Why Buddhism vey unpopular among other Religons

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You cant prove buddhism by science u can prove science by buddhism, i think u understand wut im sayin here. Buddhism has more than science, everything discovered here now has been discovered 2500 years ago. Buddhism accepts the surival of the fittest bt it doesnt discuss abt it much y? lord buddha didnt want to discuss sumthings abt nature he wanted to stop the chain of life, wanted to stop the need to live then get out of it. If you study mathematics, they have proven vertices for the nth dimension buddhism discusses abt creatures living with us but in a different dimension, havent u figured out that mathematics professors tak alot abt buddhism?? dats coz both hav things in common bt buddhism explains things that no human science will evr b able to prove physically, coz they're not physical. And it does discuss reincarnation - which is under documentation in science. Science cant prove buddhism, its more than a science its the truth if u dont believe me, prove it wrong...with evidence

Science is basically about cause and affect right? buddism misses this point in one hand at the same time uses it as one of the main arguments to explain its philosophy. it says every living creature will be be "incarnated" and will get a life according what it did in previouse life (thats the essence of buddism.correct me if im wrong) so thats cause and effect.

but what it misses is to expalin, what/who causes this process to be an unfair one (if this actually exists is a different problem). often this part is unclear but you dont have to be a rocket scientist to figure that if at all this choosing the good and giving them a good life and choosing the bad and giving them wat they deserve cannot happen without nothing. i can explain further if you need.

also the basic stuff like food chain and struggle for power are basis of modern science.science says world exists cos of this cycles and if its damaged then unbalance will distroy everything.

also this celebreties and popular people admireiring buddism (they r not buddist they just pick small peaces becouse movie stars they live a 90% life which completely agains any religion or even common morals. if you watch news you know) its cos they in one extrem and they just want somethin to fill there spiritual side like every human being.and buddsim has an advantage you dont have to declare or commit. i think thats the reason still you guys can tell your idea's

and for this over the science thing. yeah i agree science is not all knowing and all correct. if not it will becom more popular than religions.but this miracle performing part seeing deeper meenings hasnt helped rather than for indiduals. its not easy to bring up a community society based on this. best example is our country wil 2500 yrs of history. what has if developed in common man. its still a country with country with liqure bars, brothel houses, drug dealers, bribary, undeciplined youth, high divorce rates,no family value..etc etc can make a long list.

i think actually buddism is unpopular cos its a philosophy that can only implemented in very small crowd of people or really individually.it cannot be bought into a vast papulation as general set of rules to build a community. if you think its wrong think about this. budda decided to goto it after thinking of politics (he was a prince) family (he left it if im correct) etc etc and all other social structures. and last he came to conclution its not gona help and go indidual.

all this people who call them buddist are not practicing even 1% of wat he intended to teach (im not really sure intentded to teach...) they are just studying the philosopy and applying it in their own way.and being proud of it..

but i just wonder isnt buddism that budda practiced is something going way of pride?
 

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Buddhism is popular among a category of people and they believe it and follow the path shown by lord Buddha... Tht's enf... Y dnt ppl leave religion and race apart without making it an issue.... tht way the world will be a more peaceful place...
 

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    NO Offense.but how is buddism proved by science?

    i thought it contradicts. cos it doesnt recognize natural selection, food chain...etc etc

    can anyone explain?

    Purpose of Buddhism is not to explain you “natural selection”, “food chain” kind of things. And don’t expect scientific explanations for Buddhism as well. Scientific theories change day by day (there are lot of examples for this), but not the Buddhism, even after 2500 years. So trying to make Buddhism scientific is just a joke. Rather than a joke it is dangerous too.

    It is possible to provide a lengthy explanation for this, if you really need it.
     

    homoelectronics

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    Science is basically about cause and affect right? buddism misses this point in one hand at the same time uses it as one of the main arguments to explain its philosophy. it says every living creature will be be "incarnated" and will get a life according what it did in previouse life (thats the essence of buddism.correct me if im wrong) so thats cause and effect.

    but what it misses is to expalin, what/who causes this process to be an unfair one (if this actually exists is a different problem). often this part is unclear but you dont have to be a rocket scientist to figure that if at all this choosing the good and giving them a good life and choosing the bad and giving them wat they deserve cannot happen without nothing. i can explain further if you need.

    also the basic stuff like food chain and struggle for power are basis of modern science.science says world exists cos of this cycles and if its damaged then unbalance will distroy everything.

    also this celebreties and popular people admireiring buddism (they r not buddist they just pick small peaces becouse movie stars they live a 90% life which completely agains any religion or even common morals. if you watch news you know) its cos they in one extrem and they just want somethin to fill there spiritual side like every human being.and buddsim has an advantage you dont have to declare or commit. i think thats the reason still you guys can tell your idea's

    and for this over the science thing. yeah i agree science is not all knowing and all correct. if not it will becom more popular than religions.but this miracle performing part seeing deeper meenings hasnt helped rather than for indiduals. its not easy to bring up a community society based on this. best example is our country wil 2500 yrs of history. what has if developed in common man. its still a country with country with liqure bars, brothel houses, drug dealers, bribary, undeciplined youth, high divorce rates,no family value..etc etc can make a long list.

    i think actually buddism is unpopular cos its a philosophy that can only implemented in very small crowd of people or really individually.it cannot be bought into a vast papulation as general set of rules to build a community. if you think its wrong think about this. budda decided to goto it after thinking of politics (he was a prince) family (he left it if im correct) etc etc and all other social structures. and last he came to conclution its not gona help and go indidual.

    all this people who call them buddist are not practicing even 1% of wat he intended to teach (im not really sure intentded to teach...) they are just studying the philosopy and applying it in their own way.and being proud of it..

    but i just wonder isnt buddism that budda practiced is something going way of pride?

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    First thing I need to mention is the purpose of the Buddhism is to realize the “Nibbana/Nirvana”.

    ”Science is basically about cause and affect right? buddism misses this point in one hand at the same time uses it as one of the main arguments to explain its philosophy. It says every living creature will be "incarnated" and will get a life according what it did in previouse life (thats the essence of buddism.correct me if im wrong) so thats cause and effect.”

    What you are doing above is, first assume that “cause and effect” in science is true and then trying to see the exact same in Buddhism. First thing is it does not say “every living creature will be ‘incarnated’”. For example according western science all the plants are living things, but in Buddhism “Punarbhawa” – rather than incarnation, is not applicable to plants/trees etc. On the other than a person who realized “Arhath Maarga” (including Budu, Pase Budu, Maha-rahath) does not have a Punarbhawa even they are living in current birth.

    The second part, your current life situation/condition or what ever, is not completely what you’ve done in previous life (basically Karma). Karma is just 1 thing out of 5 that decides your present life. Refer the “Pancha Niyamana Dharma” (http://www.ubakhin.com/ledi/MANUAL04.html)


    To be continued…
     

    madurax86

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    Science is basically about cause and affect right? buddism misses this point in one hand at the same time uses it as one of the main arguments to explain its philosophy. it says every living creature will be be "incarnated" and will get a life according what it did in previouse life (thats the essence of buddism.correct me if im wrong) so thats cause and effect.

    but what it misses is to expalin, what/who causes this process to be an unfair one (if this actually exists is a different problem). often this part is unclear but you dont have to be a rocket scientist to figure that if at all this choosing the good and giving them a good life and choosing the bad and giving them wat they deserve cannot happen without nothing. i can explain further if you need.

    also the basic stuff like food chain and struggle for power are basis of modern science.science says world exists cos of this cycles and if its damaged then unbalance will distroy everything.

    also this celebreties and popular people admireiring buddism (they r not buddist they just pick small peaces becouse movie stars they live a 90% life which completely agains any religion or even common morals. if you watch news you know) its cos they in one extrem and they just want somethin to fill there spiritual side like every human being.and buddsim has an advantage you dont have to declare or commit. i think thats the reason still you guys can tell your idea's

    and for this over the science thing. yeah i agree science is not all knowing and all correct. if not it will becom more popular than religions.but this miracle performing part seeing deeper meenings hasnt helped rather than for indiduals. its not easy to bring up a community society based on this. best example is our country wil 2500 yrs of history. what has if developed in common man. its still a country with country with liqure bars, brothel houses, drug dealers, bribary, undeciplined youth, high divorce rates,no family value..etc etc can make a long list.

    i think actually buddism is unpopular cos its a philosophy that can only implemented in very small crowd of people or really individually.it cannot be bought into a vast papulation as general set of rules to build a community. if you think its wrong think about this. budda decided to goto it after thinking of politics (he was a prince) family (he left it if im correct) etc etc and all other social structures. and last he came to conclution its not gona help and go indidual.

    all this people who call them buddist are not practicing even 1% of wat he intended to teach (im not really sure intentded to teach...) they are just studying the philosopy and applying it in their own way.and being proud of it..

    but i just wonder isnt buddism that budda practiced is something going way of pride?

    Dude i read this article on "whts wrong in buddhism" go google for it its the first result. Nyway u r talkin abt a thing that u have never read o experienced. U dont knw wht da hell went on this country for 50 yrs since u r a big science fan u knw dat its harder to climb than to fall. Thats wht happend to this country it was a gr8 place b4 these western ppl cam n spread their ~religion by force, i dont wanna talk abt this more coz im nt against christianity its da western di**heads who thought dat by editing a religion they can rule the world, they're doin it now for instance did jesus ask his followers to make materialistic donations for chirstmas? no he ddnt and wat does every christian rich o poor do on christmas now? go shoppin. Buddhist means "clever person"; if u ddnt knw, not every1 who bcam a buddhist bcoz o his/her family is clever dude,dats simple y ask dumb things lyk dat? buddhism never sheded blood to make it popular ..its nt so what? its stil da truth. YES IM PROUD COZ I HAV A REASON TO BE PROUD so what does it matter to the others?

    ** The western definition of development is not definition for development in buddhism so u cant see a developed nation thru da western perspective so wht man? In buddhism ppl always respected humanity devorce rates among buddhists mostly out of colombo is still low .....lanka isnt becomin america o norway yet in norway 40% o children r wit a single parent lanka didnt go ther bt it'll still raise coz o da not so clever a**holes who think dat goin in 416Kmph is a gr8 acheivement than 1kmph .....so wht man da speed o light is 3*10^8 m/s = 3*10^8*3600/1000 = 1.08*10^9 kmph


    **--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------*
    AB--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------C
    A = 1 kmph
    B = 416 kmph
    C = 1.08*10^9 kmph

    science brought us A to B lets go frm B to C thru science too!! yay!!
    dats da development stage that the world has com its a gr8 big deal :P; buddhism never wastes time on such non nirvana path leading physical things. But sum1 who achieves 'irdi' can make his/her mind go in the speed o light.
     

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    Dont bring out religous things out here .Elakiri is a place for all da religions to unite together and bring unity among our selves.

    Every body has differnt veiws and ideas abt each and evry religion.

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    just

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    homoelectronics -

    so you saying "cause and effect is not true" according to buddism? or its half true and half not? if thats what you trying to say "thats what i said as well, read it"

    also buddy dont like reading external links all can google and put the link for others to go an read.that wont construct a good dialog. just put whatever you have in simple terms so that all can understand.

    also since you have to continue i guess its good for me to wait n c wat u have to tell fully..

    madurax86's -

    i know science cant explain everything infact if u read my post ive told that.but if you say we should neglect science and make the future path then that path will go backwards as i belive.

    but what i actually was trying to say was if its a not a physical path that buddism leads to whats that it offers to common man. after all one should live and finish this worldly life first right. and during that time he has to use social struture (family,community,country..etc),respect natural laws (survival etc)...so you will need a a set of rules to bring up things as a community.but budda with all respect havent had faith in these stuff he's last conclution was to go away.

    thats where buddism faces the problem of mass guiding. its only practical in individual level not collective level.

    if you just take for example sri lankan politics involvements of buddist monks recently one thing is definitely for sure. those monks not gonna attain nibbana if they continue like this.simple cos what they trying to do is what siddartha gawthama left saying useless.so thats a point where there social life and personel phylosophy contradicts which i was talking about before.

    i really dont think talking religion is a problem if people who talk know how to handle things.after all its better to put things on the table rather than keepin other will take if want or leave if not.
     

    psyche

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    i really dont think talking religion is a problem if people who talk know how to handle things.after all its better to put things on the table rather than keepin other will take if want or leave if not.


    Hey dude what are you trying to prove here....hmm?? Are you trying to be a smart-ass in a public place like this by trying to unveil any possible flaws which seem to exist according to the way you think.....is that what you are trying to do desperately??

    If you have cetain doubts about this religon please take the time to clear them up with someone or group of people who know well about the religon IN A PRIVATE PLACE.....NOT HERE!!!!!!!

    If you are unable to even understand this then everybody here will get to what's your mentality is like.
     
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    i dont know abt other religions and i dont wanna know either.... but, i'm soo happy & proud to be a Buddhist....

    there's no matter abt the popularity..... If u believe and respect to ur religion.. that's it

    as to our Lord Budda, ur religion is not a problem if u live as a human..... not like an Evil.....

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    homoelectronics -

    so you saying "cause and effect is not true" according to buddism? or its half true and half not? if thats what you trying to say "thats what i said as well, read it"

    also buddy dont like reading external links all can google and put the link for others to go an read.that wont construct a good dialog. just put whatever you have in simple terms so that all can understand.

    also since you have to continue i guess its good for me to wait n c wat u have to tell fully..

    madurax86's -

    i know science cant explain everything infact if u read my post ive told that.but if you say we should neglect science and make the future path then that path will go backwards as i belive.

    but what i actually was trying to say was if its a not a physical path that buddism leads to whats that it offers to common man. after all one should live and finish this worldly life first right. and during that time he has to use social struture (family,community,country..etc),respect natural laws (survival etc)...so you will need a a set of rules to bring up things as a community.but budda with all respect havent had faith in these stuff he's last conclution was to go away.

    thats where buddism faces the problem of mass guiding. its only practical in individual level not collective level.

    if you just take for example sri lankan politics involvements of buddist monks recently one thing is definitely for sure. those monks not gonna attain nibbana if they continue like this.simple cos what they trying to do is what siddartha gawthama left saying useless.so thats a point where there social life and personel phylosophy contradicts which i was talking about before.

    i really dont think talking religion is a problem if people who talk know how to handle things.after all its better to put things on the table rather than keepin other will take if want or leave if not.

    Since you seems to have measured up all the facts!! I would like to ask you few questions!

    1. What exactly Buddhism does not cover according to your opinion?

    2. Why do you think it is?

    3. What are the other religions, that cover what Buddhism have not covered?

    4. And how they have comprehensively covered the areas Buddhism may have missed?