we have been used to thinking time travels straight and forward does it?

    and also we have created our own reference points like 24 hours of the day 365 days for a year etc ( yes based on occurrences in the solar system) but do we know its the correct reference point

    and if not we may realize another reality like a paradigm shift

    theoretically Einstein's relativity theory says if you can travel faster than the speed of light you will be able to move back and forward in time ( leading to all the exaggerations and imagination of Hollywood)

    i think prof stephen Hawkings brief history of time was on this subject ( i have tried reading the book, but its complex)

    Relativity theory doesnt say that if you move faster than light, you can go back and forward in time.
    If you move faster than light (not practically possible as mass turns to energy at speed of light), it would appear as that you are going back in time since light emitted from something that happened in past still havent reached you.
    time is always linear. I dont know enough to explain why but that's how it is.
    The reference point is just that. A reference point. There is no "correct" or "incorrect" time.
    For our work we use the 24 hours based on Earth's rotation on its axis.
    If you want, you can take jupiter as reference point as well (even though it may not be practical).
     
    Last edited:

    Scarface

    Well-known member
  • Dec 8, 2008
    1,711
    471
    83
    morphine base
    if time is another dimension why do we feel it as passes quickly at some times ;)

    why sometimes we do we feel time is not moving. just think when we knowing the answers to a exam paper.time is moving very quickly.

    but when we dont know coreect answers...hour or two feels like days.

    why we dont feel time when we are with our loved ones.why do feel time when we are in the morning office hours.


    answer to the time is there..

    hint-thought processing, Unconsciousness

    its up to you find what is time :D
     
    Aug 19, 2008
    11,653
    167
    0
    Sri Lanka
    Scarface said:
    if time is another dimension why do we feel it as passes quickly at some times ;)

    why sometimes we do we feel time is not moving. just think when we knowing the answers to a exam paper.time is moving very quickly.

    but when we dont know coreect answers...hour or two feels like days.

    why we dont feel time when we are with our loved ones.why do feel time when we are in the morning office hours.


    answer to the time is there..

    hint-thought processing, Unconsciousness

    its up to you find what is time :D

    Everything we know and feel is relative.
    Clock is a great idea for this problem.
    :lol:
     

    Scarface

    Well-known member
  • Dec 8, 2008
    1,711
    471
    83
    morphine base
    AtulaSiriwardane said:
    Everything we know and feel is relative.
    Clock is a great idea for this problem.
    :lol:

    yea thats the problem..time is a feel .i all the feeling are based on our unconsciouses mind.so.......there it goes.:)

    also there are quite a lot differences between ordinary three dimensions & time.i hope someone could explain these things to us .:D.