lets give Muslims a taste of their own medicine

[jeffli]

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[diamonddrago]

Do you really think after invading country they just gonna go house to house and conduct sermons until the whole country turn into Islam ?



I mean no disrespect
But Muhammad did the same didnt he ? And all the people surrounded by him were stupid enough to believe him.

It's not like Al Quran faxed from the heaven by god himself right ?

You say whats happening in Middle East is all about land. Bro whatever the Muslims done and doing is about religion. It always has
It's hard to forget about the guy who you pray 5 times per day now isn't it ?

Forget the middle east. How many incidents had been reported in the past from Indonesia ?

And there were some situation caused by Islamic extremists I repeat Islamic extremist in Thailand.

They look like fly in the milk in that peaceful Buddhist country
And in Bangladesh Buddhist girls has been raped and killed
same for Buddhist monks

Are you saying that all of them are coincident ?
I already know your answer bro

You'd say Al-Quran has been severely misinterpreted and misunderstood.

And I'd say
Your almighty god can't even convey his message to the people without eliminating the possibility of confusion.
Your own freaking race has been divided into two (Shia Sunni ) and slitting each other's throat. What a miserable failure it is

And you'd say
Its all a test.
BOOM !!!
End of the discussion.

You can justify every action by claiming its just a test.

My point is other religions have done far superior job guiding people into peace and prosperity than Islam. Despite the fact if their beliefs truly exist or not.

Where Islam has severely failed. Even if Allah truly existed and he meant good.

My question is are you willing to afford the damage caused, until people understand the true Islam for themselves or just accept the fact that other religions doing a great job already and move on ?

Only difference is the God.

I accept even Buddhist leaders and all other religious leaders have committed crimes. But do know, Islamic leaders starting from Muhammad himself, surpass all others.


Because the statistics say so. more than 80% terrorist groups put their ass down and pray Allah 5 times per day.

Do you think that no one loves Islam other than Muslims, is a major mistake done by whole world and just Islamic people were right about it ?

Do you think that greater majority of the world hates Islam just by mistake ? And only the Muslim proportion is right all along ?

Thats where you wrong . You can see that some other dont even wanna have a decent argue and talk it through but publishing lame posters.

Don't waste your time on them and get Disappoint

The reason Im talking to you is you seem less damaged by the Islam

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Not many even bother to answer Siraj's posts

This is well and truly a complex issue...why else do you think the middle east wars turn into such complex unsolved things....

Islam is very clear on where it stands when it comes to war etc....you cannot understand what i know just by reading a few biased (for an against) anecdotes from the Quran here and there.....

The basis of all this is Palestine....and Israel conflict....and the people willing to try and profit from this....the Taliban and other organization are "lending" support to Hezbollah to get rid of Israel from Palestine....

You very well might know exactly how Israel treats Palestinians so should be easy for you to understand as to why these terrorists are fighting them....

why america got into this is very obvious when i see the amount of cover up and support they give Israel.... Hezbollah only reacts to Israel....the Taliban took up the mantel of going after the "great satan the west" ....hence 9/11...and the subsequent diversion of attention by USA....

do you think the american citizens would stand by knowing the very reason 9/11 happened is because of America's need to help Israel...and why does america need to support Israel...because of the Jewish vote.....it is not secret most media in america is run by jews there....who very much support the war effort...not to mention the links between the CIA and Mossad (israeli intelligence/assassins).....

I guarantee that if Israel is brought to heel...all this stops.....yes Taliban does use religion...how else can they get support for their war?....why would some innocent Muslim farmer in South Africa care about what happens to Palestinians?....it has to be linked with religion....

take my world for it now...it will make sense....but how else can a person from a peaceful religion be encouraged to turn themselves into suicide bombers etc?...by twisting that very religion to their needs....by taking words out of context and convincing the simple masses.....problem is it also helps anti-Islamist propaganda machines to turn Islam into an object of hate....WHICH it definitely IS NOT....this comes from a muslim of 26 years....

 

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[Zeus]

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take my world for it now...it will make sense....but how else can a person from a peaceful religion be encouraged to turn themselves into suicide bombers etc?...by twisting that very religion to their needs....by taking words out of context and convincing the simple masses.....problem is it also helps anti-Islamist propaganda machines to turn Islam into an object of hate....WHICH it definitely IS NOT....this comes from a muslim of 26 years....

Whoever becomes martyr is very well educated on Quran. Which means the all of it
And yet he decided to sacrifice himself for a lofty course. So your point regarding twisted words collapse.

Same thing happened in Sri Lanka. Part of the country has been held by a terrorist group which had been nursed by India. And they kept continued to terrorize the other parts of the country including metropolis itself.

Have you seen the same behavior/rage or blood thirst on Sri Lankans, that you can see from the Palestinians?

Retaliation is natural human nature. I dont blame it
.And those Muslims sought some means to justify their future action through their religion in order to console themselves and deal with the after consequences.
And guess what ? They success all the time.

I dont read some biased versus bro and I confess I have very limited knowledge in Quran

I just read the world.
numbers/statistics.

Numbers and information/Data/Statistic are highly available throught many media to convince anyone in their right mind, that Islam is inclined towards terrorism more than other religions.

If you say it was misinterpreted or twisted. Then I'd say whoever did it may had not to try hard.

If someone tried to do the same with Buddhism then it would be next to impossible work. Thats why it never happened upto now

And I already told you forget the Middle East and take the rest. My points still stand.

 

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[diamonddrago]

Whoever becomes martyr is very well educated on Quran. Which means the all of it
And yet he decided to sacrifice himself for a lofty course. So your point regarding twisted words collapse.

Same thing happened in Sri Lanka. Part of the country has been held by a terrorist group which had been nursed by India. And they kept continued to terrorize the other parts of the country including metropolis itself.

Have you seen the same behavior/rage or blood thirst on Sri Lankans, that you can see from the Palestinians?

Retaliation is natural human nature. I dont blame it
.And those Muslims sought some means to justify their future action through their religion in order to console themselves and deal with the after consequences.
And guess what ? They success all the time.

I dont read some biased versus bro and I confess I have very limited knowledge in Quran

I just read the world.
numbers/statistics.

Numbers and information/Data/Statistic are highly available throught many media to convince anyone in their right mind, that Islam is inclined towards terrorism more than other religions.

If you say it was misinterpreted or twisted. Then I'd say whoever did it may had not to try hard.

If someone tried to do the same with Buddhism then it would be next to impossible work. Thats why it never happened upto now

And I already told you forget the Middle East and take the rest. My points still stand.

Nope Zeus.....the people who actually become suicide bombers etc are not well versed in Islam...because one of the key points/sins of Islam is to not to take your own life....much less the lives of others....

suicide is considered a one way ticket to the deepest hell....

"O you who believe, do not consume each others' properties illicitly - only mutually acceptable transactions are permitted. You shall not kill yourselves. GOD is Merciful towards you" (Glorious Quran 4:29)

"Anyone who commits these transgressions, maliciously and deliberately, we will condemn him to Hell. This is easy for GOD to do." (Glorious Quran 4:30)

the fact is Islam is made up of two factors...the Quran...and the practical activities of the prophet called the Hadiths....

Just as how most Christians or people have abandoned the bible etc....so have most muslims abandoned the Quran....for one the arabic language in it cannot be understood by all...and most people don't want to bother with translations....this is due to human laziness...

so people go to the mosques and listen to radical imams who give their own twisted lies and versions of Hadiths....(ps Hadiths are also catalogued and available as a book but can be changed...and many false hadiths are around)

it is those words that these poor fools are brainwashed with.....

and no Sri Lankans lived under a peaceful region...and our civil war is quite different than say if some foreign nation is dumped on our nation....and who insist no trying to tell you how you run your lives...and impose their laws onto you....

Arabs are all about honor and pride...so of course Israeli arrogance was a slap to their face...not to mention that Jerusalem is also a holy place for muslims and Israel laid claim to it illegally....

and yes the violence in the rest of the world is linked with the Taliban...as their actions only inflamed all the imaginary issues that grievances of these other retards....

on the same coin I ask you to look at Muslims in other more "modern Islamic" countries...do you see Muslims in sri lanka behave the same way?....or in Malaysia...Qatar?....Egypt?....Turkey?....

where there is ignorance there too is violence and hate.....

And lets not forget the Taliban is an american creation.....

and please don't get mad at this.....but under the assumption that Islam is the real religion of God (if he was real) wouldn't you expect the devil (if he was real) to work hardest to discredit the actual truth....why do you think Islam always stands out in someway?....why do Buddhists...Christians or Hindus never seem to undergo the same kinds of events that shake a believers convictions?....it sure does for me...but i go back to the Quran every time...and as if by miracle (IMO) the answers just are there....you may say its because it is evil and i am being mislead.....but not like this....not after what i have seen..read and experienced.....

I am not attempting to draw judgment or say Islam is the religion of God....but there it is....

 

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on the same coin I ask you to look at Muslims in other more "modern Islamic" countries...do you see Muslims in sri lanka behave the same way?....or in Malaysia...Qatar?....Egypt?....Turkey?....

And I ask you. Is there single Buddhist country that went insane from blood thirst ? The reason Malaysia Quatar and so other country is on control because either those people arent much religious or they were seduced by the commercialized western lavish culture.

and please don't get mad at this....

Im here to discuss and resolve the matter. As long as you have valid points, theres no reason for me to go mad.
Not after I see how patiently you are dealing with others

.but under the assumption that Islam is the real religion of God (if he was real) wouldn't you expect the devil (if he was real) to work hardest to discredit the actual truth....why do you think Islam always stands out in someway?....why do Buddhists...Christians or Hindus never seem to undergo the same kinds of events that shake a believers convictions?....it sure does for me...but i go back to the Quran every time...and as if by miracle (IMO) the answers just are there....you may say its because it is evil and i am being mislead.....but not like this....not after what i have seen..read and experienced.....

I am not attempting to draw judgment or say Islam is the religion of God....but there it is....

I see your point

and let me ask one question

What would Allah prefer ? That people kneel down towards and worshiping him or committed to preserve goodness ?

Given there's only 2 groups in this world that are

One being worshipingfor the better part of the day and go blasting and beheading others

And another infidels that doesn't give a crap of Allah but do good deeds

 

[diamonddrago]

And I ask you. Is there single Buddhist country that went insane from blood thirst ? The reason Malaysia Quatar and so other country is on control because either those people arent much religious or they were seduced by the commercialized western lavish culture.




Im here to discuss and resolve the matter. As long as you have valid points, theres no reason for me to go mad.
Not after I see how patiently you are dealing with others



I see your point

and let me ask one question

What would Allah prefer ? That people kneel down towards and worshiping him or committed to preserve goodness ?

Given there's only 2 groups in this world that are

One being worshipingfor the better part of the day and go blasting and beheading others

And another infidels that doesn't give a crap of Allah but do good deeds

Islam is about preservation of what is good.....any relgion that believs in one God...and does good is promised a place in hevean....

"Surely, those who believe, those who are the Jews and the Sabians and the Christians – whosoever believed in Allah and the Last Day, and worked righteousness, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve."
[al-Maa’idah 5:69]

As i keep saying...do not let the uneducated retards who call themselves Muslims and act like animals distort a peaceful.... lenient religion & a humble happy way of life....

behind every animal like Gaddafi...Saddam and Taliban-ish regimes....there is nation of Muslims who want to correct these wrong doings....problem is we are outnumbered by the misguided fanatics...

 

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[Zeus]

Islam is about preservation of what is good.....any relgion that believs in one God...and does good is promised a place in hevean....

"Surely, those who believe, those who are the Jews and the Sabians and the Christians – whosoever believed in Allah and the Last Day, and worked righteousness, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve."
[al-Maa’idah 5:69]

As i keep saying...do not let the uneducated retards who call themselves Muslims and act like animals distort a peaceful.... lenient religion & a humble happy way of life....

behind every animal like Gaddafi...Saddam and Taliban-ish regimes....there is nation of Muslims who want to correct these wrong doings....problem is we are outnumbered by the misguided fanatics...

I get you machan
But still its not the answer for my question

BTW after you answer my question. Tell me is Gaddafi that bad ?
I hear many good things of him ne

 

[cuteoz]

We don't have a problem of whatever a muslim or another man thinks as far as they don't put their hands on others. People can belong to any religion and we don't care for it. Indochinese and Malaysian people won't be treated with the savage muslim laws outside their country just because they are muslims. We are talking here is only about countries with savage laws. Even in my title I said 'own medicine' that means if some country doesn't have a savage law system we don't suggest to those locals to be treated with savage muslim laws off their country just because they are muslims.Our point is if some people are living in a country under a system of laws legalized by that country's government, they should be treated with the same laws outside the country also. Muslims in those countries don't have to stand against it because it is the same laws that they are currently practicing inside their country, we are demanding to bring into action for the practice of them also in other countries. So why they should stand against it? If it is good for them to practice inside their country why it is bad to practice out side of their country too?
If they don't want to be treated with the same laws they are practicing they should stop it first inside their countries. But they don't denounce or stand up against their laws or government that means they accept the law system. So those muslims should be treated with same laws outside their countries too otherwise it is a terrible injustice to people living other countries who are subjected to savage punishments by muslim countries.

If laws were that simple to change then it would be utter dreadful to the ones involved. every country has there own set of laws and regulations and it doesnt matter wether its islamic or a christian country. and the laws couldnt and shouldnt be practised because of the diversity of people. for instance lets take an example of simplistic law attributes, the United states government allotes people to come into the United states visa free, Now when we see visa free then we would consider them to be a high economic and politically stable country, but no.. they look into the laws which are less commited and less moralised.. thats why once argentina was in the list of the waiver program.. so laws of a certain country doesnt matter under religious consent. it matters most is if it is only properly associated wether he or she is a muslim or not..

 

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[diamonddrago]

I get you machan
But still its not the answer for my question

BTW after you answer my question. Tell me is Gaddafi that bad ?
I hear many good things of him ne

yeah he gave to charity etc...but every Muslims is supposed to do that atleast once a year....doesn't make him a good man....

what kind of man brings in beautiful women from around the world...trains them in martial arts....then keeps them around as body guards.....and supposedly has sex with at least one per night?.....