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Oh don't lie. If I was born into a Muslim family I would have being a Muslim. There is no choice in that. Even so I cannot denounce Islam if I happened to be a Muslim? So where is the choice?

Okay then you agree that for those who aren't born into muslim families...those non-muslims...they are free to choose to obey God's commands or not, and his commands according to Islam? yeah?

If you were born into a muslim family and if you aren't good enough to think for yourself...then you're likely to be indoctrinated into Islam by your parents.

But still you have the choice..you can denounce Islam. But this won't be the right thing to do at times because of all the family and social consequences. Some people might even try and kill you. lool

But you can denounce Islam in your heart..and just stop practicing and stop following God's commands. You are free in that.

But in Islam's point of view, being a hypocrite is worse than being an apostate. So that's that.
 

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    How do you know he attained nirvana? How do you know that nirvana actually exists? Has someone experienced it? (without the use of alcohol, drugs and whatnot)?
    And how do you know that it wasn't an evil demon that gave Buddha this knowledge?

    AFA Buddha is concerned there is no god nor demon. Even we have no clue if there is gods or demons so Buddha may be right.

    Anyway, I don't know if Buddha attained Nirvana or it actually exists. I have to try to attain it. If I do I would tell you.

    And you have got it wrong again. Muhammed received revelation all through out his last 23 years of life....and it wasn't just that incident in the cave.

    His first revelation came when he was alone in that cave. That is what he said to people in the first place. And all the other revelations came to him when he was alone or at sleep. So that's pretty much unbelievable to us that god of Gabriel actually talked to him.


    By simple reasoning. Can you choose to be gay or straight? Can a straight person decide to switch? It's just non sense.

    I don't know if I can choose it or not. But I can fcuk any man in the butt. If that makes me gay so be it. There fore I have a choice to butt fuck other males.

    Anyway there are ample examples when straight people turned to fcuk other males when they cannot find any females. It's just human nature.

    And besides, why would people choose to be gay? After all the problems that they will have to face?

    To tend their urges. It's pretty much natural.

    Allah doesn't tell us to punish gay people.

    Oh allah does so read the Quran. Can a gay person enter haven according to Quran?


    And does Buddhism teach that "being gay" is a sin? Even when it is not a choice?

    Nothing is a sin in Buddhism unless it hurts someone. So Being gay is not a sin in Buddhism unless it makes someone else suffer.

    No. God doesn't will anyone to do bad. It's we who choose our nature...just like how God chosed his nature and names. We have some of his spirit.

    Then why your people cry Insha Allah?
     

    GuneBhai

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    Okay then you agree that for those who aren't born into muslim families...those non-muslims...they are free to choose to obey God's commands or not, and his commands according to Islam? yeah?

    Yes they have a choice. Which Islam doesn't give.

    If you were born into a muslim family and if you aren't good enough to think for yourself...then you're likely to be indoctrinated into Islam by your parents.

    But still you have the choice..you can denounce Islam. But this won't be the right thing to do at times because of all the family and social consequences. Some people might even try and kill you. lool

    But you can denounce Islam in your heart..and just stop practicing and stop following God's commands. You are free in that.

    But in Islam's point of view, being a hypocrite is worse than being an apostate. So that's that.

    If I was indoctrinated without my will into Islam where is the choice ?

    Some people might try to kill me? Why is that can you explain? :rofl::rofl:

    Even so I denounced Islam but I cannot say it out loud. What is the meaning of my free will?
     

    001flyD

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    Okay :)

    So you have faith in this universal law. I'm wondering..how do you know that this universal law is true? Who decides that after we die we should be born disabled? I'm not asking to debate you or anything...just to gain some information on this :)

    Umm well I was hunting down an old thread,but unfortunately I couldn't find in a haste,anyway this is something we must discuss in detail,which will take sometime,Karma is the moving force,which decides all and that's NOT something which can be adjusted by a GOD or someone like that,its the Nature,All the Good and Bad actions we do in our life time Records as waves (similar to something like that),and those records stay with us through out our sansaric life,and those Karmic forces will decide our destiny...

    This is the Buddhist View in Life after Life ( I hope this will be informative to you)

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    Whether a not killing animals obstructs peace is a subjective issue. You may think killing animals does obstruct peace..I may think otherwise.

    And yes, I do not think that killing animals for sacrifice obstructs peace...because I believe it's God's command and I believe God is peaceful. So your argument is circular...and thus meaningless for me.

    Do you think someone with a peaceful mind could kill animals :baffled: .
     

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    Do you remember how prabhakaran kill your men ? Mahinda save your men. You are traitor. No talk with you.

    ??

    Why am I a traitor? Just for supporting Maithree instead of Mahinda?

    Mahinda won the won..so what? That's his job. Well done.

    When voting we should look at the future and see who is better for good governance...not to be hunged up with the past. Mahinda is good to finish wars but not for good governance...If there is a war then I'll support Mahinda..but now the war is over. Time to support someone who can govern well during this new era. Someone who will do less corruption.
     

    Salafist

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    how can you do that
    allah remove your brain before you born
    remain small part also remove by doing sunnith(cutting your penis:lol:)
    so how can you understank

    Okay then I can't understand why you think muslims are a cancer to this world. I can't understand why you think that someone can live even with their brains removed. I can't understand why you think circumcision is cutting penises.
    I can't understand how you can understand these things.

    They say if you go angoda, then you can understand all these things. Are you in Angodo?
     

    Salafist

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    Do you think someone with a peaceful mind could kill animals :baffled: .

    I don't think someone with a peaceful mind would kill animals just for fun and sport.

    But I think someone with a peaceful mind could kill/sacrifice animals if God tells them to do so.

    As I said this is a subjective thing...and you can't just mock me for thinking this.
    And you can't call my God as non-peaceful because that's circular as well. :yes:
     

    Salafist

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    Umm well I was hunting down an old thread,but unfortunately I couldn't find in a haste,anyway this is something we must discuss in detail,which will take sometime,Karma is the moving force,which decides all and that's NOT something which can be adjusted by a GOD or someone like that,its the Nature,All the Good and Bad actions we do in our life time Records as waves (similar to something like that),and those records stay with us through out our sansaric life,and those Karmic forces will decide our destiny...

    This is the Buddhist View in Life after Life ( I hope this will be informative to you)

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    Interesting.

    So Buddhism goes into very fine detail about this rebirth phenomenon.

    But for me, it remains a theory. And it is not belief because anyone can come up with such explanation. To show it's serious enough to be held as a belief, I need to know the origin of this knowledge. Because in religion, it's not only the beliefs which matter..but also the origin of those beliefs and how true they are.

    To prove it's a fact..you have to use the scientific method and get evidence. Alternatively you can base it on just faith if you have a divine source for this knowledge. Someone, maybe you, earlier said that the Buddha got this knowledge due to the state of nirvana that he was in. But this itself needs proof...what is this state of nirvana? Has anyone else, and in the modern times, experience such things?
    And is the origin of this knowledge from people who have attained this state?

    Islam believes that revelation was brought through the Angel Gabriel. Now the existence of this angel needs to be credible in itself, but Islam attributes it's knowledge to something outside..something divine. Just like in Christianity...where the Christians attribute their scriptures to be inspired by the Holy Spirit..which is divine.
    But in the case of Buddhism there is no outside entity that is claimed to have given men this knowledge. It is as if men have got it by themselves. The state of nirvana itself was not outside the Buddha but he was within it.. and this to me is quite fishy.

    Anyway can I know from where did you get this picture. From a book? Can I know the name of the book? It's informative and enlightening...but there are some doubts. For example, how does nirvana come into this..this life after life? What happens if a person gets nirvana?
    Also I thought some of us will be reborn as lower beings - as animals....but there isn't any animal plane mentioned :/

    Also guess having such beliefs is very dangerous, unless it's true. For one thing, it explains the high suicide rates in SL.

    And also why do Buddhists worship the Buddha? Are you supposed to worship those who attain the state of nirvana?
     

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    Okay then I can't understand why you think muslims are a cancer to this world. I can't understand why you think that someone can live even with their brains removed. I can't understand why you think circumcision is cutting penises.
    I can't understand how you can understand these things.

    They say if you go angoda, then you can understand all these things. Are you in Angodo?

    no.i think you in there.that why you cant understand your people make rues to keep their life better.ur people thinking girls are your slaves.no they have rights to live.they have rights to remove fucking bukhartha after they can breath live free.why your people need more wifes.not to love man.only to fuck.your people are thinking girls are fucking and child birth machines.go man get sone medication.no benifits to talk donki like you:no:
     

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    AFA Buddha is concerned there is no god nor demon. Even we have no clue if there is gods or demons so Buddha may be right.

    What if there is demons and demons gave Buddha false knowledge?

    Anyway, I don't know if Buddha attained Nirvana or it actually exists. I have to try to attain it. If I do I would tell you.

    loool. If Buddha didn't attain nirvana then what's the point of you trying to achieve it!? If Buddha didn't attain nirvana then Buddhism is false!

    His first revelation came when he was alone in that cave. That is what he said to people in the first place. And all the other revelations came to him when he was alone or at sleep. So that's pretty much unbelievable to us that god of Gabriel actually talked to him.

    No. Revelation came to him even when he was addressing a crowd.
    Such as Surah an najm. (53rd chapter of the Quran). The prophet recited the revelation as he was receiving it, in front of a crowd of non-muslims and muslims.

    Besides that, there is plenty of reasons to believe in Muhammed.


    I don't know if I can choose it or not. But I can fcuk any man in the butt. If that makes me gay so be it. There fore I have a choice to butt fuck other males.

    Yeah...that's why only butt fucking is haram/impermissible in Islam. Butt fucking is a sin. Because it's a choice. Being gay isn't a choice.
    In Islam, you will only be punished for choosing to do bad. You will only be punished if there is a choice and you choose wrong.

    Simply said:
    Being gay. Not a choice. no sin.
    Butt fucking/ sodomy. Choice. SIN.

    I doubt that sodomy/butt fucking actually makes people gay. Maybe it does.

    It's just that when you are sexually high..you need to have the right stimulus. If you are a male..then this stimulus should be a female. If you force yourself to be sexually high when the stimilus is a male..then you're likely to become gay. So butt-fucking males indeed could make people gay.

    Anyway there are ample examples when straight people turned to fcuk other males when they cannot find any females. It's just human nature.

    Ample examples?! :shocked:
    Any straight male would rather masturbate (fuck themselves) than fucking another male..lool

    Can you give me an example?

    To tend their urges. It's pretty much natural.

    You can't choose to be gay.

    Oh allah does so read the Quran. Can a gay person enter haven according to Quran?

    Gay person can enter heaven. Allah never says he will punish gay people.
    He only says he will punish people who will approach gay acts (like sodomy) or do them.

    Nothing is a sin in Buddhism unless it hurts someone.

    Okay then. That's common sense. In Islam anything which hurts someone is a sin. Also anything which hurts ourselves (like alcohol/drugs/adultery) is also a sin.

    And then there's a problem in judging what things hurt. Different people will have different opinions of things which hurt others. Someone might think it's okay to rape, for example.

    So in order to overcome the problem which will be caused by society as a result of morals differing...Islam offers a set of objective morals. And these objective morals are determined by God who has created us and know us best.
    Thus objective moralism is the best way forwards rather than having a general rule "everything which hurts others is a sin".

    In additional to the set of rules governed by the objective moralism as determined by God..we also have extra rules (commandments) that God imposes on us in order to test our faiths. So that we could see whether we are worthy of a good or better reward or not.

    So Being gay is not a sin in Buddhism unless it makes someone else suffer.

    Sri Lanka is a Buddhist country and in here, it is illegal to be gay. Explain!

    Then why your people cry Insha Allah?

    The choices we make is not affected by God's will.

    But we don't know the future. We are not in control of other things which could happen to us. We could die any second for example. See what happened to Philip Hughes...did he know he was going to die when he came out to bat?

    So that's why we say "Insha Allah" which means "If God wills" literally..or "If God is willing" or "God willingly" etc because we aren't in control of the future and not that we aren't in control of our choices.

    Yes they have a choice. Which Islam doesn't give.

    What do you mean..Islam doesn't give?
    Islam gives free choice. You can obey God or you can disobey...no one forces anyone.

    If I was indoctrinated without my will into Islam where is the choice ?

    There is little choice there..I admit. Just like if you are indoctrinated into Buddhism by your parents and "sunday school".

    But if you are a thinking guy..then you won't just follow blindly. You will critically reason with the belief-systems available and choose what makes more sense.

    Some people might try to kill me? Why is that can you explain? :rofl::rofl:

    Not kill you. But they will stop communicating with you,

    But some muslims do get very angry..and will try to hurt you....but that's all wrong and sinning.

    Even so I denounced Islam but I cannot say it out loud. What is the meaning of my free will?

    You can't say it aloud because of Muslim societies. They won't tolerate apostates. On the other hand, Islam does tolerate apostates, though some would argue otherwise.
     

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    Without just spouting nonsense and rubbish ... why don't you try to learn some Islam? You're comments show that you are very very ignorant on Islam.

    .i think you in there.

    Wrong. I am not in there.

    that why you cant understand your people make rues to keep their life better.

    We make rules to keep our lives better. yes.

    ur people thinking girls are your slaves.

    ? No.

    no they have rights to live.

    why do you think this?

    they have rights to remove fucking bukhartha after they can breath live free

    Don't get you.

    .why your people need more wifes.not to love man.only to fuck.

    Uh? Not only to fuck....to love and care as well.

    your people are thinking girls are fucking and child birth machines.

    What?
    We respect girls and women. Islam respects girls and women.
    I don't know whether muslims you know repect them. But that's muslims...not Islam.

    And child birth machines?! The woman also has a say whether she want more children or not.

    go man get sone medication.no benifits to talk donki like you:no:

    okay. No use talking with close-minded ignorant people like you.
     

    001flyD

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    What?
    We respect girls and women. Islam respects girls and women.
    I don't know whether muslims you know repect them. But that's muslims...not Islam.

    And child birth machines?! The woman also has a say whether she want more children or not.



    okay. No use talking with close-minded ignorant people like you.

    :yes::yes:

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    001flyD

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    @ Salafist

    Anyone can achieve this Knowledge by gaining a higher level of spiritual development through meditation, meditation is the Key to this Knowledge, There are many Sciences, for example Western Science (Modern Science),Eastern Science (also now we have identified a science called Sinhalese Science, which is a sub of this Eastern sect) Eastern Science is vastly based on the Knowledge assimilated by psychic abilities gained through the development of the mind, Western and Eastern are two Schools of knowledge, So it’s quite impossible to prove something discovered by the Eastern way from the Western mindset, however certain Western scientists such as Fritjof Capra, Edgar Cayce and many more (I can’t recall all the names now) have done various researches and experiments to prove these facts during their career...

    What is Nirvana ? ,here a fairly Good Explanation

    It is a dimension transcending time and space and thus is difficult to talk about or even to think about. Words and thoughts being only suited to describe the time-space dimension. But because Nirvana is beyond time, there is no movement and so no aging or dying. Thus Nirvana is eternal. Because it is beyond space, there is no causation, no boundary, no concept of self and not-self and thus Nirvana is infinite. The Buddha also assures us that Nirvana is an experience of profound happiness. He says: Nirvana is the highest happiness.Dp 204 - Ven.S.Dhammika
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    About the book

    This is a book named The Science and the Art of Buddhism written by one Dr Senaka Ranasinghe, I lend the book to one of my friends and he never return it back, it’s a very informative book[/FONT].or else I could have share it with you (pdf format)
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    Why do Buddhists worship the Buddha ? ,here a Good Explanation[/FONT]

    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]There are different types of worship. When someone worships a god, they praise him or her, making offerings and ask for favours, believing that the god will hear their praise, receive their offerings and answer their prayers. Buddhists do not indulge in this kind of worship. The other kind of worship is when we show respect to someone or something we admire. When a teacher walks into a room we stand up, when we meet a dignitary we shake hands,when the national anthem is played we salute. These are all gestures of respect and worship and indicate our admiration for persons and things. This is the type of worship Buddhist practise. A statue of the Buddha with its hands rested gently in its lap and its compassionate smile reminds us to strive to develop peace and love within ourselves. The perfume of incense reminds us of the pervading influence of virtue, the lamp reminds us of light of knowledge and the flowers which soon fade and die, reminds us of impermanence. When we bow, we express our gratitude to the Buddha for what his teachings have given us. This is the nature of Buddhist worship. - [/FONT]Ven.S.Dhammika


    After All,I stand here
    ,Must include Buddhism as well :yes:

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    What if there is demons and demons gave Buddha false knowledge?

    I don't know. What if a demon gave Muhammad false knowledge? How do you prove otherwise?

    loool. If Buddha didn't attain nirvana then what's the point of you trying to achieve it!? If Buddha didn't attain nirvana then Buddhism is false!

    Buddha has shown us the way to attain Nirvana. We need to try to attain. Only then we can prove if it is true or false. Don't you wanna try?

    No. Revelation came to him even when he was addressing a crowd.
    Such as Surah an najm. (53rd chapter of the Quran). The prophet recited the revelation as he was receiving it, in front of a crowd of non-muslims and muslims.

    Ok but the revelation were only heard by Muhammad right? No one else heard them except through Muhammad.

    Yeah...that's why only butt fucking is haram/impermissible in Islam. Butt fucking is a sin. Because it's a choice. Being gay isn't a choice.
    In Islam, you will only be punished for choosing to do bad. You will only be punished if there is a choice and you choose wrong.

    So butt fucking is the sin. So why butt fucking is bad? What is the difference between butt fucking and vaginal fucking? If butt fucking is bad then what about oral sex? Is it also haram? Pussy eating is also haram? How about lip kiss?

    Ample examples?! :shocked:
    Any straight male would rather masturbate (fuck themselves) than fucking another male..lool

    Can you give me an example?

    Yeah. Go to Saudi Arabia for instance. There are many gay people because they can't easily have women. This is true for many Muslim countries.

    Gay person can enter heaven. Allah never says he will punish gay people.
    He only says he will punish people who will approach gay acts (like sodomy) or do them.

    Gay people do gay acts. Which means god punish them? If the butt fucking, being gay thing is bad, why god created a butt hole in the first place? couldn't he made some other way to release our waste? Didn't god see what would we gonna do with the butt hole?


    And then there's a problem in judging what things hurt. Different people will have different opinions of things which hurt others. Someone might think it's okay to rape, for example.

    It doesn't matter what we think. The only thing matter is how much it affect others negatively or positively.


    In additional to the set of rules governed by the objective moralism as determined by God..we also have extra rules (commandments) that God imposes on us in order to test our faiths. So that we could see whether we are worthy of a good or better reward or not.

    Why god is so obsessed with worthy people who obeys him? Aren't we all created equal by the god?


    Sri Lanka is a Buddhist country and in here, it is illegal to be gay. Explain!

    It is not illegal to be gay in Sri Lanka. It was only the gay marriages that were illegal. But even that is allowed now.

    The choices we make is not affected by God's will.

    So god cannot control us? our choices? Or he doesn't want to?


    What do you mean..Islam doesn't give?
    Islam gives free choice. You can obey God or you can disobey...no one forces anyone.

    Not even Quran?

    There is little choice there..I admit. Just like if you are indoctrinated into Buddhism by your parents and "sunday school".

    But if you are a thinking guy..then you won't just follow blindly. You will critically reason with the belief-systems available and choose what makes more sense.

    But Buddhism doesn't order me to be killed for apostasy. Islam does.


    Not kill you. But they will stop communicating with you,

    But some muslims do get very angry..and will try to hurt you....but that's all wrong and sinning.

    So you say Quran is wrong?

    You can't say it aloud because of Muslim societies. They won't tolerate apostates. On the other hand, Islam does tolerate apostates, though some would argue otherwise.

    So you say Quran is wrong?
     

    001flyD

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    This is what famous theoretical physicist Albert Einstein uttered once, nowadays people use to post this quote every nook and corner of the net to convince that Buddhism is running parallel with the Modern Science but I should emphasize that it’s NOT so.Modern Science is Subject to change, but Buddhism stays where it is and was before 2500 years back. I thought to tell you this because you inquired about the modern science and Buddhism (I mean to prove Buddhism through western wisdom) as I said prior its quite impossible to prove something discovered by the Eastern way from the Western Wisdom...

    However, Buddhism unlike other Religions cope with modern scientific needs..

    Earlier I missed one of your questions,that is
    Also I thought some of us will be reborn as lower beings - as animals....but there isn't any animal plane mentioned :/
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