Who created God(Allah) ?

[AncientGlory]

When God is eternal, there is no way we have a history of 6000 years.

No way??? Why not? What does GOD being eternal and we(His creation) having a history of 6000 years got to do with each other? GOD was eternal. He was attending to his holy chores. And about 6000 years ago, he decided to create us. Is that logic hard for you to understand?

What was God doing all that time.

How is that relevant?

Do u think God does not have time but created time as well?

Time is a man made concept. GOD concept exists outside of time.

By the way which kind of creation are you talking about? islam, christianity or hindu?

I'm talking about creationism in generally.

I am bit curious about satan.was he created or he is same like God?

I have no idea. You should ask this question from a creationist.

 

[humanoid]

[[FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]Time is a man made concept. GOD concept exists outside of time.[/SIZE][/FONT]

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If any one exists outside the time, he must be dead.Any intelligent force needs time.
people should not believe in these types of concepts.:nerd:
 
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[humanoid]

something cannot be come out of nothing.
Some one cannot exist without time.when you die ,you quit the time & space.But you can come back to time & space when you are reborn.
creator must have the time & space.God has a heaven, then he has space & time.
when you die, no one is there to reward you punish.you merely cease to exist.If you come back, it is different.

 

[AncientGlory]

If any one exists outside the time, he must be dead.Any intelligent force needs time.
people should not believe in these types of concepts.

Buddha was the first person to speak of the relative nature of time, he said one day in a higher plane of existance(Ex: Brahma loka) would be like tens of thousands of days of earth, and hence hinted time is relative.
Eisenstein later explained in special theory of relativity time is relative. Saying any intelligent force needs time is just absurd because a relative entity cannot be real. Hence time is not real but a concept invented. Understanding this would be a first step in realizing the true nature of the universe.

 

[humanoid]

[[FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]Saying any intelligent force needs time is just absurd because a relative entity cannot be real. Hence time is not real but a concept invented. Understanding this would be a first step in realizing the true nature of the universe. [/SIZE][/FONT]/HTML]
 
time means past present & future.it is real. we existed, we are existing.we will be existing.

 

[AncientGlory]

time means past present & future.it is real. we existed, we are existing.we will be existing.

It has nothing to do with time. We don't grow old because of time. We grow old because things change. Change is the only constant thing. We use time as a measurement of change. It is not an easy concept to understand.

 

[AncientGlory]

something cannot be come out of nothing.
Some one cannot exist without time.when you die ,you quit the time & space.But you can come back to time & space when you are reborn.
creator must have the time & space.God has a heaven, then he has space & time.

These are all your assumptions. What we measure as time is the change of earth's position relative to sun. Time is relative, and if you can't even understand that how can you talk about space time?

 

[dilankandy]

These are all your assumptions. What we measure as time is the change of earth's position relative to sun. Time is relative, and if you can't even understand that how can you talk about space time?

Why so much arguments?? I got tired from all these crap and took a break. watched Supernatural. got addicted. didn't sleep for three days. finished all 5 series. looking forward to 6. has lots of perspectives. completely theism. Finally got my answer..

Chuck is not a prophet. He is the GOD!!!

 

[humanoid]

These are all your assumptions. What we measure as time is the change of earth's position relative to sun. Time is relative, 
and if you can't even understand that how can you talk about space time?

I am not talking about day & night or clock here
I am talking about past , present, future. According to religions, earth did not just pop up with humans.God created the earth stepwise.
Then God has the time to create the earth stepwise.
because people cannot understand the origin of the universe, they say universe was created.But creator is living all the time.
Origin of the universe is in infinite. end of the universe is in infinite.Borders of universe are in infinite.orgin of the time is in infinite.
end of the time is in infinite. space of the universe is infinite.Human brain cant figure it out.They only know they are in in infinite.
It is not the God who is in infinite.But the universe.

 

[humanoid]

බුදු දහම සංසාරය ගැන දේශානා කරන කොට ප්‍රකාශ කරා, ආනන්දය සංසාරයේ මුලක් සහ අගක් නොපෙනේ.නමුත් සංසාරයෙන් එතෙර වීමට මාර්ග ඇත.
විශ්වයත් මේ සංසාරය වගේ තමයි.ආරම්භයක්, අවසානයක් පෙනෙන්නේ නැත.කෙලවරක්ද නොපෙනේ. කාලයේ ආරම්භයක් හෝ අවසානයක් තිබෙන්නේ අනන්තයේ.

 

[humanoid]

සැමදා පවතින්නේ සංසාරය සහ විශ්වය මිස දෙවියන් නොවේ

 

[AncientGlory]

Why so much arguments?? I got tired from all these crap and took a break. watched Supernatural. got addicted. didn't sleep for three days. finished all 5 series. looking forward to 6. has lots of perspectives. completely theism. Finally got my answer..

Chuck is not a prophet. He is the GOD!!!

ha ha, well I just thought It would be interesting to talk about these things. Anyway, to be honest I don't like the later series of supernatural. But I too watched all the seasons. Season 1,2,3 are best.

 

[AncientGlory]

I am not talking about day & night or clock here
I am talking about past , present, future.

Past, present and future are just concepts invented to explain the various points of change. Two observers cannot agree about a simultaneouty of an incident unless they are in the same frame of reference. Time flows relative to the observer. I don't think I can explain this more than that, somethings you need to understand for yourself.

Origin of the universe is in infinite. end of the universe is in infinite.Borders of universe are in infinite.

How do you know?

orgin of the time is in infinite.

Origin of time is not infinite, It was a concept made by man, when he started to think and wanted a measurement for change. He invented it to measure change, but then later thought change happens because of time.

space of the universe is infinite.

How do you know?

Human brain cant figure it out.They only know they are in in infinite.

No one knows the boundaries of Universe. Saying it is infinite is just an assumption in your part.

It is not the God who is in infinite.But the universe.

No argument there.

But what you need to understand is that I'm not talking about whether GOD is there or not. I'm saying if we assume OMNIMAX GOD, then by definition he exits outside of time. If you say that everything is subject to time, that is poor understanding in your part. I suggest you read special thoery of relativity to get a better understanding.

 

[humanoid]

even if we destroyed earth & sun, this universe will have past ,present & future. even before humans invented time, they had past, present & future.
past- where things changed
present- where things are changing now
future- where things will be changing

if time is infinite, can you tell me the year universe or past orginated.

people kept GODs in this universe for centuries.In the past, even today some religions told us God is in the sky or heaven or on trees etc.But with the development of science , understanding, thinking, God cannot survive in the universe.Now they are trying to keep the Gods out of the universe to make him survive.

 

[I love Srilanka]

people kept GODs in this universe for centuries.In the past, even today some religions told us God is in the sky or heaven or on trees etc.]But with the development of science , understanding, thinking, God cannot survive in the universe.Now they are trying to keep the Gods out of the universe to make him survive.

It is not that God cant survive, it is appropriate to say your science cant survive apart from this universe, and your science incapability of finding the God. your science is very silly, it can't even can prove concretely at least whether God exist. in fact scientists them self differs on this issue.

 

[Pizziesta]

This is not true.God has a creator.according to this god is living here for more than trillion of years.more than that as he existed all the time.according to this god is living here for more than trillion of years.more than that as he existed all the time.If had atleast lived trillion of years ago from today,then god could have created the earth billions of years ago.
man could have achived today's technology millions years ago. but we had fair technological development only 100 years ago.therefore no way god existed trillion of years ago from today.this shows god was created.other wise those so called messengers from god could have come here billion of years ago.but they came here just 2000 years ago.By now we should be in hell or heaven if God was here for trillion years ago.
Muslims could have had judgment day billions years ago.
ලෝකය අල්ලේ නටවන්නම්.බම්බරය වැල්ලේ කරකන්නම්

Wonder from where you came across all these ideas

GOD ALMIGHTY is The Eternal, The Absolute! HE is not subjected to a time frame like we do.

Before our creation, it was Jinns who were on this earth for many years.

"Wasn’t there a long period of time before humans were even mentioned?" (76:1)

Humans were not even mentioned those time, meaning the creation of humans were not even discussed in any matter.

So humans were Created when God Almighty wanted. Not that it is inside a time frame.

 

[cd_akhila]

Wonder from where you came across all these ideas

it says that the allah created everything, doesn't that include the thoughts of him, and the "free will" it is the most intricate thing of the whole creation. I just can't understand that..

Before our creation, it was Jinns who were on this earth for many years.

"Wasn’t there a long period of time before humans were even mentioned?" (76:1)

can you please explain that who are these jinns, and please point to quran where it says exactly that the jinns inhabited the earth before man, and where are these jinns now..

 

[humanoid]

when allah is eternal, why would we see 1200yrs history for islam on earth?
allah would have created muslim humans.But that is not the case.I am sure allah did not create hindhus,catholics,buddhists etc.when why would allah keep us on his earth when we hate him,dont accept him.

 

[mensoft2003]

when allah is eternal, why would we see 1200yrs history for islam on earth?
allah would have created muslim humans.But that is not the case.I am sure allah did not create hindhus,catholics,buddhists etc.

And PIG Too......

 

[dilankandy]

And PIG Too......

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