Real TRUTH about Sri Lankan Universities! Read Carefully!

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[Tom Riddle]

Mind you this is not all about rankings! have you read the whole story?forget about the link I have given, at least the things I have posted?it says the gov lecturers are under qualified and they don't have wide exposure! not what I say but a lecturer of gov university.So how do you say Sri Lankan gov university undergraduates get a quality education?any explanation?also though rankings depends on research it also get the responses from students of those universities through internet.

OK you talked about QS and THE.So why none of the Sri Lankan universities are in those rankings?have you looked at QS ranking methodology?its not ALL about research.here it is for you.

http://www.topuniversities.com/univ...ings/qs-world-university-rankings-methodology

So now what you say???

I am a graduate from the University of Moratuwa, so I will focus on the quality of education at my university.

I prefer to focus on stuff that I actually have an intimate understanding about.



1. I have read the whole story quite a while ago when this incompetent piece of writing was getting much more attention than it deserved.


2. "This" may not be all about rankings. I find it amusing that you feel that any person who responds to the thread needs to address each and every 'issue' raised by either you or the article. I have no bones to pick regarding much of what has been said, hence the lack of a response. My time, also, is a limited and valuable (to me!) resource.


3. This Navaratne Bandara is just one person. That's one heck of a sampling bias. Do you know what his agenda is, how knowledgeable he is, what the majority of academics actually think? I know many other university academics who would claim that uni academics are worldly, well versed in their areas and qualified. At least in my university there are many academics who have pursued their doctorates in leading universities in the world (Ex - UIUC, UCSB, UC Davis, U of Tokyo, UBC etc.) At least to me, they seem to be quite over qualified to be academics in Sri Lanka.


4. Even in the link that you have given 60% of the marks are given to research. Academic reputation is built on research. Citations are built on research.

5. I did not directly say in my response that undergrads get a quality education. I just said that you cannot infer a causal relationship between Rankings and undergrad education quality. You should be concerned about rankings primarily if you are planning on doing a research degree.


That being said,


i. Students from my university consistently are placed in top universities in the world for their post graduate studies (The best students get into places like MIT)

ii. Students from my university consistently perform well in international competitions (See - IEEEXtreme, Google Summer of Code, Mondialogo Engineering award etc).

iii. Graduates from my university have built cool stuff (ex - the stuff being done at WSO2, MIT or even Virtusa)

iv. I myself have been at a highly ranked university and I didn't see a huge gap between the capabilities of the students.

 

[lks1241]

I am a graduate from the University of Moratuwa, so I will focus on the quality of education at my university.

I prefer to focus on stuff that I actually have an intimate understanding about.



1. I have read the whole story quite a while ago when this incompetent piece of writing was getting much more attention than it deserved.


2. "This" may not be all about rankings. I find it amusing that you feel that any person who responds to the thread needs to address each and every 'issue' raised by either you or the article. I have no bones to pick regarding much of what has been said, hence the lack of a response. My time, also, is a limited and valuable (to me!) resource.


3. This Navaratne Bandara is just one person. That's one heck of a sampling bias. Do you know what his agenda is, how knowledgeable he is, what the majority of academics actually think? I know many other university academics who would claim that uni academics are worldly, well versed in their areas and qualified. At least in my university there are many academics who have pursued their doctorates in leading universities in the world (Ex - UIUC, UCSB, UC Davis, U of Tokyo, UBC etc.) At least to me, they seem to be quite over qualified to be academics in Sri Lanka.


4. Even in the link that you have given 60% of the marks are given to research. Academic reputation is built on research. Citations are built on research.

5. I did not directly say in my response that undergrads get a quality education. I just said that you cannot infer a causal relationship between Rankings and undergrad education quality. You should be concerned about rankings primarily if you are planning on doing a research degree.


That being said,


i. Students from my university consistently are placed in top universities in the world for their post graduate studies (The best students get into places like MIT)

ii. Students from my university consistently perform well in international competitions (See - IEEEXtreme, Google Summer of Code, Mondialogo Engineering award etc).

iii. Graduates from my university have built cool stuff (ex - the stuff being done at WSO2, MIT or even Virtusa)

iv. I myself am at a highly ranked university right now and I don't see a huge gap between the capabilities of the students.

My points are,

1.how do you say in that link, 60% is given to research?did you read the explanations properly?the first 40% is also not all about research.i'll quote some part for you.

"The major advantage of measuring academic quality in this way is that it gives a more equal weighting to different discipline areas than research citation counts. Whereas citation rates are far higher in subjects like biomedical sciences than they are in English literature, for example, the academic reputation survey weights responses from academics in different fields equally."

So it is basically the responses from academics no purely the amount of research being done.

also see this.

2.ok yeah Prof Navarathne is only one person.then what about this?
"According to a prominent Sri Lankan medical doctor who is workings as an associate professor in an American university, the quality of Sri Lankan medical faculties has come down."

are you neglecting that by saying he is also just another man?surely you can't get each and every persons opinions right?And most of these gov university lecturers won't tell the truth.

3.True that most of the gov uni lecturers have done their Masters and PhD's in foreign universities.but this is all about where they have studied their undergraduate studies.like I have said earlier PhD is all about research.you do not do any coursework.you do not have to attend university.it is not compulsory.so its all about researching one particular area and mastering it.most of the knowledge you gain from the university will be in undergraduate level.So talking about PhD is pointless.

can you show me at least 5 people who have studied in a top 500 university for their 'undergraduate studies' and now lecturing in your Moratuwa university?

4.also selecting for MIT doesn't mean anything about the university he studied previously.its all about the talent of that student.(yeah I know a person who studied in Moratuwa University and now studying in MIT) if he is an exceptional student he will get selected for MIT regardless of the university he studied before.

5.May be people of gov universities doing cool stuff at WSO2 and MIT etc.but why haven't they implemented something exceptional to the country for the sake of SL?now do not say they do not have money.

by the way as you say if you are studying in a high ranked university now, you will get to know the difference soon.may be not.because you may be still a typical narrow minded Sri Lankan gov university student.

 

[waligamaya]

This is not about where you do the PhD its about where you do your undergraduate studies.Yeah it is a common thing,most SL graduates go to foreign universities to do their Masters and PhD.PhD is about research.you do nt even do a course work.most of the knowledge you will gain in Undergraduate studies.there on you will master one area in Masters and PhD.

also Prof. Navarathna Banda has commonly said Sri Lankan government universities not Humanities/Social/Art faculties.

Yeah I know the hourly rates of SL gov university lecturers.

the reason for quality reduce of lectures i above mentions, we have to motivate them for repurchases. i know most lectures done there work till mid night, but they don't got nothing.

තව මුලික වරදක් තමයි අපේ සමජයෙන් එන බොහොම පසුගමි අකල්පයක්.
එක තමයි අපි ඔක්කොම ඉගෙනගන්නෙ දැනුමට ආසාවෙ නෙවෙයි. අපිට ඔන වෛද්‍යවට්‍රයෙක්, ඉන්ජිනෙරුවෙක්, කලමනා කරුවෙක් සහ නීතික්ඥ වෙලා සල්ලි ගඩක් හම්බ කරන්න විතරයි. ඇත්තටම AL විද්‍ය සහ ගණිත වලින් විශිශ්ඨ ලෙස සමත් වෙන කට්ටිය එන්න ඔන Science faculty වලට. නමුත් එක වෙන්නැ, තව දෙයක් අපි ඉගෙනගෙන එ දෙවල් apply කරන්න බලන්නේ නැ අපි කරන්නෙ ජොබ් එකක් කරල පෞල් ජීවිතේ ගතකරන එක විතරයි. ල0නවෙ අපි කොහේ හරි විශ්වවිද්‍යලයකට ගිහිල්ල කරන්නෙ අදාල ශේශ්ත්‍රයේ දැනුම ගවෙශනය කරන එක නෙවෙයි, උද හරනයක් විදියට engineering student la degree එක කරන අතර තුට CIMA, HRර්‍ එක එක මගුල් ගොන්නක් කරනව, කවුරුත් කරන්නේ සහතික ගොන්නක් එකතුකරන එක විතරයි, එතකොට engineering science පිලිබද ගවෙශනය කරන්න කලයක් කො කරන්නෙ උගන්නන ටික විතරයි ඊට එහා අමතර දැනුම ගවෙශනය කර්න්නෙ බොහොම අඩුවෙන්( එදැනුමෙන් ල0කවෙ industry ඇති වැඩක්නැ ඔවුන්ට ඔන engineering නෙවෙයි management විතරයි , දෙශපලකයන්ටත් ඔනනැ එකනිසා තමයි ලන්කවෙ engineerස්ලගෙ comment valata යන්නේ නැතුව කරපු ඔක්කොම mega development project කැවෙ ).

තව දෙයක් කියන්න ඔන, මම අදුනන senior engineer කෙනෙක් කලයක් german වල වැඩ කලා එය කිවුව එයත් එක්ක හිටපු සැම German mechanical engineer කෙනෙගෙම ගෙදර workshop එකක් තිබුනා, එගොල්ලො වැඩ ඉවර වෙල ගෙදර ගිහිල්ල විනොදෙට මොනව හරි හදනවලු අඩු ගනේ ගෙදරට පුටුවක් හරි එත් අපිකරන්නෙ ගෙදර ඇවිත් ඨTV බලන එක.

 

[waligamaya]

I am a graduate from the University of Moratuwa, so I will focus on the quality of education at my university.

I prefer to focus on stuff that I actually have an intimate understanding about.



1. I have read the whole story quite a while ago when this incompetent piece of writing was getting much more attention than it deserved.


2. "This" may not be all about rankings. I find it amusing that you feel that any person who responds to the thread needs to address each and every 'issue' raised by either you or the article. I have no bones to pick regarding much of what has been said, hence the lack of a response. My time, also, is a limited and valuable (to me!) resource.


3. This Navaratne Bandara is just one person. That's one heck of a sampling bias. Do you know what his agenda is, how knowledgeable he is, what the majority of academics actually think? I know many other university academics who would claim that uni academics are worldly, well versed in their areas and qualified. At least in my university there are many academics who have pursued their doctorates in leading universities in the world (Ex - UIUC, UCSB, UC Davis, U of Tokyo, UBC etc.) At least to me, they seem to be quite over qualified to be academics in Sri Lanka.


4. Even in the link that you have given 60% of the marks are given to research. Academic reputation is built on research. Citations are built on research.

5. I did not directly say in my response that undergrads get a quality education. I just said that you cannot infer a causal relationship between Rankings and undergrad education quality. You should be concerned about rankings primarily if you are planning on doing a research degree.


That being said,


i. Students from my university consistently are placed in top universities in the world for their post graduate studies (The best students get into places like MIT)

ii. Students from my university consistently perform well in international competitions (See - IEEEXtreme, Google Summer of Code, Mondialogo Engineering award etc).

iii. Graduates from my university have built cool stuff (ex - the stuff being done at WSO2, MIT or even Virtusa)

iv. I myself have been at a highly ranked university and I didn't see a huge gap between the capabilities of the students.

 

[lks1241]

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[Mr.Thor]

I am a graduate from the University of Moratuwa, so I will focus on the quality of education at my university.

I prefer to focus on stuff that I actually have an intimate understanding about.



1. I have read the whole story quite a while ago when this incompetent piece of writing was getting much more attention than it deserved.


2. "This" may not be all about rankings. I find it amusing that you feel that any person who responds to the thread needs to address each and every 'issue' raised by either you or the article. I have no bones to pick regarding much of what has been said, hence the lack of a response. My time, also, is a limited and valuable (to me!) resource.


3. This Navaratne Bandara is just one person. That's one heck of a sampling bias. Do you know what his agenda is, how knowledgeable he is, what the majority of academics actually think? I know many other university academics who would claim that uni academics are worldly, well versed in their areas and qualified. At least in my university there are many academics who have pursued their doctorates in leading universities in the world (Ex - UIUC, UCSB, UC Davis, U of Tokyo, UBC etc.) At least to me, they seem to be quite over qualified to be academics in Sri Lanka.


4. Even in the link that you have given 60% of the marks are given to research. Academic reputation is built on research. Citations are built on research.

5. I did not directly say in my response that undergrads get a quality education. I just said that you cannot infer a causal relationship between Rankings and undergrad education quality. You should be concerned about rankings primarily if you are planning on doing a research degree.


That being said,


i. Students from my university consistently are placed in top universities in the world for their post graduate studies (The best students get into places like MIT)

ii. Students from my university consistently perform well in international competitions (See - IEEEXtreme, Google Summer of Code, Mondialogo Engineering award etc).

iii. Graduates from my university have built cool stuff (ex - the stuff being done at WSO2, MIT or even Virtusa)

iv. I myself have been at a highly ranked university and I didn't see a huge gap between the capabilities of the students.

 

[lks1241]

the reason for quality reduce of lectures i above mentions, we have to motivate them for repurchases. i know most lectures done there work till mid night, but they don't got nothing.

තව මුලික වරදක් තමයි අපේ සමජයෙන් එන බොහොම පසුගමි අකල්පයක්.
එක තමයි අපි ඔක්කොම ඉගෙනගන්නෙ දැනුමට ආසාවෙ නෙවෙයි. අපිට ඔන වෛද්‍යවට්‍රයෙක්, ඉන්ජිනෙරුවෙක්, කලමනා කරුවෙක් සහ නීතික්ඥ වෙලා සල්ලි ගඩක් හම්බ කරන්න විතරයි. ඇත්තටම AL විද්‍ය සහ ගණිත වලින් විශිශ්ඨ ලෙස සමත් වෙන කට්ටිය එන්න ඔන Science faculty වලට. නමුත් එක වෙන්නැ, තව දෙයක් අපි ඉගෙනගෙන එ දෙවල් apply කරන්න බලන්නේ නැ අපි කරන්නෙ ජොබ් එකක් කරල පෞල් ජීවිතේ ගතකරන එක විතරයි. ල0නවෙ අපි කොහේ හරි විශ්වවිද්‍යලයකට ගිහිල්ල කරන්නෙ අදාල ශේශ්ත්‍රයේ දැනුම ගවෙශනය කරන එක නෙවෙයි, උද හරනයක් විදියට engineering student la degree එක කරන අතර තුට CIMA, HRර්‍ එක එක මගුල් ගොන්නක් කරනව, කවුරුත් කරන්නේ සහතික ගොන්නක් එකතුකරන එක විතරයි, එතකොට engineering science පිලිබද ගවෙශනය කරන්න කලයක් කො කරන්නෙ උගන්නන ටික විතරයි ඊට එහා අමතර දැනුම ගවෙශනය කර්න්නෙ බොහොම අඩුවෙන්( එදැනුමෙන් ල0කවෙ industry ඇති වැඩක්නැ ඔවුන්ට ඔන engineering නෙවෙයි management විතරයි , දෙශපලකයන්ටත් ඔනනැ එකනිසා තමයි ලන්කවෙ engineerස්ලගෙ comment valata යන්නේ නැතුව කරපු ඔක්කොම mega development project කැවෙ ).

තව දෙයක් කියන්න ඔන, මම අදුනන senior engineer කෙනෙක් කලයක් german වල වැඩ කලා එය කිවුව එයත් එක්ක හිටපු සැම German mechanical engineer කෙනෙගෙම ගෙදර workshop එකක් තිබුනා, එගොල්ලො වැඩ ඉවර වෙල ගෙදර ගිහිල්ල විනොදෙට මොනව හරි හදනවලු අඩු ගනේ ගෙදරට පුටුවක් හරි එත් අපිකරන්නෙ ගෙදර ඇවිත් ඨTV බලන එක.

I can really understand what you say and what is your situation bro..
This is the real sad situation of Sri Lanka.Its you guys should try and change it for the sake of future Sri Lankan students.

 

[amilaxp]

an eye opening article with some sense after a long time. every idiot out their who praises govt universities must understand this simple fact. take out your jealousy against private unis' and work towards creating a degree that can stand in par with a foreign/private degree. This country needs more institutes to offer world class qualifications. Free education must have its limits and freedom of education must remain unchanged.

 

[lks1241]

an eye opening article with some sense after a long time. every idiot out their who praises govt universities must understand this simple fact. take out your jealousy against private unis' and work towards creating a degree that can stand in par with a foreign/private degree. This country needs more institutes to offer world class qualifications. Free education must have its limits and freedom of education must remain unchanged.

As far as I think whether it is a private institution or gov university quality of both of them should be increased.Yeah true "free education must have its limits and freedom of education must remain unchanged"

Thanks for the response

 

[BruceWayne92]

මේ රැන්කින් මත්තෙ නම් වැඩිය නැහෙන්න එපා කියලා තමා මමනම් කියන්නෙ

ඔව් අපේ රෑන්කින් චාටර් තමයි. ඒත් ඕවා හැදෙන්නෙ සාමාන්‍යයෙන් කොච්චර research කෙරෙනවද කියන එක මත. මෙතන රැන්කින් එකයි undergraduate කෙනෙක්ට ලැබෙන අධ්‍යාපනයේ ගුණාත්මක භාවයයි එක්ක direct relationship එකක් ගන්න එපා ඒක වැරදියි.

අනිත් එක තමයි මුල 500න් විතර පස්සෙ පිළිගත්ත රැන්කින් (ex - QS, THE) යුනි රෑන්ක් කරන්නෙ නෑ. මොකද ඒ තරම් research / visibility අඩු ඒවයෙ reliable විදියට රෑන්ක් කරන්න බැරි හින්දා.

දියුණු වෙන රටක් වෙච්ච අපේ රටේ යුනි වලින් වෙන්න ඕනෙ රටට වැඩක් තියෙන වැඩකාරයෝ බිහි කරන එකයි research කරනවනම් අපේ රටට අවශ්‍ය research කරන එකයි. ඔය ටික කරන්නවත් යුනි වලට සල්ලි නෑ හැබැයි. අන්න එතනයි තියෙන ප්‍රශ්නේ.

මචං ස්ටුඩෙන්ට් ලාගෙ රිසර්ච් වගේම ලෙක්චරස් ලාගේ රිසර්චුත් පුළුල් වෙන්න ඕනා .ඒ වගේම ඒ ඒ විෂය ක්ෂේස්ත්‍රයන් වලට පිරිනමන ඉහළම ත්‍යාග ලබාගැනීම වෙන්නත් ඕනේ .එහෙම උනාහම තමා රැන්කින්ග්ස් ඉහළ යන්නේ .ඒ වගේම ඔය කැම්පස් වලින් පිටවෙන ඇලුමිනි එක රටේ ලොකේ කීර්තිමත් පොරවල් වෙන්න ඕනේ .ඒ කිව්වේ උදාහරණයකට අපි ස්ටෑන්ෆොර්ඩ් එක කම්පියුටර් සයන්ස් වලට සුපිරි කියලා කියන්නේ ඇයි ? ඒ විශ්වවිද්‍යාලයෙන් බිහිවෙච්ච කට්ටිය ලොකේ කීරිතිමත් තැන්වල සහ සැළකියයුතු ලෙස විෂයට සේවයක් කරනවා .උදාහරණයකට කියනවානම් ගූගල් හදාපු හ්ඩෙන්නා ස්ටෑන් ෆර්ඩ් එකේ .අන්න ඒ වගේ .ඒත් අපේ රටේ තාම කිසිම සොයා ගැනීමක් ,සමීකරණයක් ,සංකල්පයක් ,ප්‍රවාදයක් දායක කරලා නැහැ නේ කිසිම විෂය ක්ෂේස්ත්‍රයකට .ඒකයි අවුල .අනික අපේ රටවල් වලින් හදන්නේ මෙහෙ හරි පිට රට හරි පඩියට වැඩ කරන එවුන් මිසක් අළුතින් හිතලා දෙයක් කරන්න පුළුවන් එවුන් නෙමේ නේ .හැබැයි එකේ වැරද්ද කැම්පස් එකේ වත් ,ඉස්කොලේවත් නෙමේ .අපි එකවසරේ ඉඳන් 13 වසර දක්වාත් එතනින් කැම්පස් එකෙන් ඇතුළුේඉ ඩිග්‍රීය ගැනීම දක්වාත් ඉගෙන ගන්න අධ්‍යාපන ක්‍රම වේදයේ .එකිනෙකාගේ රාමුවට සාපේක්ෂව වැඩ්ඩෝ ඇති .ඒත් විෂය පැත්තෙන් වැඩ්ඩෝ තාම නැහැ .අපිට ඉන්නේ විභාග වැඩර්ලා මිසක් විෂය පැත්තෙන් වැඩර්ලා නෙම්මේ .අන්න ඒකයි අවුල .
ඒ වගේම මචං මමත් පිළිගන්නවා සමහරක් රිසර්ච් කරන්න නම් පහසුකම් මදි කියලා. ඒත් සමහරක් එව්වට ඕඅනවටත් වඩා පහසුකම් තියෙනවා .මොකද මචං ආකිමිඩිස් ඉපිලෙන නියමය හොයාගත්තේ නාන ගමන් .එතකොට මම අහලා තියෙනවා එක ගනිත්ඥයෙක් ගණිත සමීකරණ විසඳුමක් ගත්තේ හිරගෙදර ඉන්න කොට කියලා .ඒ වගේම ඔය වගේ න්‍යායාත්මක පර්යේෂණ සහ ඩොයාගැනීම් ගණනාවක් කරලා තියෙන්නේ අඩුපහසුකම් මඪ්H‍යෑඅ .ප්‍රායෝගික පර්‍යේෂණ වලට තමා සල්ලි ඕන වෙන්නේ .ඒත් න්යායාත්මක සහ සංකල්පීය පර්යේෂණ වලය වැඩිම උනොත් හිතන්න මොළයයි හිතෙන දේ ලියන්න පෑනකුයි කොළ ටිකකුයි ත්බ්බොත් ඇති .

 

[Jack_Sparrow]

මම දන්නේ නැහැ මේ ත්‍රෙඩ් එකේ අරමුණ මොකක්ක්ද කියලා .එත් මේක කියන්න ඕනේ හැමෝන්ටම .මෙතන රැන්කින්ග් වලින් අඩු වෙලා තියෙන්නේ පොදුවේ ගත්තෝත් ශ්‍රිලංකාවේ විශ්ව විද්‍යාල .ඒ කිව්වේ උඹලාගෙත් මගෙත් රටේ කැම්පස් ටික .ඉතිං මේකේ ලැජ්ජාව කැම්පස් යන නොයන ,යන්න බලාපොරොත්තුවෙන් ඉන්න හැමොන්ටම බෙදෙනවා .ඒ වගේම තමා ප්‍රයිවට් එවුන් මෙතන නැටුවට උන්ගේ උපාධි දෙන යුනිවර් සිටි එක ඉහළ රෑන්කින් වල තියෙනවාය කියලා .ඔව් ඒක එහෙම තමා .උදාහරණයකට කිව්වොත් ස්ලිට් එකට ඇෆිලියේට් වෙච්ච යුනිවර් සිටීස් ගොඩක් ලංකාවේ රජයේ කැම්පස් වලට වඩා උඩ රෑන්කින්ග් තමා .ඒත් මට පොඩි ප්‍රශ්නයක් තියෙනවා .ප්‍රයිවට් එව්වට උපාධිය දෙන විශ්වවිද්‍යාලය රැන්ක්ස් උඩින් තියෙද්දි ඒ ප්‍රයිවට් ආයතන වල රැනිස් අඩුම මට්ටමේ තියෙන්නේ ඇයි ? ඒ කිවේ ඔය රැන්ක් ලිස්ට් එකේ පල්ලෙහාම ප්‍රයිවට් එව්වා තියෙනවා .ඒ වගේම පොදුවේ ගත්තෝත් අපි ඔක්කෝම ලැජ්ජා වෙන්න ඕනේ මේ දේට .මොකද මේ අපේ රටේ විශ්වවිද්‍යාල .වෙන කොහේවත් නෙමේ .මම දන්න කාලේ මොරටුව විශ්වවිද්‍යාලයට හොඳ ප්ලේස් එකක් තිබ්බා ලෝක මට්ටමෙන් .ඒත් දැන් මේ මොකද වෙලා තියෙන්නේ ? අපිට අයෙත් හිතන්න වෙනව

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samanyen pass rate eka yanne 40%
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[liquid]

By Darshani Wimalasuriya

Ragging and Violence in the Sri Lankan Universities

According to our assumption 100 % of former Sri Lankan university students have faced hazing -either physical or verbal abuse as first year students. So far no one could not disprove it and we challenge anyone to come forward and refute this statement.

Well sorry to burst your bubble but your assumption is wrong. I am an engineering student at the university of peradeniya and as an anti-ragger i assure you i have not undergone any form of ragging in my university life.

 

[hancok]

an eye opening article with some sense after a long time. every idiot out their who praises govt universities must understand this simple fact. take out your jealousy against private unis' and work towards creating a degree that can stand in par with a foreign/private degree. This country needs more institutes to offer world class qualifications. Free education must have its limits and freedom of education must remain unchanged.

On which areas does gov students are jealous of pvt students.
thats a big problem for me.
all I can think of is counter reasons

 

[lks1241]

මචං ස්ටුඩෙන්ට් ලාගෙ රිසර්ච් වගේම ලෙක්චරස් ලාගේ රිසර්චුත් පුළුල් වෙන්න ඕනා .ඒ වගේම ඒ ඒ විෂය ක්ෂේස්ත්‍රයන් වලට පිරිනමන ඉහළම ත්‍යාග ලබාගැනීම වෙන්නත් ඕනේ .එහෙම උනාහම තමා රැන්කින්ග්ස් ඉහළ යන්නේ .ඒ වගේම ඔය කැම්පස් වලින් පිටවෙන ඇලුමිනි එක රටේ ලොකේ කීර්තිමත් පොරවල් වෙන්න ඕනේ .ඒ කිව්වේ උදාහරණයකට අපි ස්ටෑන්ෆොර්ඩ් එක කම්පියුටර් සයන්ස් වලට සුපිරි කියලා කියන්නේ ඇයි ? ඒ විශ්වවිද්‍යාලයෙන් බිහිවෙච්ච කට්ටිය ලොකේ කීරිතිමත් තැන්වල සහ සැළකියයුතු ලෙස විෂයට සේවයක් කරනවා .උදාහරණයකට කියනවානම් ගූගල් හදාපු හ්ඩෙන්නා ස්ටෑන් ෆර්ඩ් එකේ .අන්න ඒ වගේ .ඒත් අපේ රටේ තාම කිසිම සොයා ගැනීමක් ,සමීකරණයක් ,සංකල්පයක් ,ප්‍රවාදයක් දායක කරලා නැහැ නේ කිසිම විෂය ක්ෂේස්ත්‍රයකට .ඒකයි අවුල .අනික අපේ රටවල් වලින් හදන්නේ මෙහෙ හරි පිට රට හරි පඩියට වැඩ කරන එවුන් මිසක් අළුතින් හිතලා දෙයක් කරන්න පුළුවන් එවුන් නෙමේ නේ .හැබැයි එකේ වැරද්ද කැම්පස් එකේ වත් ,ඉස්කොලේවත් නෙමේ .අපි එකවසරේ ඉඳන් 13 වසර දක්වාත් එතනින් කැම්පස් එකෙන් ඇතුළුේඉ ඩිග්‍රීය ගැනීම දක්වාත් ඉගෙන ගන්න අධ්‍යාපන ක්‍රම වේදයේ .එකිනෙකාගේ රාමුවට සාපේක්ෂව වැඩ්ඩෝ ඇති .ඒත් විෂය පැත්තෙන් වැඩ්ඩෝ තාම නැහැ .අපිට ඉන්නේ විභාග වැඩර්ලා මිසක් විෂය පැත්තෙන් වැඩර්ලා නෙම්මේ .අන්න ඒකයි අවුල .
ඒ වගේම මචං මමත් පිළිගන්නවා සමහරක් රිසර්ච් කරන්න නම් පහසුකම් මදි කියලා. ඒත් සමහරක් එව්වට ඕඅනවටත් වඩා පහසුකම් තියෙනවා .මොකද මචං ආකිමිඩිස් ඉපිලෙන නියමය හොයාගත්තේ නාන ගමන් .එතකොට මම අහලා තියෙනවා එක ගනිත්ඥයෙක් ගණිත සමීකරණ විසඳුමක් ගත්තේ හිරගෙදර ඉන්න කොට කියලා .ඒ වගේම ඔය වගේ න්‍යායාත්මක පර්යේෂණ සහ ඩොයාගැනීම් ගණනාවක් කරලා තියෙන්නේ අඩුපහසුකම් මඪ්H‍යෑඅ .ප්‍රායෝගික පර්‍යේෂණ වලට තමා සල්ලි ඕන වෙන්නේ .ඒත් න්යායාත්මක සහ සංකල්පීය පර්යේෂණ වලය වැඩිම උනොත් හිතන්න මොළයයි හිතෙන දේ ලියන්න පෑනකුයි කොළ ටිකකුයි ත්බ්බොත් ඇති .

The aim of this thread is to explain the situation of Sri Lankan gov universities for those who don't know it and also to the ones who have misunderstand it and in a fantasy world.

I have said few times that this is not the place to talk about private institutions. anyway as you have asked a question I will answer to that.

The reason is that the affiliated institutions like Sliit etc are just separate institutions.they have nothing to do with the university they are affiliated.they are just providing the same modules as the affiliated university teach their students.so they have come to an agreement with the Sri Lanakn institutions to provide some of their degree to the students at those institutions.it doesn't mean that institution gives the same standard education as well that foreign university is a world class university.I think I have explained enough. don't want to talk more about that.

Also as I think the system in SL wont change in another 50/60 years.The whole Sri Lankan education is in a mess.A main reason is the attitude of SL civil people as well as the ones who have power.

Bro I have explained this did you see it?

 

[amilaxp]

As far as I think whether it is a private institution or gov university quality of both of them should be increased.Yeah true "free education must have its limits and freedom of education must remain unchanged"

Thanks for the response

A private institute always maintains its standards cos otherwise it loses its demand. Also to offer a qualification from a reputed foreign university the institute must operate on a set of standards as required by the university. But govt shit is forever the same. No point even wasting my words on it.

Simple argument of these local pro state uni critics is that u can buy a degree if have money from a private university. LOL. i don't even see a point of arguing with such morons who have not even seen a syllabus of a foreign degree. A person who have been there knows how much sacrifice, research & sweat it takes to get the qualification.

 

[lks1241]

By Darshani Wimalasuriya

The quality of Sri Lankan university education is declining rapidly. According to the World ranking Sri Lankan universities are now lower than the universities of failed states in Africa. Major universities in Uganda, Ethiopia and Zimbabwe are now in a superior position than the Sri Lankan universities. Instead of educational quality Sri Lankan universities are now famous for violence, extremist student politics, strikes, low productivity, and moral decay.


Mr. Navarathna Banda – a senior lecture attached to the Sri Jayawardhanapura University provides factors that pushed the Sri Lankan universities in to a deplorable state. According to Mr. Navarathna Banda over 90 % of Sri Lankan university professors and senior lectures are under qualified and do not have a wider exposure. Majority of these university teachers are working in the same universities where they graduated and they do not have any overseas exposure or experience. Academically speaking their knowledge and experiences are stunted. Their knowledge is limited and outdated. These university teachers cannot provide students to face the educational challenges of the 21st century.


Over the last 30 years the Sri Lankan universities failed to do any world class research, conduct any validated scientific study or to do a notable publication that captured the attention of the international academia. These failures represent the emptiness that is filled in our universities. To cover-up these failures Professor Naleen De Silva recently did an Arsenic research at the Kelaniya University violating all the international research standards and it became a laughing stock among the academic community.

Ragging and Violence in the Sri Lankan Universities


Unfortunately ragging and violence have become an inseparable part of the local universities. Ragging involves harassment, abuse and humiliation that are aimed at the new students. It is a major form of human right violation. According to our assumption 100 % of former Sri Lankan university students have faced hazing -either physical or verbal abuse as first year students. So far no one could not disprove it and we challenge anyone to come forward and refute this statement.

The award-winning Sri Lankan film and tele-drama actress Yashoda Wimaladharma reveals that she had to undergo brutal ragging while studying at the University of Kelaniya and it became an emotional shock for her father Mr. R. L. Wimaladharma who served as a lecturer at the Kelaniya campus. According to Yashoda Wimaladharma her father could not witness these merciless harassment to his daughter and he suffered a heart attack.


The Student Unions

Sri Lankan Universities have student political groups that are manipulated by the extremists. When a new batch of students arrives at the University, they are intimidated and threatened to use physical ragging by the seniors. Often the new students are not allowed to have a dialog with the university lecturers, not allowed ask questions at the lectures, not allowed to take part in the English courses and not allowed to use the university library by these extreme student unions. In some universities the students are not allowed to drink beverages like coca cola. This sanction was vigorously implemented at the University of Colombo and University of Kelaniya.
The senior students of the Sri Lankan universities use physical and sexual harassment to control the newcomers.


The Poor State of Sri Lankan Medical Faculties

One time Sri Lankan medical schools produced knowledgeable doctors who had international recognition. Unfortunately this trend has changed over the past few decades. According to a prominent Sri Lankan medical doctor who is workings as an associate professor in an American university, the quality of Sri Lankan medical faculties has come down. Majority of the Sri Lankan doctors who graduated in the past few decades have very poor English knowledge and they are unable to communicate effectively and professionally. He further says that Sri Lankan doctors lack attitudinal training, medical ethics and accountability towards their patients. According to the international ranking of medical schools many medical schools of the 3rd world countries such as Nigeria, Nepal, India, and Tanzania have beaten the Sri Lankan medical faculties.

Sri Lankan Universities are Virtually Dead

Sri Lankan Universities are virtually dead says a senior lecturer attached to the University of Colombo. According to him qualified professors go to the overseas universities seeking prosperous job opportunities. Only the old and inefficient academics are trapped in the local universities. Majority of the Sri Lankan University Professors and senior lecturers do not want to improve the quality of the local universities or stop sadistic ragging. They never send their children to the Sri Lankan Universities. Their children go to the universities in United Kingdom, United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand etc. These irresponsible actions have created a huge academic void in the local universities.

Sri Lankan Universities are backward than the African Universities

The African Universities are now internationally more recognized than the Sri Lankan Universities. According to the 2012 world university ranking Makerere University (Uganda) has come to the 1174 place demonstrating a superior educational quality than Sri Lankan higher education institutes. Ironically Idi Amen’s Uganda has easily defeated the major universities in Sri Lanka. These Sri Lankan universities now represent a very low level of international ranking.


While Sri Lankan universities struggle with their low quality of education Polytechnic of Namibia has come to the 1319th place and Sudan’s University of Khartoum to 1394th place, University of Nairobi 1435th , Mansoura University of Egypt to1685th , University of Ghana 1797th Ethiopia’s Addis Ababa University 1903rd , Tanzania’s University of Dar Es Salaam 1977th and Sudan‘s University of Science & Technology to 2020th place. Most of these African countries have low literacy rate than Sri Lanka. But they defeated all our local universities in the international arena.


Need Action

Regrettably Sri Lankan Universities are facing moral and educational degradation especially in the last four decades. One time Sri Lankan universities were the shining examples of higher education and academic leadership. Unfortunately the qualities of education and research work in the Sri Lankan universities have gone down drastically. Today Sri Lankan universities are lagging behind. According to the 2012 World University Ranking Sri Lankan universities have a lower position and some African countries with low literacy rate than Sri Lanka have far more better educational ranking than the Sri Lankan Universities.


Education is not a privilege. It is a human right. Higher education is the only hope and salvation to the Sri Lankans and do not let anyone to destroy it.


Full Story on http://colombogazette.com/2013/12/12/sri-lankan-universities-falling-apart/


2014 Sri Lankan University Ranking

Earlier World rankings:

2013 July
http://studentlanka.com/2013/08/27/...rding-to-webometrics-world-ranking-2013-july/


Hiran

University Senior Lecturer at University of Sri Jayewardenepra, Sri Lanka


Comments

1. Hiran February 16, 2014 at 11:13 pm - World class university should concentrate on Teaching and Research. That is why all World University Ranking systems give major emphasis on Research.
   There are other rankings systems such as QS ranking, Times Higher Education etc. In those rankings none of the Sri Lankan universities got any place.

EDIT : To everyone who says rankings are all about research!

On which areas does gov students are jealous of pvt students.
thats a big problem for me.
all I can think of is counter reasons

What is your response for this thread??

 

[Tom Riddle]

My points are,

1.how do you say in that link, 60% is given to research?did you read the explanations properly?the first 40% is also not all about research.i'll quote some part for you.

"The major advantage of measuring academic quality in this way is that it gives a more equal weighting to different discipline areas than research citation counts. Whereas citation rates are far higher in subjects like biomedical sciences than they are in English literature, for example, the academic reputation survey weights responses from academics in different fields equally."

So it is basically the responses from academics no purely the amount of research being done.

How do you think academics form their opinion about a university in a different country?

2.ok yeah Prof Navarathne is only one person.then what about this? "According to a prominent Sri Lankan medical doctor who is workings as an associate professor in an American university, the quality of Sri Lankan medical faculties has come down."

are you neglecting that by saying he is also just another man?surely you can't get each and every persons opinions right?

Wow. I think you got me there.

Now you not only have one, but a freaking TWO people who say that the quality of undergrad education has gone down!!

What's more, this person is not even named! He is a 'prominent Sri Lankan medical doctor'. But that's OK, he's talking shit about govt universities isn't he - so I guess we should just believe him. If at all there is a 'him'.

If a different article was written claiming that a 'prominent doctor' said that the quality has improved would you agree with that?

And most of these gov university lecturers won't tell the truth.

Exactly my point dear. How do you now that Navaratne is telling the truth?

3.True that most of the gov uni lecturers have done their Masters and PhD's in foreign universities.but this is all about where they have studied their undergraduate studies.like I have said earlier PhD is all about research.you do do no do any coursework.so its all about researching one particular area and mastering it.most of the knowledge you gain from the university will be in undergraduate level.So talking about PhD is pointless.

can you show me at least 5 people who have studied in a top 500 university for their 'undergraduate studies' and now lecturing in your Moratuwa university?

OK so you are seriously ill-informed

1. When you are applying for a graduate position in a company no one asks what your A/L or O/L result was.

Likewise when you are applying for an academic job what is relevant is your postgraduate qualifications. Not your undergrad.

The PhD (or other postgraduate degrees) is a basic entry qualification for an academic job. I fail to see how it is 'pointless'.

Having studied at a top 500 university for your undergrad is what could be called 'pointless' to judge an academic by.


2.The fact that you have now mentioned, twice, that PhD students do not do any coursework at all shows just how clueless you are about the whole deal.

4.also selecting for MIT doesn't mean anything about the university he studied previously.its all about the talent of that student.(yeah I know a person who studied in Moratuwa University and now studying in MIT) if he is an exceptional student he will get selected for MIT regardless of the university he studied before.

What your undergrad university is plays a great deal on whether you get selected. You just aren't aware of this because you are not familiar with the admissions process. If they have not had students before, the university has no means of gauging whether students from a university in a different country are capable.

MIT has had Sri Lankan students before. One of them who did his undergrad at Moratuwa won the best thesis award for his PhD. This helps quite a bit because they know that Mora students do well. Since as far as I know MIT does not consider the GRE for admissions this becomes doubly important.

5.May be people of gov universities doing cool stuff at WSO2 and MIT etc.but why haven't they implemented something exceptional to the country for the sake of SL?now do not say they do not have money.

It might be because the cutting edge stuff they do is not valued in SL.

It might be because the real money is when you sell stuff abroad.

When you sell stuff to other countries that in itself is doing something exceptional to the country.

Also the Colombo Stock Exchange runs on MIT software, the same company that makes software for the London Stock Exchange - so there's that as well.

by the way if you are studying in a high ranked university you will get to know the dfference soon.may be not.because you may be still a typical narrow minded Sri Lankan gov university student.

Oh so I will get to know the difference eh? What a bold and ridiculous assumption to make without knowing anything about my situation at all.

 

[waligamaya]

මචං ස්ටුඩෙන්ට් ලාගෙ රිසර්ච් වගේම ලෙක්චරස් ලාගේ රිසර්චුත් පුළුල් වෙන්න ඕනා .ඒ වගේම ඒ ඒ විෂය ක්ෂේස්ත්‍රයන් වලට පිරිනමන ඉහළම ත්‍යාග ලබාගැනීම වෙන්නත් ඕනේ .එහෙම උනාහම තමා රැන්කින්ග්ස් ඉහළ යන්නේ .ඒ වගේම ඔය කැම්පස් වලින් පිටවෙන ඇලුමිනි එක රටේ ලොකේ කීර්තිමත් පොරවල් වෙන්න ඕනේ .ඒ කිව්වේ උදාහරණයකට අපි ස්ටෑන්ෆොර්ඩ් එක කම්පියුටර් සයන්ස් වලට සුපිරි කියලා කියන්නේ ඇයි ? ඒ විශ්වවිද්‍යාලයෙන් බිහිවෙච්ච කට්ටිය ලොකේ කීරිතිමත් තැන්වල සහ සැළකියයුතු ලෙස විෂයට සේවයක් කරනවා .උදාහරණයකට කියනවානම් ගූගල් හදාපු හ්ඩෙන්නා ස්ටෑන් ෆර්ඩ් එකේ .අන්න ඒ වගේ .ඒත් අපේ රටේ තාම කිසිම සොයා ගැනීමක් ,සමීකරණයක් ,සංකල්පයක් ,ප්‍රවාදයක් දායක කරලා නැහැ නේ කිසිම විෂය ක්ෂේස්ත්‍රයකට .ඒකයි අවුල .අනික අපේ රටවල් වලින් හදන්නේ මෙහෙ හරි පිට රට හරි පඩියට වැඩ කරන එවුන් මිසක් අළුතින් හිතලා දෙයක් කරන්න පුළුවන් එවුන් නෙමේ නේ .හැබැයි එකේ වැරද්ද කැම්පස් එකේ වත් ,ඉස්කොලේවත් නෙමේ .අපි එකවසරේ ඉඳන් 13 වසර දක්වාත් එතනින් කැම්පස් එකෙන් ඇතුළුේඉ ඩිග්‍රීය ගැනීම දක්වාත් ඉගෙන ගන්න අධ්‍යාපන ක්‍රම වේදයේ .එකිනෙකාගේ රාමුවට සාපේක්ෂව වැඩ්ඩෝ ඇති .ඒත් විෂය පැත්තෙන් වැඩ්ඩෝ තාම නැහැ .අපිට ඉන්නේ විභාග වැඩර්ලා මිසක් විෂය පැත්තෙන් වැඩර්ලා නෙම්මේ .අන්න ඒකයි අවුල .
ඒ වගේම මචං මමත් පිළිගන්නවා සමහරක් රිසර්ච් කරන්න නම් පහසුකම් මදි කියලා. ඒත් සමහරක් එව්වට ඕඅනවටත් වඩා පහසුකම් තියෙනවා .මොකද මචං ආකිමිඩිස් ඉපිලෙන නියමය හොයාගත්තේ නාන ගමන් .එතකොට මම අහලා තියෙනවා එක ගනිත්ඥයෙක් ගණිත සමීකරණ විසඳුමක් ගත්තේ හිරගෙදර ඉන්න කොට කියලා .ඒ වගේම ඔය වගේ න්‍යායාත්මක පර්යේෂණ සහ ඩොයාගැනීම් ගණනාවක් කරලා තියෙන්නේ අඩුපහසුකම් මඪ්H‍යෑඅ .ප්‍රායෝගික පර්‍යේෂණ වලට තමා සල්ලි ඕන වෙන්නේ .ඒත් න්යායාත්මක සහ සංකල්පීය පර්යේෂණ වලය වැඩිම උනොත් හිතන්න මොළයයි හිතෙන දේ ලියන්න පෑනකුයි කොළ ටිකකුයි ත්බ්බොත් ඇති .

 

[JesonRulez]

Machan, Don't waste your valuable time for answer these losers. They are not wise enough to understand the truth. Just let them die with those dreams.