The Real Story of How Israel Was Created

Hettiarachi

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Do you really think My Father will ever do that? I think you people would love to see that happen but I am not rejoy in that day if that happen to you

You are the one who living in a big lie ,.... I know my God very well he came to show his true love but do you know Allah? your GOD, he spoke to you indirectly (Angel to Mohomed, Mohomed to You) and he does not want you to become his children all he wants is your worship but in our case all god needs is our love in return

Madhi will come in the name of fake peace he will kill all non-b'liver not Jesus (may be fake Jesus will do that)


Jesus Christ ....!!!! my Lord is not a killer like Mohomed , my God does not need 2 revealations do not insult my Jesus . He is the token of LOVE

You will have to answer Jesus (our God) about it in that great day brother
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Hope No use of explaining you, as i saw in this forum many a times even after explaining you, u will come up with your own argument to prove jesus is son of God..even though u have no answers to some basic questions such as 1) when Jesus asked u to worship him 2) Jesus has ever been called as christian? 3) Trinity word not even exist in your own bible.....this are the basics that are not being answered convincingly by Christians rather than quoting something based on their own way.

anyway, you will realise when the day comes. May God show u right path..
 

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Hope No use of explaining you, as i saw in this forum many a times even after explaining you, u will come up with your own argument to prove jesus is son of God.


I am not extreme kind of a fellow just like you guys I have found a truth now i am ready to defend it Jesus is son of God, God incarnated not like your god who just sitting their .... our God does not need 2 revealation :yes:

.even though u have no answers to some basic questions such as

1) when Jesus asked u to worship him

Brother You can not force or kill someone for the sake of worship (just like muslims) they kill in the name of allah but all Jesus wnats is our love (i don't think you can understand it) but one day you will OK . but people saw his divinty and they worshipped him but Jesus never reject them, they accept their true worship coming from the bottom of their hearts, but what allah expect from you ? why you wil get 70 vergins in heaven (Jesus reject this concept) ? :lol:
you can see all people knows what islam is all about I can tell you one thing what mohomed saw is not really an angel :shocked:




2) Jesus has ever been called as christian?
my friend after Buddha came he brought some Doctrines they call it Buddhism likewise after Jesus what he tought us we call Christianity actually Jesus never brought new religion he brought salvation to the whole world



3) Trinity word not even exist in your own bible..... brother Father is in the bible, son is in the bible & the holy spirit in the bible all together we call it Trinity (The Holy Trinity)



this are the basics that are not being answered convincingly by Christians rather than quoting something based on their own way.



anyway, you will realise when the day comes. May God show u right path..

No point of answer it brother you will never listen to the truth so we will wait ok
 

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As Jesus always start with "I am telling you the truth"

I do not lie brother , I speak the truth , that truth came from Jesus
Jesus is the truth

God bless you

Good Bye!
 

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    Check thes things

    According to your bible God promised Land of Palastine to People of Abraham . Who are Ismail's and Isac's children. Not the jews of russia. Who is not the decedents of Isac. Please check these verses before your Talk Dummy

    Genesis 15 in which God establishes His covenant with Abraham concerning the Promised Land. "On that day the Lord made a covenant with Abram and said – 'To your descendants I give this land, from the river of Egypt [southern boundary at Wadi el Arish in Sinai]
    as far as the great river, the river Euphrates [northern boundary in Syria]:​
    the land of the –

     

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    anyway,my conclusion is we can definitely have peace in the Middle East. All we need is an open mind and heart from both the Palestinians and the Jews to make this happen. The Jews need to forget about migrating in millions to the land of Palestine and only allow the Middle Eastern Jews live there, and the Palestinians (Muslims and Christians) need to accept the existence of the Jews in Palestine

    I agree to most part. Palstineians and muslims around the world should accept the existence of Israel in middle east. And as for the israelies they do not have any problem with anyone. And what they do with their own country should not be anyone else's business as long as it does not harm anyone.

    My conclusion is Israelies are quite open minded people. If Muslims in palastine and around the world leave them alone, you will find peace in this area.
     

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    I agree to most part. Palstineians and muslims around the world should accept the existence of Israel in middle east. And as for the israelies they do not have any problem with anyone. And what they do with their own country should not be anyone else's business as long as it does not harm anyone.

    My conclusion is Israelies are quite open minded people. If Muslims in palastine and around the world leave them alone, you will find peace in this area.

    your conclusion is more disturbing me.you said Israelites are opened minded but not Muslims..can u give proof for Israelites are opened minded people..I don't doubt u that u have much hatred towards muslims..World know that Israleites are mostly cunning,mischief and evil minded people which is not publicly quoted by the medias as they control most of the media as well even has support of USA. they kill thousands of palestians people including infants and women and they call them self for their own protection they killed, and unfortunately people like u still say they are opened minded people that is because of publicity, in turn Palestinians kill hundred of people, unfortunately they are called as big major terrorists in the world.anyway to me, whoever kills he has to be condemned but there shouldn't be any partiality. now what we see is discrimination in this world.
    anyway in islam this was predicted,Only God can make real justice to the people who are suffering.
     

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    OK lets start with Muhammed's killing of innocent Jewish tribe named Banu Qurayza.:P

    Hey looser, Don't open up your fake history which was maligned by Jews themself to label prophet Mohammed is a culprit..anyway no wonder when a good person & good deeds appear there are many critics behind it, you also one of them.
     

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    Hey looser, Don't open up your fake history which was maligned by Jews themself to label prophet Mohammed is a culprit..anyway no wonder when a good person & good deeds appear there are many critics behind it, you also one of them.

    jUST TELL ME ONE THING mR. DO YOU THINK THANK YOUR GREAT PROPHET DID NOT KILL ANYONE?

    why he first got confused with angel ? why God needs two revalations?

    B'live me God bless Isreal , no one can beat them

    wil see ok
     

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    jUST TELL ME ONE THING mR. DO YOU THINK THANK YOUR GREAT PROPHET DID NOT KILL ANYONE?

    why he first got confused with angel ? why God needs two revalations?

    God needed more than one revelation because you can't do degree immediately after u were born, u need some maturity by studying Grade1 to O/l and A/l after that, u will do degree. even now what is true you cant understand and keep on following a fabricated bible, so how can God expect you human beings to get mature immediately with out revealing more than one revelation and time to time prophet according the peoples.

    B'live me God bless Isreal , no one can beat them

    wil see ok

    Y2K, first of all, you should stop seeing the anti Islamic website which fabricate stories to blame prophet Mohammed. after that you will find whether he killed or not. people here repeatedly saying they fought against who oppressed them and who came to kill them. you guys don't want to accept it, and teaching us Islam and its prophet.

    #Saheeh Bukhari

    Volume 004, Book 052, Hadith Number 258.

    Narrated By Ibn 'Umar : During some of the Ghazawat of Allah's Apostle a woman was found killed, so Allah's Apostle forbade the killing of women and children.

    #Sunan Abu Dawood

    Book 008, Hadith Number 2663.
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    Chapter : Not known.

    Narated By Rabah ibn Rabi' : When we were with the Apostle of Allah (pbuh) on an expedition, he saw some people collected together over something and sent a man and said: See, what are these people collected around? He then came and said: They are round a woman who has been killed. He said: This is not one with whom fighting should have taken place. Khalid ibn al-Walid was in charge of the van; so he sent a man and said: Tell Khalid not to kill a woman or a hired servant.

    #Saheeh Muslim

    Book 019, Hadith Number 4319.

    Chapter : Prohibition of killing women and children in war.

    It is narrated on the authority of 'Abdullah that a woman was found killed in one of the battles fought by the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him). He disapproved of the killing of women and children.

    if I agree with you that Prophet Muhammed Killed his enemies, then you have to accept with Jesus killed enemies too, here is proof from your own bible

    "So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways. I will strike her children dead. Then all the churches will know that I am he who searches hearts and minds, and I will repay each of you according to your deeds. (From the NIV Bible, Revelation 2:22-23)"




    It is amazing you bless Israel, who say you are an animal.

    The Jewish secret laws are based on the fundamental principle which states: Only the Jew is human. In contrast all non-Jews are animals, they are beasts in human form. Anything is permitted against them. The Jew may lie to, cheat and steal from them. He may rape and murder them. There are hundreds of passages in the Talmud which the non-jews are described as animals. Some of them are as follows:
    “The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts.” (Talmud: Baba Mezia 114b)
    “The Akum (Negro) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture teaches to honor the dog more than the Akum.” (Ereget Raschi Erod. 22
    30)
    “Even though God created the non-Jew they are still animals in human form. It is not becoming for a Jew to be served by an
    animal. Therefore he will be served by animals in human form.” (Midrasch Talpioth, p. 255, Warsaw 1855)
    “A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal.” (Coschen Hamischpat 405)
    “The souls of non-Jews come from impure spirits and are called pigs.” (Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b)
    “Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they compare with the Jew like a monkey to a human.” (Schene
    Luchoth Haberith, p. 250b)
     

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    your conclusion is more disturbing me.you said Israelites are opened minded but not Muslims..can u give proof for Israelites are opened minded people..I don't doubt u that u have much hatred towards muslims..World know that Israleites are mostly cunning,mischief and evil minded people which is not publicly quoted by the medias as they control most of the media as well even has support of USA. they kill thousands of palestians people including infants and women and they call them self for their own protection they killed, and unfortunately people like u still say they are opened minded people that is because of publicity, in turn Palestinians kill hundred of people, unfortunately they are called as big major terrorists in the world.anyway to me, whoever kills he has to be condemned but there shouldn't be any partiality. now what we see is discrimination in this world.
    anyway in islam this was predicted,Only God can make real justice to the people who are suffering.

    Yes I can show proof. I don't get my information from media, but I'm almost certain you have never bothered to check at least one unbiased, authentic sources, about the conflict in palastine.

    The terrorists in palastine who carry out terrorist activities are called terrorrists. Do you have any other name to call such people?

    You clearly don't know what you are talking about. If you can, show me one single attack carried out by Israelies, as not a response toward violence toward them. Read little bit of History and learn, why and how Israel occupied Gaza strip, and West Bank, What caused palastinie, muslims to move out of Israel in the first place.
     

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    Yes I can show proof. I don't get my information from media, but I'm almost certain you have never bothered to check at least one unbiased, authentic sources, about the conflict in palastine.

    The terrorists in palastine who carry out terrorist activities are called terrorrists. Do you have any other name to call such people?

    You clearly don't know what you are talking about. If you can, show me one single attack carried out by Israelies, as not a response toward violence toward them. Read little bit of History and learn, why and how Israel occupied Gaza strip, and West Bank, What caused palastinie, muslims to move out of Israel in the first place.


    Brother I think you can not blame this poor Muslims because Allah instructed them to do so

    here are just some of the verses,

    Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

    "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. This was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in just the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.

    Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 327: - “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”

    Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us" The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam
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    Yes I can show proof. I don't get my information from media, but I'm almost certain you have never bothered to check at least one unbiased, authentic sources, about the conflict in palastine.

    The terrorists in palastine who carry out terrorist activities are called terrorrists. Do you have any other name to call such people?

    You clearly don't know what you are talking about. If you can, show me one single attack carried out by Israelies, as not a response toward violence toward them. Read little bit of History and learn, why and how Israel occupied Gaza strip, and West Bank, What caused palastinie, muslims to move out of Israel in the first place.

    First of all I am thankful about your unbaised information , I do b'live you know more about this issue than me

    these people do not know the true story but later on they will know it :yes:

    Note: I am not expecting any favour from you just speak the truth :yes:


    But one thing is for sure this hard wired brained will never able to see the reality

    What a tragedy !
     

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    මේ මුස්ලිම් සහොදරයන් හතවතට තට්‍ටු කර බලන්න අද කී දෙනෙක් කැමතිද? අල් මාදි ඇවිත් මරලා හරි අනෙක් අයව ඉස්ලම් කරනවාට? ගාඩා‍ෆිත් කියලා තිබුනා ආල්ලා යුරොපයම ඉස්ලාම් කරන්නෙ අයුද වලින් නොවන බව

    ඉතින් මෙ සිතුවිල්ල එච්චර හොද දෙයක් නෙමෙයි? අනෙක් එක මම අහන්න කැමති ආල්ලා මුස්ලිම් අයගෙන් බාලාපොරොත්තු වන්නෙ කුමක්ද?

    අනෙක් පැහ්තෙන් පර ලොව ගැන කතා කරනකොට අපි දන්නවා බුදුන් දුකක් නෝඑමැති සැපතද නොමැති යමක් ගැන උගන්වනවා එන්ම් නිවනක් ගැන, ජෙසුස් වහන්සෙ කතා කරනවා ස්වර්ගයක් ගැන "පියානණ් වහන්සෙගෙ ගෘහයක් ගැන අදාත්මික ස්තනයක් කිසිදු දුකක් නොමැති ස්තානයක් නමුත් ඉස්ලාමයෙ පමනක් තවත් රාගය උපදවන ස්තානයක් කන්යවන් 77ක් ගැන සදහන් වෙනවා ඉතින් ඇයි මේ ලෞකීක දෙවල් ස්වර්ගයේ කියන එක මදක් පැහැදිලි කරන්න් කිය්ලා මා ඉල්ලා සිටිනවා?

    අපි දන්නවා ජෙසුස් වහ්න්සෙ පැහැදිලිව කියලා තියෙන්වා අවහ විවහ කටයුතු ස්වර්ගයෙ සිදු නොවන බව එයත් එක් සාදකයක් වනවා ජෙසුස් වහන්සෙ ආල්ලාගෙ පනිවුඩ කරුවකු නොවන බව මම හිතන්නෙ ගොඩාක් සන්සක්ප ඉස්ලමය බයිබලයෙන් සොරගෙන ත්මන්ට අවස්ස පමනින් විකෘති කිරිමක් කර තිබෙන බව ඉතා පැහැදිලි

    සමා වෙන්න ඔනැ මෙ දරුවාගෙ සිත රිදුනා නම් නමුත් ඔබෙ පිලිතුරු මා අපෙක්ශා කරමි, එ වගෙම ඔනැම දරුනු ප්‍රශ්න හමුවි වියරු වැටි සතුන්ගෙ නම් හො කුනුහරප කීමෙන් වලකින්න එහි ප්‍රතිවිපාක අයහපත් වන නිසා

    ඔබට දෙවියන්ගෙ පිහිටයි !
     

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    Holy Quran - Ch:35 Sura Fatir

    10.
    Whosoever desires honour, power and glory then to Allah belong all honour, power and glory [and one can get honour, power and glory only by obeying and worshipping Allah (Alone)]. To Him ascend (all) the goodly words, and the righteous deeds exalt it (the goodly words i.e. the goodly words are not accepted by Allah unless and until they are followed by good deeds), but those who plot evils, theirs will be severe torment. And the plotting of such will perish.


    43.
    (They took to flight because of their) arrogance in the land and their plotting of evil. But the evil plot encompasses only him who makes it. Then, can they expect anything (else), but the Sunnah (way of dealing) of the peoples of old? So no change will you find in Allah's Sunnah (way of dealing), and no turning off will you find in Allah's Sunnah (way of dealing).

    44. Have they not travelled in the land, and seen what was the end of those before them
    , and they were superior to them in power? Allah is not such that anything in the heavens or in the earth escapes Him. Verily, He is All-Knowing, All-Omnipotent.

    45. And if Allah were to punish men for that which they earned, He would not leave a moving (living) creature on the surface of the earth, but He gives them respite to an appointed term, and when their term comes, then verily, Allah is Ever All-Seer of His slaves.

    Sura Al-'Asr
    [FONT=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
    [/FONT]
    [FONT=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]By (the Token of) Time (through the ages), [/FONT][FONT=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Verily Man is in loss, [/FONT]​
    [FONT=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Except such as have Faith, and do righteous deeds, and (join together) in the mutual teaching of Truth, and of Patience and Constancy. [/FONT]
     

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    Holy Quran - Ch:35 Sura Fatir

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    Whosoever desires honour, power and glory then to Allah belong all honour, power and glory [and one can get honour, power and glory only by obeying and worshipping Allah (Alone)]. To Him ascend (all) the goodly words, and the righteous deeds exalt it (the goodly words i.e. the goodly words are not accepted by Allah unless and until they are followed by good deeds), but those who plot evils, theirs will be severe torment. And the plotting of such will perish.


    43.
    (They took to flight because of their) arrogance in the land and their plotting of evil. But the evil plot encompasses only him who makes it. Then, can they expect anything (else), but the Sunnah (way of dealing) of the peoples of old? So no change will you find in Allah's Sunnah (way of dealing), and no turning off will you find in Allah's Sunnah (way of dealing).

    44. Have they not travelled in the land, and seen what was the end of those before them
    , and they were superior to them in power? Allah is not such that anything in the heavens or in the earth escapes Him. Verily, He is All-Knowing, All-Omnipotent.

    45. And if Allah were to punish men for that which they earned, He would not leave a moving (living) creature on the surface of the earth, but He gives them respite to an appointed term, and when their term comes, then verily, Allah is Ever All-Seer of His slaves.

    Sura Al-'Asr
    [FONT=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
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    [FONT=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]By (the Token of) Time (through the ages), [/FONT][FONT=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Verily Man is in loss, [/FONT]​
    [FONT=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Except such as have Faith, and do righteous deeds, and (join together) in the mutual teaching of Truth, and of Patience and Constancy. [/FONT]

    You know what Satan said after his falls?

    "I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain." - Satan da ape man



    no more than 600 years after Jesus , Satan brought his most aggressive kind of a false religion in the name of GOD

    We know his prophet is the worse one ever lived in this world (actually he is not a propher at all - he is the prophet of doom) He kills , he rapes women, he is a full time sinner how can be this man a prophet of loving GOD?

    Why Islam so worried about Sonship of Jesus ? Divinity of Jesus Christ? We know before Christianity Satan brought many false doctrines to decieve people then God did what no man can ever do Satan knew he could not make it in this way so he brought a new religion talking about true GOD but just like "Cat is out of the bag" his sole purpose is revealed "To confuse Christians & Kill of the jews and true Christians"

    That is why Islam is the only religion who talks about exaxtly opposite to one particular religion , Islam is the only religion try to say Jesus is not the messiah and islam is so worried about Jesus Sonship, Crusifiction & Salvation

    BUT WHY?
     

    Y2K

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    In your heart
    Can you please explain what Allah is expecting from you? Even Mohomed have not seen Allah ? WHy Mohomed got very scared after he saw that so called "Gaberial Angel" ?
     

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    Yes I can show proof. I don't get my information from media, but I'm almost certain you have never bothered to check at least one unbiased, authentic sources, about the conflict in palastine.

    The terrorists in palastine who carry out terrorist activities are called terrorrists. Do you have any other name to call such people?

    Terrorism means as per dictionary http://www.thefreedictionary.com/terrorism *The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons*
    if we categorize based on this above definition, even Israel is terrorists, if u say No..You are biased.

    as of now If we look at from the other point of view, for eg. you stay in your home, and i come from some other area, and ask for help to stay in your home for some days, after some days, I say, you get out and this house is belong to me. and when you fight back, you are labelled as terrorists. i dont know how far it is suitable to label them, but of course if we label them based on definition yes..if they are fighting for their home, they can be called as freedom fighters.

    You clearly don't know what you are talking about. If you can, show me one single attack carried out by Israelies, as not a response toward violence toward them. Read little bit of History and learn, why and how Israel occupied Gaza strip, and West Bank, What caused palastinie, muslims to move out of Israel in the first place.


    I'm not clear that without even giving any logic answering you keep on telling i don't know what im talking about, i don't know either you know something, seems to be lawyers words to undermine some one else comments. if i don't know history you should have provided your reference at least, which you r referring to , then i may come back to u.

    interestingly your request is ridiculous, single attack carried out by Israelis on innocent people, even if we ask Grade 1 student he would have provided to you, though Israelites keep on prohibiting some websites to hide their hand work.see some below how they kill innocent children, if i give you major people are killed you will say they fired rockets that is why im giving this, what this children did to them. you have to give me right explanation for this.



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    I'm not saying only Jews do this, i posted this in response to your request,in which u said Israelite fire in response to Palestine violence, now my question is to you, still you feel isralites are opened minded and good people then why they are killing innocents civilians, if you say NO, first Hamas fired to israel civilians and killed 2 people, then israel killed 20 peoples including children and women, will it make your argument Israelite are opened & better people. if you see total conflict damage done by Israelite are much higher than palestines .[/SIZE]