Wich way we must go with Sri Lanka?

[coolgayathra]

i think china is better than america

 

[madurax86]

I am sorry, but really I cant make out much from your typing, it does not make a clear point to me.

So, please pardon me, and say me clearly your stance about Russia and its economy, and what you think about US with it?

1. russians are not aimed at economic development alone
2. russians are angry with US and might at anytime even when america is down
3. US is loosing their pace in economy and they are in recession
4. russia does not face recession because they are more conservative, the kind of economy that remained in the past in SL. The country makes what the country needs. Russia being a large country they can afford to make everything for food to vehicles and machinery

 

[Mal Aiyya]

the west has in the past from 1948 until the 80's helpt create the LTTE by helping the conflict between sinhalese and tamil that has begun because of the britisch when they ocupied Sri Lanka.
and when Sri Lanka's politics change in the favor of rightwing west party's
the west told here in the west to everyone that the LTTE are terrorist.
but before that when Sri Lanka was a Leftwing country, the west told here that the LTTE are freedom fighters, and that sinhalese are bad

So are you telling me that this on going war was incepted in the early 1950's ??

I partly agree to your opinion that the West has a hand in arousing both parties of the war for their own benefit, but this involvement wasnt for sometime after the war had officially begun.

The actual LTTE came up the Black July that happened in SL. That was genocide of the Tamils, it was brought up by the sinhalese (Now when I say sinhalese, it does not include the whole country, it was the actions of corrupted politicians, who aroused the sinhalese people to that state, but in depth, many tamils were saved by the intelligent groups of Sinhalese and other ethnicities, specially from areas like Kandy, where there is generally the intellectual crowd).

The baase for LTTE to start terrorising was that inhuman act that the country did to their kind, so basically the reason for LTTE's actions at the start was pretty reasonable.

Now I am sure some one is going to label me as a terrorist n EK, like what happened to many other members, who got banned, due to narrow minded, uneducated and stupid group of members who called them as terrorists. My request is to think twice about what a person really means when he/she says something, the real intention behind the post. (BTW, this has nothing to do with this thread or its posts)

 

[amila_90210]

LTTE eka karanne aagam yuddayak

 

[janaka85]

So are you telling me that this on going war was incepted in the early 1950's ??

I partly agree to your opinion that the West has a hand in arousing both parties of the war for their own benefit, but this involvement wasnt for sometime after the war had officially begun.

The actual LTTE came up the Black July that happened in SL. That was genocide of the Tamils, it was brought up by the sinhalese (Now when I say sinhalese, it does not include the whole country, it was the actions of corrupted politicians, who aroused the sinhalese people to that state, but in depth, many tamils were saved by the intelligent groups of Sinhalese and other ethnicities, specially from areas like Kandy, where there is generally the intellectual crowd).

The baase for LTTE to start terrorising was that inhuman act that the country did to their kind, so basically the reason for LTTE's actions at the start was pretty reasonable.

Now I am sure some one is going to label me as a terrorist n EK, like what happened to many other members, who got banned, due to narrow minded, uneducated and stupid group of members who called them as terrorists. My request is to think twice about what a person really means when he/she says something, the real intention behind the post. (BTW, this has nothing to do with this thread or its posts)

True, but the west has helpt the nationalist sinhalese to came on power, and helpt escalate the conflict for their own intrest, that leads finaly to black jully and civil war.
they know that with this conflict rage the country, sri lanka would never be a problem for the west.
the west did this also against vietnam, and korea.

 

[Mal Aiyya]

1. russians are not aimed at economic development alone
2. russians are angry with US and might at anytime even when america is down
3. US is loosing their pace in economy and they are in recession
4. russia does not face recession because they are more conservative, the kind of economy that remained in the past in SL. The country makes what the country needs. Russia being a large country they can afford to make everything for food to vehicles and machinery

Yes you are right. I agree to what you say. Russia's economic system is highly commendable.

But what you are saying now is contradicting to what you said earlier, you say that Russia is conservative, which was my very point. But you said Russia is now not the leftwing, and that it has left being so.

So going back to where we started, about the best option for SL, I said SL could adopt this. But is your point is that SL cannot move into it now and that SL does not have the capital requirement for it, yes, I agree to that too. What I said was that if SL WAS such an economy, the progress that we would have made wil be enormous.

And whats with America? Its times have come to an end. If you critically analyse the reasons for this global recession, it would be clear to you that this is all a political crisis. Capitalism has reached its peak, and now Socialism is dawning. America is a country that had foul play...they did things wrong

 

[Mal Aiyya]

True, but the west has helpt the nationalist sinhalese to came on power, and helpt escalate the conflict for their own intrest, that leads finaly to black jully and civil war.
they know that with this conflict rage the country, sri lanka would never be a problem for the west.
the west did this also against vietnam, and korea.

Yes, you are right, but be careful when you say West, its not all the West, its only some "bad-ass" economies that you and me know who caused mayham in the world around to safeguard their wicket, and now are facing heavy problems which are extremely difficult to recover. They say that these countries that we are talking about will recover within the next two months, but I totally disagree, te plight of those countries is pretty serious. The amount of time that they will take to fully restore will be smaller to say if you talked in terms of Decades.

And be careful when you say your points, make sure you present them clearly, in the sense, you said the West was the creator of the LTTE, well it is indirectly, but not fully, and you cannot say that if you fully revise all of your statements.

 

[madurax86]

So are you telling me that this on going war was incepted in the early 1950's ??

I partly agree to your opinion that the West has a hand in arousing both parties of the war for their own benefit, but this involvement wasnt for sometime after the war had officially begun.

The actual LTTE came up the Black July that happened in SL. That was genocide of the Tamils, it was brought up by the sinhalese (Now when I say sinhalese, it does not include the whole country, it was the actions of corrupted politicians, who aroused the sinhalese people to that state, but in depth, many tamils were saved by the intelligent groups of Sinhalese and other ethnicities, specially from areas like Kandy, where there is generally the intellectual crowd).

The baase for LTTE to start terrorising was that inhuman act that the country did to their kind, so basically the reason for LTTE's actions at the start was pretty reasonable.

Now I am sure some one is going to label me as a terrorist n EK, like what happened to many other members, who got banned, due to narrow minded, uneducated and stupid group of members who called them as terrorists. My request is to think twice about what a person really means when he/she says something, the real intention behind the post. (BTW, this has nothing to do with this thread or its posts)

When brits left they gave all the powers to the minorities making sinhalese people weak and without good occupations in government offices...you think that those lakes and ponds in the north were called in those names in the past too(i mean well before the brits came here) no all of those* had sinhala names the tamil officials who were on the high posts of the government changed those names and the names of sinhala sities to prove that it was the homeland of tamils they were planing to get hold of the whole country, the plans for a separate ealam was first introduced far before 1980s it was around 1950s that the tamils wanted a seprate state and worked to get it.
Black july was the reply of the sinhalese who saw all this coming, im not justifying it but thats what they had to do to regain the country as they say. JVP was another reason that the country suffered and they too killed tamils and sinhala people...i dont know why the hell they are allowed to have a party, they are the sinhala version of LTTE ...LTTE is somwhat better to tamils more than JVP being good for sinhala people. LTTE started killing tamils when they started to loose ground rapidly JVP killed sinhala and tamil people for no reason thats why i say their communism is just good as sh!t

* my father works at the mahaweli authority and he told me about the shit that were done by the tamils when they were heads of the irrigation department, its proved.

 

[janaka85]

Yes, you are right, but be careful when you say West, its not all the West, its only some "bad-ass" economies that you and me know who caused mayham in the world around to safeguard their wicket, and now are facing heavy problems which are extremely difficult to recover. They say that these countries that we are talking about will recover within the next two months, but I totally disagree, te plight of those countries is pretty serious. The amount of time that they will take to fully restore will be smaller to say if you talked in terms of Decades.

And be careful when you say your points, make sure you present them clearly, in the sense, you said the West was the creator of the LTTE, well it is indirectly, but not fully, and you cannot say that if you fully revise all of your statements.

well, maybe, but I think Sri Lanka needs to go their own way with litle bit help of China's military power.
Sri Lanka needs a new voice a Patriot that bring a National movement that bring all sinhalese once again as one.
One voice can make a difrence.

 

[madurax86]

well, maybe, but I think Sri Lanka needs to go their own way with litle bit help of China's military power.
Sri Lanka needs a new voice a Patriot that bring a National movement that bring all sinhalese once again as one.
One voice can make a difrence.

thats the thing hardest to do i dont know how pres. mahinda got the count of volunteer soldiers up but its a miracle at that time when all hope was gone about winning the war

 

[Mal Aiyya]

When brits left they gave all the powers to the minorities making sinhalese people weak and without good occupations in government offices...you think that those lakes and ponds in the north were called in those names in the past too(i mean well before the brits came here) no all of those* had sinhala names the tamil officials who were on the high posts of the government changed those names and the names of sinhala sities to prove that it was the homeland of tamils they were planing to get hold of the whole country, the plans for a separate ealam was first introduced far before 1980s it was around 1950s that the tamils wanted a seprate state and worked to get it.
Black july was the reply of the sinhalese who saw all this coming, im not justifying it but thats what they had to do to regain the country as they say. JVP was another reason that the country suffered and they too killed tamils and sinhala people...i dont know why the hell they are allowed to have a party, they are the sinhala version of LTTE ...LTTE is somwhat better to tamils more than JVP being good for sinhala people. LTTE started killing tamils when they started to loose ground rapidly JVP killed sinhala and tamil people for no reason thats why i say their communism is just good as sh!t

* my father works at the mahaweli authority and he told me about the shit that were done by the tamils when they were heads of the irrigation department, its proved.

I agree to your stance over the JVP.

But talking about these namings, tell me how much of your liberty was los because of that?

Those were named for lakes in the NORTH, where the Tamils were habitted. So, naturally Tamils will do things like that in a Tamil area, and the habitants (Tamils) will definitely prefer that. If the sinhalese, as you say, were not that narrow minded, they would have seen the reality. What harm to them was done becuase of that>? NOTHING.

This narrow minded thinking has caused all this trouble, it is upto the sinhalese community to think broadly, and its highly applicabe to this very forum. Many good members, who tried to bring good to the site, who tried to open the eyes of the people, were labelled as "TERRORISTS" and simply banned by creating havoc.

And if the Sinhalese saw this coming , as you say, they went into the Black July. So isnt that far more brutal than what LTTE is doing? So technically, these sinhalese are the all-time bad doers. They have done most brutal acts, and yet point their finger at LTTE despite the rage that they went to...well actually LTTE is beyond the limit now. But whats the guarantee that these Sinhalese wont end up in another Black July after the LTTE is abolished? Simply becuase of their narrow minded thinking and that they see it coming again?

 

[paalugama]

 

[janaka85]

I agree to your stance over the JVP.

But talking about these namings, tell me how much of your liberty was los because of that?

Those were named for lakes in the NORTH, where the Tamils were habitted. So, naturally Tamils will do things like that in a Tamil area, and the habitants (Tamils) will definitely prefer that. If the sinhalese, as you say, were not that narrow minded, they would have seen the reality. What harm to them was done becuase of that>? NOTHING.

This narrow minded thinking has caused all this trouble, it is upto the sinhalese community to think broadly, and its highly applicabe to this very forum. Many good members, who tried to bring good to the site, who tried to open the eyes of the people, were labelled as "TERRORISTS" and simply banned by creating havoc.

And if the Sinhalese saw this coming , as you say, they went into the Black July. So isnt that far more brutal than what LTTE is doing? So technically, these sinhalese are the all-time bad doers. They have done most brutal acts, and yet point their finger at LTTE despite the rage that they went to...well actually LTTE is beyond the limit now. But whats the guarantee that these Sinhalese wont end up in another Black July after the LTTE is abolished? Simply becuase of their narrow minded thinking and that they see it coming again?

That is because the sinhalese were ocupied by the british, and the tamil had in that time the jobs for work and maintain the occupation by kill sinhala rebbels.

this has makes a source of sinhala nationalism greatly,
thats were the hate towards tamils came from.
that kind of nationalism is imposseble to stop.
in history the sinhalese revolted many times against the occupied force.
the britisch could not break our spirrit, so the have found a way to control it by using tamils.

 

[madurax86]

I agree to your stance over the JVP.

But talking about these namings, tell me how much of your liberty was los because of that?

Those were named for lakes in the NORTH, where the Tamils were habitted. So, naturally Tamils will do things like that in a Tamil area, and the habitants (Tamils) will definitely prefer that. If the sinhalese, as you say, were not that narrow minded, they would have seen the reality. What harm to them was done becuase of that>? NOTHING.

This narrow minded thinking has caused all this trouble, it is upto the sinhalese community to think broadly, and its highly applicabe to this very forum. Many good members, who tried to bring good to the site, who tried to open the eyes of the people, were labelled as "TERRORISTS" and simply banned by creating havoc.

And if the Sinhalese saw this coming , as you say, they went into the Black July. So isnt that far more brutal than what LTTE is doing? So technically, these sinhalese are the all-time bad doers. They have done most brutal acts, and yet point their finger at LTTE despite the rage that they went to...well actually LTTE is beyond the limit now. But whats the guarantee that these Sinhalese wont end up in another Black July after the LTTE is abolished? Simply becuase of their narrow minded thinking and that they see it coming again?

read it again, i said thats what they thought not me.
But all I know is that its true ....yea sure they can call those lakes/towns by any name they want locally who gave them the authority to edit the actual maps and data? they were just on the way to prove that its tamil home land thats all

sinhalese were the most bruised by the foreign invasions and just when SL was going to hit the development threshold(60s) these tamils start calling a part of SL as their homeland and ask for a separate country they had it on the way. SL is multi cultural sinhala people dont goto wars with other minorities as much as tamils thats because tamils(not all) have(or rather had, because of the war victories) the need for a separate country here. Their main aim was to get the whole country with the support of india.
These arent new these things happend in the past we call tamil people
"dhemala" or "demellu" there is no POLITE noun in sinhala to call to a tamil man than "dhemala miniha" or "dhamilaya" ...but muslims, catholics and burger people have polite nouns why? and even the word "dhemala" means enemy in sinhala i dont know you knew that, the reason for this was that tamils are invaders from persia(not from india). There were some respectable invaders who were respected as an enemy by the ancient sinhala kings one is Elaara who was most respected by king dutugamunu.
Thats the whole thing if people want to live in peace both sides MUST take this in to their minds and tamils have to understand just because this is the country they live in it is not where they originated thats all if all understand that peace will be there if not the fighting will continue

one is for sure as i've read the history of the sinhalese there are very few defeats(not conspiracies, like US did to Russia) in war history of sinhalese and very few attacks from the sinhalese, this is based on the sinhala scripts but I think its true when it comes to the present situation of war, LTTE was the strongest terror org. dont under estimate that

 

[lkdood]

even China, Russia are now moving towards full free markets

 

[janaka85]

read it again, i said thats they thought not me.
But all I know is that its true ....yea sure they can call those lakes/towns by any name they want locally who gave them the authority to edit the actual maps and data? they were just on the way to prove that its tamil home land thats all

sinhalese were the most bruised by the foreign invasions and just when SL was going to hit the development these tamils start calling a part of SL as their homeland and ask for a separate country they had it on the way. SL is multi cultural sinhala people dont goto wars with other minorities as much as tamils thats because tamils(not all) have(or rather had, because of the war victories) the need for a separate country here. Their main aim was to get the whole country with the support of india.
These arent new these things happend in the past we call tamil people
"dhemala" or "demellu" there is no POLITE noun in sinhala to call to a tamil man than "dhemala miniha" or "dhamilaya" ...but muslims, catholics and burger people have polite nouns why? and even the word "dhemala" means enemy in sinhala i dont know you knew that, the reason for this was that tamils are invaders from persia(not from india) there were respectable invaders who were respected as an enemy by the sinhala kings one is Elaara.
Thats the whole thing if people want to live in peace both sides MUST take this in to their minds and tamils have to understand just because this is the country they live in it is not where they originated thats all if all understand that peace will be there if not the fighting will continue

I do not need names to prove that it is all sinhala
they can change it to tamil names but someone with real understanding can see the difrence because of the way of building.
sinhalese argitecture and infrastructure is difrent from those of tamil.
it is so to be a fact that Anuradapura is build by sinhalese because of the way how it has been build.

 

[lkdood]

have a look at communist countries

what do you see ?

no human rights, no freedom of speech etc.

 

[cspmaxx]

api kiwwata wadak nahane .ape lokko tika egollange way eke rata aran yanawane

 

[madurax86]

I do not need names to prove that it is all sinhala
they can change it to tamil names but someone with real understanding can see the difrence because of the way of building.
sinhalese argitecture and infrastructure is difrent from those of tamil.
it is so to be a fact that Anuradapura is build by sinhalese because of the way how it has been build.

yup but i just mentioned it because MOST of the people here dont knw the history

 

[lkdood]

Wich way we must go with Sri Lanka?

A: Sri Lanka must join the Leftwing-communist, towards the international SCO of China

B: Sri Lanka must join the Rightwing-Liberal, towards the international NATO of Amerika

there is only one way

even China & Russia are starting to move that way

capitalism