U.S. Scraps F-35 Aerial Display at Aero India, Fearing Embarrassing Showdown with Russia’s Su-57

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    The cancellation of the aerial demonstrations by the U.S. F-35 and F-16 fighter jets has sparked widespread speculation, with many suggesting that it was a move to avoid unfavorable comparisons with the Russian-made Su-57, which is widely regarded as having superior flight performance, particularly at low speeds.

    Russia’s formidable fifth-generation fighter, the Sukhoi Su-57 Felon , made a commanding appearance at Aero India 2025 in Bengaluru, a move rumored to have rattled the United States into an unexpected retreat.​

    sparked widespread speculation, with many suggesting that it was a move to avoid unfavorable comparisons with the Russian-made Su-57, which is widely regarded as having superior flight performance, particularly at low speeds.
    Russia’s formidable fifth-generation fighter, the Sukhoi , made a commanding appearance at Aero India 2025 in Bengaluru, a move rumored to have rattled the United States into an unexpected retreat.


    In a stunning twist, the U.S. abruptly scrapped plans for its F-35 Lightning II and F-16 fighters to take to the skies, reducing them to mere static displays.

    Meanwhile, the Su-57 Felon capitalized on the moment, dominating the airspace with a mesmerizing display of power, agility, and cutting-edge technology—an unmistakable statement of aerial supremacy.


    Russia’s Ambassador to India, Denis Alipov, reportedly stated that the U.S. decision to cancel the aerial demonstrations for the F-35 and F-16 at Aero India “shows that its competitor (F-35) is unwilling to compete fairly.”

    The abrupt cancellation of the U.S. fighter aircraft demonstrations has ignited a firestorm of speculation, with many believing it was a calculated move to evade an inevitable and unfavorable showdown with the Russian-built Su-57.
     

    S.GUNE

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    Still russians didn't send they're su 57 fighter for any air show. It is closely hidden secret of Russia...
     

    priyade

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    It's not the su 57 they send, it's the T50 demo unit

    The "Su-57" is the production name for a Russian stealth fighter jet, while "T-50" refers to its prototype designation, meaning the T-50 is essentially the development version of the Su-57; in simpler terms, the Su-57 is the final, operational aircraft, while the T-50 was the prototype used during testing and development stages
     

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    The cancellation of the aerial demonstrations by the U.S. F-35 and F-16 fighter jets has sparked widespread speculation, with many suggesting that it was a move to avoid unfavorable comparisons with the Russian-made Su-57, which is widely regarded as having superior flight performance, particularly at low speeds.

    Russia’s formidable fifth-generation fighter, the Sukhoi Su-57 Felon , made a commanding appearance at Aero India 2025 in Bengaluru, a move rumored to have rattled the United States into an unexpected retreat.​

    sparked widespread speculation, with many suggesting that it was a move to avoid unfavorable comparisons with the Russian-made Su-57, which is widely regarded as having superior flight performance, particularly at low speeds.
    Russia’s formidable fifth-generation fighter, the Sukhoi , made a commanding appearance at Aero India 2025 in Bengaluru, a move rumored to have rattled the United States into an unexpected retreat.


    In a stunning twist, the U.S. abruptly scrapped plans for its F-35 Lightning II and F-16 fighters to take to the skies, reducing them to mere static displays.

    Meanwhile, the Su-57 Felon capitalized on the moment, dominating the airspace with a mesmerizing display of power, agility, and cutting-edge technology—an unmistakable statement of aerial supremacy.


    Russia’s Ambassador to India, Denis Alipov, reportedly stated that the U.S. decision to cancel the aerial demonstrations for the F-35 and F-16 at Aero India “shows that its competitor (F-35) is unwilling to compete fairly.”

    The abrupt cancellation of the U.S. fighter aircraft demonstrations has ignited a firestorm of speculation, with many believing it was a calculated move to evade an inevitable and unfavorable showdown with the Russian-built Su-57.

    F - 35 එක්ක Su - 57 compare කරන්නෙ මොන මරි මෝඩයද හුත්තො. F-35 එක සම්පූර්ණයෙන්ම වෙනස් flight characteristics ටිකකටනෙ හදල තියෙන්නෙ. අ‍ා‍දි කාලෙ වගේ dog fight කරන්නවත්, maneuvers දාන්නවත් නෙවෙයි එ‍්ක තියෙන්නෙ. රුසියාවෙ සම්පූර්ණ Flight dogma එකම වෙනස්. උන්ගෙ design එක තියෙන්නෙ තනියෙන් පොර ජාතක ලියන type එකේ.

    අ‍ැමරිකාව තනිකරම integrated war fighting පැත්තට focus කරන්නෙ. F - 35 එකට Su - 57 එක්ක බාල් නැටුම් නටන්න උවමනාවක් නෑනෙ. F - 35 එකක් පැත්ත පලාතකවත් තියෙනවා කියල detect කරගන්නත් කලින් එ‍්කෙන් Su - 57 එකට හුකවල අ‍ැරල ඉවරයි. කිලෝමීටර් සීයක් විතර අ‍ෑතින් ඉඳල හමන්නල අරින්නෙ. අනික කොච්චර කිව්වත් F - 35 එකේ ගොඩක් parts NATO රටවලින් source කරලා jointly develop කරල තියෙන්නෙ export කරන්න okay විදිහට. අවුරුදු හතලිස් ගාණක් පරණ F - 16 නම් කොහොමත් compare කරන එක බූරු කමක්නෙ.

    Su - 57 එක මොන අ‍ාච්චිගෙ වැඩ දැම්මත් හොඳට හුකා ගන්නෙ F - 22 Raptor එකක් එක්ක හැමනෙන්ඩ අ‍ාව දවසට තමයි. එ‍්ක වෙන් නෑ හැබැයි F - 22 export කරන් නෑනෙ. අ‍ැමරිකාව එක්ක direct හැප්පෙන්න අ‍ාව දවසක තමයි එ‍් අඩව්ව බලා ගන්න වෙන්නෙ.

    හැබැයි ඉන්දියාව වගේ බලන් අතේ ගහන මෝඩ රටකට ඉතින් Su - 57 එක මාර චූන්. 😅😅.
     

    priyade

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    F - 35 එක්ක Su - 57 compare කරන්නෙ මොන මරි මෝඩයද හුත්තො. F-35 එක සම්පූර්ණයෙන්ම වෙනස් flight characteristics ටිකකටනෙ හදල තියෙන්නෙ. අ‍ා‍දි කාලෙ වගේ dog fight කරන්නවත්, maneuvers දාන්නවත් නෙවෙයි එ‍්ක තියෙන්නෙ. රුසියාවෙ සම්පූර්ණ Flight dogma එකම වෙනස්. උන්ගෙ design එක තියෙන්නෙ තනියෙන් පොර ජාතක ලියන type එකේ.

    අ‍ැමරිකාව තනිකරම integrated war fighting පැත්තට focus කරන්නෙ. F - 35 එකට Su - 57 එක්ක බාල් නැටුම් නටන්න උවමනාවක් නෑනෙ. F - 35 එකක් පැත්ත පලාතකවත් තියෙනවා කියල detect කරගන්නත් කලින් එ‍්කෙන් Su - 57 එකට හුකවල අ‍ැරල ඉවරයි. කිලෝමීටර් සීයක් විතර අ‍ෑතින් ඉඳල හමන්නල අරින්නෙ. අනික කොච්චර කිව්වත් F - 35 එකේ ගොඩක් parts NATO රටවලින් source කරලා jointly develop කරල තියෙන්නෙ export කරන්න okay විදිහට. අවුරුදු හතලිස් ගාණක් පරණ F - 16 නම් කොහොමත් compare කරන එක බූරු කමක්නෙ.

    Su - 57 එක මොන අ‍ාච්චිගෙ වැඩ දැම්මත් හොඳට හුකා ගන්නෙ F - 22 Raptor එකක් එක්ක හැමනෙන්ඩ අ‍ාව දවසට තමයි. එ‍්ක වෙන් නෑ හැබැයි F - 22 export කරන් නෑනෙ. අ‍ැමරිකාව එක්ක direct හැප්පෙන්න අ‍ාව දවසක තමයි එ‍් අඩව්ව බලා ගන්න වෙන්නෙ.

    හැබැයි ඉන්දියාව වගේ බලන් අතේ ගහන මෝඩ රටකට ඉතින් Su - 57 එක මාර චූන්. 😅😅.
    F - 35 එකක් පැත්ත පලාතකවත් තියෙනවා කියල detect කරගන්නත් කලින් එ‍්කෙන් Su - 57 එකට හුකවල අ‍ැරල ඉවරයි.

    :lol::lol:

    When comparing the radar range of a Su-57 to an F-35, the Su-57 generally has a longer detection range due to its advanced radar system, the N036 Byelka, which can detect targets at a greater distance, especially against larger radar cross-section aircraft like the F-35;

    The Su-57 fighter jet's radar, known as the N036 Byelka, has a detection range of up to 400 kilometers (250 miles), allowing it to detect targets at a considerable distance

    The F-35's radar, the AN/APG-81, has a detection range exceeding 80 nautical miles (150 kilometers),

    Notable specifications of the Su-57 include a top speed of Mach 2 (approximately 2,136 km/h), a combat range of about 1,900 kilometers, and the ability to carry a variety of weapons in its internal bays and on external hardpoints.

    The Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II has a maximum speed of Mach 1.6, which is (approximately 1,200 miles per hour)
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    F - 35 එකක් පැත්ත පලාතකවත් තියෙනවා කියල detect කරගන්නත් කලින් එ‍්කෙන් Su - 57 එකට හුකවල අ‍ැරල ඉවරයි.

    :lol::lol:

    When comparing the radar range of a Su-57 to an F-35, the Su-57 generally has a longer detection range due to its advanced radar system, the N036 Byelka, which can detect targets at a greater distance, especially against larger radar cross-section aircraft like the F-35;

    The Su-57 fighter jet's radar, known as the N036 Byelka, has a detection range of up to 400 kilometers (250 miles), allowing it to detect targets at a considerable distance

    The F-35's radar, the AN/APG-81, has a detection range exceeding 80 nautical miles (150 kilometers),

    Notable specifications of the Su-57 include a top speed of Mach 2 (approximately 2,136 km/h), a combat range of about 1,900 kilometers, and the ability to carry a variety of weapons in its internal bays and on external hardpoints.

    The Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II has a maximum speed of Mach 1.6, which is (approximately 1,200 miles per hour)
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    That's the maximum range without taking the RCS into account :lol: This doesn't mean that SU-57 can detect F-35 at 400 km :rofl:
     
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    That's the maximum range without taking the RCS into account :lol: This doesn't mean that SU-57 can detect F-35 at 400 km :rofl:
    so as F-35 detection range exceeding 150 kilometres

    For 1 m² RCS ,

    N036 Byelka: SU-57

    • Detection range for a 1 m² target is estimated to be approximately 250-400 km. The radar has excellent long-range capabilities, particularly for larger aircraft, but it can also track smaller targets effectively, depending on environmental conditions and the target's altitude.
    • The Byelka radar suite is designed to handle a wide range of air and ground targets simultaneously, which helps extend its effective detection range for smaller RCS targets.

    AN/APG-81: F-35

    • Detection range for a 1 m² target is around 150-250 km in optimal conditions. The radar has solid detection capabilities but typically performs better in more focused situations like stealth aircraft, where it can utilize its advanced electronic warfare and signal processing features.
     
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    F - 35 එක්ක Su - 57 compare කරන්නෙ මොන මරි මෝඩයද හුත්තො. F-35 එක සම්පූර්ණයෙන්ම වෙනස් flight characteristics ටිකකටනෙ හදල තියෙන්නෙ. අ‍ා‍දි කාලෙ වගේ dog fight කරන්නවත්, maneuvers දාන්නවත් නෙවෙයි එ‍්ක තියෙන්නෙ. රුසියාවෙ සම්පූර්ණ Flight dogma එකම වෙනස්. උන්ගෙ design එක තියෙන්නෙ තනියෙන් පොර ජාතක ලියන type එකේ.

    අ‍ැමරිකාව තනිකරම integrated war fighting පැත්තට focus කරන්නෙ. F - 35 එකට Su - 57 එක්ක බාල් නැටුම් නටන්න උවමනාවක් නෑනෙ. F - 35 එකක් පැත්ත පලාතකවත් තියෙනවා කියල detect කරගන්නත් කලින් එ‍්කෙන් Su - 57 එකට හුකවල අ‍ැරල ඉවරයි. කිලෝමීටර් සීයක් විතර අ‍ෑතින් ඉඳල හමන්නල අරින්නෙ. අනික කොච්චර කිව්වත් F - 35 එකේ ගොඩක් parts NATO රටවලින් source කරලා jointly develop කරල තියෙන්නෙ export කරන්න okay විදිහට. අවුරුදු හතලිස් ගාණක් පරණ F - 16 නම් කොහොමත් compare කරන එක බූරු කමක්නෙ.

    Su - 57 එක මොන අ‍ාච්චිගෙ වැඩ දැම්මත් හොඳට හුකා ගන්නෙ F - 22 Raptor එකක් එක්ක හැමනෙන්ඩ අ‍ාව දවසට තමයි. එ‍්ක වෙන් නෑ හැබැයි F - 22 export කරන් නෑනෙ. අ‍ැමරිකාව එක්ක direct හැප්පෙන්න අ‍ාව දවසක තමයි එ‍් අඩව්ව බලා ගන්න වෙන්නෙ.

    හැබැයි ඉන්දියාව වගේ බලන් අතේ ගහන මෝඩ රටකට ඉතින් Su - 57 එක මාර චූන්. 😅😅.
    Putinage wahal baiyo tika paw bn...Ara hujja ukraine ta gahanna gihin putinata redde rewuna ekata unta dukai lu...😂😂 ohomawath sathutu wenna diyann..🤣🤣
     

    Edward Kenway

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    so as F-35 detection range exceeding 150 kilometres

    For 1 m² RCS ,

    N036 Byelka: SU-57

    • Detection range for a 1 m² target is estimated to be approximately 250-400 km. The radar has excellent long-range capabilities, particularly for larger aircraft, but it can also track smaller targets effectively, depending on environmental conditions and the target's altitude.
    • The Byelka radar suite is designed to handle a wide range of air and ground targets simultaneously, which helps extend its effective detection range for smaller RCS targets.

    AN/APG-81: F-35

    • Detection range for a 1 m² target is around 150-250 km in optimal conditions. The radar has solid detection capabilities but typically performs better in more focused situations like stealth aircraft, where it can utilize its advanced electronic warfare and signal processing features.
    What's your point? I said Su-57 can't detect F-35 at 400km given it'll probably have a very small RCS.
     

    IndrajithGamage

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    F - 35 එකක් පැත්ත පලාතකවත් තියෙනවා කියල detect කරගන්නත් කලින් එ‍්කෙන් Su - 57 එකට හුකවල අ‍ැරල ඉවරයි.

    :lol::lol:

    When comparing the radar range of a Su-57 to an F-35, the Su-57 generally has a longer detection range due to its advanced radar system, the N036 Byelka, which can detect targets at a greater distance, especially against larger radar cross-section aircraft like the F-35;

    The Su-57 fighter jet's radar, known as the N036 Byelka, has a detection range of up to 400 kilometers (250 miles), allowing it to detect targets at a considerable distance

    The F-35's radar, the AN/APG-81, has a detection range exceeding 80 nautical miles (150 kilometers),

    Notable specifications of the Su-57 include a top speed of Mach 2 (approximately 2,136 km/h), a combat range of about 1,900 kilometers, and the ability to carry a variety of weapons in its internal bays and on external hardpoints.

    The Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II has a maximum speed of Mach 1.6, which is (approximately 1,200 miles per hour)
    :lol:
    හුත්තො F 35 එකේ RCS එක ගොල්ෆ් බෝලයකටත් වඩා චූටියි. කිලෝ මීටර් 400 ක් අ‍ෑත අල්ලයි පකක්. රුසියන් පොන්නයො කියවන වැල් බයිලා විශ්වාස කරන්න කලින් මොළේ පොඩ්ඩක් පාවිච්චි කරපන්. යුක්රේන කාරයොත් උඩ දාගෙන ගහපු හැටි මතකනෙ.

    Su 57 එකේ මොන රේඩාර් පකකටවත් visual range එකෙන් එහාට F 35 එකක් හොයන්ඩ වෙන් නෑ. ජිල් බෝල ඩාන්ස් දදා ඉද්දි එකපාරට කොහෙ හරි පුපුරල යනවා තේරෙයි, Su 57 එක බිමට පත බෑවෙයි. වුණේ මොකක්ද කියල පස්සෙ තමයි හොයන්න වෙන්නෙ.

    හැබැයි එක දෙයක් නම් හරි ඉතින්‍, Air show එකකට ඕක පැහැදිලි කරන්න හදන එක මෝඩ කමක්.

    The Sukhoi Su-57 and the Lockheed Martin F-35 serve different roles and have different strengths. Here’s how they compare in real-world performance:

    Stealth & Sensors

    F-35: Prioritizes stealth and sensor fusion. It has the most advanced avionics, sensor suite, and networked warfare capabilities. Its stealth is superior due to radar-absorbent materials and a carefully designed shape.

    Su-57: While stealthy, it is not as stealth-focused as the F-35. Russia has struggled with radar-absorbent materials, and its shape is less optimized for stealth. However, it compensates with agility and electronic warfare systems.


    Air-to-Air Combat

    F-35: Not built for traditional dogfights but has high situational awareness due to its advanced sensors and data-sharing capabilities. Can engage threats before they see it.

    Su-57: Designed to be an air superiority fighter with supermaneuverability, thrust-vectoring, and high speed, making it a stronger performer in close-range dogfights.


    Weapons & Strike Capabilities

    F-35: More advanced precision-guided munitions, better integration with Western missile systems, and superior Beyond Visual Range (BVR) combat.

    Su-57: Can carry a mix of air-to-air and air-to-ground weapons but lacks the Western technology advantage in precision-guided weaponry and networking.


    Situational Awareness & Electronic Warfare

    F-35: Superior data fusion, network-centric warfare, and electronic warfare capabilities make it highly effective in complex battlefields.

    Su-57: Has advanced electronic warfare but is behind the F-35 in data-sharing and integration.


    Production & Real-World Deployment

    F-35: Mass-produced, battle-tested (used by the U.S. and allies), and has participated in real-world operations.

    Su-57: Very limited production (only a handful in service), and it hasn’t seen real combat on a meaningful scale.


    Conclusion

    The F-35 is better in networked warfare, stealth, and precision strike roles—ideal for modern warfare.

    The Su-57 is better in agility and dogfighting but lacks the F-35’s stealth, sensor fusion, and real-world combat experience.


    In a real war scenario, the F-35 is likely the superior overall platform, but in a direct dogfight, the Su-57 might have an edge. However, modern air combat rarely comes down to close-range fights.
     

    Bounty_Hunter

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    SU57 vs F35 compare karanna bane ban(size, engines etc). SU57 VS F22 tama puluwan
    F35 eka compare karanna ona SU75 ekka, namuth tama dev stage eke,
    e nisa single engine air-air and air-surface danata inna hodama eka F35.