aslamu alikoum , Hi all elakiri members

[bassamelgendy]

WOW I've to answer this all questions again Good

Also i want u i didn't visited the forign fourm by myself Silent killer invited me to come to this fourm.

I'm not here to spread islam since No benefit for me if u become Muslim , buddahist , hindu or athiest . Islam has about 1600 million followersin everyzone in this planet who care about someone like u LOL.

I read Quran many times , But someone like u never read Quran just Googled "Faults in Quran" and came to say all the crap LOL . I think it'll took from u some time to Read and understand Quran . So u prefere the easiest way

Now I'm replying ur questions

I won't Quote ur answers and reply to it , Since i've no time for this . "Now someone asks himself if he dun want to waste his time why he come again and again , " just to reply the questions , once the thread has no replies i won't come again since i've more thing todo better than debating with some morons > "

 

[bassamelgendy]

Oh what is the point of testing his own creations? Does he have a fear that there are errors in what he has created? Anyway human manufacturers do various things to test their products since there can be errors. That we can understand. But if the creator is not sure whether his own products are functioning properly there’s something wrong. Anyway, a deadly disease can completely destroy a human life. So he has given a test paper to kill the victim. Whatever the answer he’s giving will not help him to survive. If the victim has been a complete sinner we can understand that. But I have heard of very good ones falling as victims for deadly diseases when the bad ones get something lesser than that. It is so unfair
Oh i think i've to repeat my words again Allah Wants to Test ur believe in him and I also said The guy who suffer from disease and still patient And believer in allah , Allah will reward him for his patient. U get the point as I'm saying
Allah want to test the human body resistance against diseases


That is what you believe. You believe because it is there in the book. That is not a logical answer. Anyway if there’s any truth in it, after death also he will test you. For that also you have to fall sick again.

But in the other life in heaven exist no more pain and u want suffer from anything .
Exist more exams after the final exam ?



AAh. That is not true. Some people fall sick all the time. Others very rarely. Worse part is this, some good ones fall sick all the time and face untimely deaths when the bad ones enjoy good health.

Wow if u totaly believe in this then I said Allah testing the believers and Give more power to the bad ppl to say if they will be good or them power will make them Conceited.



So you are telling me that death itself is a test. Well that is very cruel. Some good ones were killed without any time to write a single answer for the test.

I replied it , u want to expand the point .



Again it is not fair. Those who pray him day and night fall victims when the ones who do not pray or care escape. So what is the point of praying????????

LOL u mean if an earthquake hit a city only the good ppl will die ?
All the ppl will die in any accident or any case . So if i die in earthquake it's the same of dying in my bed . Hope u can understand this .




Hey, I have to ask this again,
Are you telling me that learning swimming is better than praying???????????

I was just givving Example i dunno what the wrong with ur mindes ?

I meant by the example that if disaster happend no matter u r muslim , buddahist or atheist . So don't always say why only the good die .


Sorry I want a simple answer here. Your answers there really confuse me. It’s a complete mess. You should thank gayatra for reading those. It’s difficult to identify the answers from the questions there.

I said if Allah take something from u he gives u anthor thing , If u search u'll see that this blind guy can hear better than u , or can feel by touch more than u and it'll be fair enough in the other life

But I don’t understand. Why is he creating people with lesser intelligence and later punish them for making mistakes. It is not fair to expect them to perform like others.

Since u can choose bet the good things and bad things then u have mind and u must be have judgement for ur deeds .


I will make it short,

Why did he create other planets without life? What is he testing there?
I dunno if the whole planets don't have life or have , either u dunno , Why he created the sun if no life there ?

Maybe from some time before knowing the benefit of moon someppl would ask why he created the moon , Now we know the answer


So he is playing a game??????
Make us suffer for him to enjoy?

LOL i gave example by agame why u ppl can't understand what ppl refering to? short mindes?



Go learn the quran first,

This is just a simple answer



No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

LOL i told u before u have no knowledge in Quran the surah was about War bet muslims and kafirs in the first times of islam.

Kafirs were the guys who started to fight against muslims , muslims were scared from the kafirs numbers and weapons so Allah sent this Aiyah :) plz go learn before talk .






Oh poor thing. That also you do not know. This war is a result of Muslims raping a Buddhist girl. Anyway both parties are killing each other and you are blaming only one party. That’s so unfair.


[URL]http://twocircles.net/2012jul22/rapemurder_buddhist_girl_muslims_led_riots_myanmar_ambassador.html

Stop lying whole world knowing what happend there , u killed alot of muslims rapped alot of women and u created the story , Good thing for u but u'll suffer in oneday

Good, keep thinking


By the way, I simply cannot agree with any of your answers and I don’t see any point in asking from you. It’s better if you read the quran before you visit a foreign forum to teach Islam. Luckily you came to teach Buddhists who practice metta to all. I think they have being too nice here. Maybe most of them are sleeping by the time you come here. But if you go to another foreign forum they will hammer you if you start teaching Islam from the very first thread without reading the full book. Keep in mind that it is not good to buy everything in the book. Apply some logic and see whether the facts make sense. Otherwise you can only say “Allah’s test” for all the questions asked by non believers. They will laugh at you and your religion. By the way, becareful with the ones who praise you lavishly without any reasoning. They may send you on a wild goose chase for their selfish motives. I have to go now. I will not be visiting this thread again to argue since you don’t know everything in quran. So no need to answer or make comments. I will give you time to read the book. Good bye

Thnx for the big advice but u should keep it for urself
I also i didn't came here to teach islam , I'm not scholar , I just said Hi ans Aslamu alikom to see some crappy comments

Goodbye , hope not to see u again in my thread as u promised to not waste more time

 

[bassamelgendy]

24 h to leave the fourm

Count down starts

 

[Sataninhell]

24 h to leave the fourm

Count down starts

finally u showed ur true colors ... run away like a biach...

 

[gaveshi]

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1. Why did God create bacteria, germs and diseases like cancer?

Allah created this things to test our belief in him .
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Also sometimes u get any disease and when u get recover u become more stronger "inside urself" "I know some true stories like this".
Also It's some kind of allah power that he create the thing and it's oppisite .

Oh what is the point of testing his own creations? Does he have a fear that there are errors in what he has created? Anyway human manufacturers do various things to test their products since there can be errors. That we can understand. But if the creator is not sure whether his own products are functioning properly there’s something wrong. Anyway, a deadly disease can completely destroy a human life. So he has given a test paper to kill the victim. Whatever the answer he’s giving will not help him to survive. If the victim has been a complete sinner we can understand that. But I have heard of very good ones falling as victims for deadly diseases when the bad ones get something lesser than that. It is so unfair

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2. I have heard of really good people suffer and die due to diseases like cancer. But some of the bad ones get to enjoy long life with other pleasures. What is reason for this?

I knew that if u get disease , Allah will give u more Applause in The other life as we believe otherlife is better than this one.

That is what you believe. You believe because it is there in the book. That is not a logical answer. Anyway if there’s any truth in it, after death also he will test you. For that also you have to fall sick again

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And about the bad ppl don't get disease u r wrong all humans get disease no mattar u r good or bad .

AAh. That is not true. Some people fall sick all the time. Others very rarely. Worse part is this, some good ones fall sick all the time and face untimely deaths when the bad ones enjoy good health.

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3. Why did God create a world where there are earthquakes, tsunamis and other disasters?

I said it's to test ppl

So you are telling me that death itself is a test. Well that is very cruel. Some good ones were killed without any time to write a single answer for the test.



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4. How come that these earthquakes occur in Muslim countries like Indonesia?

Same question . Muslims in this life just like others

If one muslim guy and one buddahist guy fall in the sea only The one who knows to swim will survive

Again it is not fair. Those who pray him day and night fall victims when the ones who do not pray or care escape. So what is the point of praying????????


Hey, I have to ask this again,
Are you telling me that learning swimming is better than praying???????????


Quote:

5. What is the purpose of creating disabled people? They get to suffer right from the beginning. It’s not fair

I just answerd this in anthor post
Quote:
http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthr...1515488&page=7

Sorry I want a simple answer here. Your answers there really confuse me. It’s a complete mess. You should thank gayatra for reading those. It’s difficult to identify the answers from the questions there.



Quote:

6. What is the cause of disparities in humans?
Intelligent – foolish (some are intelligent whereas some others are foolish)
Beautiful – ugly
Rich – poor
Tall – short
Good health – ill health


In ur opinion if the whole humans were the same what will be the benefit of this ?
I mean if all ppl r the same what the use of creating them all , just 1 human is enough

But I don’t understand. Why is he creating people with lesser intelligence and later punish them for making mistakes. It is not fair to expect them to perform like others.


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7. Why did God create planets like Mercury, asteroids, comets, meteors and etc. without any life?
Sry i can't understand this one , can u repeat with anthor form ?

I will make it short,

Why did he create other planets without life? What is he testing there?

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8. Why did God create some human beings with evil minds and later send messengers to correct them?

Why u create a game and put evil guys who fight against u all the time ?

So he is playing a game??????
Make us suffer for him to enjoy?

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9. After creating innocent babies in non-muslim families, is it fair to say destroy nonbelievers ?

Nthng in islam told us to kill any innocent one , just defend ouselves.

Go learn the quran first,

This is just a simple answer

Quote:

Quran (8:12) -

"I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.






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But why u kill innocent kids , women and families in burma ?

Oh poor thing. That also you do not know. This war is a result of Muslims raping a Buddhist girl. Anyway both parties are killing each other and you are blaming only one party. That’s so unfair.

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Rape-Murder of a Buddhist girl by Muslims led to riots
During the clashes, both Rakhine Buddhists and Muslims, 79 persons in total, were killed and many injured. It is totally untrue that hundreds or thousands have been killed and that those killed were Muslims. The deaths were caused by either group to each other, not by others. Houses and property worth millions of dollars were destroyed. Thousands of victims have become homeless

.

http://twocircles.net/2012jul22/rape...mbassador.html



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10. If there’s someone creating human beings, what is the reason for creating Lord Buddha to speak against a creator and his supreme power?

I think the same question ?

Good, keep thinking


By the way, I simply cannot agree with any of your answers and I don’t see any point in asking from you. It’s better if you read the quran before you visit a foreign forum to teach Islam. Luckily you came to teach Buddhists who practice metta to all. I think they have being too nice here. Maybe most of them are sleeping by the time you come here. But if you go to another foreign forum they will hammer you if you start teaching Islam from the very first thread without reading the full book. Keep in mind that it is not good to buy everything in the book. Apply some logic and see whether the facts make sense. Otherwise you can only say “Allah’s test” for all the questions asked by non believers. They will laugh at you and your religion. By the way, becareful with the ones who praise you lavishly without any reasoning. They may send you on a wild goose chase for their selfish motives. I have to go now. I will not be visiting this thread again to argue since you don’t know everything in quran. So no need to answer or make comments. I will give you time to read the book. Good bye

Very interesting feedback. As for riots,

Myanmar: Rape and murder of Buddhist girl by Muslims led to riots, and "it is totally untrue that hundreds or thousands have been killed and that those killed were Muslims"
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/07/m...iots-and-it-is-totally-untrue-that-hundr.html


The violence in Rakhine State was set off by the rape and murder of a Buddhist last month, said Ms. Lewa, which prompted a series of “revenge attacks.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/11/w...ergency-declared-in-western-myanmar.html?_r=0


the arrest of three Muslim men suspected of raping and killing a Buddhist woman sparked deadly clashes
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/10/26/world/asia/myanmar-rohingya-violence-explainer/index.html


The violence in Rakhine state began in late May when a Buddhist woman was raped and murdered by three Muslims
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19303869

The whole world knows about the cause of riots in Myanmar. But she is not willing to accept. Even if she becomes a victim of a Muslim rapist she will blame the Buddhists. There’s no point in telling her. She didn’t even see this part in your answer.

I have to go now. I will not be visiting this thread again to argue since you don’t know everything in quran. So no need to answer or make comments. I will give you time to read the book. Good bye

She has answered and waiting for you to response. Even if you do get a chance to visit this thread again don't waste your time writing for someone who is not reading. I too will not be visiting this thread again since the majority has realized that there's no point in writing for someone full of her own opinions and speculations

 

[sirajstc]

Ismi Bassam Elgendy

anta ?

ismi SirAj

 

[Sataninhell]

bla bla bla

පලයන් බං නිකන් කිච වෙන්නේ නැතුව , උබට ලැජ්ජාවක් ඇත්තෙම නැද්ද , නස් පුක් වෙන්න පදිරි උනාම අයෙත් troll කරන්න එනවා. වරෙන් කෝ කොන්ද කෙලින් තියෙන මිනිහෙක් වගේ. උබ ඔච්චරම පොන්නද? උබේ පිරිමි කමක් ගෑවිලවත් තියෙනවා නම් point එකට ටෝල්ක් කරපන් ජිවිතේ පලවෙනි පාරට හරි ...

 

[Ganegconsul]

ismi SirAj

Me Siraj lamayata lav karanna wena widiyak aththema nathidaaaa?
Karunakarala pm karaganna pudgalika katha


Bhaashaawa igena ganna ona nam ane tharaha nathiwa yaaluwawa ‘Education Section’ paththe ekkan gihilla Arabi igena ganna. Yaluwath aasayine mona monawa hari ugannanna. Nathinam denna tuition class ekak daaganna skype eken hari. Habayi kohe giyath yaaluwata poddak thanakata giyama hasirena hati kiyala deelama ekkan yanna.

 

[sirajstc]

Me Siraj lamayata lav karanna wena widiyak aththema nathidaaaa?
Karunakarala pm karaganna pudgalika katha


Bhaashaawa igena ganna ona nam ane tharaha nathiwa yaaluwawa ‘Education Section’ paththe ekkan gihilla Arabi igena ganna. Yaluwath aasayine mona monawa hari ugannanna. Nathinam denna tuition class ekak daaganna skype eken hari. Habayi kohe giyath yaaluwata poddak thanakata giyama hasirena hati kiyala deelama ekkan yanna.

​

 

[bassamelgendy]

ismi SirAj

Bye Bye SiraJ

Was Nice to see u here

Fi Aman Allah

@GuneBhai : I think u the only one who could get my point of view
I think u have to left those morons , Whatever u athiest , buddahist or anyreligion . They will attack ur intelligance after sometime u'll speak like them . Atleast u stay away from the religious board .
@silent killer : thnx for guiding me to this Fourm Now i should thank Allah for give me a brain , someguys here needs some pity

Now , All stay in peace

We may meet together in the heaven or I won't see u as u'll go for anthor place .

 

[Insight]

I can see where you going. It's good. You are slowly turning into an Athiest. The speed depends on yourself. If you are interested try Alisina.org it will hasten your journey.

Thanks for introducing Alisina.

Ali Sina says ‘The reason I am against Islam is not because it is a religion, but because it is a political ideology of imperialism and domination in the guise of religion. Because Islam does not follow the Golden Rule, it attracts violent people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Sina_%28activist%29

 

[kasunsri123]

aii ban umbala anunge aagam maaru karawanna ochchara dangalanne....thamange paaduwe kaala andala inna bari ekama aagama thamai muslim aagama.....thambinta wena wadak nadda.....

 

[AncientGlory]

the egyptian guy is right if Buddist worship Buddha for his wisdom. Then they should worship other people who has self realised certain things. Like Prof. Einstein.

What a baseless lame logic. Someone can choose to worship someone for some qualities, and choose not to do so, regarding someone else who might have the same qualities. That is perfectly allright.

yeah right.... worship for gratitude.... that's a hamba answer... even them worship allah for the gratitude... if so there is no difference between Buddhits and Muslims...

I think Buddist ask things from Buddha because they worship in gratitude.. isn't that a lame excuse for a worshiping Buddha. It is such a shame that Buddhists do what Buddha said exactly what not to do.

Oh don't try to fool me Insight I live in Sri Lanka too. What Buddhist meant in Worship is exactly what the other Abrahmic religions means.

Don't try to bend the word but it is the truth. Buddhists who worship Buddha wants things from him like protection, well being etc. those are pathetic practices and have to be abolished.

Completely disagree with you. Worship is commanded by GOD in most Abrahamic and theistic religions. Maybe you should first learn about them a bit. In buddhism, the word "worship" does not have the same meaning as in those religions.

Buddhists who worship Buddha might be expecting protection or some other kind of benefit. But that is not a part of Buddhsim, but a part of Sinhalese Buddhist culture. You live in Sri Lanka and you don't know the difference??

 

[AncientGlory]

Just one specific question

Who helped the humanity more

einstien or buddah ?

I need specific answers , "NO OFF TOPICS"

My posts were completely ignored earlier, so I'm assuming you put me in the "Idiot members" category.

However I would like to answer your above question and show you that it has no universal answer.

How do you measure"help'? It only has a subjective value.

If I ask you the question "who helped humanity more, Prophet Muhammad or Einstein" you'd probably say Prophet Muhammad and I'd say Einstein. The answer only reflects a subjective view. This question has no meaning.

 

[gaveshi]

If I ask you the question "who helped humanity more, Prophet Muhammad or Einstein" you'd probably say Prophet Muhammad and I'd say Einstein. The answer only reflects a subjective view. This question has no meaning.

I would like to add something to this. A Bodhisatva has to practice perfections for millions of years to become a Buddha. He has to sacrifice his physical valuables, bodily parts and life to practice perfections. So it is hilarious to compare those efforts with a simple discovery

 

[adhdhaee]

R u going to do dawa her??

 

[EdiT]

Why so much worrying to make us to change our religion. Why don't you try to understand your religion which make people to kill each.

 

[gaveshi]

Oh what is the point of testing his own creations?


Perhaps he's not sure about his creations


Again it is not fair. Those who pray him day and night fall victims when the ones who do not pray or care escape. So what is the point of praying????????


Their God is creating earthquakes to kill both parties. So there's no point in praying


Hey, I have to ask this again,
Are you telling me that learning swimming is better than praying???????????

Yes

But I don’t understand. Why is he creating people with lesser intelligence and later punish them for making mistakes. It is not fair to expect them to perform like others.


She has given a lame excuse about judgement. The ability to judge properly
should have been given at the beginning.



No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

She's talking about killing Kafirs. If Kafir's lack the ability to understand God's message it is not their fault. That ability to understand should have been given at the beginning

Since you have mentioned that you're not visiting this thread again I thought of expressing what I felt about her lame excuses. Hopefully you will add yours

 

[Miraj1722]

assaamu alaikum .
kai fahaluka?
min ayna antha?
ma huwa deenuka?

 

[mhdmirshad]

Don't flaunt yourself as better than others, don't put people down, don't hurt people, be kind and considerate.

If you don't follow these rules about love and compassion, it won't matter what religion you are following.

I am not a member of any religion, and yet I believe in and worship our creator

well said ! We all come under 1 category HUMANS.