10 Reasons Islam Is Not From God

[AncientGlory]

See anything can be answered; problem is whether it is logically answered. For example as I asked you falsification test to identify the true christians, can any Christians answered logically this??

I think you need to ask Christians whether they can answer this or not. But I can guarantee you that this will be answered somewhere. So it comes to the question can it be logically answered? Well yes, but the problem is who decides whether it is logical enough or not? For you all answers provided for errors in Bible are not logical enough. But that's your subjective view. For me answers provided for errors in quaran are not logical enough. That's my view. So we end up in the same place again. You say there are errors in bible. I say there are errors in quran. No one can decide whether they have been answered logically enough.
So again, you have your opinion that says bible is corrupted. But you can't prove it.

May be some parts are correct. What I was telling repeatedly that we are not going to follow a revelation which has even a minor corruption.

What I'm repeatedly trying to tell you is that, I'm not saying you should follow a revelation which even has a minor corruption. It is irrelevant. I'm just saying you can't say which parts are corrupted, so some parts in that revelation are true. Which gives the question maybe the part ExMuslimAhmed is providing is indeed true.

Then it is up to the people to decide, whether bible is correct or not. Maximum we can say it is wrong by showing proof.

No one has showed proof. People have only presented logic. And as a muslim you have a biased view so you think this is proof.

Ok. Even if I accept that part is correct for the sake of argument,

Good.

what I am asking from you or exmuslim ahmed, then why the same bible says about someone to come as mentioned below. Then bible contradict itself isn’t it.some one who says islam is not from God, 1st he has to clarify what is mentioned in the book he is showing proof from

Exmuslim hasn’t given a reply for this,as he is a moron. I’m expecting a reply from you.

This is not relevant to the point I am trying to make. I do not care whether bible contradict or not. You should ask this from a Christian.

Ok I understand your point. You r not here, for proving something. You are saying, Christians also answers for Muslims’ question, regardless of whether it is logically correct or not.

Then now it is up to the people to decide which is correct, only thing we can do is put forward the message and the proof

Not really. Some of the answers offer reasonable logic. For an example the answer I posted for your first error. It looked ok. But like I mentioned, who decides whether it is logical enough or not? Once again there has never been any proof.

Only part of the video posted here, I don’t know the reason why it was not posted full. this is the total video clip.

in the context, at the start he says standout for injustice, he doesn’t know what news is correct, every muslim should be terrorist the thing is that if someone is terrorizing the terrorist he is following islam also he says he is not for osama binladen. So it is very clear. He is not promoting terrorism.

If you don’t still agree with the intention of Dr.zakir you can see his another video below.

What Dr. Zakir says, all the muslims should be terrorist in the context of against the anti socials element. Not in context of terrorizing against the innocent people. Hope you understand.

If someone say plainly like that, it is of course wrong. What to be noted is what the context is. he is clearly says he is not for osama bin laden , then how he supports Al qaida.

As u say, If he really promoting terrorist, he is not going to say how to solve the problems of terrorism, isn’t it..see this video.

a terrorist will never ever solve the problem of terrorism.

I still did not get the chance to watch the full video. Will reply later.

 

[Y2K]

There are two categories of false prophets:

-Claimers following their own fancies and whims, seeking worldly gains of prestige, authority, or wealth
-Prominent personalities, over-magnified by their followers, who raise them to the status of prophets or semi-gods - is this your explanation ...... there is only one type false phophet that is he who dies Jesus as Son of God (certainly not son of allah)

Of the first category are those who invented or changed a creed without authority or supporting evidence from God. Examples are Paul and others, then followed by the Church, which reformulated Christianity against what Jesus stood for. Similarly in Islamic history, several claimants sought to ruin Islam from within, forming deviant sects like Qadianis, Baha’is and extreme Shiite sects such as the Ismailis.

Those who b'live in jesus christ all become one paul himself is the greatest miracle of Jesus


The second category includes several philosophers, scientists, clergy, and leaders, etc., who were considered almost inviolable prophets to be believed and followed unquestionably. Examples are Greek philosophers, Marx, Lenin, Darwin, Saints, Roman emperors and their modern counterparts of the so-called New World Order.

Here are some criteria for a true prophet:

1. He should bring signs or proofs that are far beyond human capacity. WHat sign you have seen from mohomed (PBUM)
2. His message should be shown to emanate from without himself.
3. He should carry his mission to the end in spite of all obstacles. (how can God's messenger kill thousands with showing no mercy?)

4. His message would be supported by God to victory over his enemies. (who are the God's enemies? )

Applying these criteria to the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), we find that the main proof he presented is a living miracle, the eternal word of God: the Quran. The Arabic text of the Quran challenges all generations to produce anything as perfect or splendorous
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OK if u dont accept the above,then now clarify me, what the same Bible refers to the following.

01-John chapter 14 verse 16:
"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever."
This is the spirit of God this truely live forever but Mohomed lived very short period of time

02-Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26:
"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me."

some people say Prophet life is not holy at all then how come his work testify God's work ? Mohomed married 9 year old girl, he has many wives. he kill millions.... wage war against unbeliever (Part of God's Creation bt they have freedom of choice) just think why they hate Christians so much?


03-Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7:
"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you". Yeah this the holy spirit Mohomed is not only a spirit he is just a normal human being right?

about whom Bible is talking here, if u say it is not about Mohammed, then you have to accept that the bible contradicting it self.by saying don't trust the prophets who come after jesus, and a comforter is to come after jesus.

for you bible is holy as far as it useful to show proof of Mohammed if not it is currupted ...wow what an idea sir gee

Give me the answer.

Hey Mr. Misunderstand Comforter is Holy spirit the one Qurun say one horrible sin bcause if you b'live Jesus you will be saved jesus doesn't say hey guys worship me i am your God instead he show us the way he show the God's love but some other GOD is like that our politicial they do not want people to be educated because if they knw the truth they will turn away from the darkness so they want us to be in the darkness forever

Even small child will know Lord Buddha , Jesus Christ are goos guys but those who kill people in the name of God or anything is the Anti-Christ because they violate the main rule of Jesus Christ "Love one another" but they Kill one another so Dission is yours

Sad thing abt you guys is you guys are not broad minded

 

[Y2K]

I think you need to ask Christians whether they can answer this or not. But I can guarantee you that this will be answered somewhere. So it comes to the question can it be logically answered? Well yes, but the problem is who decides whether it is logical enough or not? For you all answers provided for errors in Bible are not logical enough. But that's your subjective view. For me answers provided for errors in quaran are not logical enough. That's my view. So we end up in the same place again. You say there are errors in bible. I say there are errors in quran. No one can decide whether they have been answered logically enough.
So again, you have your opinion that says bible is corrupted. But you can't prove it. Ha ha Logical thinking ha .... common true christian is the one who follow Jesus Christ and follow his teaching (one last commandment is - "Love one another")

True Buddist - The one who have faith in Lord Buddha and follow his teachings so that's very simple man


What I'm repeatedly trying to tell you is that, I'm not saying you should follow a revelation which even has a minor corruption. It is irrelevant. I'm just saying you can't say which parts are corrupted, so some parts in that revelation are true. Which gives the question maybe the part ExMuslimAhmed is providing is indeed true.


No one has showed proof. People have only presented logic. And as a muslim you have a biased view so you think this is proof.


Good.


This is not relevant to the point I am trying to make. I do not care whether bible contradict or not. You should ask this from a Christian.


Not really. Some of the answers offer reasonable logic. For an example the answer I posted for your first error. It looked ok. But like I mentioned, who decides whether it is logical enough or not? Once again there has never been any proof.


I still did not get the chance to watch the full video. Will reply later.

 

[I love Srilanka]

I think you need to ask Christians whether they can answer this or not. But I can guarantee you that this will be answered somewhere. So it comes to the question can it be logically answered? Well yes, but the problem is who decides whether it is logical enough or not? For you all answers provided for errors in Bible are not logical enough. But that's your subjective view. For me answers provided for errors in quaran are not logical enough. That's my view. So we end up in the same place again. You say there are errors in bible. I say there are errors in quran. No one can decide whether they have been answered logically enough.
So again, you have your opinion that says bible is corrupted. But you can't prove it.

My dear friend, I have not put anything scientific mistake which is contained in bible to do the research & decide as to whether it is correct. for a simple mistake do u really think it has to be decided by some one to see whether it is logical, to me this question can be answered by anyone including a Montessori student, you may ask your kid even. of course he will answer and even he may make fun of you saying "is this a question dad'?......

What I'm repeatedly trying to tell you is that, I'm not saying you should follow a revelation which even has a minor corruption. It is irrelevant. I'm just saying you can't say which parts are corrupted, so some parts in that revelation are true. Which gives the question maybe the part ExMuslimAhmed is providing is indeed true.

in Islam there is no place for "may be". So that, I'm not going to stick with his claim unless & until some one prove me this particular part is not corrupted and my counter question(contradicting msg of bible) is being answered.

No one has showed proof. People have only presented logic. And as a muslim you have a biased view so you think this is proof.

you may keep on skipping on some complicated issues such as scientific facts, for something which i mentioned above requires any logic? i dont think so. i'm sorry I disagree with you. I am not biased. I am a muslim, a muslim is not allowed to do so in under any circumstances.



This is not relevant to the point I am trying to make. I do not care whether bible contradict or not. You should ask this from a Christian.

So you should not be backing exmuslim ahmed unless you have idea about what he is saying and answer for my questions.. at least as you are arguing with me for exmuslims claim, you should have pushed exmulsim to answer my counter questions to have healthy discussion here, but nothing happed. as ever i doubt your intention. I hope u are not pulling my leg...

Not really. Some of the answers offer reasonable logic. For an example the answer I posted for your first error. It looked ok. But like I mentioned, who decides whether it is logical enough or not? Once again there has never been any proof.

refer again my earlier answers, come on man!!..can some one here dare to prove, being alive even after by drinking a poison..people who have common sense can answer this and also, not going to attempt this test even..I dont think logical proof is required here...

I still did not get the chance to watch the full video. Will reply later.

I was under the impression that, you have watched many videos of Dr.Zakir and that is why claiming that he is promoting terrorism..oh.really u didn't watch ....Ah Ok...Hope now u will watch & come back to me..Can i expect you will change your opinion or just to stick with your old opinion as ego prevent to accept that u made a mistake.
anyway up to u...and all the best!!...

 

[I love Srilanka]

is this your explanation ...... there is only one type false phophet that is he who dies Jesus as Son of God (certainly not son of allah)

First of all, you dont know what is the meaning of Allah...Allah arabic words means GOD in english..Jesus is not son of God , God spoke him saying Son of God thats old..


01-John chapter 14 verse 16:
"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever."

This is the spirit of God this truely live forever but Mohomed lived very short period of time

prophecy clearly says that only if Jesus (pbuh) departs will the Comforter come. The Bible states that the Holy Spirit was already present on earth before and during the time of Jesus (pbuh), in the womb of Elizabeth, and again when Jesus (pbuh) was being baptised, etc...how can u prove now?

02-Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26:
"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me."

some people say Prophet life is not holy at all then how come his work testify God's work ? Mohomed married 9 year old girl, he has many wives. he kill millions.... wage war against unbeliever (Part of God's Creation bt they have freedom of choice) just think why they hate Christians so much?

People may say anything have u ever done research, dont pinpoint on some one without checking it. how can cease him to be prophet by having many wives. is there any norm u should marry only one..have checked up the reason for marrying 9years old.yeah of course he fought against oppressors.this is what your missionaries teach you, you just blindly trust them without checking in to details why he married and why he fought.


03-Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7:
"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you". Yeah this the holy spirit Mohomed is not only a spirit he is just a normal human being right?

about whom Bible is talking here, if u say it is not about Mohammed, then you have to accept that the bible contradicting it self.by saying don't trust the prophets who come after jesus, and a comforter is to come after jesus.

for you bible is holy as far as it useful to show proof of Mohammed if not it is currupted ...wow what an idea sir gee

We don't want any proof from your bible to show mohammed is final prophet.our claim is part of the bible is corrupted. and even your current bible refers about prophet mohammed even after fabrication..


Give me the answer.
Hey Mr. Misunderstand Comforter is Holy spirit the one Qurun say one horrible sin bcause if you b'live Jesus you will be saved jesus doesn't say hey guys worship me i am your God instead he show us the way he show the God's love but some other GOD is like that our politicial they do not want people to be educated because if they knw the truth they will turn away from the darkness so they want us to be in the darkness forever

Yes this is what Prophet mohammed said, then Jesus and mohammed was doing the same job, then they are called as prophets of God, as brought the msg of God..then how come you call it Jesus as son of God..As Jews rejected Jesus, you rejected Mohammed.

Muslim is a person who submits his will to Allah.
Jesus (pbuh) said, "not my will but thy will be done." i.e. Muslim.
John 5:30

Really? this quotation is said by us to Christians normally, Christian missionaries normally dont want their followers to know the real picture, neither Christians read their scriptures even.[/SIZE][/COLOR]

Even small child will know Lord Buddha , Jesus Christ are goos guys but those who kill people in the name of God or anything is the Anti-Christ because they violate the main rule of Jesus Christ "Love one another" but they Kill one another so Dission is yours

Just bec some muslim kills some one, necessarily will not prove Islam is wrong. neither i'm going say Christianity is wrong just bec a christian Hitler Killed millions of jews people..if you dont keep on loving me and call for a fight and invade my home can i keep on loving you forever, that is the time, at times, muslim wanted fight against opressor.learn the Islam History without putting the blames without any knowledge.

Sad thing abt you guys is you guys are not broad minded

Wat made u so..Imagination??? typical Christians..dont have any logic, this is what they say finally.

 

[Y2K]

is this your explanation ...... there is only one type false phophet that is he who dies Jesus as Son of God (certainly not son of allah)

correction it should be "he who denies jesus christ"

Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist--he denies the Father and the Son.- 1 John 2:22


First of all, you dont know what is the meaning of Allah...Allah arabic words means GOD in english..Jesus is not son of God , God spoke him saying Son of God thats old..


Hey man I said Jesus is not Allah's son means because Allah or Muslims denies that Jesus is son of god they try to states some friendly verses but on the other hand distroying his true indentity? do not forget why Jesus condemn to death ..... like you guys now in jesus times some people didnt b'liv in Jesus they also said jesus is not son of god ...man can not be son of god lot of things like that

do not think i am youtube guy I posted this video to show you that there were people like you those days as well now i am sure you will come up with some other arguement



01-John chapter 14 verse 16:
"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever."

This is the spirit of God this truely live forever but Mohomed lived very short period of time

prophecy clearly says that only if Jesus (pbuh) departs will the Comforter come. The Bible states that the Holy Spirit was already present on earth before and during the time of Jesus (pbuh), in the womb of Elizabeth, and again when Jesus (pbuh) was being baptised, etc...how can u prove now?

Then how can you say what bible say is abt Prophet Mohomed ... ha ha ha

02-Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26:
"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me."

some people say Prophet life is not holy at all then how come his work testify God's work ? Mohomed married 9 year old girl, he has many wives. he kill millions.... wage war against unbeliever (Part of God's Creation bt they have freedom of choice) just think why they hate Christians so much?

People may say anything have u ever done research, dont pinpoint on some one without checking it. how can cease him to be prophet by having many wives. is there any norm u should marry only one..have checked up the reason for marrying 9years old.yeah of course he fought against oppressors.this is what your missionaries teach you, you just blindly trust them without checking in to details why he married and why he fought.

I do not want to question abt Prophet Mohomed human rights ... or personel life ..... Jesus said you can't serve two master I mean one side worldy plesure others side God .... am i right brother? A Phophet should live Holy life (SHould not have sex with anyone ) you tell me quran ask muslim to kill jews and christians and unbelievers this is totally different now i am sure you will say that this has been said in a war situation even then question remains the same coz all other religion teaches us to love one another wage no war against your brother bt Allah instructed Muslims to kill jews and christians ? (funny thing is that people also his creation) please explain it to me brother I do not want to insult your God or anyother ok

Remember if Jews Soilders came to arrest Prohpet Mohamed then there would have been a great war that's for sure but in Jesus case he said to deciples not to fight


03-Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7:
"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you". Yeah this the holy spirit Mohomed is not only a spirit he is just a normal human being right?

about whom Bible is talking here, if u say it is not about Mohammed, then you have to accept that the bible contradicting it self.by saying don't trust the prophets who come after jesus, and a comforter is to come after jesus.

for you bible is holy as far as it useful to show proof of Mohammed if not it is currupted ...wow what an idea sir gee

We don't want any proof from your bible to show mohammed is final prophet.our claim is part of the bible is corrupted. and even your current bible refers about prophet mohammed even after fabrication..

if that verse is all abt Phophet Mohammed then Bible is defenetely currepted (bt truth it isn't ) Forget abt Old testiment Just look at life of jesus you will understand it better this verse is not abt Mohamed muslims are gone out of their own boundries Dr.Zukir even said Next Bhuddha will be Phophet Mohamed (forgetting that Buddha doesn't even b;live in God Concept) I think this example is more than enough to understand how muslims have gone mad

If you act according to the holy spirit you can not kill others, wage wars even in the name of God ... Bible clear mention the fruits of the Holy Spirit .... then how would be the Quran so called sprit of god instruct people to kill ??

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

– Galatians 5:22-23, KJV



Give me the answer.
Hey Mr. Misunderstand Comforter is Holy spirit the one Qurun say one horrible sin bcause if you b'live Jesus you will be saved jesus doesn't say hey guys worship me i am your God instead he show us the way he show the God's love but some other GOD is like that our politicial they do not want people to be educated because if they knw the truth they will turn away from the darkness so they want us to be in the darkness forever

Yes this is what Prophet mohammed said, then Jesus and mohammed was doing the same job, then they are called as prophets of God, as brought the msg of God..then how come you call it Jesus as son of God..As Jews rejected Jesus, you rejected Mohammed.

Because he said so ..... he himself ok but Mohamned doesn't knw who is the one who whispering to his ears


Muslim is a person who submits his will to Allah.
Jesus (pbuh) said, "not my will but thy will be done." i.e. Muslim.
John 5:30

Father : SON ; Holy sprit
Jesus true nature is Fatherhood that's why he made such a statement

Really? this quotation is said by us to Christians normally, Christian missionaries normally dont want their followers to know the real picture, neither Christians read their scriptures even.[/SIZE][/COLOR]

Even small child will know Lord Buddha , Jesus Christ are goos guys but those who kill people in the name of God or anything is the Anti-Christ because they violate the main rule of Jesus Christ "Love one another" but they Kill one another so Dission is yours

Just bec some muslim kills some one, necessarily will not prove Islam is wrong. neither i'm going say Christianity is wrong just bec a christian Hitler Killed millions of jews people..if you dont keep on loving me and call for a fight and invade my home can i keep on loving you forever, that is the time, at times, muslim wanted fight against opressor.learn the Islam History without putting the blames without any knowledge.

Hilter is not God messenger or anything being is parent Christian doesnt mean he is a christian but your story is different my friend there is no way ourt

Sad thing abt you guys is you guys are not broad minded

Wat made u so..Imagination??? typical Christians..dont have any logic, this is what they say finally.

Typical muslims always think like that for them others are fools, unbelivers
what a religion of peace

 

[ex-muslim Ahmed]

I do not want to question abt Prophet Mohomed human rights ... or personel life ..... Jesus said you can't serve two master I mean one side worldy plesure others side God .... am i right brother? A Phophet should live Holy life (SHould not have sex with anyone ) you tell me quran ask muslim to kill jews and christians and unbelievers this is totally different now i am sure you will say that this has been said in a war situation even then question remains the same coz all other religion teaches us to love one another wage no war against your brother bt Allah instructed Muslims to kill jews and christians ? (funny thing is that people also his creation) please explain it to me brother I do not want to insult your God or anyother ok

Remember if Jews Soilders came to arrest Prohpet Mohamed then there would have been a great war that's for sure but in Jesus case he said to deciples not to fight

 

[I love Srilanka]

Hey man I said Jesus is not Allah's son means because Allah or Muslims denies that Jesus is son of god they try to states some friendly verses but on the other hand distroying his true indentity? do not forget why Jesus condemn to death ..... like you guys now in jesus times some people didnt b'liv in Jesus they also said jesus is not son of god ...man can not be son of god lot of things like that


I advise you to give some proof when u provide something here. Now Give me what is the proof for Jesus Being God of Son...

do not think i am youtube guy I posted this video to show you that there were people like you those days as well now i am sure you will come up with some other arguement

I cant see your Youtube, you didnt giv the link properly.


Then how can you say what bible say is abt Prophet Mohomed ... ha ha ha

Then Whoelse can It be? if anyone came as prophet after Jesus other than Mohammed who is followed by majority of people?

In your original bible you can see Jesus was Muslim,..see the following.


Evidence from the English translation of Luke 6:40 that further prove that the word 'Muslim' was used by Jesus:

Luke 6:40 (KJV)
40 The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.

Luke 6:40 (Darby)
40 The disciple is not above his teacher, but every one that is perfected shall be as his teacher.

Luke 6:40 (Young's Literal Translation)
40 A disciple is not above his teacher, but every one perfected shall be as his teacher.

Luke 6:40 (21st Century King James Version)
40 The disciple is not above his master, but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.

Luke 6:40 (American Standard Version)
40 The disciple is not above his teacher: but every one when he is perfected shall be as his teacher.

The perfection here means a spiritual one. What the verse is saying is that knowledge is not what matters! The teacher or master is higher in knowledge than his student. But the student can be as high as his teacher, or even higher, by being a true 'MUSHLAM' or Muslim, a spiritually perfect and well-disciplined person!

"Ein talmeed na'leh 'al rabbo; shekken kal adam she'MUSHLAM yihyeh k'rabbo."


Also,If you refer to Song of Solomon in Hebrew scripture, the name 'Muhammad' also mention there, please read Song of Solomon 5:16, it looks like this:


"Hikow mamtaqiym wkulow mahamadiym zeh dowdiy wzeh ree`iy bnowt yruushaalaaim."

I do not want to question abt Prophet Mohomed human rights ... or personel life ..... Jesus said you can't serve two master I mean one side worldy plesure others side God .... am i right brother? A Phophet should live Holy life (SHould not have sex with anyone ) you tell me quran ask muslim to kill jews and christians and unbelievers this is totally different now i am sure you will say that this has been said in a war situation even then question remains the same coz all other religion teaches us to love one another wage no war against your brother bt Allah instructed Muslims to kill jews and christians ? (funny thing is that people also his creation) please explain it to me brother I do not want to insult your God or anyother ok

are u saying Prophet moahmed married more than a wife for worldly pleasure, see a person may have worldly pleasure by doing so many things. why u guys labeling prophet married more than one wife just for a pleasure, person who has addiction of girls need not marry and have pleasure, even without marrying he could have had pleasure with girls if he would have wanted. but for some reason as requested by Allah, he married so.i dont want to go in to more details about the reason if we want we will discuss later in a seperate thread.

if that verse is all abt Phophet Mohammed then Bible is defenetely currepted (bt truth it isn't ) Forget abt Old testiment Just look at life of jesus you will understand it better this verse is not abt Mohamed muslims are gone out of their own boundries Dr.Zukir even said Next Bhuddha will be Phophet Mohamed (forgetting that Buddha doesn't even b;live in God Concept) I think this example is more than enough to understand how muslims have gone mad

The versus which I gave all of them from new testament.if we go out of boundaries. then u have to say what is that talking abt???..I dont clearly understand what u meant.I hope u have misunderstood about what Dr.Zakir Said, buddha means only Preacher.

If you act according to the holy spirit you can not kill others, wage wars even in the name of God ... Bible clear mention the fruits of the Holy Spirit .... then how would be the Quran so called sprit of god instruct people to kill ??
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
– Galatians 5:22-23, KJV

Quran Never told us to wage war. you simply blaming islam for what their followers currently do. if it is so, christians never fought with anyone in the history of the world?

Because he said so ..... he himself ok but Mohamned doesn't knw who is the one who whispering to his ears

Any proof? or Just imagination by u all.

Father : SON ; Holy sprit
Jesus true nature is Fatherhood that's why he made such a statement

Bible does not support the Christian belief in trinity at all.

"Shama Israelu Adonai Ila Hayno Adonai Ikhad."

This is a Hebrew quotation, which means:

"Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord." [The Bible, Mark 12:29]

How could u guys follow & imagine some thing which was not said by bible.ridiculous!!

Hilter is not God messenger or anything being is parent Christian doesnt mean he is a christian but your story is different my friend there is no way ourt

I gave Hitler Example for the quotation muslim kills in the name of God..if u r saying it is Prophet mohammed killed innocent people.then I ask u to provide proof or withdraw the statement. in contrast what Quran says is Ch.No. 5, Verse No. 32, if any one kills any human being, unless it be for murder or creating mischief in the land, it is as though you have killed the whole of humanity’.

 

[ex-muslim Ahmed]

Hey man I said Jesus is not Allah's son means because Allah or Muslims denies that Jesus is son of god they try to states some friendly verses but on the other hand distroying his true indentity? do not forget why Jesus condemn to death ..... like you guys now in jesus times some people didnt b'liv in Jesus they also said jesus is not son of god ...man can not be son of god lot of things like that


I advise you to give some proof when u provide something here. Now Give me what is the proof for Jesus Being God of Son...

Heh heh..well..What about Allah's daughters ?? Al-Uzza, Al-Lat and Manat??

It is an undeniable fact of history that before Muhammed was born, in the Pagan Arabian religion, Allah was the name of the principal deity in Mecca who had three daughters (S53:19/20): Uzzah; Lat; Manat.According to their traditions they acted as Allah's INTERCESSORS.
The GoddessesAl-Uzza, Al-Lat and Manat formed a triad in pre-Islamic Arabia.


The three were worshipped as uncut aniconic stones. They were widely worshipped: from Nabatean Petra in the North to the legendary Kingdoms of Arabia Felix in the South, including Saba, the Biblical Sheba;as far east as Iran and Palmyra;and the three of them were very popular Goddesses in Mecca at the time of Muhammad.

Sometimes the three of them are referred to as the daughters of Allah; sometimes Manat and Al-Lat are considered daughters of Al-Uzza.


Al-Uzza, "the Strong One", "The Most Mighty", "The Mighty One" was as mentioned earlier, a pre-Islamic Arabian goddess, the virgin warrior and youngest in the triad of goddesses was one of the most venerated Arab Deities, and the Goddess of the morning and evening star, the planet Venus and was a blood-thirsty goddess which requires sacrifices; both animal and human.


Her idol was situated in a valley in Nakhlat al-Sha'miyah. She had a temple at Petra(though which one that was has not been determined), and may well have been the patron Goddess of that city. Isaac of Antioch (a writer of the 5th century CE) calls herBeltis ("Lady", a title shared by many other Semitic Goddesses), and Kaukabta, "the Star". He also says that women would invoke Al-Uzza from the rooftops, a form of worship appropriate to a Star Goddess.


St. Epiphanius of the 4th century CE calls her the mother of Dusares, the local mountain god, calling her by the title Chaamu or Chalmous, meaning "young girl or virgin". She has connections with the acacia tree, and her sanctuary at Nakhlahhad three acacias in which she was believed to descend.


She has much in common with Ishtar and Astarte as Morning and Evening Star goddesses — they all have aspects of both Love and War goddess, and big cats were sacred to them. She is shown here armed as a bellatrix, standing before an acacia tree, with a caracal, or desert lynx. She was associated by the Greeks with their Aphrodite Urania, "Heavenly Aphrodite".




Originally Sabean (the culture of the Kingdom of Saba or Sheba in the south of Arabia, present-day Yemen), worship of Al-Uzza spread all over Arabia. She had a sanctuary in a valley on the road from Mecca, comprising three acacia trees in which she was said to descend. Some scholars believe she may even have been the patron deity of Mecca itself.


The Quraish of Mecca paid much reverence to Allat and al-`Uzza, most of all to the latter. The Quraish were the tribe to which Muhammad belonged


Al-Lat, whose name is a contraction ofal-Illahat, "the Goddess", is mentioned by Herodotus as Alilat, whom he identifies with Aphrodite. She is sometimes also equated with Athene, and is called "the Mother of the Gods", or "Greatest of All". She is a goddess of Springtime and Fertility, the Earth-Goddess who brings prosperity. She and Al-Uzza were sometimes confused, and it seems that as one gained in popularity in one area the other's popularity diminished.


The sun in Arabia was called Shams and considered feminine, and may represent an aspect of Al-Lat. She had a sanctuary in the town ofTa'if, east of Mecca, and was known from Arabia to Iran. Her symbol is the crescent moon (sometimes shown with the sun disk resting in its crescent), and the gold necklace she wears is from a pendant identified to her. As a Fertility-Goddess she bears a sheaf of wheat; and in her hand she holds a small lump of frankincense, as her emblem is found carved on many incense-holders.


Al-Manat or Manawayat derives her name from Arabicmaniya, "fate, destruction, doom, death", or menata, "part, portion, that which is alloted", "Time", the Death or Fate goddess. She is a very ancient Deity and her cult may precede both Al-Uzza's and Al-Lat's. Her cult was widespread, though she was particularly worshipped as a black stone at Quidaid, near Mecca.


She is connected with the great pilgrimage, as her sanctuary was the starting point for several tribes. She is known from Nabatean inscriptions, and tombs were placed under her protection, asking her to curse violators. She is accordingly a Goddess of Death, and Maniya (Death personified) is mentioned in poetry as actively bringing a person to his or her grave, holding out the cup of death.


She is shown as an old woman with a cup, and the symbols at the bottom of her gown spell her name in Sabaic (which does not use vowels and is written right to left), M-n-t. The waning moon is shown over her head as the symbol of the Crone-Goddess of Death.The Aus and Khazraj tribes of Madina were the most prominent worshipers of Manat.


It is an uncontestable fact that Muhammad was born of pagan parents. His father, Abdullah and his mother, Amina were both pagans and they used to worship many idols. His entire childhood (probably up to his teen) was spent in paganism. To day, many Muhammadans will find it extremely hard to digest this fact. However, Muhammad's pagan origin is disclosed by Hisham ibn al-Kalbi,writes:


'We have been told that the Apostle of Allah once mentioned al-Uzza saying, "I have offered a white sheep to al-'Uzza, while I was a follower of the religion of my people."
(Hisham al-Kalbi, Kitab al-Asnam (Book of Idols) , p.17)

In the statement above Muhammad clearly admits his past adherence to paganism-the then religion of the Quraysh.

 

[ex-muslim Ahmed]

Continued...

As Muhammad grew weary from evangelizing his new religion with little success and to bring an end to his quarrel with his people the Quraysh,Muhammad, in a moment of weakness, made the ultimate concession in the Quran, that of ISHRAK/POLYTHEISM,to the effect that his followers, the 'Muslims' were allowed to venerate the daughters of Allah as Allah's intercessors, hence instantly compromising his originally strict monotheism.


The pagan female trinity was immediately accepted without dissent and the passage was considered part of the revealed Quran.


Muhammad later retractred/abrogated this enormous error and denied his culpability in the matter by conveniently accusing Satan of having put the offending words in his mouth.


Muhammad got the usual 'Made to Order''revelation'from Allah,sanctifying the removal of the offending verse. After repenting his error, Muhammad was comforted by Allah.

Hisham ibn al-Kalbiwrites:

The Quraysh were wont to circumambulate the Ka'bah and say:

By Allat and al-'Uzza,
And Manah, the third idol besides.
Verily they are the most exalted females
Whose intercession is to be sought.

These were also called "the Daughters of Allah," and were supposed to intercede before Allah. When the Apostle of Allah was sent, Allah revealed unto him [concerning them] the following:

53.19 Have ye seen Lat. and 'Uzza,
20 And another, the third (goddess), Manat?
21 What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the female?
22 Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair!
23 These are nothing but names which ye have devised,- ye and your fathers,- for which Allah has sent down no authority (whatever). They follow nothing but conjecture and what their own souls desire!- Even though there has already come to them Guidance from their Lord!
(Hisham ibn al-Kalbi, 'Kitab al-Asnam,' p.17)

 

[Y2K]

Oya tiyenne exmuslimgen answers

 

[I love Srilanka]

Oya tiyenne exmuslimgen answers

Y2k, I expect valid answers from you..I hope u won't run away...

 

[Snake eyes]

religions walata garahaganna epa ban
mama muslim neme eth ehema agam walata wiruddawa katha karana eka hari na neda????

 

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Menna mage mahansiye prathipala....................

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[ex-muslim Ahmed]

Jesus cannot be son of God but Allah has three daughters???

Hello?? dont run away Cowards! Answer this!

 

[I love Srilanka]

Jesus cannot be son of God but Allah has three daughters???

Hello?? dont run away Cowards! Answer this!

In fact, I dont need to answer you as u are a moron, and allege islam with invalid & illogical points..still since you called us Cowards only, I decided to reply u...mind muslims are not cowards like u guys,who don't have a logical concept of the God. man,,,you cant ever prove Islam is wrong ok..so your attempt are waste.

this is One common argument or claim put forth by Christians today is that the Quran claims That Allah has 3 daughters, those daughters being the pagan godesses of Lat, Manat, and Al-Uzza. Such a claim is very strong indeed, but is there any truth behind this claim? Does the Quran actually state that Allah has three daughters?

To back this claim up, the Christians often quote one Quranic passage, and then think they have proven their point, let us quote this passage:

053.019
YUSUFALI: Have ye seen Lat. and 'Uzza,

053.020
YUSUFALI: And another, the third (goddess), Manat?


Christians love to quote these two verses and then stop, the question we must ask such Christians is why do they stop there? Is their holy spirit too afraid to quote the rest of the passages? Since Christians claim to be inspired by the holy spirit then what is the holy spirit hiding here? Let us now quote the rest of the passages:

053.021
YUSUFALI: What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the female?

053.022
YUSUFALI: Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair!

053.023
YUSUFALI: These are nothing but names which ye have devised,- ye and your fathers,- for which Allah has sent down no authority (whatever). They follow nothing but conjecture and what their own souls desire!- Even though there has already come to them Guidance from their Lord!

So had the Christians care to carry on, they would see that Allah exposes them making such a lie! Allah tells them that they the pagans have invented these false idols, and that it is something corrupt.

We must ask why do Christians not quote the rest? In fact I will not hold the Christians responsible for such deceit, but I will hold the holy spirit responsible. Christians claim the holy spirit inspires them, if that is true then the holy spirit is inspiring them to be untruthful, and to be distorters of truth, and to try and make up a lie. And such actions cannot be coming from a holy being, rather such action is inspired by someone called Iblis, who is shaytan, because only shaytan inspires people to make a lie against Allah and his Noble Quran.

 

[ex-muslim Ahmed]

In fact, I dont need to answer you as u are a moron, and allege islam with invalid & illogical points..still since you called us Cowards only, I decided to reply u...mind muslims are not cowards like u guys,who don't have a logical concept of the God. man,,,you cant ever prove Islam is wrong ok..so your attempt are waste.

Infact muslims who cheer killing innocent kuffars (9/11, 7/7 , bali, madrid etc) are Cowards of cowards! How can you talk about logic when your prophet asked you to drink camel piss??

this is One common argument or claim put forth by Christians today is that the Quran claims That Allah has 3 daughters, those daughters being the pagan godesses of Lat, Manat, and Al-Uzza. Such a claim is very strong indeed, but is there any truth behind this claim? Does the Quran actually state that Allah has three daughters?

To back this claim up, the Christians often quote one Quranic passage, and then think they have proven their point, let us quote this passage:

053.019
YUSUFALI: Have ye seen Lat. and 'Uzza,

053.020
YUSUFALI: And another, the third (goddess), Manat?


Christians love to quote these two verses and then stop, the question we must ask such Christians is why do they stop there? Is their holy spirit too afraid to quote the rest of the passages? Since Christians claim to be inspired by the holy spirit then what is the holy spirit hiding here? Let us now quote the rest of the passages:

053.021
YUSUFALI: What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the female?

053.022
YUSUFALI: Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair!

053.023
YUSUFALI: These are nothing but names which ye have devised,- ye and your fathers,- for which Allah has sent down no authority (whatever). They follow nothing but conjecture and what their own souls desire!- Even though there has already come to them Guidance from their Lord!

So had the Christians care to carry on, they would see that Allah exposes them making such a lie! Allah tells them that they the pagans have invented these false idols, and that it is something corrupt.

We must ask why do Christians not quote the rest? In fact I will not hold the Christians responsible for such deceit, but I will hold the holy spirit responsible. Christians claim the holy spirit inspires them, if that is true then the holy spirit is inspiring them to be untruthful, and to be distorters of truth, and to try and make up a lie. And such actions cannot be coming from a holy being, rather such action is inspired by someone called Iblis, who is shaytan, because only shaytan inspires people to make a lie against Allah and his Noble Quran.

Thanks ! for revealing the part of truth! the truth Muslims are hiding is that Allah was in fact moon god of Pagans of pre-Muslim Arabia

 

[III Reich]

religions walata garahaganna epa ban
mama muslim neme eth ehema agam walata wiruddawa katha karana eka hari na neda????

Nobody will ever say anything about the life of buddha, Jesus etc . Cos they lead a life which can be a role model for people. Buddha teached compassion to all beings including animals. Jesus said if one hits you give your other cheek don't hit him back .
How can you contrast that with this ?
http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1090664

 

[Odel]

AL- QURAN IS A Big Miracle of course.
Have u not seen still. come to me i show u miracles and signs.

BRO.

 

[Odel]

Evrythn is created by God.

And Islam says not to criticizes other Religions.