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Then worship einstien , newten , shekspear and all these thinkers :P

Also u didn't reply my question , how u define god ?


Good friend, all component things are impermanent. All the above names relate to something impermanent. Although Lord Buddha had preached about physical matter the base in Buddhism is something that applies only to the supra mundane wisdom. Study of physical matter and related discoveries or even compositions apply only to mundane wisdom. It takes more than this to develop the supra mundane wisdom. From that only one can perceive Nibbana which is the highest bliss and complete eradication of suffering. It is far above a small discovery for a small problem. But it doesn't mean that we do not respect the above. We do respect their knowledge. But their discoveries don't stand a chance when you compare with discoveries of Lord Buddha. The way to eradicate suffering completely is more important than a small discovery or a composition to solve one or two problems. :)
 

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By the way, we do not worship Lord Buddha because of a discovery related to a temporary physical problem. We worship because of the great qualities of the Blessed One,


"iti pi so bhagava araham sammasambuddho
vijjacharana sampanno sugato lokavidu anuttaro
purisa dhamma sarati satta deva manussanam
buddho bhagava ti".


I) The quality of araham means that he has completely destroyed all greed, aversion and ignorance. The Buddha is one who has realised the four noble truths, nibbana and has come to the end of all suffering. The quality of arahantship is not exclusive to a sammasambuddha. It is also common to the Silent Buddha and all Arahants.



II) However, the quality of sammasambuddha ,is exclusive to a sammasambuddha. The sammasambuddha is one who acquires the knowledge of the four noble truths without the assistance of anyone else, thereafter teaches others to realise the four noble truths.



(III) 'Vijja charana sam panno' 'Vijja' means science or knowledge. 'charana' means conduct. 'Sampanno' means endowed with. So it means endowed with knowledge and conduct. Under this word vijja we can consider some knowledges he was endowed with, which are not exclusive to him.


IV) The quality of sugatha means beauty excellent, pleasant. And what is it that is beautiful, excellent and pleasing, it is this noble eightfold path. Each and every step of this noble eightfold path, is beautiful, pleasant, excellent. He was also endowed with a beautiful body which radiated a multi coloured aura.


V) Lokavidu means the seer of the world. He sees everything as it really is, with regard to this world. He sees all the conditions that bring about a situation, that bring about a dhamma, the root causes, the proximate causes, and the results that can come, that can flow from that situation. All that is his knowledge or his ability to see the world as it really is.



VI) 'Anutharo Purisa Dhamma Sarati' means he was an incomparable tamer of the tameable.



(VII) 'Satta deva manussanam' means, he is the teacher to gods and humans. The word deva refers to both the gods and brahmas. And in that field he was incomparable. He was the supreme teacher and a vast number of gods, brahmas and human beings received his teachings, his advice, his guidance and they liberated themselves from this mass of suffering as a result of that. That is his teaching quality.


(VIII) 'Bhuddho' means the one who has fully realised the four noble truths, fully realised nibbana by one's own effort without any assistance from another. That is a quality common not only to a Sammasambuddha, but also to those who are called the silent buddhas. The difference between a Sammasambuddha and a Silent Buddha is that the Silent Buddhas do not teach.



(IX) And finally his quality of 'bhagava' means he stands exalted. He is exalted beyond comparison. He is exalted because of his immeasurable merits, because of his ten perfections. No other being's perfections can be compared with that of a Sammasambuddha, As a result of the perfection of dana or gifting, millions of folks pay homage to him, make offerings, even after 2500 years. That is the result of his quality called bhagava.


http://www.beyondthenet.net/buddha/qualities.html


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Indeed the Exalted One is thus: The accomplished destroyer of defilements, a Buddha perfected by himself, complete in clear knowledge and compassionate conduct, supremely good in presence and in destiny, the Knower of the worlds, incomparable Master of men to be tamed, the Teacher of celestials and men, the Awakened and Awakener, and the Lord by skill-in-means apportioning Dhamma
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/authors/khantipalo/wheel206.html#formula
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u didn't reply my question , how u define god


I do not have my own definition for god. But we Buddhists do not believe in a creator. We believe in cause and effect. As for other gods we do believe they exist. Some Buddhists seek their help for physical problems. It is like going to a doctor for a disease. But most of these gods came to Lord Buddha for their problems. If you ask from gods they will tell you the value of Buddhism. Lord Buddha is considered as the teacher of gods and humans. :)


'Satta deva manussanam' means, he is the teacher to gods and humans. The word deva refers to both the gods and brahmas. And in that field he was incomparable. He was the supreme teacher and a vast number of gods, brahmas and human beings received his teachings, his advice, his guidance and they liberated themselves from this mass of suffering as a result of that. That is his teaching quality.
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The base in Buddhism is the four noble truths.


  1. The Reality of Suffering--dukkha
  2. The Cause of Suffering--samudaya
  3. The Cessation of Suffering--nirodha
  4. The Path to the Cessation of Suffering--magga
http://dharma.ncf.ca/introduction/4-Noble-Truths.html
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Given below is a brief description about the first truth.

The Reality of Suffering--dukkha

The Pali word dukkha, in ordinary usage means 'suffering', 'pain', 'sorrow' or 'misery'. But in the context of the First Noble Truth, dukkha also means 'imperfection', 'impermanence', 'emptiness', 'insubstantiality'. There are three kinds of suffering:
  • Ordinary Suffering--dukkha-dukkha
  • Suffering produced by Change--virapinama-dukkha
  • Suffering as Conditioned States--samkara-dukkha
Ordinary Suffering--dukkha-dukkha

There are all kinds of suffering in life: birth, old age, sickness, death, association with unpleasant persons and conditions, separation from beloved ones and pleasant conditions, not getting what one desires, grief, lamentation, distress--all forms of physical and mental suffering. Suffering produced by Change--virapinama-dukkha

Pleasant and happy feelings or conditions in life are not permanent. Sooner or later they change. When they change they may produce pain, suffering, unhappiness or dissappointment. This vicissitude is considered viparimana-dukkha. Suffering as Conditioned States--samkara-dukkha

An 'individual', an 'I' or a 'self' is a combination of ever-changing mental and physical forces which can be divided into five groups or 'aggregates' pancakkhandha. Suffering as conditioned states is produced by attachment to these five aggregates:
  • Matter--rupakkhandha
  • Sensations--vedanakkhandha
  • Perceptions--sannakkhandha
  • Mental Formations--sankharakkhandha
  • Consciousness--vinnanakkhandha
http://dharma.ncf.ca/introduction/truths/NobleTruth-1.html
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/study/truths.html


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By the way, next time you visit a new forum do visit the section to introduce yourself first. There you may find plenty of seniors waiting to greet you. But they come to the religious section to discuss religion. You may feel offended if they don't greet you. It is like visiting a house. If you enter a room from a side door without using the entrance it is not possible to expect the householders to greet you. :)
 

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You may find the following posts useful. :)

Buddhism is the path to real happiness and freedom. We can wear anything decent, eat delicious meals and live in a palace while following the path preached by the Lord Buddha. No one will stop us because there’re no such rules about the dress code, food or housing in Buddhism except for nuns/monks. We enjoy so much of freedom :cool:.

If we want to get rid of craving(attachments) in order to get rid of suffering( like old age, sickness, death, association with unpleasant persons and conditions, separation from beloved ones and pleasant conditions, not getting what one desires, grief, lamentation) quickly we can join the order as a nun/monk and give up luxuries willingly :).

We have this strong attachment towards ourselves and what we possess. When changes take place the way we do not like we suffer. If you follow the path preached by the Lord Buddha you get to develop the mind, so that you can use it like a microscope to see the reality of mind and matter. This will lead to the eradication of craving


Buddhists do not practice blind rituals as mentioned by others.:no:.
The path to eradicate craving consists of three categories –

1. Sila
2. Samadhi
3. Panna

In sila we refrain from wrong conduct. Lay Buddhists observe five precepts (refraining from - killing, stealing, sexual misconduct, lying, ingesting intoxicants) whereas nuns/monks observe a higher sila to quicken the process(it is not compulsory to become a nun/monk to eradicate craving).

Samadhi is to develop concentration through mindfulness

In Panna (wisdom) Knowledge gained through learning and comprehending dhamma (teachings of the Lord Buddha regarding the true nature of mind and matter)






In Buddhism there’s no rule stating that you should follow the above path or punish the ones who are breaking it. We follow the path willingly to realize four noble truths. That kind of freedom we enjoy :cool:.



I take this opportunity to pay homage to the Noble Triple Gem (Lord Buddha, Dhamma, and Sanga). Again, there’s no such rule that I should do this. But I do this out of devotion and gratitude :).


the Law of Kamma in Buddhism

Why some have long lives, while others have short lives?

Some beings like to kill other beings and get in the habit of killing. After death, these people are reborn in four lower, woeful states - animal world, ghost world, demon world, and hell. But if they are reborn as human beings, their lives are short. Those who do not kill beings, who have com-passion for them, may be reborn in the deva (celestial being) world. If they are reborn as human beings, they have long lives.


Why some people are sickly and prone to disease, while others are healthy?


Some people cause injury to other beings; they like to inflict injury on others. On account of that, they are reborn in four woeful states. But if they are reborn as human beings, they are sickly and prone to disease. Those who do not cause injury to others are reborn as devas, or if they are reborn as human beings, they are endowed with good health.


Why some are ugly, while others are beautiful?


Some people become angry very easily and owing to this anger, they are reborn in four woeful states. But if they are reborn as human beings, they are ugly. (Anger makes you look ugly so when you are angry look at yourself in the mirror and see how beautiful or ugly you are). But some people have no anger, do not become angry easily and have thoughts of loving kindness, or metta, towards people. These people are reborn as devas, or if they are reborn as human beings, they are beautiful. So if you want to be beautiful, at least in the next life, check your anger - don't get angry!


Why some have few friends, while others have many?


Some people are jealous, and on account of that jealousy they are reborn in the four woeful states. But if they are reborn as human beings, they have few or no friends. Those who are not jealous are reborn as devas, or if they are reborn as human beings, they have many good friends. We can say, according to the law of kamma, that those who cannot have friends were jealous in a past life.


Why are some people rich, while others are poor?


Some people are stingy; they do not want to give anything. By being stingy, by not being generous, they may be reborn in four woeful states. But if they are reborn as human beings, they are poor. Those who are giving and generous become rich people. So if you want to become rich, give!


Why some people are born into good circumstances, while others are born into unfortunate circumstances?


Some people are very proud, look down on other people, and have little respect for others. On account of this false pride, such people are reborn in four woeful states, but if they are reborn as human beings, they are born into unfortunate circumstances. Those who have no false pride, who have humility, are reborn as devas, unless they are reborn as human beings, in which case they are born in favourable circumstances.


Why are some people dull-witted, while others are intelligent?


Some people have no desire for knowledge, no desire to ask questions, no desire to know about the nature of things. With no knowledge of right conduct, these unknowing people perform wrong actions and thus may be reborn in four woeful states. If they are reborn as human beings, they are dull-witted. Those who desireknowledge, who ask questions about the nature of the things, are reborn in the deva world. But if they are reborn as human beings, they are intelligent

http://web.archive.org/web/20080725042340/http://www.mahindarama.com/e-library/volition1.html


Kamma is not the only order in Buddhism. :)

Niyama Dharma

There are five orders or processes (niyama) which operate in the physical and mental realms.They are:


Utu Niyama - physical inorganic order, e.g. seasonal phenomena of winds and rains. The unerring order of seasons, characteristic seasonal changes and events, causes of winds and rains, nature of heat, etc., all belong to this group.


Bija Niyama - order of germs and seeds (physical organic order), e.g. rice produced from rice-seed, sugary taste from sugar-cane or honey, peculiar characteristics of certain fruits, etc. The scientific theory of cells and genes and the physical similarity of twins may be ascribed to this order.


Kamma Niyama - order of act and result, e.g., desirable and undesirable acts produce corresponding good and bad results. As surely as water seeks its own level so does Karma, given opportunity, produce its inevitable result, not in the form of a reward or punishment but as an innate sequence. This sequence of deed and effect is as natural and necessary as the way of the sun and the moon.


Dhamma Niyama - order of the norm, e.g., the natural phenomena occurring at the advent of a Bodhisattva in his last birth. Gravitation and other similar laws of nature. The natural reason for being good and so forth, may be included in this group.


Citta Niyama - order or mind or psychic law, e.g., processes of consciousness, arising and perishing of consciousness, constituents of consciousness, power of mind, etc., including telepathy, telaesthesia, retro-cognition, premonition, clairvoyance, clairaudience, thought-reading and such other psychic phenomena which are inexplicable to modern science.
http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1505889
 
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Aaaah! A newbieeeeee


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I hope I am not too late to greet you good friend.


As-salām 'alaykum


Hello


Bonjour


Namaste


Hallo



Idiot members no place for u in this thread .
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EEEEEEEEEk another conceited one


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P.S. The wise should never be proud of their intelligence. They should not insult less privileged ones. Why? Brain damage due to an accident or a disease is not impossible. This can make a person so lame that he/she can’t even recognize his/her own identity
 

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If u prefere this kind of talk plz don't panic that was my last caution for u , next time u won't be able to Stop my hard language :)


1.Why Allah created blind,dumb,deaf humans. They cant read and Understand your Kuran even.So what do they have to tell in the Judgement day. Will they get a favour there?

Firstly it's something only Allah knows it . But As i know If Allah take something from u he gaves u anthor thing ,If u are blind , i think u can hear ? or can't u ? if u r Dumb of deaf i think u can read can't u ??
you say all are equal?Dont you ever heard people who cant do anything of those.what about totally disabled s.Even their mind is not well to understand.So Allah has been unfair.

Next time u must be specific in ur questions u asked about blind , deaf and dumb :P . about Totaly disabled , mental sick or kids who dead before being adult. will be in heaven without any judgement :)

2.Why do you take medicine for diseases it is breaching of Allah's wish.Isn't it?.Because Allah gave you that disease because he wanted.

I cant see the point in this Question
Allah in Quran asks us to seek and he will help us . Who told u if i will recover from the disease or not ? May Allah want me to recover again and it was just to expert me .

Funny.So allah is the ultimate docter. Do not take your wife to hospital for delivery.Allah will take care of her?:lol:

Do u have problems in reading ? read my answer again before saying the joke and laughing about it :P

3.Before human evolved on earth , There where Dinosaurs and lots of prehistoric animals. So why Allah created those before man. What is the use of them in a place where no humans.

How did u know that there were not human besides dinosaurs ? All i know about dinaosaurs age it's just some estimations , Also before the human was the jinn and that's in quran . so Quran never tells us that human was the first Creature.

You may not know. But every fool knows that it took millions of years for man to come from the age of DInos. I feel allah may have tested his creation skills before his greatest creation which is man.
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And I said allah didn't tell us that human was the first creature and i said jinn was in Earth before human :P

Earth Exist before human and 3 religions believe in that ,
Judaism, christianty and Islam " the only 3 real religions from The only God ;;))"


4.I feel Allah could have created this world in a better way. For an example if Beef and what ever the halal foods are made to pick from the trees as fruits. It would have been so easy and there is no pain for those animals and no need to kill.

WOW , don't u think that the plant has life too ? lol i smell u r hindu

Dont you know the difference between animals and Plants. It is kiddies stuff.
Otherwise Allah could have rain your foods from the sky.

U said "
there is no pain for those animals and no need to kill."

And i'm saying again plants r the same with animals , plants r alive and they will panic when u kill it :P

Plz try to improve urself and ur language too .

Please post your answers in point form under the question number. Hope to see your answers quickly.
 

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Oh some guys refered bout Welcome board and some refere to newpie LOL u can ask ur friend silent killer if u think i'm new user to fourms ;) , Even i was owner , admin mod for alot of fourms before . but fourms now getting old since FB and twitter is more better :).

I've to read some long comment about buddahism and some more comments to be able to reply it .

Also plz if u have questions about islam feelfree to ask and if i'm able to answer i'll .ISA
And if possible No more comments "copy -paste "form it sucks , Even when i study i dun have to read all of this . If I ask specific question i need specific answer :)
 

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They have copy/pasted previous posts to help you understand and get a clear picture of the base in Buddhism. Why should they write again when the complete answer is already there just to copy/paste. If you don’t have time to read an answer why do you keep asking questions? This is hilarious. :no:

Without getting a clear picture of the base you will not be able to understand Buddhism. With a simple answer you can’t understand a deep philosophy. Some can but not all.




There are different types of questions,

Open-Ended Questions
Closed-Ended Questions
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BTW did buddah told u to worship him ?

OPS , then u dun believe in God as u said before ?


Then buddah is just like the teacher and u follow him ?

If u believe in that , then buddahism is just a way of thinking not religion


I can see that the first one replied to me couldn't prove that buddah is areligion .

Now his turn to ask me
As for greeting I am sorry I am not here to greet you. I can't say ‘hi’ without really meaning that. I came to this thread because I feel sorry about the Buddhist friends who have wasted their time trying to explain the most valuable philosophy for someone who is not grateful for their efforts to help him/her.


Special note for Buddhist friends visiting this thread,

You can’t fill a cup full of coffee with tea or milk. You may try with compassion. But he’s already full of his own opinions and speculations. There’s no room for a deep philosophy like Buddhism. That is why he’s telling you to say yes and no to everything. He didn't read any of your valuable answers. But he's still asking questions:eek:.
 
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Special note for Buddhist friends visiting this thread,

You can’t fill a cup full of coffee with tea or milk. You may try with compassion. But he’s already full of his own opinions and speculations. There’s no room for a deep philosophy like Buddhism. That is why he’s telling you to say yes and no to everything. He didn't read any of your valuable answers. But he's still asking questions:eek:.

Thanks. But we were hoping for some space for a drop of dhamma. Anyway, we have given the most valuable gift one can ever give. It is up to him to throw it away or use it to uplift his life. It is his choice. But we have accrued merits for our good deed. But unfortunately he has committed sins by comparing the supreme wisdom of the Blessed One with mundane wisdom. We feel sorry for him. :)

 

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Just one specific question

Who helped the humanity more

einstien or buddah ?

I need specific answers , "NO OFF TOPICS"

Get real child. We have provided answers for all your questions and remarks on Buddhism. It’s pity that you didn’t get to read those or couldn’t comprehend what you read. If we answer your next question again you will say that the answer is too much for you. Kindly read our answers and apply your ability to reason. See whether you can comprehend and provide us with a reasonable feedback we can accept. Till you do that we will not waste time answering your questions. I hope other members too will give him time to read the given answers before asking more questions :)


 

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@gaveshi , Hey do i even care if u say hi or not LOL ?

I complianed abut the -ve feedbacks and some insults .

To all if i need more info i can search everywhere Since i've internet connection i can get my answers , also u can get ur answers too Thumbs up

I'm asking short question to find reply quoting the full buddahism LOL
If u guys dunno how to debate then leave it .


But unfortunately he has committed sins by comparing the supreme wisdom of the Blessed One with mundane wisdom. We feel sorry for him. :)

WOW then what will happen for me if i commited some sins ?well i just goto hell ? :o
what will happen plz tell me since i'm afriad and worried:'(


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