Know Islam one question at a time

[Mujaahid]

there are many questions...here i hope you don't mind if it bring to one topic/theme....why does God allow evil & suffering on earth.....

God gives us a DNA & parents to give us a behavioral training....the behavior of ppl also comes from the way we are brought up and the things we see.....

and you have to understand....not even Hitler is purely evil....or someone like Ghandi purely good....

AND due to the fact we HAVE free will....and that each human takes a decision based on situations that come up....for example....you learn that a co-worker is cheating etc.....you can snitch on him and get a good name from your boss....or try to correct him...or not interfere at all....

and based on what you did there....for example...if your going on a trip and get a free ticket to take someone from the office....and you previously told the boss about that worker...maybe the boss will agree to come with you....etc....

and if the boss goes with you maybe he will not face a horrible accident the next day.....

God sees this point of view....He looks at the whole scope....If you didn't interfere and allowed the co-worker to cheat....you helped the worker and betrayed the boss....so....you did good to one person...and was bad to the other....

similarly...Hitler might have been good to one person...and possibly helped them in one way or the other....that is one point....

and another is that...Hitler made the decision to fight...ON HIS OWN...God knew He would do according to the way Hitler is made...but it is also God who wishes the best for us....God created Hitler...to teach man a lesson...let Hitler help the people he helped (similar to example i gave)....AND to give Hitler a chance...to change....

or maybe He wanted a Hitler to do the things...so that God could prepare and work another set of plans...TO help another group of people even more...like the American factory workers....who were suffering the great depression....and got the jobs making weapons in giant military factories...

you can never really fathom the millions of ways the wheels of this world moves....have you heard of the saying... a butterfly flapping its wings in China...can cause hurricanes in America....

you really correct this is the nature of world.so you said no one could totally pure or evil. but what is the purpose of creation. does god do not want people get 100% pure.is that good or bad.
think which one is needed to the world
10% good-90% bad people or
10% bad - 90% good people

can hitlers good deeds compare with his bad deeds.


American factory workers....who were suffering the great depression....and got the jobs making weapons in giant military factories

what is the most worst thing the dipression or gun making. it is rather better to die by dipression rather than gone for a job like that.isnt it true or false. so if you said the god plan everything wy would god make plan that is dangour for human and all beings???

another one question bro how could god plans if he give us freedom to choose. tha plan may be change due to our decision

 

[Mujaahid]

lol...so your saying they randomly guessed clay....

and you think its the malleable material the arabs used?...

not arab whole world used clay for making things even before billions years ago in earth, if not sure google it.
of course not randomly but in common sense

 

[diamonddrago]

not arab whole world used clay for making things even before billions years ago in earth, if not sure google it.
of course not randomly but in common sense

lol...and there we had Christians saying humans were created in "God's Image"...

and Buddhists saying Humans are made of some sort of soul seed...that dies and grows back again....

and don't even get me started on Hindu version...its rather...perverted....

all this.....and the Arabs say Humans are made of clay....?.....why would they say this.....they could have said Humans are made of star dust as well....

 

[prasadana2]

Does Islam ban entertainment?

 

[prasadana2]

are u a slave of Allah?

 

[diamonddrago]

you really correct this is the nature of world.so you said no one could totally pure or evil. but what is the purpose of creation. does god do not want people get 100% pure.is that good or bad.
think which one is needed to the world
10% good-90% bad people or
10% bad - 90% good people

can hitlers good deeds compare with his bad deeds.


American factory workers....who were suffering the great depression....and got the jobs making weapons in giant military factories

what is the most worst thing the dipression or gun making. it is rather better to die by dipression rather than gone for a job like that.isnt it true or false. so if you said the god plan everything wy would god make plan that is dangour for human and all beings???

another one question bro how could god plans if he give us freedom to choose. tha plan may be change due to our decision

lol...your just being a pessimist....

every grey cloud has a silver lining....

even the tsunami....before it came....we were all more or less divided....but after it...even thou ppl died and suffered....the survivors united with each other...and for that short period of time....we saw how much we can accomplish together....we saw how much the rest of the world cared about our country.....

even former American presidents were so concerned they flew over our country personally surveying the damages....

and as you said...this is the earth....God rules it...but Man runs it....how it runs and what happens to it is part of our responsibility....

you can't take a stick and beat up another person and say God didn't stop me...as an excuse....then blame god when you get beat up in return....

and don't you see all the good God is done...in the wonders and miracles He has given us...Love...Care...Family....all given and provided by God....

and if everyone made good and no body suffered..

1) life on earth would be boring...as evil s that sounds....

2) Life would not have a challenge....

3) You would not have goals...

4) You would not work hard....

5) the stagnation would actually de-evolve us.....look at animals....they have no concept of good or bad....and they don't have a conscience either

and being good...would not be a rewarding....unless you conscience make a decision to BE good....being a puppet is not how humans must live.....

 

[diamonddrago]

Does Islam ban entertainment?

nope.....

what gave you that idea......it does ban string instruments thou....

dunno why.....maybe coz string instruments can cut fingers....

oh and no gambling with real money.....if you think that is entertainment....that is....

 

[diamonddrago]

are u a slave of Allah?

nope...Angel...prophets and the like are slaves of God....

humans are servants....

slaves don't have free will.....angels and prophets do as God says....as THEY are sure of what they know....hence no value to their belief.....(big topic...go research you might find a few point to shut me up so won't say it here )

servants do as God says...with thought....thinking things out....questioning your religion & applying its rules to the environment around you is a big part of Islam.....

but its amazing how a Muslim in America....Palestine....or some village in Africa forests or right here in Sri lanka..can all lead perfectly normal lives all the while under Islam's laws.....

these small things amaze me.....

 

[Mujaahid]

even the tsunami....before it came....we were all more or less divided....but after it...even thou ppl died and suffered....the survivors united with each other...and for that short period of time....we saw how much we can accomplish together....we saw how much the rest of the world cared about our country.....






and if everyone made good and no body suffered..

1) life on earth would be boring...as evil s that sounds....

2) Life would not have a challenge....

3) You would not have goals...

4) You would not work hard....

5) the stagnation would actually de-evolve us.....look at animals....they have no concept of good or bad....and they don't have a conscience either

if you say tsunami make people together and you also say short period time should god killed thousand of people to make that short period time???

any way still their are small childrens who are suffering for their mothers fathers death. their are mothers fathers are suffering for missing chidrens?
go and talk with them, they will teach you about god nicely

1. im shocked you get boring if every body gets good, thats a thinking of a violence religion.

2.what do you mean by challenge?? goals???


does animal dont know what is good or bad, havn't you seen they are fighting each other for foods, females etc.

so what will be the situation in heaven ??? do you need evil in heaven also if not you will got boring

 

[Mujaahid]

lol...and there we had Christians saying humans were created in "God's Image"...

and Buddhists saying Humans are made of some sort of soul seed...that dies and grows back again....

and don't even get me started on Hindu version...its rather...perverted....

all this.....and the Arabs say Humans are made of clay....?.....why would they say this.....they could have said Humans are made of star dust as well....

because their are not only arabs living on that community. you see the hundred of koran verses says " tell to the jews and christian"
so if somebody tell you that human made by star dust he will be a joker in that society.

they cant say so bcoz they do not know about star dust they just think stars are lamps that god placed on the sky, if they tell that wont suprise too because it will contain the same materials as here .

although you laugh to others ,modern world will laugh at you if you say that human made by clay

 

[diamonddrago]

if you say tsunami make people together and you also say short period time should god killed thousand of people to make that short period time???

any way still their are small childrens who are suffering for their mothers fathers death. their are mothers fathers are suffering for missing chidrens?
go and talk with them, they will teach you about god nicely

1. im shocked you get boring if every body gets good, thats a thinking of a violence religion.

2.what do you mean by challenge?? goals???


does animal dont know what is good or bad, havn't you seen they are fighting each other for foods, females etc.

so what will be the situation in heaven ??? do you need evil in heaven also if not you will got boring

huh?....dude its common sense.....

if everyone had the same amount of good...and nobody suffered....then everyone will reach the point of content...

ever seen the movie WALL.E.....those fat humans will be us......no goals in life....and even if you do a good job you won't feel the value of it....

why coz you will be a puppet....a wooden puppet........or something like that.....

God gave humans desires & lusts for a reason....it is a test...to see who of us has the ability to resist temptations...and achieve our Goals....in this life...and in our after life (Heaven or hell)......

and don't you think for the God who created them in the first place....will know how to take care of those children....and safely bring back those parents to life in heaven?....

and no animals do not know if its good or bad......they don't have free thought...they act by instinct....and by watching how its parents act.....heck....the only reason animals look after their young is coz of smells and other signals.....for example....did you know if a human touches a tiger cub too much....the smell of the humans get attached to the cub's fur...and the mother will kill and eat the cub....

 

[diamonddrago]

because their are not only arabs living on that community. you see the hundred of koran verses says " tell to the jews and christian"
so if somebody tell you that human made by star dust he will be a joker in that society.

they cant say so bcoz they do not know about star dust they just think stars are lamps that god placed on the sky, if they tell that wont suprise too because it will contain the same materials as here .

although you laugh to others ,modern world will laugh at you if you say that human made by clay

LMAO...modern humans who know soil biology/botany or any other earth based and mineral research fields....won't laugh...infact they are amazed at it.....

so your saying of all these religions...Islam lucky stumbled on and said man is created from clay/earth.....

 

[Mujaahid]

huh?....dude its common sense.....

if everyone had the same amount of good...and nobody suffered....then everyone will reach the point of content...

ever seen the movie WALL.E.....those fat humans will be us......no goals in life....and even if you do a good job you won't feel the value of it....

why coz you will be a puppet....a wooden puppet........or something like that.....

God gave humans desires & lusts for a reason....it is a test...to see who of us has the ability to resist temptations...and achieve our Goals....in this life...and in our after life (Heaven or hell)......

and don't you think for the God who created them in the first place....will know how to take care of those children....and safely bring back those parents to life in heaven?....

and no animals do not know if its good or bad......they don't have free thought...they act by instinct....and by watching how its parents act.....heck....the only reason animals look after their young is coz of smells and other signals.....for example....did you know if a human touches a tiger cub too much....the smell of the humans get attached to the cub's fur...and the mother will kill and eat the cub....

final abstract of your content i think , no evil no life and people of goods are puppets. then why god punish for their evilness
as you said,

world need,

rapes
wars
child abuse
murders

to achieve our goals.......

all these sins has a reason,god plan them and used some souls to get that plan done and finally put them in hell. nice theory totally shocked and lol

 

[Mujaahid]

LMAO...modern humans who know soil biology/botany or any other earth based and mineral research fields....won't laugh...infact they are amazed at it.....

so your saying of all these religions...Islam lucky stumbled on and said man is created from clay/earth.....

just give a example that soil biology adopt with that koran statement . but koran also says that human made from blood clot too. which one is the right one.

 

[diamonddrago]

just give a example that soil biology adopt with that koran statement . but koran also says that human made from blood clot too. which one is the right one.

lol.....ah so you did do your research...lol...good.....

this describes the creation of Adam...the first man by God....

"He began the creation of man from dust. Then He made his progeny of an extract of water held in light esteem. Then He made him complete and breathed into him of His spirit and made for you ears and eyes and heart.) (As-Sajdah 32:7-9)"


now the man after Adam....

"(O mankind! if ye are in doubt concerning the Resurrection, then lo! We have created you from dust, then from a drop of seed, then from a clot, then from a little lump of flesh shapely and shapeless, that We may make (it) clean for you. And We cause what We will to remain in the wombs for an appointed time, and afterward We bring you forth as infants, then (give you growth) that ye attain your full strength. And among you there is he who dieth (young), and among you there is he who is brought back to the most abject time of life, so that, after knowledge, he knoweth naught.) (Al-Hajj 22:5)"

"(Verily We created man from a product of wet earth. Then placed him as a drop (of seed) in a safe lodging; Then fashioned We the drop a clot, then fashioned We the clot a little lump, then fashioned We the little lump bones, then clothed the bones with flesh, and then produced it another creation. So blessed be Allah, the Best of Creators!) (Al-Mu'minun 23:12-14)"


LMAO..i love to keep such traps around.....make sure you ppl actually know ur stuff...or to get the questions i want....sorry...bad habit....

 

[diamonddrago]

final abstract of your content i think , no evil no life and people of goods are puppets. then why god punish for their evilness
as you said,

world need,

rapes
wars
child abuse
murders

to achieve our goals.......

all these sins has a reason,god plan them and used some souls to get that plan done and finally put them in hell. nice theory totally shocked and lol

lol...nope that is not the context of what i am saying.....

If God forced us all to be good....or tailored made us to all be good...and all be Muslims....THEN we would be just puppets....

if you had the lust and desires....and if we fought those off.....and remained good out of our own free will....that is called being a real man....

God created everyone equally....with equal amounts of good/evil thoughts.....and we are also given parents who help in some way to make us good people....and love and care they give...also helps us be good....

if after all this you go out and hurt someone.....two things happen....

the person who suffered because of you....is tested...if he/she forgives....then they get rewarded for being good.....and if you repent the proper way you can be forgiven too...otherwise you get punished...in the worst ways in hell....

calling God evil for punishing your bad deeds.....is selfish and stupid.....God gave you free will for a reason.....its a two edge sword....

 

[AncientGlory]

I think you missed my question???

Let me rephrase the question.

For Christians it is common sense that their GOD is the one GOD.
For Hindus it is common sense that Brahma is the ultimate GOD.
For pestafarians it is common sense that FSM is the creator.

They all believe that there cannot be many GODS but only one GOD. But each claim that their definition of the GOD is the correct one.

If GOD is one, and if all the theist religions are correct(Each claim this) then it must be that everyone's worshiping the same GOD. That is Allah, Christian GOD and the FSM is the same. This claim is based upon the fact that no party can prove or disprove that their GOD is the true one.

However it can be seen that there are claims saying Allah is the true GOD. It is ok to believe there can be only one GOD, but why do you believe the one GOD is Allah? It can be also FSM.

 

[brave]

I think you missed my question???

i dont know ur an atheist or not but tell me how u prove (without using science)that god not exist.

 

[Mujaahid]

i dont know ur an atheist or not but tell me how u prove (without using science)that god not exist.

without using science why is that??

i think that poor understanding of the nature and its behavior is the reason for create a concept like god.

but if ask you some question like?

how long this world began? what is the age of creation?
does god has a shape?
who create god?
what exist before the creation?

im sure any muslim can't give direct answers.

creator is a creation of human mind

 

[brave]

without using science why is that??

i think that poor understanding of the nature and its behavior is the reason for create a concept like god.

but if ask you some question like?

how long this world began? what is the age of creation?
does god has a shape?
who create god?
what exist before the creation?

im sure any muslim can't give direct answers.

creator is a creation of human mind

are u an athiest?