Churches that need to be removed!

[chirantha7777]

Ok, I'm really sick of hearing this.... Now here is the problem! There are so many Christian Religions!!! Most of these religions are single churches run by people called PASTORS. PASTORS are people! JUST people! who run the religion to get money and power from the other countries such as Canada and US.

Recently, I've heard many children dying because these PASTORS trying to HEAL people without medicine! Then I've heard these Christians backed by pastors attacking Buddhists, Breaking Buddha Statues, and media reporters.

Elakiri members, I beg of you to understand that Catholics are NOT in the same system as these PASTOR churches!

Pastors are just people who have no educational qualification and run these churches to be rich and to have power through the people that come to it. Soon all the people in those churches get brain washed by the pastors! They worship the pastor! Not God! And soon do anything the pastor tells them too! (Even sacrifice there own child)

Most people and places (hospitals, banks, police stations etc.) respect these PASTORS! WHY!?! They are just people who brainwash others! There are now Reverent Pastors! they have placed the name on themselves!

Catholics on the other hand is lead by Reverent Fathers! who spend 8 Years in the seminary and 2 more years as Brothers in which time they learn to understand people and commit their lives to the religion! Also the Catholic church has an administrative system unlike these pastors who run the whole church by themselves under his/her own law!

Please do not confuse these two! Pastors and Fathers! It is time Sri Lankan's rose against these Pastor based religions! They disrespect people and other religions! Kill children! Attack Children and people in other religions! They dirt the name of Religion! and people also think Catholics are a part of these things! They are not!

I'm sure this topic would be attacked by these pastors and people who have been brainwashed by them! Haha it just proves now evil fill they are!

 

[chamira85]

100% Agree!!!

Good Idea to share with others, 5% of Catholic Fathers have PhD, most of the others have at least two Degrees (Theology and Philosophy)

 

[Mal Aiyya]

Now what do you suggest to be done?

Remove? Its not like moving out a piece from Lego

 

[rustyc]

dude you seem to have got the wrong impression about the the way christains run their system.

first of all
as you said there *are* pasters who use Christianity for their own benifits.
but still there is a certain percentage of pasters who work in rural areas and they work *with* the christain movement.
reason for these pasters to work in this way is that the christain church do not have enough funds to raise new churches in those rural areas.
so they appoint pasters who sometimes conduct services and other religious activities in a house with a small number of followers.

so one can't accuse directly saying that all the pasters are money mongers..

 

[unicornx]

Me too agree!

 

[chirantha7777]

dude you seem to have got the wrong impression about the the way christains run their system.

first of all
as you said there *are* pasters who use Christianity for their own benifits.
but still there is a certain percentage of pasters who work in rural areas and they work *with* the christain movement.
reason for these pasters to work in this way is that the christain church do not have enough funds to raise new churches in those rural areas.
so they appoint pasters who sometimes conduct services and other religious activities in a house with a small number of followers.

so one can't accuse directly saying that all the pasters are money mongers..

pastors are something more than just money mongers, as Jesus said "Leave everything behind and join me" but pastors join to "get everything".

Listen, pastors have no commitment. Anyone can become a pastor! ANYONE (Even me! )! Just read the bible that's all! That doesn't make anyone fit to lead a flock! Because experience! That is why the Apostles were called the FOLLOWERS of Jesus! They followed the Mesaya (Son of God), they learned from him! They too made mistakes but Jesus was there to correct them! Here pastors have no one to correct them (And they don't want to be)! Stubbornness is something every human has! But without commitment they cannot "overcome it".

Tell me who manages the funds of these pastor churches? NONE! Its a known fact that pastors get a salary increment for every member they get!

Recently a Aunty I know told that her son is a pastor and that he doesn't earn a cent (he doesn't even do a job)! Then I asked her, as to how she is leaving in a 4 story mansion and this "PASTOR" is driving a Terrious, then she was quiet, she said "people give!" then I said "Yes, people give, people whom your son brainwashed doesn't give a cent! they give a million!)

Also have you ever seen Catholic Church (Church of England did it, but not the catholic church) people go door to door asking people to read a book and join their religion!? Religion is not simple as a book (though words are powerful than the English sword)! I personally chase all the pastor people who come to our house with a broom stick! They disgrace the meaning of religion! they try to convert Buddhists by giving them food and money! At the end, others think Catholics are a part of this as well!

 

[Diego97]

pastors are something more than just money mongers, as Jesus said "Leave everything behind and join me" but pastors join to "get everything".

Listen, pastors have no commitment. Anyone can become a pastor! ANYONE (Even me! )! Just read the bible that's all! That doesn't make anyone fit to lead a flock! Because experience! That is why the Apostles were called the FOLLOWERS of Jesus! They followed the Mesaya (Son of God), they learned from him! They too made mistakes but Jesus was there to correct them! Here pastors have no one to correct them (And they don't want to be)! Stubbornness is something every human has! But without commitment they cannot "overcome it".

Tell me who manages the funds of these pastor churches? NONE! Its a known fact that pastors get a salary increment for every member they get!

Recently a Aunty I know told that her son is a pastor and that he doesn't earn a cent (he doesn't even do a job)! Then I asked her, as to how she is leaving in a 4 story mansion and this "PASTOR" is driving a Terrious, then she was quiet, she said "people give!" then I said "Yes, people give, people whom your son brainwashed doesn't give a cent! they give a million!)

Also have you ever seen Catholic Church (Church of England did it, but not the catholic church) people go door to door asking people to read a book and join their religion!? Religion is not simple as a book (though words are powerful than the English sword)! I personally chase all the pastor people who come to our house with a broom stick! They disgrace the meaning of religion! they try to convert Buddhists by giving them food and money! At the end, others think Catholics are a part of this as well!

 

[rustyc]

pastors are something more than just money mongers, as Jesus said "Leave everything behind and join me" but pastors join to "get everything".

Listen, pastors have no commitment. Anyone can become a pastor! ANYONE (Even me! )! Just read the bible that's all! That doesn't make anyone fit to lead a flock! Because experience! That is why the Apostles were called the FOLLOWERS of Jesus! They followed the Mesaya (Son of God), they learned from him! They too made mistakes but Jesus was there to correct them! Here pastors have no one to correct them (And they don't want to be)! Stubbornness is something every human has! But without commitment they cannot "overcome it".

Tell me who manages the funds of these pastor churches? NONE! Its a known fact that pastors get a salary increment for every member they get!

Recently a Aunty I know told that her son is a pastor and that he doesn't earn a cent (he doesn't even do a job)! Then I asked her, as to how she is leaving in a 4 story mansion and this "PASTOR" is driving a Terrious, then she was quiet, she said "people give!" then I said "Yes, people give, people whom your son brainwashed doesn't give a cent! they give a million!)

Also have you ever seen Catholic Church (Church of England did it, but not the catholic church) people go door to door asking people to read a book and join their religion!? Religion is not simple as a book (though words are powerful than the English sword)! I personally chase all the pastor people who come to our house with a broom stick! They disgrace the meaning of religion! they try to convert Buddhists by giving them food and money! At the end, others think Catholics are a part of this as well!

read my previous post
i clearly mentioned that there is a part of them who use the religion for there own benifit.
i never denied it

all i said was even the church do appoint certain pasters to many rural and remote areas with a salary or a payment for them to over come the difficulty which i mentioned in the previous post

and my point was you pointing the fingure at all the pasters is not fair enough because there are people who do there job because they believe in what they believe

please don't misinterpret what i said.

also Christianity is not just catholic
so one can not say everything against catholic laws and regulations are christianity.

 

[chirantha7777]

read my previous post
i clearly mentioned that there is a part of them who use the religion for there own benifit.
i never denied it

all i said was even the church do appoint certain pasters to many rural and remote areas with a salary or a payment for them to over come the difficulty which i mentioned in the previous post

and my point was you pointing the fingure at all the pasters is not fair enough because there are people who do there job because they believe in what they believe

please don't misinterpret what i said.

also Christianity is not just catholic
so one can not say everything against catholic laws and regulations are christianity.

also Christianity is not just catholic

It is this exact parse that causes people to attack the Catholic Church for the actions of these pastors

church do appoint certain pasters to many rural and remote areas with a salary or a payment for them to over come the difficulty

Right, tell me, why does these people need the word pastor? how can one judge that this person is fit for such a post? And also you cannot deny that most of these pastors are created by their relations in these Christians organizations which is why no one can correct or point out their mistakes

i clearly mentioned that there is a part of them who use the religion for there own benifit.

I help people, I have been to the worlds end trying to make the lives of others better, I have put my life on the line for others. But I do not consider my self a pastor! Why should I? I know I cannot commit were my priorities change! No one should need a title to help others unless he/she is in it for a big thumping salary which is why I say! PASTORS SHOULD NOT BE RESPECTED.

 

[rustyc]

It is this exact parse that causes people to attack the Catholic Church for the actions of these pastors

well,we have to face it!
people have taken the wrong idea that entire christain society consists of catholics,which is a very big mistake.and that is mainly because most of the high authorities call christains as කතෝලික බැතිමතුන් instead of කිතුනු බැතිමතුන්.

the entire christain society consists of many groups,
eg:catholic,methodist,anglican...etc
and amongst these groups there are some groups (or better to call them cults) who pretend to be christain and believe in god for the own benifits (this is the kind you are speaking of,which is a very small percentage of the vast christain society

Right, tell me, why does these people need the word pastor? how can one judge that this person is fit for such a post? And also you cannot deny that most of these pastors are created by their relations in these Christians organizations which is why no one can correct or point out their mistakes

pastor, preacher,brother w/e it is people call does it make a difference?
unless for people like you who just shout out!
some people call their mother ammi,some amma,some mom...
its just like that
hope you get my point

I help people, I have been to the worlds end trying to make the lives of others better, I have put my life on the line for others. But I do not consider my self a pastor! Why should I? I know I cannot commit were my priorities change! No one should need a title to help others unless he/she is in it for a big thumping salary which is why I say! PASTORS SHOULD NOT BE RESPECTED.

technically its out of the question for a non believer to ask "why is that guy called that way"
you maybe a person who help others
but if its good enough to call the head of the church a reverand, i don't see a mistake in calling a head of some congregation in a specific name or rank.

its just like a leader of a team is called captain.
again back to my point
only the fake pasters call them selves as pasters/brothers or w/e you call it
but if the church appoint them they are automatically called that way.

and all the time i only said that its not fair to banish all the pastor with the wrong impression on them,
all of them are not fake.some do their duties according to their believes.

it would be best for you to try to understand the system with in the christain church first, which would help you to understand the whole situation

 

[chirantha7777]

well,we have to face it!
people have taken the wrong idea that entire christain society consists of catholics,which is a very big mistake.and that is mainly because most of the high authorities call christains as කතෝලික බැතිමතුන් instead of කිතුනු බැතිමතුන්.

Why not just address it and remove these pastors? they are not respected by the GOSL as priests anyway.

the entire christain society consists of many groups,
eg:catholic,methodist,anglican...etc
and amongst these groups there are some groups (or better to call them cults) who pretend to be christain and believe in god for the own benifits (this is the kind you are speaking of,which is a very small percentage of the vast christain society

Small? I don't think so. The word PASTOR means a normal man with knowledge about a religion! They can do whatever they want! and there is no administration system to control it. Listen, a pastor even sent 11 teenagers to prison and commented like this... here is proof http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2pP7LV5vG4

pastor, preacher,brother w/e it is people call does it make a difference?
unless for people like you who just shout out!
some people call their mother ammi,some amma,some mom...
its just like that
hope you get my point

This is exactly the opposite of what I'm trying make you understand..... can a child call the next door woman "ammi" just because she gives the child candy? How can this woman know what we call "Daru kakuma"... only a mother that gave birth has the "Daru kakuma" because she "committed her life". As they say "thaman ge de thaman ta withari watinne". Also, I talked about priority! If given a choice, can another mother EVER take the side of another child over her own? So the say "Horage ammagen pena ahanawa wage wadak"

technically its out of the question for a non believer to ask "why is that guy called that way"
you maybe a person who help others
but if its good enough to call the head of the church a reverand, i don't see a mistake in calling a head of some congregation in a specific name or rank.

its just like a leader of a team is called captain.

Really, lets look at an example..... A captain! right.... what happens when a new comer to the sport gets a captain position because his dad is the head of the selection committee? And his mother is the head of whole club? No one to complain, no one to object

You still fail to understand what others in the country have understood maybe because you looking through a glass that reflects your image on it.

try to understand the system with in the christain church first

I know system very well thank you, no one has control over anyone! There are no breaks, there are no speed limits, and most of all there is no steering wheel . No wonder why the whole thing is a mess! No wonder I'm here typing this post! NO WONDER no one is responsible for the cries of mothers who's child has been murdered by these "Pastors"

Exchanging comments with you is also much like "Horage ammagen pena ahanawa wage wadak" also

 

[rustyc]

Why not just address it and remove these pastors? they are not respected by the GOSL as priests anyway.

lol
who are you talking to?me?
yes the fakes should be removed,but how ?
kill all of the pastor?
just like the catholic church burned many scientists at the stake after condemning them as witches?
if that happens what happens to the responsible ones who ain't fake (regardless of the fact that you do not believe there are certain people who have been appointed by legal authorities of the christain chruch itself)

now i'm gonna be the traitor once i say this,but here is the bitter thruth
ain't there a single corrupted buddist monk with this all one monks around the world?
are you gonna clean the corrupted?
(if you say yes why do they still excist? if you say no what the hell are you wasting your time on trying to clean a whole different religious movement which you don't even believe in if you can't keep ya own movement or any path {if thats what you call it} clean and tidy )

Small? I don't think so. The word PASTOR means a normal man with knowledge about a religion! They can do whatever they want! and there is no administration system to control it. Listen, a pastor even sent 11 teenagers to prison and commented like this... here is proof http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2pP7LV5vG4

lol
your thinking won't make a change buddy
its just you accept reality and step foot towards the light.
it is a small percentage and thats how it always have been.just because you see a few hundred of these selfish money mongers doesn't mean that you've seen the majority of the christain movement.

and whats ya point with the link?
i've all ready said that there are people who miss use system.so why keep jabbering about it?

This is exactly the opposite of what I'm trying make you understand..... can a child call the next door woman "ammi" just because she gives the child candy? How can this woman know what we call "Daru kakuma"... only a mother that gave birth has the "Daru kakuma" because she "committed her life". As they say "thaman ge de thaman ta withari watinne". Also, I talked about priority! If given a choice, can another mother EVER take the side of another child over her own? So the say "Horage ammagen pena ahanawa wage wadak"


Really, lets look at an example..... A captain! right.... what happens when a new comer to the sport gets a captain position because his dad is the head of the selection committee? And his mother is the head of whole club? No one to complain, no one to object

keep bringing out facts based on ma words instead of real life reality
it won't help any of us,neither you nor me.so pointless continuing the conversation with someone who looks at a situation much like an extremist.

You still fail to understand what others in the country have understood
maybe because you looking through a glass that reflects your image on it.

i know perfectly well about what i'm talking and where i stand.
maybe i haven't failed after all
maybe you're started to point a finger at me just for the sake of trying to challenge something which most people turn there backs on.

I know system very well thank you, no one has control over anyone! There are no breaks, there are no speed limits, and most of all there is no steering wheel . No wonder why the whole thing is a mess! No wonder I'm here typing this post! NO WONDER no one is responsible for the cries of mothers who's child has been murdered by these "Pastors"

Exchanging comments with you is also much like "Horage ammagen pena ahanawa wage wadak" also

till now i too believed that you might have had some idea about what you are talking.too bad you are in the same boat as all the others who speaks without knowing any facts.
the christain church has control on each and every believer on this planet.
there are rules and regulations
(but not against some fakes,because they are out of reach of the church laws)
(officials-thats what i call them and believers) have to follow certain law and regulations.

what you people do is instead of wiping the bad ones you guys just try to staughter all the christains just because they are not your kind.that just not fair. :|
"Horage ammagen pena ahanawa wage wadak" this part point at you too buddy
we both speak in this thread in behalf of two groups in the society,and we both are human,it is human nature to try to prove himself
so neither you nor me will stop bringing out facts.its all about trying to understand each others ideas

just because i din say that won't mean you ain't a "horage amma "
so think twice before you point a fingure.the other four are pointed towards you !!

i'm off this thread.hope i did something in trying to explain the situation (i know by now that you are not willing to be enlightened, atleast someone might be,someone who read this thread.

adios !!

 

[chirantha7777]

My Friends, this topic has indeed been useful. It just shows how these pastors and pastor churches lack control. When the whole pastor kind is blamed, pastors just say this "there are bad pastors! but I/we are not" and wash there hands... the bad just keep doing bad, protected under the word "pastor" and no one can stop them! Pastors should stop trying to help others and for once help themselves.

"Lokaye seyalu de dakna asata, thaman no penena lesata"... pastor can help everyone except a fellow pastor! Why? because pastor to pastor they know an Unknown person cannot advice another unknown person! But this is something a Reverent Father can and will!

In the end there is no one to blame, no one to talk or complain, no one to see. As Catholic's we can forgive, but how do we forgive those who don't accept there mistake or try to correct it?

I have confirmed everything I thought via this topic. I have proved to fellow Elakirians why these pastor religions do not deserve any right in the Sri Lankan society.

I pray everyday for God to intervene into these pastor religions and to remove this dirt from our country, which is a war I cannot fight alone. So far my prayers have been answered! And I have faith that these pastors will one day be no more than just humans with just the Sir name of Mr. or Mrs.

Queen Of Angels' - Pray for us
St. Anthony - Pray for us
St. Michael - Pray for us
Our Lady of Fatima - Pray for us
St. Joseph - Pray for us
St. Peter - Pray for us
St. Paul - Pray for us
St. Francis Xsavior - Pray for us