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Y2K

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In your heart
I really do not understand the difference between your true God
and the other God.

Truth is there is only one true God, we christian b'live he came to this world just to show the Life (the real life) (There can be two almighty Gods) :yes:



Anyway, they both seem to think that
if we go down and repent our sins we can get away with everything.
So, according to them one can kill his own mother and go to
your God or the other God and ask for forgiveness.

Brother I still remember first I read about Lord Buddha's life story when I was in year 9, His story change the way I think about this world one can say I was nearly converted to Buddhism (If Jesus has not come to this world today I will be a Buddhist guy) but same time I love Jesus Christ but his story does not make any sense for me not like Buddha's story his story and teachings make real sense to me

I am not going to tell you what happen to me next ..... back to your question sir

Why don’t you question how Angulimala become enlighten after hearing Lord Buddha's marvelous teachings? According to you that is not fair right? Because he kill many people he was about to kill his mother if I am not mistaken then Buddha interfere and escape him not only from his great sin but also this samsara

So we believe God is merciful and same time he is just so this is his rules (you guys calling it "cause and effect" we should obey it . There is a law and law giver same time there are punishment for those who breaking the universal law but if God show no mercy or forgiveness we all die in our sins, so God gave us a way to make us free

Mchan you cannot just ask his forgiveness you have to repent from the bottom of your heart then you should ask God forgiveness god will forgive you if you really change your life for good but God just can't release you from all your sins there is always for price for it so "Jesus pay that price in full" but you have to be born again to inherit his kingdom

Jesus gave a nice condition for us to get his forgiveness

He said "But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins." Matthew 6:15


Some people do horrible things to others and ask forgiveness from God but when the same thing done to them they won't forgive others, so according to Jesus Christ do you think he will forgive those kind of people?

Remember the Lord's Prayer?

"and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors"

Brother it is not easy thing but everything is possible with GOD

Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible." :yes:


I hope you get some kind of an idea about Christian forgiveness
moreover: we Know God has all the power and Authority so he is the judge he has given his laws and he has taught about the consequences also and most importantly he has given a way to be free

For example: we know our president can release some prisoners as and when he wants

Do you ever think how & why? because by law he has power to do so no one can stop him not even the judicial system (that is we call executive powers) but we know human power always bias and always fail but not God's power and kingdom . God is just so he will never release anyone who sin unless he/she pay the penalty bible says wages of sin is death Jesus die because of us those who believe in him will be save (that is the only way he can justify his favor because we all his children)

For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. - Romans 6:23




Anyway, my joke as you call it was not considered as a sin.

Not at all brother, when we small we use to ask even silly question from our parent but they never get angry on us if your worldy father or mother is like that all mercyful heavenly father will love you more than that so do not worry keep on questioning (in a proper way)


See, I am still here alive. But mind you my intention was not
to make fun of their belief.
Never ever make fun of it but love what is right hate what is evil quite frankly


It is purely out of compassion.
I too have been living in fear just like them long time ago. But with the following I came to know that I have lived in fear without a valid reason.

Brother we love Jesus Christ not because he has all the power and aurthority but He loved us first now we realise how much he loves me and how good the lord is

the correct world in Christianity is "Respect" If Jesus Christ want to worship him by force there is no reason him to come down as a human being and die for the truth just think about it brother

Other thing is he become humble enough to come to this world left all his true glory we are truely not even worthy of it mchan remember he never ask his children to worship him even all he wants is our love, all we wants is ultimately God's love, our searching for that true love only end with Jesus Christ

I am very upset the way you think of our GOD

“Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

37 Jesus replied: “ ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ [a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
- Matthew 22:36-40

Now this is Christianity :yes:




By the way, I do not want to go to your God (true or not)by force or due to fear of death.
B'live me son Jesus (Our God) never ever wants you to come to him because of the fear rather he wants us to come trough LOVE

My only Advise is never believe in anyone massages never ever believe in GOD for the sake of your well being



I prefer to sacrifice myself to Buddhism than living a hilarious life. As for the blessings, I can only say wish you the same CHILD.
Hope you will get to understand the real truth with those blessings. Thanks

Brother today you can not ask me to study Buddhism I have learn all major religion by the grace of the lord I can be sure about one GOD , I can even die for the eternal truth by the power of the holy spirit (Just as Jesus and his disciples did)

As a good way of life I appriciate Buddhism

Why I am doing this ? "I do b'live at least one person will listen to my messege"

No harm brother thank you for questioning the truth

God Bless You !!!
 

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Why don’t you question how Angulimala become enlighten after hearing Lord Buddha's marvelous teachings? According to you that is not fair right? Because he kill many people he was about to kill his mother if I am not mistaken then Buddha interfere and escape him not only from his great sin but also this samsara


I have no question regarding Angulimala. He was known as Ahinsaka during his school days. His colleagues were jealous of him and started backbiting him. They started making up stories and made their teacher punish Ahinsaka. It was his school teacher who told him to collect 1000 fingers as a reward for his teachings. So, poor Ahinsaka went to bring fingers like an obedient student. Out of gratitude he wanted to reward his teacher for teaching him for a long time. Since there’s no one to offer fingers he had to kill. This killing made him ruthless because you can never kill with a soft heart. He was determined to reward his teacher and didn’t complain. At the end he became a person with a very hard/rough mind. Hard enough to kill his own mother to keep the promise. Lord Buddha came to know this. He prevented Angulimala from commiting that horrible sin because of his teacher. If you think that it is wrong, I am sorry I cannot agree with you.


As for your God, I have a small story to make you understand something.
I make a robot to sing. But this robot is not singing. It is only dancing. So, should I punish the robot for not singing? Should I make my son a robot to go and talk with the robot to tell the robot that I will punish it for not singing.

If your God wants people to be good and full of love, why didn’t he make people full of love and compassion. Why did he make evil people who commit grave sins and later punish them to be good? Why didn’t he create humans
with a forgiving nature if that is the expectation? If he is that powerful, why take the trouble to punish his son to correct his own making.

Again, if I make a butter cake, I need not punish the cake if it is a chocolate cake. I should change the recipe without making my son a cake.
 

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සිංහල මගේ රට
කලකට ෙපර French Corner නමින් දැවැන්ත මුස්ලිම් ෙරදි පිළි ව්‍යාපාරයක් පැවතුනි. එහි හිමිකරු අති සැදැහැවත් මුස්ලිම් ලබ්ධිකෙයක් විය. ඔහු සිය ආගම දිවි ෙදවැනි ෙකොට ඇදහීය.

ආහාර ෙලස පධාන වශෙයන් ගන්නා ලද්ෙද් පළතුරු යුෂ බවද පසිද්ධ විය. සියලු ශී ලාංකික මුස්ලිමුන්ට ෙමොහු සැබෑ ආඩම්බරයක් විය.
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ව්‍යාපාරයන්ෙග් සාර්ථකත්වය නිසා ෙමොහුට කිසිම ආර්ථික අපහසුතාවක් ෙනොතිබුණි. හිත යට කැකෑෙරමින් තිබුෙන් එකම බලාෙපොෙරොත්තුවක් පමණි. එනම් තම ආගමට කුරාණෙය් අනුමත කුමක් ෙහෝ අති විෙශේෂ වූ ෙසේවයක් කිරීමයි. ඒ තුලින් සිය ආගමික විමුක්තිය ලඟා කර ගැනීමයි. අපෙග් ජාතිෙය් අවාසනාවට ඔහුෙග් විමුක්ති මාර්ගයට ෙගොදුර ෙලස ඔහු ෙතෝරා ගත්ෙත් ඔහුට කිසිම වරදක් සිහිෙනකින්වත් ෙනොකල අහිංසක දුප්පත් සිංහල තරුණ පරපුරයි.

උතුම් මානුෂික ගුණාංග නිසා නිවෙසේ ෙසවන හා රැකවරණ සපයා දුන් යෙමක්ෙග් ස්ථානෙය් නැවතී, ඉන්පසු එම පුද්ගලයාෙග් සුරතල් බැටලු පැටවා ෙගල සිඳ මස් කිරීමට යෙමක්ට රහසිගත ෙදොළක් උපදීද? අන්න ඒ ආකාරෙයන්ම, ෙමම මුස්ලිම් ව්‍යාපාරිකයාට, අපෙග් අහිංසක තරුණ පරපුර
වැනසීෙම් ආගමික උවමනාවක් මතුවිය.

මුස්ලිම් ඇදහීමට අනුව, ෙමම මුලු ෙලෝකයම ඔවුන්ට සිය මනස්ගාත ෙදවියා විසින් මවන ලද්දකි. එම විශ්වාසයන් පිළි ෙනොගන්ෙනෝ කවෙරක් ෙහෝ ෙව්වා ෙපොදුෙව් "කෆීර්" ෙලස හැඳින්ෙව්. පිරිසිඳු මුස්ලිම් ආගමට අනුව ෙමම "කෆීර්" යනු දුටු තැන, අල්ලාගත් තැන වහාම මරා දැමිය යුත්ෙතකි (මුස්ලිම් ෙලෝකෙය් මහා පඬියා "ශාකීර් නයික්" නම් මනුෂ්‍ය පෙරේතයා මෙය කිසි ලැජ්ජාවක් නැතිව ෙද්ශනා කරන්ෙන් රටින් රටට ආරාධනා පිට ආරාධනා ලබමින් ගමන් කරමිනි, බලන්න )

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"කෆීර්" ලා වන අපි රටක බහුතරය නම්, ඔවුන්ට ෙමය නිසි ෙසේ කල ෙනොහැක, එවිට ඔවුන්ෙග් පධානම අරමුණ වන්ෙන් "කෆීර්" ලා වඳ කර දැමීම සඳහා ගත හැකි සියලු දීර්ඝ කාලීන කියා මාර්ග රහෙසේ ් ගැනීමයි.පිරිසිඳු මුසලිම් ඉගැන්වීම් කියාත්මක කිරීමට
කම කමෙයන් තම වට පිටාව සකස් කර ගැනීමයි.

එබැවින් ෙමොහු විසින් ෙද්ව කාර්යයකට අත ගසන ලදි. එනම් කෆීර් තරුණෙයෝ දීර්ඝ කාලීනව අඩපණ කිරීමයි. මහා පරිමාණෙයන් කුඩු ආනයනය කිරීම අරඹන ලද්ෙද් ෙම් සඳහායි.

සෑෙහන කාලයක් තිස්ෙසේ මහා විනාශයක් සිදුවූ පසු ෙමොහු නීතිෙය් රැහැනට ෙකොටු විය. මාද්‍යයන්ට ෙමය තවත් එක් සාමාන්ය කුඩු රෙජක් හසුවීමක් පමණක් විය. පාප ෙච්තනාවන්ෙග් බරපතළ කම ගැන කිසිම විභාගයක් ෙනොමැතිව වරදකරු බන්ධනාගාර ගත විය.

French Corner නම වහාම ඉවත් කරන ලදි. NO LIMIT යන නම ඈඳා ගන්නා ලදි. දැන් පැමිණි ෙව්ගයටත් වඩා ෙව්ගෙයන් ෙරදි පිළි ෙවළදාම ඉදිරියට ෙගන යනු ලබන්ෙන් ඔහුෙග් බිරිඳ හා පවුල විසිනි. සියලු ෙසේවකෙයෝ මුස්ලිම් ජාතිකයන්ම පමණක් ෙතෝරා ගන්ෙන් කැකෑෙරන ජාතිවාදය හා මුස්ලිම් ආගම 100% පිළිපැදිය යුතු නිසයි.

ජාතිවාදය අංශු මාතයක් ෙහෝ ෙනොමැති අපෙග් සිංහලෙයෝ සිය ෙරදි පිළි අවශයතා සඳහා මුලින්ම ෙගොඩ වන්ෙන් ෙමම ස්ථානයටයි. PALLU, GLITZ යන නම් වලින් දිෙනන් දින බූවල්ලා අඬු දිග හරින්ෙන් අනික් මුස්ලිමුන් උපයා ෙදන මුදලින් ෙනොව, පිරිසිඳුවම, සිය ජාතිෙය් ෙගල සිඳීමට ෙනොදැන උපකාර කරන අහිංසක සිංහල පාරිෙභෝගික ජනතාවෙග් මුදලිනි. එම මුදල් මකර කටටම දැම්මා වන්ෙන්, එයින් එකදු සිංහලෙයකුට සුලු රැකියාවක් ෙහෝ ෙනොලැෙබන බැවිනි. ෙමම හම්බ ගුහාෙවන් ෙරදි පිළි ගත් ඔබට එකුදු සිංහල ෙවළඳ සහායකෙයක් මුණ ෙනොගැසුෙන් ෙම් නිසයි. HOUSE of FASHIONS වැනි විකල්ප, ඉතා අඩු මිළ, ඉහල තත්වෙය් සිංහළ ෙරදි පිළි ස් ථාන ඇතිවත්, ෙතෝරා ෙබ්රා ගැනීමක් ෙනොමැතිව ෙමම හම්බ ගුහා ෙපෝසත් කිරීෙම් විපාක ජාතියටම දැෙනන්නට පටන් ගන්නා

විට එය හැෙමෝටම පමාද වැඩි වනු ඇත.

ෙහෙරොයින් ආනයනය සම්බන්ධ අලුත්ම පවෘතිය වන්ෙන් මුස්ලිම් ව්‍යාපාරිකයන් විසින් අර්තාපල් Container තුල ෙබොරු අර්තාපල් ෙලස කලවමට ෙහෙරෝයින් සඟවා ෙගන්වා ඇති
බවයි. දක්ෂ ෙර්ගු නිළධාරීන් විසින් ෙමය හසු කර ගත්තද, දඩයක් ෙගවා ගැලවී යාමට තරම් ෙමොවුන් සංවිධානාත්මක බව දැනගන්නට ලැෙබ්.

ෙම් සියල්ල මැද, අපට ඉතිරිව ඇති එකම ආරක්ෂාව නම් සැඟවුනු මුස්ලිම් අලුෙගෝසුකම් සියලු ෙහළයන්ට වහ වහා අවෙබෝධ කර දීමයි

Source:Sinhala Ravaya
 

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I have no question regarding Angulimala. He was known as Ahinsaka during his school days. His colleagues were jealous of him and started backbiting him. They started making up stories and made their teacher punish Ahinsaka. It was his school teacher who told him to collect 1000 fingers as a reward for his teachings. So, poor Ahinsaka went to bring fingers like an obedient student.

Poor Ahinsaka? Obedient Student? His intension is good but his deeds were wrong brother


Out of gratitude he wanted to reward his teacher for teaching him for a long time. Since there’s no one to offer fingers he had to kill. This killing made him ruthless because you can never kill with a soft heart. He was determined to reward his teacher and didn’t complain. At the end he became a person with a very hard/rough mind. Hard enough to kill his own mother to keep the promise. Lord Buddha came to know this. He prevented Angulimala from commiting that horrible sin because of his teacher. If you think that it is wrong, I am sorry I cannot agree with you.


Do you thing that is a good deed? (oh Boy)



As for your God, I have a small story to make you understand something.
I make a robot to sing. But this robot is not singing. It is only dancing. So, should I punish the robot for not singing? Should I make my son a robot to go and talk with the robot to tell the robot that I will punish it for not singing.

Your example is not relevant with his mighty creation of Human , yeah he should have create robots with 100% working condition but what the use of it brother ? love can not be forced humans are not robots they create the image of the God, I am totally disagreed on Robotics view of Human, Humans are his special creation


If your God wants people to be good and full of love, why didn’t he make people full of love and compassion.
Brother initially humans are like that but mean time they have even "freedom of Choice" because love can not be forced. All human have that potential but they choice evil funny thing is when they reap that they sow they curse GOD .

B'live me brother you can be like Jesus with the power of the holy spirit



Why did he make evil people who commit grave sins and later punish them to be good?
I think the concept of "free will " you got so confused , you do not like to take the blame for your own sins , all evil things are a product of your choice (it is not a so called created thing that all ways exists, just think abt it brother)



Why didn’t he create humanswith a forgiving nature if that is the expectation?
Brother as i told you before every human having that forgiving nature that divine spark is with us but you need God's help to be like him because all the pefection comes from GOD

but as I told you before "you should always have choice " otherwise you can not say , you have done / chosen good deeds rather than doing evil

it is no point of having a freedom of choice if you do not have any other choicem, it is as simple as that brother just think about that

If you can do good , love one another and you know that that will do no harm to anyone then why the hell you are not just doing good? I know you know what is good and what is bad and you know the consiquences also but why you are not doing only the good thing? because you have not make your choice you just want you "survival"





If he is that powerful, why take the trouble to punish his son to correct his own making.

As i explain you before God has set some rules, he himself can not break it (but we know human change their own laws according to their needs) the rule was simple "wages of sin is death" so all men should have perish unless Jesus Christ came to bear that sins of the whole world. God just can't forgive sins then we can not say that he is just God.

so he has to do it according to his own law that is why he himself bear witness to the truth




Again, if I make a butter cake, I need not punish the cake if it is a chocolate cake. I should change the recipe without making my son a cake.

What is your point ? I didn't get it

He has to became Human to pay the panalty rather than setting their and claim to be GOD
 
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Mr.Insight says
I have no question regarding Angulimala.:confused:Why? He was known as Ahinsaka during his school days. His colleagues were jealous of him and started backbiting him. They started making up stories and made their teacher punish Ahinsaka. It was his school teacher who told him to collect 1000 fingers as a reward for his teachings. So, poor Ahinsaka went to bring fingers like an obedient student. Out of gratitude he wanted to reward his teacher for teaching him for a long time. Since there’s no one to offer fingers he had to kill. This killing made him ruthless because you can never kill with a soft heart. He was determined to reward his teacher and didn’t complain. At the end he became a person with a very hard/rough mind. Hard enough to kill his own mother to keep the promise. Lord Buddha came to know this. He prevented Angulimala from commiting that horrible sin because of his teacher. If you think that it is wrong, I am sorry I cannot agree with you :shocked:.

මේ දරුවා කියනවා අන්ගුලිමල වැරදිකරුවකු නොවෙයිලු එම පාප ක්‍රියාව කලේ ගුරු භාක්තිය නිසාලු මම හිතන්නෙ මෙ දරුවා කර්මය ගැන නොදන්නවා වෙන්න ඔනැ

මෙතනදි පටලවාගන්න එපා එයගෙ මේ කාරනයෙට හෙතුවු චෙතනාව ගුරු බක්තිය නමුත් එ ඉ‍ටු කිරිමට කල යුතු ක්‍රියාව යහපත් නැ අනික එය සිදු කිරන මොහොතේ මිනිමැරුම් චෙතනාව පහල වෙනවා එම නිසා ඔහු මිනීමරුවෙක් ඉතින් බුදු බණ අසා රහත් වුනත් ඔහු වරද කරුවෙකු වනවා නිතිය හමුවේ.

අනෙක් කාරනය තමයි දැන් ඔබ වෙනත් අයගෙ දහම කුමන හො අරමුනක් නිසා ප්‍රශ්න කරනවා දිගට හරහාට ඉතින් අපිට නම් කෙන්ති යන්නෙ නැ මොකද ප්‍රශ්න අහන එක හොදයි දැන ගන්න

නමුත් පොඩ්ඩක් හිතොවොත් කෙනෙකුට අහන්න පුලුවන් ඇයි බුදු හමුදුරුවො 999 දෙනෙකුම මරනකල් හිටියෙ ඇයි පලමු මිනිය මරන්නට පෙර ඇයි නොපැමිනියෙ කියා? එහෙම වුනා නම් ජිවිත 999 බෙරි අන්ගුලිමාලත් රහත් වෙනවා නිතිය ඉදිරියෙ වරද කරුවකු නොවි

ඉතින් යලුවා මෙ ප්‍රශ්න ඇති වනවා කියන්නෙ ඔබ දෙවල් ගැන විවිධ පැතිවලින් ගැබුරට හිතනවා කියන එකයි ඉතින් ප්‍රශ්න කරන්න දැන ගන්න

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කලකට ෙපර French Corner නමින් දැවැන්ත මුස්ලිම් ෙරදි පිළි ව්‍යාපාරයක් පැවතුනි. එහි හිමිකරු අති සැදැහැවත් මුස්ලිම් ලබ්ධිකෙයක් විය. ඔහු සිය ආගම දිවි ෙදවැනි ෙකොට ඇදහීය.

ආහාර ෙලස පධාන වශෙයන් ගන්නා ලද්ෙද් පළතුරු යුෂ බවද පසිද්ධ විය. සියලු ශී ලාංකික මුස්ලිමුන්ට ෙමොහු සැබෑ ආඩම්බරයක් විය.
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ව්‍යාපාරයන්ෙග් සාර්ථකත්වය නිසා ෙමොහුට කිසිම ආර්ථික අපහසුතාවක් ෙනොතිබුණි. හිත යට කැකෑෙරමින් තිබුෙන් එකම බලාෙපොෙරොත්තුවක් පමණි. එනම් තම ආගමට කුරාණෙය් අනුමත කුමක් ෙහෝ අති විෙශේෂ වූ ෙසේවයක් කිරීමයි. ඒ තුලින් සිය ආගමික විමුක්තිය ලඟා කර ගැනීමයි. අපෙග් ජාතිෙය් අවාසනාවට ඔහුෙග් විමුක්ති මාර්ගයට ෙගොදුර ෙලස ඔහු ෙතෝරා ගත්ෙත් ඔහුට කිසිම වරදක් සිහිෙනකින්වත් ෙනොකල අහිංසක දුප්පත් සිංහල තරුණ පරපුරයි.

උතුම් මානුෂික ගුණාංග නිසා නිවෙසේ ෙසවන හා රැකවරණ සපයා දුන් යෙමක්ෙග් ස්ථානෙය් නැවතී, ඉන්පසු එම පුද්ගලයාෙග් සුරතල් බැටලු පැටවා ෙගල සිඳ මස් කිරීමට යෙමක්ට රහසිගත ෙදොළක් උපදීද? අන්න ඒ ආකාරෙයන්ම, ෙමම මුස්ලිම් ව්‍යාපාරිකයාට, අපෙග් අහිංසක තරුණ පරපුර
වැනසීෙම් ආගමික උවමනාවක් මතුවිය.

මුස්ලිම් ඇදහීමට අනුව, ෙමම මුලු ෙලෝකයම ඔවුන්ට සිය මනස්ගාත ෙදවියා විසින් මවන ලද්දකි. එම විශ්වාසයන් පිළි ෙනොගන්ෙනෝ කවෙරක් ෙහෝ ෙව්වා ෙපොදුෙව් "කෆීර්" ෙලස හැඳින්ෙව්. පිරිසිඳු මුස්ලිම් ආගමට අනුව ෙමම "කෆීර්" යනු දුටු තැන, අල්ලාගත් තැන වහාම මරා දැමිය යුත්ෙතකි (මුස්ලිම් ෙලෝකෙය් මහා පඬියා "ශාකීර් නයික්" නම් මනුෂ්‍ය පෙරේතයා මෙය කිසි ලැජ්ජාවක් නැතිව ෙද්ශනා කරන්ෙන් රටින් රටට ආරාධනා පිට ආරාධනා ලබමින් ගමන් කරමිනි, බලන්න )

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"කෆීර්" ලා වන අපි රටක බහුතරය නම්, ඔවුන්ට ෙමය නිසි ෙසේ කල ෙනොහැක, එවිට ඔවුන්ෙග් පධානම අරමුණ වන්ෙන් "කෆීර්" ලා වඳ කර දැමීම සඳහා ගත හැකි සියලු දීර්ඝ කාලීන කියා මාර්ග රහෙසේ ් ගැනීමයි.පිරිසිඳු මුසලිම් ඉගැන්වීම් කියාත්මක කිරීමට
කම කමෙයන් තම වට පිටාව සකස් කර ගැනීමයි.

එබැවින් ෙමොහු විසින් ෙද්ව කාර්යයකට අත ගසන ලදි. එනම් කෆීර් තරුණෙයෝ දීර්ඝ කාලීනව අඩපණ කිරීමයි. මහා පරිමාණෙයන් කුඩු ආනයනය කිරීම අරඹන ලද්ෙද් ෙම් සඳහායි.

සෑෙහන කාලයක් තිස්ෙසේ මහා විනාශයක් සිදුවූ පසු ෙමොහු නීතිෙය් රැහැනට ෙකොටු විය. මාද්‍යයන්ට ෙමය තවත් එක් සාමාන්ය කුඩු රෙජක් හසුවීමක් පමණක් විය. පාප ෙච්තනාවන්ෙග් බරපතළ කම ගැන කිසිම විභාගයක් ෙනොමැතිව වරදකරු බන්ධනාගාර ගත විය.

French Corner නම වහාම ඉවත් කරන ලදි. NO LIMIT යන නම ඈඳා ගන්නා ලදි. දැන් පැමිණි ෙව්ගයටත් වඩා ෙව්ගෙයන් ෙරදි පිළි ෙවළදාම ඉදිරියට ෙගන යනු ලබන්ෙන් ඔහුෙග් බිරිඳ හා පවුල විසිනි. සියලු ෙසේවකෙයෝ මුස්ලිම් ජාතිකයන්ම පමණක් ෙතෝරා ගන්ෙන් කැකෑෙරන ජාතිවාදය හා මුස්ලිම් ආගම 100% පිළිපැදිය යුතු නිසයි.

ජාතිවාදය අංශු මාතයක් ෙහෝ ෙනොමැති අපෙග් සිංහලෙයෝ සිය ෙරදි පිළි අවශයතා සඳහා මුලින්ම ෙගොඩ වන්ෙන් ෙමම ස්ථානයටයි. PALLU, GLITZ යන නම් වලින් දිෙනන් දින බූවල්ලා අඬු දිග හරින්ෙන් අනික් මුස්ලිමුන් උපයා ෙදන මුදලින් ෙනොව, පිරිසිඳුවම, සිය ජාතිෙය් ෙගල සිඳීමට ෙනොදැන උපකාර කරන අහිංසක සිංහල පාරිෙභෝගික ජනතාවෙග් මුදලිනි. එම මුදල් මකර කටටම දැම්මා වන්ෙන්, එයින් එකදු සිංහලෙයකුට සුලු රැකියාවක් ෙහෝ ෙනොලැෙබන බැවිනි. ෙමම හම්බ ගුහාෙවන් ෙරදි පිළි ගත් ඔබට එකුදු සිංහල ෙවළඳ සහායකෙයක් මුණ ෙනොගැසුෙන් ෙම් නිසයි. HOUSE of FASHIONS වැනි විකල්ප, ඉතා අඩු මිළ, ඉහල තත්වෙය් සිංහළ ෙරදි පිළි ස් ථාන ඇතිවත්, ෙතෝරා ෙබ්රා ගැනීමක් ෙනොමැතිව ෙමම හම්බ ගුහා ෙපෝසත් කිරීෙම් විපාක ජාතියටම දැෙනන්නට පටන් ගන්නා

විට එය හැෙමෝටම පමාද වැඩි වනු ඇත.

ෙහෙරොයින් ආනයනය සම්බන්ධ අලුත්ම පවෘතිය වන්ෙන් මුස්ලිම් ව්‍යාපාරිකයන් විසින් අර්තාපල් Container තුල ෙබොරු අර්තාපල් ෙලස කලවමට ෙහෙරෝයින් සඟවා ෙගන්වා ඇති
බවයි. දක්ෂ ෙර්ගු නිළධාරීන් විසින් ෙමය හසු කර ගත්තද, දඩයක් ෙගවා ගැලවී යාමට තරම් ෙමොවුන් සංවිධානාත්මක බව දැනගන්නට ලැෙබ්.

ෙම් සියල්ල මැද, අපට ඉතිරිව ඇති එකම ආරක්ෂාව නම් සැඟවුනු මුස්ලිම් අලුෙගෝසුකම් සියලු ෙහළයන්ට වහ වහා අවෙබෝධ කර දීමයි

Source:Sinhala Ravaya

I would like to see how Muslims respond to this letter
 

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Disparities and the reason according Buddhism(Cause and effects)

(01) Those who destroy lives of others will face untimely deaths
(02) Those who abstain from killing will enjoy long life
(03) Those who harm others will fall sick very often
(04) Those who abstain from harming will enjoy good health
(05) Those who practice ill will & hatred will be born as ugly
(06) Those who abstain from practicing ill will & hatred will be born as beautiful
(07) Those who practice jealousy will live in anonymity
(08) Those who abstain from practicing jealousy will be famous
(09) Those who abstain from offering alms will be born as poor
(10) Those who offer alms(generous ones) will be born in rich families
(11) Those who are proud & conceited will be born in low caste families
(12) Those who practice modesty will be born in high caste families
(13) Those who abstain from learning & practicing Dhamma will be born as foolish
(14) Those who learn & practice Dhamma will be born as intelligent
(Source: http://www.mahindarama.com/e-library/volition1.html)

I got rid of most of my fear and gave up praying because long life and diseases depend on these processes (niyama) which operate in the physical and mental realms.




Let me ask some questions?

These laws are enternal right ? Not Changing according to Buddhism?
According to your view, are they reasonable?
There is a method of get rid of it right?


So there is a certain law governing in this universe there is a well order process right? and we know that is reasonable also

there is a law but no law giver :(

According to Jesus Christ there is a law and there is a law giver
at the end of the day you will face the judgement
 

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මහ නිළමේ;11432378 said:
හරි !!!!! අපි මෙහෙම හිතමු. දැන් ඔබලාගේ අල්ලාහ් දෙවිඳුන් ඉන්නවා. ඒ වගේම මේ ලෝකයේ ඉතා තදින් ඉස්ලාම් ධර්මය අදහන රටවල් තියෙනවා. එත් ඇයි උන් වහන්සේට බැරිවුනේ ඉරාකයට ගහනකොට, ලිබියාවට ගහනකොට, ඇෆ්ගනොස්තානෙට ගහන කොට එක අඩුම වශයෙන් ප්‍රමාද හරි කරන්න. මොකද ඒ රටවල් ඉතා තදින් මුස්ලිම් ආගම අදහන ඒවා.

බලන්න තාමත් මුස්ලිම් මිනිස්සු 1000 ගණන් ඔය රටවල මැරෙනවා. එත් ඇයි ඔච්චර තමන්ගේ ආගමේ මිනිස්සු මැරෙනකම් අල්ලාහ් දෙවිඳුන් මොනවත් කරන්නේ නැත්තේ???

දේවයන් වහන්ස ඔය දේව හාස්කම් ,
පකිස්තනෙට ඇට්ටි හලන්න ගංවතුර ගලනෙත් අල්ල දෙවියන්ගේ කැමැත්තට .



මෙහෙම වෙන එක අහන්න දෙයක්ද මුන්ගේ තියන බඩජාරි කමට . වතුරේ ගිලිලා මැරෙන්න ගියත් මුන්ට හරකෙක් මරාගෙන කනවා තරම් සාමයක් වෙන කොහෙන්ද ?:angry::angry::angry::angry:

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මේ දරුවා කියනවා අන්ගුලිමල වැරදිකරුවකු නොවෙයිලු එම පාප ක්‍රියාව කලේ ගුරු භාක්තිය නිසාලු මම හිතන්නෙ මෙ දරුවා කර්මය ගැන නොදන්නවා වෙන්න ඔනැ

මෙතනදි පටලවාගන්න එපා එයගෙ මේ කාරනයෙට හෙතුවු චෙතනාව ගුරු බක්තිය නමුත් එ ඉ‍ටු කිරිමට කල යුතු ක්‍රියාව යහපත් නැ අනික එය සිදු කිරන මොහොතේ මිනිමැරුම් චෙතනාව පහල වෙනවා එම නිසා ඔහු මිනීමරුවෙක් ඉතින් බුදු බණ අසා රහත් වුනත් ඔහු වරද කරුවෙකු වනවා නිතිය හමුවේ.

අනෙක් කාරනය තමයි දැන් ඔබ වෙනත් අයගෙ දහම කුමන හො අරමුනක් නිසා ප්‍රශ්න කරනවා දිගට හරහාට ඉතින් අපිට නම් කෙන්ති යන්නෙ නැ මොකද ප්‍රශ්න අහන එක හොදයි දැන ගන්න

නමුත් පොඩ්ඩක් හිතොවොත් කෙනෙකුට අහන්න පුලුවන් ඇයි බුදු හමුදුරුවො 999 දෙනෙකුම මරනකල් හිටියෙ ඇයි පලමු මිනිය මරන්නට පෙර ඇයි නොපැමිනියෙ කියා? එහෙම වුනා නම් ජිවිත 999 බෙරි අන්ගුලිමාලත් රහත් වෙනවා නිතිය ඉදිරියෙ වරද කරුවකු නොවි

ඉතින් යලුවා මෙ ප්‍රශ්න ඇති වනවා කියන්නෙ ඔබ දෙවල් ගැන විවිධ පැතිවලින් ගැබුරට හිතනවා කියන එකයි ඉතින් ප්‍රශ්න කරන්න දැන ගන්න

ඔබට බුදුසරනයි
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Trying to pay his teacher according to teacher’s expectations is not wrong. But killing is wrong. I agree. Anyway he had enough merits collected in previous births to attain Nibbana from our Lord Buddha. ඉස්සර ගුරු ගෞරවය අද කාලේ වගේ නෙවෙයි. අංගුලිමාල ගුරු පඩුරු වෙනුවට තමයි ඇඟිලි එකතු කෙරුවේ. ඉගෙන ගත දෙයට ප්‍රති උපකාර කිරීම හොද වුවද මිනී මැරීම වැරදියි. කෙසේ වුවද ඉන්දියාව වැනි විශාල රටක ලක්ෂ ගණනක් දුක් විදින විට බුදු ඇසට පෙන්නුම් වන්නේ යම් පිනක් ඇති අයව පමණි. මැරුණු අයගේ හෝ ඔහුගේ පවට එය පමා වී ඇත. පමා වී හෝ ගුරු පඩුරු ගෙවීමට ගොස් අපායේ යාම වැළකුණි. ඒ ඔහුට නිවන් යාමට පෙර පින තිබු නිසාය. බොහෝ අය නිවන් අවබෝධ කර ඇත්තේ පෙර කල පිනක ප්‍රතිපලයක් නිසාය
 

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....God..........

If I make a robot to create an image of me or to perform something I want or or do good or be the way I want I should make it the way I want. If the robot is not functioning the way I want it is not the fault of the robot. I can’t punish the robot for the faults. For an example I make a robot to make butter cake. If the robot is making chocolate cake without making butter cake I can’t punish the robot. I made it, therefore I am responsible for that error.

As for the freedom of choice, again I make robots and send them out of the factory after programming them to sing in a party and cry in a funeral. If the opposite is happening I can’t say it is their choice. This choice is also a creation. Their ability to make choice too is a creation. If they make a wrong choice it is my fault. If I want them to sing in a party and cry in a funeral I should make it like that. If I make them with the ability to make a choice and if they make the wrong choice again I am responsible because I made them.

Free will is also a creation according to you if everything is created. So, if I make robots with a free will and if that is being misused by them it is not the fault of the robots. I have programmed this free will. Something wrong with my programming.

As for sins, If my robots go around killing I am responsible.

As for the cake, if I am a good cook I should be able to make a butter cake. If I get a chocolate cake when I try to make a butter cake it is my fault. I can’t punish the cake. If your God is trying to make good humans and if they are not , is it good to punish them?
 

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Let me ask some questions?

These laws are enternal right ? Not Changing according to Buddhism?
According to your view, are they reasonable?
There is a method of get rid of it right?


So there is a certain law governing in this universe there is a well order process right? and we know that is reasonable also

there is a law but no law giver :(

According to Jesus Christ there is a law and there is a law giver
at the end of the day you will face the judgement [/SIZE][/COLOR]

People do not commit sins knowingly. So, if there’s way to
get rid of sins it is good for all of us. But mind you, it is not easy. Have to follow the middle path to change and become a good human being if we do not have previous birth merits

There are so many evil people in the world. But they do not face judgement end of the day. Even the good ones do not get immediate results. Most of them get the return in future births. If there’s a law giver and if we were created, then we shouldn’t be punished at all because we were created to be like this. It is not our fault.

 

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In your heart
People do not commit sins knowingly. So, if there’s way to
get rid of sins it is good for all of us. But mind you, it is not easy. Have to follow the middle path to change and become a good human being if we do not have previous birth merits

There are so many evil people in the world (not born evil, they have chose evil ) . But they do not face judgement end of the day. (Brother you can b'live in that way but you have to face the judgement no matter what you b'live) Even the good ones do not get immediate results. (God gives enought time you to turn your ways) Most of them get the return in future births. (how do you know this?) If there’s a law giver and if we were created, then we shouldn’t be punished at all because we were created to be like this. It is not our fault. (Not at all no one is evil by birth even laord buddha confirmed it)


those ideas base on your faith in Buddha

But according to Jesus Christ he will come to judge the world at the end of the day there is no other way Jesus Christ himself is the way

We Christian don't b'live in Re-Birth concept you have only one life after that you will be in a deep sleep mode till the day of the Lord then all people raise to life for the Judgement

again I think it is very diffecult you to get my idead we were created to be good ,but we have been given the oppotunity to reject anything

We all have that freedom but everything is not good you have to know what is good and what is bad then you should do only what is good abrastain what is evil then you only you can inherit his kingdom
 

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In your heart
People do not commit sins knowingly. So,
that is not an excuse do you agree with me on that? there is a law, you should know the law, even if you do not know the law but has violated it court will find the culprit

better option is to know the law and abstain from violating it then know one can question you

God has clearly given his law , he has all the aurthority to punish sinner accordingly



if there’s way to get rid of sins it is good for all of us.
Yeah that has done within the law , Jesus Christ is the only way otherwise you should able to justify all the evil things you have done in your life (I don't think you could do that)


But mind you, it is not easy. Have to follow the middle path to change and become a good human being if we do not have previous birth merits

Yeah I like Middle path that is why i learn all the religious teachings rather than blindly b'live in one religion

Yeah Salvation won't come easy but Jesus Christ make all things new it may be impossible for average human but as Bible says with God everything is possible




There are so many evil people in the world. That is because they disobey GOD, their life has no place to God or Truth


But they do not face judgement end of the day.
Brother your not worthy enough to make that satement, most suitable word is "I think there is no judgement" we know in Devadutha sutraya (If i am not mistaken) Lord Buddha explaining about hell , it seems that is particular punishment for different kind of evil deeds one has done in his lifetime he spoke about "Yama Raju" (eventhough it is not a actually feagure) he ask many questions very similar to a judge are you going to say what Buddha told us is wrong too?



Even the good ones do not get immediate results. Most of them get the return in future births. If there’s a law giver and if we were created, then we shouldn’t be punished at all because we were created to be like this. It is not our fault.


You (we all) were created with a fee-will but Bible says "Everything is permissible"--but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible"--but not everything is constructive. 1 Corinthians 10:23

So God created man in his own image Genesis 1:27


we know by law we have to be resposible for particular deeds same way God has clearly said that "you can do everything but everything is not good" moreover he has given us " a free will " regarding that delay I think God gives you enough time to repent and turn away from you sins

And Jesus also said "you reap what you sow" you know if you saw a bad deed you reap bad fruits , if you sow a good deeds you reap good results
you know this but why the hell you don't follow this simple rule? :baffled:
I dont see anything bad in his laws ,..... do you?

This law is fixed? right? otherwise you can not even say "Dharmaya Akaliyai" it is not a correct thing to say everything is so uncertain (some laws/results are fixed)


All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. - Romans 2:12


Brother we are created to take our own dicision , we can do evil or we can do good things by using our free-will. other good thing is God has given a concience whenever we did something wrong we feel guilty of it

Now have you ever think why? How it could be? another mere coincidence?

Just think deeply
 
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Romans 3:19 "Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God."
 

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...........GOD.............

If I make a robot to create an image of me or to perform something I want or or do good or be the way I want I should make it the way I want. If the robot is not functioning the way I want it is not the fault of the robot. I can’t punish the robot for the faults. For an example I make a robot to make butter cake. If the robot is making chocolate cake without making butter cake I can’t punish the robot. I made it, therefore I am responsible for that error.

As for the freedom of choice, again I make robots and send them out of the factory after programming them to sing in a party and cry in a funeral. If the opposite is happening I can’t say it is their choice. This choice is also a creation. Their ability to make choice too is a creation. If they make a wrong choice it is my fault. If I want them to sing in a party and cry in a funeral I should make it like that. If I make them with the ability to make a choice and if they make the wrong choice again I am responsible because I made them.

Free will is also a creation according to you if everything is created. So, if I make robots with a free will and if that is being misused by them it is not the fault of the robots. I have programmed this free will. Something wrong with my programming.

As for sins, If my robots go around killing I am responsible.

As for the cake, if I am a good cook I should be able to make a butter cake. If I get a chocolate cake when I try to make a butter cake it is my fault. I can’t punish the cake. If your God is trying to make good humans and if they are not , is it good to punish them?

You have not seen the ABOVE. Do you have answers in your book for these

It was you who said that he’s judging at the end of the day. Not me. Now you are Saying he’s judging on the day of the Lord.


We all have that freedom but everything is not good you have to know what is good and what is bad then you should do only what is good abrastain what is evil then you only you can inherit his kingdomPeople do not commit sins knowingly. So,that is not an excuse do you agree with me on that? there is a law, you should know the law, even if you do not know the law but has violated it court will find the culprit


Again if I make a robot to bring my groceries in a car I should not
send it out without programming it to follow road rules. If the robot
is not following road rules it is the fault of my programming . If I send
my robot out without programming it to follow the rules also it is my fault



Yeah that has done within the law,

Yes, we all work according our level of intelligence and capacity of the brain. Some Have a good memory and others do not have. Again, to understand the law and follow You need to have a good analytical brain and a memory to keep all the rules. So, if we were given those two by your God we will not forget rules or make the wrong judgement.


in Devadutha sutraya (If i am not mistaken) Lord Buddha explaining about hell , it seems that is particular punishment for different kind of evil deeds one has done in his lifetime he spoke about "Yama Raju" (eventhough it is not a actually feagure) he ask many questions very similar to a judge are you going to say what Buddha told us is wrong too?


Yama raju is not the person you are talking about. Everyone is not going to Yama Raju for judgement. Only bad ones

Brother we are created to take our own dicision , we can do evil or we can do good things by using our free-will. other good thing is God has given a concience whenever we did something wrong we feel guilty of it

Again if your God gave us a good analytical brain to understand good and bad (with a good reasoning power) everyone can take the correct decision because they have a brain to understand what is wrong and what is good. This ability to identify good and bad was NOT GIVEN PROPERLY TO ALL.
THAT IS WHY SOME OF US CAN'T UNDERSTAND THIS. SO, IF THEY WERE NOT
GIVEN THAT ABILITY TO IDENTIFY GOOD AND BAD YOU CANNOT BLAME THEM FOR DOING THE WRONG THING.:rolleyes:

The ability to identify good and bad should have been given properly. Some have been given good brains by birth
to identify good & bad. But some were not given a brain like that. If they fail identify good or bad, it is NOT their fault because they were not given a good brain like the others. So, if these brains were created by your GOD, what is the reason for this difference?

 
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You have not seen the ABOVE. Do you have answers in your book for these

Brother Now I've fed answering you better b'live what you b'live remember one thing do not ever compare robots with human you have no capacity to understand Free-will so no worried you live your life "be good" :yes:



It was you who said that he’s judging at the end of the day. Not me. Now you are Saying he’s judging on the day of the Lord.


Brother he is judging the whole whole including you and me


Again if I make a robot to bring my groceries in a car I should not
send it out without programming it to follow road rules. If the robot
is not following road rules it is the fault of my programming . If I send
my robot out without programming it to follow the rules also it is my fault


Brother as i told you before Humans are not robots, you can not created a robot with Free-will . Animals also doesn not have so called Free-Will

Do not ever think Humans are machines or something like that humans are very special creation of GOD (Human can be like GOD)



Yes, we all work according our level of intelligence and capacity of the brain. Some Have a good memory and others do not have. Again, to understand the law and follow You need to have a good analytical brain and a memory to keep all the rules. So, if we were given those two by your God we will not forget rules or make the wrong judgement.


Well I am not totally agree on your idea all you have to do is to know God's love (Experiece God's love)


Yama raju is not the person you are talking about. Everyone is not going to Yama Raju for judgement. Only bad ones

Yeah but very semilar concept right? In his Judgement also he can release born-again people


Again if your God gave us a good analytical brain to understand good and bad (with a good reasoning power) everyone can take the correct decision because they have a brain to understand what is wrong and what is good. This ability to identify good and bad was NOT GIVEN PROPERLY TO ALL.
THAT IS WHY SOME OF US CAN'T UNDERSTAND THIS. SO, IF THEY WERE NOT
GIVEN THAT ABILITY TO IDENTIFY GOOD AND BAD YOU CANNOT BLAME THEM FOR DOING THE WRONG THING.:rolleyes:

The ability to identify good and bad should have been given properly. Some have been given good brains by birth
to identify good & bad. But some were not given a brain like that. If they fail identify good or bad, it is NOT their fault because they were not given a good brain like the others. So, if these brains were created by your GOD, what is the reason for this difference?


Brother these rules are very simple even small child can understand it , if you have disability by any chance then that will be treated as a special case

AS I always telling you have to have a good heart

anybody can understand love so no more bull shit theories

God is willing to help anyone who seeks him Jesus has promised to send his spirit of truth all you have to do is just repent and ask God forgiveness and wisdom (if you do not care means you are the one who resposible) Jesus said:

“I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. 13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. 14 He will bring glory to me by taking from what is mine and making it known to you. 15 All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will take from what is mine and make it known to you. " John 16:13-15

This is the only different , other religion you have to depent on yourself but in Christianity God is willing to help you (but not forcefully) when the spirit comes he will testfy Jesus Christ
 

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.....God........

How can you say that we cannot compare robots with Humans. It is a pity you can’t understand this. According to you, your God made man. We all know that man made robots. When there’s a problem with a robot we blame the scientist who designed it. When there’s a problem in a human being you blame the particular human being and not the scientist who designed him. Not only for robots, for anything the producer/manufacturer/designer/inventor is responsible for the quality of the product.

Just assume we design a robot with advance capabilities like humans and program them to take decisions depending on the situation. So, the way they analyze the situation should be programmed properly. If they take the wrong decision we can only blame ourselves.

Anyway, in the future humans will create robots to function
like us.

robots will be indistinguishable from human beings and some people may become Cyborgs: half man and half machine.
Source: http://future.wikia.com/wiki/Robotics

As for disabilities, it’s pity you don’t understand this. Are you telling me that all those who are not intelligent are disabled and all those who do not have a disability have the same level of intelligence?:confused: Well there’re special cases. I know that. But if you take the level of intelligence(IQ- An intelligence quotient, or IQ, is a score derived from one of several different standardized tests designed to assess intelligence. ), it is not the same . But you can’t ignore this saying it is a disability. We all work according our level of intelligence and capacity of the brain. Some have a good memory and others do not have. Again, to understand laws(good & bad) and follow You need to have a good analytical brain and a memory to keep all the rules. So, if we were given those two by your God we will not forget rules or make the wrong judgement

Yama raju has nothing to do with the concept of a creator.







 

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How can you say that we cannot compare robots with Humans. It is a pity you can’t understand this. According to you, your God made man. We all know that man made robots. When there’s a problem with a robot we blame the scientist who designed it. When there’s a problem in a human being you blame the particular human being and not the scientist who designed him. Not only for robots, for anything the producer/manufacturer/designer/inventor is responsible for the quality of the product.

Just assume we design a robot with advance capabilities like humans and program them to take decisions depending on the situation. So, the way they analyze the situation should be programmed properly. If they take the wrong decision we can only blame ourselves.

Anyway, in the future humans will create robots to function
like us.


Source: http://future.wikia.com/wiki/Robotics

As for disabilities, it’s pity you don’t understand this. Are you telling me that all those who are not intelligent are disabled and all those who do not have a disability have the same level of intelligence?:confused: Well there’re special cases. I know that. But if you take the level of intelligence(IQ- An intelligence quotient, or IQ, is a score derived from one of several different standardized tests designed to assess intelligence. ), it is not the same . But you can’t ignore this saying it is a disability. We all work according our level of intelligence and capacity of the brain. Some have a good memory and others do not have. Again, to understand laws(good & bad) and follow You need to have a good analytical brain and a memory to keep all the rules. So, if we were given those two by your God we will not forget rules or make the wrong judgement

Yama raju has nothing to do with the concept of a creator.








We all know that man made robots.
where is the god damn free-will brother

No human can make robots with free-will they can give AI but not FW why don't you understand the difference?

OK it's time to end this conversation I do not want to force you to b'live in his words


Jesus said : Remember the words I spoke to you: 'No servant is greater than his master.' If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also. - John 15:20

Goodbye my friend , I hope one day you will understand the truth, then the truth set you free

otherwise we'll meet in the judgement Day (but then it's too late to accuse GOD for your own sins "you b'live u r just a robots you can know it for sure in that day too")

Anyway I will pray for you brother :love:
 

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How can you say that we cannot compare robots with Humans. It is a pity you can’t understand this. According to you, your God made man. We all know that man made robots. When there’s a problem with a robot we blame the scientist who designed it. When there’s a problem in a human being you blame the particular human being and not the scientist who designed him. Not only for robots, for anything the producer/manufacturer/designer/inventor is responsible for the quality of the product.

Just assume we design a robot with advance capabilities like humans and program them to take decisions depending on the situation. So, the way they analyze the situation should be programmed properly. If they take the wrong decision we can only blame ourselves.

Anyway, in the future humans will create robots to function
like us.


Source: http://future.wikia.com/wiki/Robotics

As for disabilities, it’s pity you don’t understand this. Are you telling me that all those who are not intelligent are disabled Not at all do not misinterpret my words brother I really don't like it

Disable for me = Differently able :baffled:

and all those who do not have a disability have the same level of intelligence?

I said you dont need to know all those big theories to know GOD's love you got me wrong gain dear ;)



:confused: Well there’re special cases. I know that. But if you take the level of intelligence(IQ- An intelligence quotient, or IQ, is a score derived from one of several different standardized tests designed to assess intelligence. ), it is not the same . But you can’t ignore this saying it is a disability. We all work according our level of intelligence and capacity of the brain. Some have a good memory and others do not have. Again, to understand laws(good & bad) and follow You need to have a good analytical brain and a memory to keep all the rules.

Disgreed again all you have to listen to your heart brother that's is the natural RED signal when you do something wrong you dont have to be a lawyer to be a good law abiding citizen


So, if we were given those two by your God we will not forget rules or make the wrong judgement

God has given you a good heart sometime you can know many things by using your conscience , if you have that special skills use for the sake of others



Yama raju has nothing to do with the concept of a creator
. (Yeah but it is also a funny story :lol:

I had to answer to this because you got me damn wrong man :yes:
 

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No human can make robots with free-will
A human being has a free will. But he’s also having a highly developed brain. Therefore he’s intelligent to understand his heart as well as good and bad. He can use this intelligence to solve problems and be true to his heart. Without
intelligence he can’t understand the heart and live accordingly. But the level of intelligence is not the same in individuals without any disability. So, can you blame someone lacking intelligence for doing wrong?

As for machines,

Free will does not require a very complex system. Young children and rather simple computer systems can represent internally ``I can, but I won't'' and behave accordingly.
1. Human level AI requires the ability of the agent to reason about its past, present, future and hypothetical choices.
2. What an agent can do is determined by its environment rather than by its internal structure.
3. Having choices is usefully distinguished from the higher capability of knowing about them.
4. What people can do and know about what they can do is similar to what robots can do and know.
http://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc/freewill/freewill.html
As for Jesus, I am not speaking against him. I respect him for his compassion and feel really bad about the suffering he underwent towards the end. It’s a pity that no one was there to save him. But simply because I care and respect , I can’t say yes to all what is there in the Bible. It was not written by Jesus or his God. The teachings were passed to the next generation by helpless ones who could not or did not do anything to save Jesus.

Anyway, even Jesus found it difficult to believe the reality.


By the way, I am not speaking against your God. Although it was written in the Bible what your God is expecting, there’s no proof to prove that God himself said those things.

As for obeying teachings, as Buddhists, we enjoy freedom. Lord Buddha had preached that we should check even the teachings of the Buddha before accepting them blindly.





judgement Day,

So, you all are waiting for this wonderful day to enjoy results of
your good deeds? Anyway, that day didn’t come for 2000 years. Those who were there 2000 years ago must be still waiting in the grave yard for this wonderful day


Disable for me = Differently able
So, you have a new y2k dictionary? According to oxford, disable means

(of a disease, injury, or accident) limit (someone) in their movements, senses, or activities:
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/disable

I said you dont need to know all those big theories to know GOD's love you got me wrong
Big or not where’s the answer for the theory ? How come that people without any disability have different levels of intelligence? Please
Don’t talk about your God’s love and skip the question. What is the reason for different IQ’s ?


Disgreed again all you have to listen to your heart brother that's is the natural RED signal when you do something wrong you dont have to be a lawyer to be a good law abiding citizen


So, you do not agree that we should the brain’s analytical side to analyze
problems. Maybe you are not using that. That is why you keep talking
about love and heart when I ask about intelligence. A human being
is intelligent and has a developed brain. That is the difference between a human and an animal


Humans (known taxonomically as Homo sapiens,[3][4]Latin for "wise man" or "knowing man") Humans have a highly developed brain and are capable of abstract reasoning, language, introspection, andproblem solving.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human

I am talking about this brain and level of intelligence. Heart is all about feelings; guilt, fear, love & etc. A human being is intelligent to understand the feelings arising in the heart and be true to the heart (according to their conscience). He is also intelligent to understand a problem using the reasoning part of the brain . But the level of intelligence is not the same. It is different from one individual to another. I am asking for the reason for that. Some are very intelligent. They can understand their feelings . They do good things and live their life true to their heart. Some find it difficult to understand feelings or good from bad . It is the level of intelligence (the ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills)
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/intelligence


God has given you a good heart sometime you can know many things by using your conscience , if you have that special skills use for the sake of others

One should be intelligent to understand the heart. But with different IQ’s how do you expect everyone to understand their hearts equally?

You kept on ignoring the following talking about love and heart.

We all work according our level of intelligence and capacity of the brain. Some have a good memory and others do not have. Again, to understand laws(good & bad) and follow You need to have a good analytical brain and a memory to keep all the rules

I agree with one thing. We should listen to the heart and be true to the heart. But to understand that heart and to be true to your heart you need intelligence. But the level of intelligence is not the same in individuals without any disability. So, can you blame someone lacking intelligence for not understanding the heart and doing wrong?

Anyway, I also don’t like to drag this conversation. Good bye friend/ brother and hope you will find the real truth to come out of suffering. Thanks for using a civilized language till the end. See, we do appreciate the good



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