අනේ දෙවියනි ඔබ කොහිද ??

sanjeeme

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    13Jesus answered, “Everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again, 14but whoever drinks the water I give him will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life.”

    මොනවාද මෙ ජවනය ගෙන දෙන ජලය? ජෙසුස් වහන්සෙ ගොඩාක් විට Spiritual දෙවල් කියා දෙනවා මෙ ලොකයේ දෙවල් උදාහරනයට අරගෙන.

    සමහර අයට හිතෙන්න පුලුවන් "කයො දෙවියන් වහන්සෙ කෙනෙකු නැති වුනාට අපි යස අගෙට ජිවත් වන්නෙ කියලා" සමහර අය අකුසල් වැඩි කරගන්නත් පුලුවන් අසබ්ය වචනයෙන් දෙවියන්ට, ජෙසුස් වහන්සෙට, මරියතුයට, ජුසේ තුමාට එහෙම අපි දැක්කානෙ නියම බෞද්ධ කම බෞද්ධයන්ගෙ , ප්‍රශ්නයක් හැහුවා නම් උත්තර දෙන්න පුලුවන් නමුත් නිකම්ම බැන වදින කොට ජෙසුස් වහන්සෙ කලා වගේ කිසිවක් නොකියා සතයම ප්‍රකාශ කරන එක තමයි නියම කිතුනු කම

    ඉතින් මෙ ජිවනය ගෙන දෙන්නෙ තාමගේ Spiritual life එකට පාපය නිසා ඔබ අප උපතින් Spiritually Dead, ජෙසුස් වහන්සෙට පමණයි ඕබ්ට Spiritually ජිවනය ගෙන දෙන්න පුලුවන්

    වගකිමෙන් මෙ දෙවල් කියන්නෙ , පණ්ඩිත්යන්ට පමණක් නොවෙයි ජෙසුස් වහන්සෙගෙ දහම ඔනැම කෙනෙකුට තෙරුම් ගන්න පුලුවන් මෙ දහම, අන්න එකයි මෙහි වැද්ගත් කම ජෙසුස් වහන්සෙත් පවසා තියෙන්වා වස්තුව සහා මෙ භෞතික දෙවල් පස්සෙ යන අයට ස්වර්ගයට ඇතුලු වන්න අපහසු බව, නමුත් පාව්කාරයන්ට වුනත් ඉක්මනින් පසුතැවෙන මනසක් හා සිත් හැරිමකට සිත බරනම් ස්වර්ග රාජයට උරුම කියන්න පුලුවන්

    ගොඩාක් අය මෙ අපිට බැන වැදුනා මොනවා උනත් අපිට හාස්කම්ක් කියලා, පුතේ මට නම් කෙනෙකුගෙ සිත් හැරිම තරම් අස්කමක් තවත් නැ අපි දැකලා තියෙන්වා කුඩු කාරයො, සොරුන්, භෞතික වාදින්, වෙනත් ආගම්වල පවා අය ජෙසුස් වහන්සෙ දෙසට සිත් හැරිමකින් පැමිනෙනවා , මගෙ හොදම යලුවන් දෙදෙනාත් බෞද්ධ නමුත් අද දෙවියන් වහන්සෙව පිලිඅරගෙන හොදින් ජිවත් වෙනවා ජෙසුස් වහන්සෙගෙ ඉගැන්විම් තුලින් මෙවා අපි බලෙන් කියලා කරගත්ත දෙවල් නෙමෙයි අපෙ ජිවිත දැකලා ඔවුන්ට සිතුන දෙවල් ඉතින් මේ ගෙවල් ගානෙ යන්න අවස්ස නැ ක්‍රිස්තුස් වහන්සෙගෙ නාමයෙන් හොද වැඩ කරන්න, එකිනෙකාට ප්‍රම කරන්න, ප්‍රමය තරම් සැබැ දෙවියන් වෙතට ඔබව ‍රැගෙන යන තවත් බලවෙගයක් ලොකයෙ නැති තරම්

    මෙ අය මාව මාරා දැම්මත් අපි ජෙසුස් වහන්සෙ වෙනුවෙන් ජිවත් වෙනවා මොකද අපි දන්නවා මෙ කරන දෙයින් හොදක් මිස නරකක් කිසිවකුටත් සිදු නොවන වග
    :yes::love:

    වෙනස මෙකයි අපෙ සිතෙ වෛරයකින් නෙමෙයි අපි අනෙක් දෙවල් ප්‍රශ්න කරන්නෙ සතුරාට වුනත් ප්‍රම කිරිමෙ හැකියාවක් අද මට ජෙසුස් වහන්සෙ නිසා පුලුවන් විම මා ලද ලොකුම ජයග්‍රහනයයි

    Jesus is the way, the truth and the life


    සූකරයාගේ සිතේ ප්‍රේමයේ තරම පහතින් දැක්වේ. එසේම මේ ලෝකයේ ක්‍රිස්තියානිය වැපිරවීම සදහා තොගේ මහ උන් ලේ වැගිරීම් කරන විට ඔය උගන්නන ප්‍රේමය තිබ්බේ කොහෙද ??

    උඹේ ඔය මහා ඉවසීම සහ ප්‍රේමය අතුරැදහන් වෙච්ච හැටි පෙන්වන්න පුලුවන් උඹ කරපු මන්ද බුද්ධික ප්‍රකාශ වලින්ම. එක වෙලාවකදි පාලි භාෂාවට උඹ නිග්‍රහ කලා (පාලි භාෂාව කියන්නේ සියලු බුදුවරැන්ගේ භාෂාව) ඊට පස්සේ වල්පොල රාහුල හිමියන් ලියන ලද පොතට මේ මිසදිටුවා කියනවා නිකන් වචන හරඹයක් විතරයි කියලා.

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    ඔන්න ඕක තමයි තෝ පෙන්නන මහා ඉවසීම. අනේ තෝ වගේ මන්ද බුද්ධික වචන හරඹ කරන එවුන් යවන්න ඕනේ අසූචි වලවල් වලට නෙවෙයි අසූචි ගංගා වලට පුලුවන් තරම් අසූචි කාලා ඊට පස්සේ ස්වර්ගස්ථ වෙන්න
    .

    මේ ගැන මම මුලින්ම දාපු ලිපියකුත් තියෙනවා
    http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1178487


    ඊට පස්සේ මම කියන්නම් බෙෘද්ධයින් ඇයි ආවේගශීලි කියලා මොකද අද බෙෘද්ධයින්ගේ ඉවසීමෙන් තමයි ඔය අන්තවාදී මිසදිටුවන් ප්‍රයෝජන ගන්නේ ජාතික හැඟීම, අන්තවාදය, ජාතිවාදය කියන්නේ තුනක්. එදා ධර්මපාලතුමා තම ආගමට තියෙන ලැබැදියාව හිතේ තියාගෙන ඉවසගෙන මුල්ලකට වෙලා හිටියනම් අද අපිට බුද්ධගයාවක් නෑ. ඒ වගේම අද මේ මිසදිටුවන් කරගෙන යන සූක්ෂම අන්‍යආගමීකරනයට අපි නිවටයෝ වගේ ඇස් කන් පියාගෙන හිටියොත් තව ටික කාලෙකින් බුදු දහමත් නෑ


    උඹලගේ ඔය සාක්ෂි දැරීම ඉතා සාමකාමීව ගෙන යන හැටි ගැන මම ලිපියකින් පෙන්වලා දීලා තියෙනවා. ඔය මහා ප්‍රේමයෙන් යුතුව ඉවසීමෙන් සාක්ෂි දැරිම කරන හැටි පහත දැක්වෙනවා

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    sanjeeme

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    aththatama mada kipila thiyenne katada kiyala penawa ban :rofl:

    උඹලා වගේ කිසි වැදගම්මකට නැති එවුන්ට පිළිතුරැ දීම මෝඩ කමකි. මේ Thread එකට උඹ අහගෙන ආවේ මොකක්ද ඒකට පිළිතුරැ දී ඇත. අනුන්ගේ දේවල් වලට තප්පුලෑම ගොන් කමකි.
     

    sanjeeme

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    y2k plz me thread ekata comment karanna epa :)
    mekage(sanjimiyage) aramuna mokakda kiyala ubatath therenawane bn :yes:

    ඇයි උඹට ඔය y2k අරමුණ මොකක්ද කියලා තේරැම් ගන්න බැරිද. ඔව් ඒ තරම් මොලයක් තිබ්බනම් උඹ ගොන් Comments දාන්නේ නෑ නේ. ගිහින් බලලා වරෙන් y2k ගේ බලු Thread ටික ඉස්සෙල්ලා ඊට පස්සේ බලපන් කන්ණාඩියක් ඉස්සරහට ගිහින් මූණ පොඩ්ඩක් :P
     

    sanjeeme

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    etin oi mokada ehenam uba me god gana ahanne? haha.. ubath etin ube religion1ka witarak adahagena anith ewa gana questions ahanne natuwa ennako? ubath qustions ahuwa nisai math ahuwe. balanna uba kochara nagattada kiyala. mama newi. oya magen qustions ahuwa. math ewata ans dunna. samahara ewa oyata terene nati nisai bible1ka read karanna kiwe. eth man ahapu ewata oya ans denne cha max widiyata. one buddist kenekta penawa oya ans dunna widiya. oya wena id's hadagena awilla metana kochara post dammath uba cha una machan. uba ube agama gana danneth naha. machan peace kiyane every religion1kak tiyena1kak. lord buddhath kiyala tiyenawa. ubalata e word1ke terumawath danne naha. love kiyana1kata tamai karunawai, mairtiyai wenas wenne. karunawai, maitiriyai dakwana puluwan one kenekta. but love karanna amarui. ekawath dannawada? mata oya buddism gana qustion ahana one naha. uba wage buddist gana danne nati minissu nisai ada me tahweta rata awila tiyene. hoda buddism aya owage bolada widiyata ans denneth naha. anika word1kak terumakwath danne nati kenek oya.

    මේ Thread එක දාලා තියෙන්නේ අර y2k මිසදිටුවා බුදු දහමට අපහාස කරමින් දිගින් දිගටම Thread දැමීමට සහ බෙෘද්ධයින්ගේ Thread වලට බලෙන් පැන පැන තම මිසදිටු අදහස් වැපිරීමට පිළිතුරක් වශයෙන්. හොදින් කිහිප වතාවක් කිව්වත් මන්ද බුද්ධිකයෙක් වගේ තම ගතිය ප්‍රදර්ශනය කිරීමට පිළිතුරක් වශයෙන්. ඒ සූකරයා බුදු දහම ගැන ගොන් ප්‍රශ්න සහ උගේ මිසදිටු අදහස් දැමීම නිසා සියලු බෙෘද්ධයින්ට අපහාස වෙනවා. එය හොදින් කිව්වම අහන්නේ නැත්තම අපිටත් ප්‍රශ්න අහන්න වෙනවා එතකොට අනිත් අයටත් හිත රිදෙනවනම් ඒකම අපේ අයටත් සිදු වුන බව මතක් කරන්න කැමති‍යි

    ඔබ මුලින්ම උපදෙස් දිය යුත්තේ අපට නොව y2k ට. ඉදිරියටත් හෝ උෘ බුදු දහමට නිගරැ කලොත් අපිටත් ඔහුගෙන් ප්‍රශ්න ඇසීමට සිදු වන බව අමතක කරන්න එපා. උෘට තමාගේ ආගමේ තියෙන ඕනම දෙයක් මේ Section එකේ ප්‍රකාශ කරන්න අයිතියක් තියෙනවා නමුත් බුදු දහමට නිග්‍රහ කරන්න අයිතියක් නෑ. එපමණයි
     

    sanjeeme

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    buduhamuduruwo dan hitiyanam sanjeeme buduhamuduruwantath bana desanaa karai :yes:
    sanjeeme kiyanne ewage porak..:lol:


    මේ Thread එකෙන් මම කාටවත් බුදු දහම උගන්නන්න ගිහින් නැත. බුදු දහමට නිගරැ කරමින් සූකර ප්‍රශ්න ඇසූ සූකරයෙකුට පිළිතුරැ වශයෙන් මේ Thread එක දමා ඇත. තෝ වැනි වසලයින් පිළිබද බුදු දහමේ දේශනා කොට ඇත.

    මෙබදු උතුම් ලංකාවේ
    දසතින් දුසිරිත් බෝවේ
    මේ ගැන වැඩ කලොත් ලොවේ
    නුඹෙත් ම‍ගෙත් නම කියවේ

    තමන් ලැබූ දිවි පෙවෙතේ
    කොටසක් රට සමය වෙතේ
    පුද නොකලොත් නුඹෙන් පුතේ
    මෙලොවට කිසි පලක් නැතේ
     

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    ඔබ තුමාගේ අනුවණ කමට කණගාටුව ප්‍රකාශ කරන අතර දිගින් දිගටම ඔබ තුමා මේ Thread එකේ එල්ලි සිටිමින් බෙෘද්ධයින් නිවටයින් බවට පත් කිරීමට යෑම නම් කොහෙත්ම සාර්ථක වෙන්නේ නැති බව වටහා ගන්න. ගහපන් මරපන් වැනි වචන පාවිච්චි කරමින් මම සදහන් කල දේ විකෘති කරන ඔබ තුමා වැන්නන්ගේ නුවණ ගැන නැවතත් කණගාටුව ප්‍රකාශ කරමි. යමෙක් ධර්මයට අපහාස කරයි නම් එය වලක්වා ගැනීමට ගහන්න මරන්න ඕනේ නෑ එය නැවැත්වීමට ඕන තරම් ක්‍රම තියෙනවා ඔබ තුමාගේ මොළයට වැටහෙන්නේ ගහපන් මරපන් පමණක් වෙන්න ඇති. එදා ධර්මපාල තුමා බුද්ධගයාව බේර ගත්තේ කාටවත් ගහලා හෝ මරලා නෙවෙයි. ඉතින් තව දුරටත් ඔය නිශ්ඵල සහ සම්ප්‍රපලාප දොඩවන්නේ නැත්තම් හොදයි.



    ඇත්තටම ඔබ බුදු දහමනම් දන්නේ නෑ කියලා මම දන්නවා. දහමේ හැසිරෙන්න දහම ආරක්ෂා කර ගත යුතුයි. අවිහිංසාවාදය සහිත ධර්මය ඊලග පරපුරටත් කියලා දෙන්න ඒ අවිහිංසාවාදී ධර්මය රැක ගත යුතුයි. ඔය ඔබ වැනි පොතේ ගුරාලාගෙන් අද වර්තමානයේ බුදු දහමට වෙලා තියෙන ආක්‍රමණ වලක්වා ගත නොහැකියි. නැවතත් කියන්න තියෙන්නේ ඔය ගහපන් මරපන් වචන ඔබ තුමාට අදාළ වචන මිස අපට අදාළ නොවේ. ගිහින් අර මහින්ද හිමියන්ගේ පොතක් අරගෙන කියවන්න එතකොට ඔය ඔලුවට ඇත්ත මොකක්ද කියලා වැටහෙයි.




    ඔන්න අර ක්‍රිස්තියානි මිසදිටු අදහස් නැවත ඕක තමයි මම කිව්වේ ඔබතුමා බෙෘද්ධයෙක් නෙවෙයි කියලා. ගෙයින් ගෙය යමින් තම දහදිය බිදු හලන්නේ මිසදිටු අන්තවාදීන් :P:Pබෙෘද්ධයින්ට දිය යුත පණිවුඩ අපි දෙන්නේ ගමේ පන්සලේ මාර්ගයෙන් දැනටමත් අපි ඒ දේවල් කරනවා නැතුව ඔය ඔබතුමා ‍වගේ මෙතන බොරැ බයිලා ගහ ගහ ඉන්නේ නෑ. මේ ප්‍රදේශයේ ආගම වපුරන්න ආපු මිසදිටුවෝ රැලක් අපි ජනතාව සමග එක්ක එකතු වෙලා පන්නලා දැම්මා.



    අනේ ඔබ තුමා මේ ලංකාවෙද ජීවත් වෙන්නේ. දේශපාලකයින් තමන්ගේ වැඩකොටස හරියට කරානම් අද ලංකාවට මෙහෙම වෙන්නේ නෑ. ඔවුන් එහෙම කරයි කියලා බලන් ඉන්නවනම් ඒක තමයි ලොකුම ගොන් කම. එදා ධර්මපාල තුමා බුද්ධගයාව බේර ගන්න දේශපාලකයින්ට දීලා හිටියනම් අද බුද්ධගයාවත් අපිට නෑ තේරැණාද.

    ඔබතුමන්ලා වගේ රෝමය ගිනි ගනිද්දී වීණා වාදනය කර කර ඉන්න සැබෑ බෙෘද්ධයින් විදිහට අපිට බෑ. අපි අපේ විදිහට මේ ආගම රැක ගන්නම්. හැබැයි ඔබ තුමා ඔය පණ්ඩිත කාතා කියලා තියෙනවනේ මම අහන්න කැමතියි දැන් ඔබ තුමා මොකක්ද මේ බුදු දහමට වෙන විනාශයට එරෙහිව කරලා තියෙන්නේ කියලා. නිශ්ශබ්දව ගේ ඇතුලට වෙලා ඉදීමද එහෙම නැත්තම් අඩුම ගානේ ඔය දේශපාලකයින්ට ඔය ඔබ තුමාගේ අදහස් ටික ඉදිරිපත් කරන්න ගියේ නැද්ද. ඕනේනම් කියන්න මම අවස්ථාවක් අරන් දෙන්නම් ගිහින් ඔබතුමාට පුලුවන්නේ එහෙම හරි මේ බුදු දහම රැකගන්න ඉදිරිපත් වෙන්න





    ඔන්න ඔබ තුමා නැවත් වරද්දා ගත්තා බුදු දහමේ කොහේවත් ආගමික යුද්ධ සිදු වෙලා නෑ. ඔබතුමා වැන්නවුන් ගැන ලැජ්ජා විය යුත්තේ ඔන්න ඕක නිසයි. යමෙක් තම ආගමට අපහාස කරනකොට අනේ උෘ උගේ ආගම දන්න එකෙක් නෙවෙයි කියලා හිනා වෙවී නිවටයෙකු ලෙස සිටීමට තරම් නිවටයින් නොවේ අපි.

    ඔයා හරි .මමත් කිව්වේ එකමයි මේ වැඩේ කරන්ඩ වෙන ක්‍රම තියනවා , ඒ ක්‍රමෙන් යන සියලු සටන් වලදී මමත් ඔයත් එක්ක ඉන්නවා , දේශපාලනය කරන අය සම්බන්ද කරන්ඩකෝ මමත් ට්‍රය් එකක් දාල බලන්නම් , බැරිම උනොත් ඔයා යන ක්‍රමේට හරි මට එන්ඩ පුළුවන්නේ .:)
     

    sanjeeme

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    ඔයා හරි .මමත් කිව්වේ එකමයි මේ වැඩේ කරන්ඩ වෙන ක්‍රම තියනවා , ඒ ක්‍රමෙන් යන සියලු සටන් වලදී මමත් ඔයත් එක්ක ඉන්නවා , දේශපාලනය කරන අය සම්බන්ද කරන්ඩකෝ මමත් ට්‍රය් එකක් දාල බලන්නම් , බැරිම උනොත් ඔයා යන ක්‍රමේට හරි මට එන්ඩ පුළුවන්නේ .:)

    ඔබට දේශපාලකයින් හම්බ වෙලා අවංකව ඔය අදහස් පවසලා වැඩක් වෙයි කියලා හිතනවද. මමනම් එහෙම හිතන්නේ නෑ මොකද ඔය බුදු දහමට විරැද්ධව තිබෙන කුමන්ත්‍රන පිළිබද මුලින්ම බෙෘද්ධ සංවිධාන ගිහින් කතා කරන්නේ දේශපාලකයින් එක්ක තමයි නමුත් ඔවුන්ගෙන් උදව් ලැබෙන්නේ ඉතාම සුලු වශයෙන්.

    ඔබට උවමනානම් බෙෘද්ධ කටයුතු පිළිබද ලේකම් වරයා හදුන්වා දෙන්න පුලුවන්. නමුත් ඊට කලින් ඔබේ ප්‍රදේශයේ ඔය ඔය කුමන්ත්‍රන තියෙනවනම් ඒවා හොයලා බලලා වලක්වා ගන්න බලන්න.
     

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    if evidence based..our main observation in life is that ..life origins from pre existing life.. there is no commendable proof otherwise.. how can it be that a law of the living arise from dead? what would be the point of law to a lifeless absolution? its very clear upon observing nature that life is a design.. the human eye.. the bacterium flagella.. the human mind... I could go on...

    also on the matter of evidence based faith..I never had a problem with it.. but problem is.. to what extent is our observed evidence correct??.. we dont know to what degree anything is real.. we observe only a little amount and understand only a little amount.. and how can be absolutely certain that our conclusions are universal and objective? there is no problem with logic.. because logic if rightly applied will lead to the ultimate cause.. but we cannot rightly apply it with our potential..why cannot things that are not observable taken as evidence?? why cannot intelligence itself.. ok suppose u find a wrist watch in an isolated room... no one saw a man putting it there or a man making it.. so people come up with the idea that it naturally evolved due to lack of evidence.. but if they instead concluded.. Ah ! this seems like a design.. it should be made by someone.. they d have ended up with a better conclusion.. and that is the problem with evidence..

    "GOD is based on blind faith, no logic or evidence is not given"

    This is where your lack of knowledge in Christianity comes to play.. I do not blame as we have our mutual shares of lack when it comes to knowledge..Christianity is not blind faith in God.. a huge misconception is that to be a christian is to merely belive in the existence of a God.. but as I told you one day I surrendered my life to God.. and God found me.. the superstitious experience of the baptism of holy spirit with the sign of tongues was given to me.. until u receive holy spirit u don't see the world clearly.. but once you have received everything starts to make sense.. this life is a quest of choices to perfect our lives.. the intention of perfection being to give rise to a fourth person of the exact character as that of God.. another entity of God.. the bible isn't what it seems.. many try to interpret it literally.. if u interpret literally u will see killings and animal sacrifices and so on.. but everything in bible has a higher purpose and a spiritual meaning which is impossible to be known unless revealed by the author himself..
     

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    To ancient Glory..

    If my father decides to lock me up in the basement for the rest of my life, just because I refused to love him back, would you call that perfect love from his part?

    Why would a father lock a child in the basement if he truly loves him? if the child also perfectly loves back then there wont be a reason to put him there in the first place..and if u implied in terms of protection.. why should he be protected if everyone around perfectly loves the child? love is not a logic or an inclination of choice but it is a matter of a person's disposition.. in deeper thought u come to realize that love is actually a person.. I m not talking about human love..

    as for your curiosity.. I go to CPM (Ceylon Pentecostal Mission).. Catholicism is mostly satanic.. most denominations have incorrect interpretations and wrong spiritual involvements..
     
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    Sign of the second advent of ChristAbout three hundred prophecies were uttered through the word of God, concerningthe first advent of Christ. And as a fulfilment of these prophecies, Christ came into the world in due time.But about his Second Advent more prophecies are uttered than about the first. Ifthe first prophecies were fulfilled, the second also must be fulfilled, and they are all almost fulfilled before us, and we are witnesses to them.His first advent was to save sinners; i.e., He came to be a ransom for the sinsof the people. But His Second Advent will be to gather His saints together. Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time, without sin unto salvation" (Heb. 9:28). (But to bring to full salvation - Philip translation).This full salvation work in the individual life is to prepare a Church or Body for the Lord Jesus Christ. "And hath put all things under his feet and gave himto be the head over all things to the Church, which is his body, the fulness ofhim that filleth all in all" (Eph. 1:22,23).The building of such a Body was started on the day of Pentecost, by the baptismof the Holy Spirit. St. Paul, writing to the Corinthian Church, explains this."For by one Sprit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free: and have been all made to drink into one Spirit" (I Cor.12:13). This experience was repeated among the believers for some time, say, till the third Century and then ceased. This period according to the Bible is called the "former rain" period. Thereafter this doctrine on the Baptism of the Holy Spirit as a definite and exclusive experience, ceased to be preached: and therefore people lost the experience and the knowledge of it. But God has given us a promise that he would give us the former rain and the latter rain,"Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the Lord your God: for he hath given you the FORMER RAIN moderately, and he will cause to come down for you

    the rain, THE FORMER RAIN, and the LATTER RAIN, in the first month" (Joel 2:23)."Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain" (James 5:7)Baptism of the Holy Spirit is spoken of as a rain, because with this experienceGod reveals, through the Spirit baptised individuals, the doctrines or the truths of Christ (Read Deut. 32: 2,3). "My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speechshall distil as the due, as the small rain upon the tender herb; and as the showers upon the grass; because I will publish the name of the Lord.As He revealed Himself fully in the early days by the baptism of the Holy Spiritor former rain, He is again revealing Himself fully to a people of this generation, by another outpouring which is the latter rain, according to the word of God. This outpouring started with the 20th century, and now it has become universal.The purpose of this outpouring: It is to prepare a people or the Church for HisSecond Coming. This Church is in two parts. (1) The dead (2) The living (see IThess. 4:16,17)."The dead in Christ shall rise first; then we which are ALIVE and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds". So to have a living people to betranslated at the coming of the Lord, they should have all the spiritual experiences of the people who have gone before them. (Read also I Cor. 15:51,52). "Behold I show you a mystery we shall not all sleep, but we shall be changed...andthe dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed".Ministry: The New Testament Church, which is the Body of Christ, cannot be built without God- appointed servants and the gifts of the Holy Spirit. So with thebaptism of the Holy Spirit or by the anointing He sets apart ministers for the Church. And he gave some apostles, and some, prophets, and some evangelists, andsome pastors and teachers for the perfecting of the body of Christ" (Eph. 4: 11,12). These offices are determined by the gifts of the Holy Spirit, which are distributed according to one's calling (Read Rom. 12:6-8). "Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith...he that sheweth mercy, with cheerfulness". The ministers of the Church must maintain their ministries by consecration. Unless a man forsakes his all he cannot be God's disciple" (Luke 14:33). A servant of God should be wholly given to the Church, and he should have nothing tocall his own. He should not be bound or confined to one place, country, language or people, because the Church is universal.The purpose of the ministry: "Whom we preach warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom, that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus" (Col. 1.28). This preaching should be according to the revelation of the mysteryof Christ. "That God would open unto us a door of utterance to speak the mystery of Christ (Col. 4:3 also Rom. 16:25).This work is called the resuscitation of the Church; or bringing the Church backto its pristine glory. People could not believe that such a thing could ever take place; but thank God He is fulfilling His promise. As it is told "Not by might, nor by power, but by my Spirit, saith the Lord of hosts" (Zech. 4:6). God is doing what is impossible with man. So let us get ready for the coming of the Lord by receiving the baptism of the Holy Spirit. He is coming for a people who are sanctified by the Holy Spirit. "And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless untothe coming of our Lord Jesus Christ" (I Thess. 5:23)

    Return of the remnant of Israel:"And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set His hand again the second time to recover the remnant of His people" (Is. 11:11).Here the prophecy is concerning THAT DAY. It is not a day of 24 hours that he speaks of. If we read the previous verses in that chapter we shall understand that he is speaking about the thousand year's reign of peace and righteousness on this earth. Before it starts Israel will have to be gathered a second time formthe four corners of the earth (Is. 11:12). This, as the prophet says is an ensign for the nations of the earth; an ensign to us that the time for the millenniumis at hand, and before that Christ should return. Here it is good for us to study in brief the history of Israel.God had promised Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the land of Canaan for an inheritance(Deut. 6:10). But this promise was on a covenant that Israel, their children,kept the commandments of God.
     

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    Later, God brought Israel into Canaan and made them a kingdom. But when they displeased God by their lives, He divided their kingdoms into two and named them Israel and Judah. Israel, the larger of the two, consisted of ten tribes, and Judah of two tribes The ten tribes, Israel, turned out to be more ungodly than the other two, and therefore God gave them to the Assyrians. This is called the Assyrian Captivity. The remaining two tribes called Judah too followed suit with the others in their wickedness, and they were later taken captives by the Babylonians. The glorious temple which King Solomon built was destroyed and all the treasures of the house of the Lord and those of the king's house were taken away to Babylon. But after a period of seventy years' stay in exile they returned to Canaan, being delivered from their captivity. All the belongings of the temple were also restored.

    When they returned they built a second temple at Jerusalem by the hand of one Zerubbabel and this temple, therefore was called Zerubbabel's temple, these two temples in Jerusalem are very significant and they reveal the wonderful truth of the two spiritual Churches in the New Testament. The captivity and the return of Judah speak of the backsliding of the early Church and its resuscitation now. "The glory of this latter house shall be greater than of the former" (Hag. 2:9). It means that the glory of the Church to be caught up (raptured) should be greater than the glory of the Church that shall be resurrected at His coming.

    Coming back to Israel again, the two tribes, who returned from Babylon were again conquered and taken captives to different parts of the world about seventy years after Christ, according to His own prophecy (Read Lk. 21:24). "And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the time of the Gentiles be fulfilled."

    Since the fulfilment of this prophecy, for years Jerusalem was in the hands of the Gentile kings, first of Rome, then of the Turks and last of the Arabs. But now the time of the Lord is come. Some time close to the beginning of the 20th century, a few outstanding Jews in Europe were fired with an ambition to get Palestine back to the Jews. For this they formed a movement called "Zionist Movement." At first they could think of no other means but to send willing Jews to Palestine, so that they might buy the land from the then occupants and settle down there. This was a long and hazardous process. They could achieve very little by this method. Many of the people who went there to settle down, were badly afflicted by various diseases and their labour brought forth little reward. But the time of the Lord had come, and there broke out the First World War 1914-1918.

    This was an opening for the Jews. As an organised group they joined the side of the Allies, and as a reward for their contribution to the war efforts, the British Parliament by a declaration promised the Jews Palestine as a national home, if and when they won the war. By providence the Allies were victorious and the Turks who were occupying Palestine were defeated and driven out, to make the declaration possible. Thus the doors were opened for the Jews to come back, and the prophecy in Ezek. 37 started its fulfilment. The dry bones of the Jews received life, and sinews and flesh came upon them. Ezek. 37:1-14. Israel began to flow into Palestine. Not only the two tribes called Judah, but also the ten tribes who were earlier taken captives by the Assyrians began to flow in. Of course this was not without difficulty. They faced severe opposition from the Arabs and the Britishers themselves. They had much fighting with the Arabs. But the time of the Lord had come and the Second World War of 1939-45 broke out. We are aware how Hitler, the Chancellor of Germany, and the cruel initiator of this Second World War tried to annihilate the Jews in Europe. Although he managed to destroy millions of them under tragic circumstances it was God's way of driving the Jews to Palestine. Thus the end of the Second World War found nearly 29 million Jews in Palestine. Their number is steadily on the increase. As a result of the Six Days' historic war in 1967, between the Jews and the Arab nations, today the whole of Palestine is back in the hands of the Jews. The prophecy our Lord that "Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles until the time of gentiles be fulfilled", Lk. 21:24, is now almost fulfilled. "He shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth" of Is. 11:12 is also fulfilled. This is an evidence that Jesus is coming soon Rev. 21:20. Amen, even so, come, Lord Jesus. And the Spirit and the bride say, Come" (Rev. 22: 17).
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    Signs of the Second Advent of Christ
    (Continued from Feb. March '72)

    3. Fig tree and all the trees: “Behold the fig tree, and all the trees, … know of your ownselves that summer is nigh at hand … so likewise … know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand” (Lk. 21: 29-31).

    The fig tree is a parable for the Jews. As we saw before, they are flourishing now. All the trees speak of the various nations of the world. It is a marvellous sight to see that a great effort is being made to build up all the downtrodden nations of the earth. The United Nations Organization which came into existence in 1945 had then only 51 nations in it's membership. But today it has 130 free nations in its roll. "When ye see things come to pass know ye that the Kingdom of God is nigh at hand".

    The Lord Jesus is coming soon; let us get ready to meet Him.

    4.. Kings of the East coming to power:
    "And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared”. (Rev. 16:12).

    This speaks of the kings of the east marching against Palestine to fight against it. East means east of Palestine or the Asiatic countries. In Asia, China has become the most powerful nation; the Chinese are exerting their influence over all the other nations in the east. Eventually, China will capture all the eastern countries, and will become one mighty kingdom. We find the signs of it already before us. China's policy as Russia spoke out sometime back, is to wipe out the nations that they capture, and fill that place with their own people as they have done in Tibet. Oh God! Save us from these people. The coming of the Lord is very near and let us get ready to meet Him.

    3.Gog and Magog power coming against Israel: ”Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him” (Ezek. 38:2).

    Gog is the chief prince of the land of Meshech and Tubal. Meshech is Moscow and Tubal is Tobolsk of Russia. Chief prince need not be a particular man. It could be the evil power or devil that rules over that land, as we read of the prince of Persia in the book of Daniel. “But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but lo, Michael one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia”(Dan. 10:13). Here the prince of Persia is the evil spirit that controls the kingdom of Persia and Michael is one of the chief princes of the angelic host.

    We read of three appearances of Gog against Israel and Palestine in the Word of God. They are in Ezekiel 38, 39 Revelation 20:8.

    The 38th chapter speaks of Gog coming against the mountains of Israel. ”After many days thou shalt be visited in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have always been waste; but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them” (Ezek. 38:8).

    This shows that Russia will join hands with the Arab nations as they are now doing and go against Israel to battle. But they would be withstood by the Israelites, with the help of certain other nations. Read Ezekiel 38:13:” Sheba and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish with all the young lions thereof.” The merchants of Tarshish are the Britishers and the young lions thereof are the Americans. America was part of the British Empire and therefore the Americans are called the young lions thereof. God has revealed this through the prophet long beforehand, even long before these countries came to power.

    We can see shadows of these happenings in the air today. Sadat, the Egyptian President challenged in 1971 the Israelites, saying that they would decide their own destiny and fight against Israel that year itself.

    This war should take place just before the coming of the Lord; because in this war Israel will get help from Britain, America etc. This may be called a war by proxy because although this is a war between the Israelites and the Arab nations, there are secret mighty powers behind them; Russia and the Eastern Europe with the Arabs and Britain and America with Israel.

    In this war Russia on the side of the Arabs will surely be defeated, as we read in Ezekiel 38:13. Nevertheless, Christ will come somewhere about this time and take His Church unto Him, so that Satan may be cast into the earth (Read Revelation 12:7). Unless Satan is cast into the earth the Antichrist cannot be revealed. The Antichrist is an individual, in whom Satan will enter and make him extraordinary. Read Revelation 13:2. “And the dragon (Satan) gave him, his power and his seat and great authority”. He (Antichrist) will become ruler over the whole world. And all the world wondered after the beast” (Rev. 13:3).

    This beast or Antichrist, shall also be called Gog the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal. Read Ezekiel 39:1. “Therefore thou son of man, prophesy against Gog, and say, Thus saith the Lord God: “Behold I am against thee, Oh Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal.”

    Israel will make a covenant with this beast for seven years, but in the middle of the seven years, they will fall out with him, and there will be terrible persecution and tribulation for them for 3 ½ years (Read Daniel 9:27). At the end of this period, the beast the Antichrist who is also called Gog, will march against Israel and Palestine. This time will not get help from any other nation. It is here that the 144,000 Jews who are sealed on their foreheads, will cry to God and God Himself will fight for them. Thus battle is called the battle of Armageddon. This is described in Ezekiel 39, Revelation 19 and Joel 2. Here the beast and his associate, the false prophet will be caught and cast into the lake of fire (Rev. 19:20). This takes place at the end of the tribulation or before the Millennium starts.

    The final appearance of Gog is at the end of the Millennium when Satan is left loose. “And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, and shall go out to deceive the nations, which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog” (Rev. 20: 7-8). Satan works again as the chief prince; but is finally judged.” And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever” (Rev. 20:10). The coming of the Lord is very near.


    Kingdom of Rome coming to power:
    " And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom which shall never all be destroyed." (Dan. 2:44). "In the days of these kings" is otherwise in the days of the ten toes; rising out of the Roman Empire. "And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken." (Dan.2:42). The same thing is defined in Rev.17:12. "And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast."

    Rome is coming to power in the name of Gog or Russia. After the Second World War, the whole of Eastern Europe fell into the hand of the Russians. Now the Western Europe is forming a European Economic Society or Common Market consisting of ten nations. They are France, Belgium, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Italy, West Germany, Britain, Ireland, Norway and Denmark. There were only six nations in confederation, the first named six; but there is a great move to unite the other four also. These ten nations are otherwise ten kings. They want to remain as one nation or kingdom. But after the return of Christ, when the antichrist or Gog comes to power, they will join hands with him. Read Rev. 17:13. "These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast." Rome is coming back to power.

    So we can already see the ugly head of the antichrist peeping through the troubled sea of nations. The Lord's coming is very near - let us get ready.

    7. Signs in the sun and the moon:
    " And there shall be signs in the sun and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring." (Lk. 21:25). On July 14th 1969 the first-ever manned satellite landed on the moon and since then, there were other explorations and probes made on the moon. What else is going to take place we do not know. These are signs of the return of Christ. Distress of nations - since the last world war, the nations of the world are in increasing distress. The greatest problem of the nations is the millions and millions of uprooted people called evacuees or refugees, such as, the Palestinians, the Pakistanis, Tibetans, etc.

    They are helpless and without the necessities of life, and subject to all kinds of sicknesses, and privations. And it has great distressing effects on the nations of the world.

    8. Civil wars in diverse places; famines:
    Labour strikes, labour against the employers and employees against their managements.

    Student strikes, social uprisings, Black power movement, Hippy movements, the teenagers problems; these are giving great perplexity to the nations. Jesus is coming soon! Let us get ready to meet Him.

    ' 9. Flood destructions, earthquakes and typhoon destructions are innumerable all over the world. What about accidents of automobiles, air crashes, etc., in diverse places?

    By sea erosions there are immense losses to property and people. In certain places, islands have vanished with their inhabitants. Jesus is coming soon! Let us get ready to meet Him.

    10. Unprecedented discoveries:
    " But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased." (Dan. 12:4).
    1. Electricity
    2. Electronics
    3. Atomic energy or nuclear power
    4. Automobiles crowding the streets
    " The chariots shall rage in the streets, they shall *justle one against another in the broad ways: they shall seem like torches, they shall run like lightnings." (Nah. 2:4).
    5. Aeroplanes
    6. Computers
    7. Laser beams

    There are innumerable other wonderful discoveries in all the walks of life. They are both constructive and destructive, but they will be used more for destruction than construction in the last days as it is said, "Beat your ploughshares into swords, and you pruning hooks into spears: let the weak say I am strong." (Joel 3:10).

    Innumerable destructive weapons are discovered so that nations and their existence itself can be destroyed in a short time. "Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and of the sea; for the devil is come down unto you." (Rev.12:12). Jesus is coming soon! Let us get ready to meet Him.

    11. Population increase:

    This, they say, is the greatest problem of humanity. If the population grows at this rate, they say within another ten years, the earth will sink under the burden of it; people may have to eat one another for mere existence. The prophecy in Deut. 28:52 will be fulfilled. Under the pretext of population curb, they have relaxed all moral laws, such as abortions, sodomy, use of cosmetics, sterilization, family planning, etc.

    12. Pollution of air, water and land :
    This is causing great anxiety in the hearts of the leaders of the world. As industries grow, pollution also increases and the same is the effect of the increase of population. If air, water and land are polluted, then existence will be impossible. This is a foretaste of the great tribulation, as we read in Rev. 16:1-7.
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    Signs of the Second Advent of Christ

    European Economic Society or Common Market:

    This was at first formed of six Nations, as explained before, viz., France, Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg, Italy and West Germany and four more will join them and become one united state like that of America. The other four are Ireland, England Norway and Denmark. This union will take place by the beginning of 1973, in spite of opposition in England and in Europe. This is a fulfilment of the word of God (Read Rev. 17:12-13). "And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings...these have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast". It means they will play themselves into the Communist group of Eastern Europe and Russia. That time is drawing nigh. Jesus is coming soon! Let us get ready.

    People losing natural affection:

    Children against parents, brother against sister, sister against brother, etc "This know also, that in the last days, perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their ownselves... without natural affection... traitors...having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof; from such turn away" (2 Tim. 3:1-5). If we carefully consider the above verses we shall see that never in the history of humanity did people come to this state of degradation as we see today.

    At the close of the last Great World War with the loss of so many men in the battle, there was a very large majority of women left in the countries of Europe and Asia and most of these lost their sense of morality. A new generation with very little sense of morality has since risen up. Permissiveness is the law of this society. Everything is permitted and no check is made. This results in their moral, spiritual and physical destruction. The coming of the Lord is at hand, let us get ready.

    (15) Apostasy in Christendom; R. C system coming to power again:

    Although this is mentioned last it is not the least. "Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on earth?" (Luke.18: 8). ''Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first" (2 Thess. 2:3).

    Although apostasy set into the Church of God by the second or third century, yet God sent revivals into it from time to time. The Lutheran revival of the 16th century is the most noteworthy, and widely spread.
     

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    The awful persecution and the resultant death of millions of Protestant believers are historical facts. But through sufferings and very cruel deaths they established the Protestant truths which were apostolic truth, which was lost to the apostate church. Thereafter God raised up many other noble reformers, to fight against the Roman Catholic errors and its teachings. But with the start of the 20th century, God is pouring out His Holy Spirit, and bringing to light all the apostolic doctrines as a climax of the revival. But side by side, with this revival there is an evident move of apostasy. The Protestant and the Orthodox Churches which stood for a measure of truth are giving up their faith and are joining hands with the Roman Catholics. People are giving up their faith in the fundamental doctrines, and are joining hands with the R.C. group to form one association. This is what is exactly predicted in Rev. 13:11-16. There will be an ecclesiastical group which will be the state religion during the seven years' tribulation. That will be an apostate Church with a leader called the false prophet. The same thing is predicted in Rev. 17 also. "So he carried me away in the Spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns." (Rev.17:3). The woman here is the fallen, apostate Church, and the scarlet coloured beast is the state or kingdom ruled by the antichrist. They will work together to persecute the remnant of the Church, which will be left behind at the coming of Christ.



    SIGNS OF THE LAST DAYS

    Incidents all around the world indicate the imminent return of the Lord Jesus as foretold by Him centuries ago. Citing three immediate visible signs, the author admonishes people of God to watch and be ready for the coming of the Lord lest they find themselves a victim of the Tribulation…

    “As He sat upon the Mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us when shall these things be? And what shall be the sign of thy coming and of the end of the world?”(Matt. 24:3). In answer to this query of His disciples, Jesus listed out a number of signs that would herald His secret and imminent return, some of them being wars and rumours of wars, famines, pestilences and earthquakes which are the beginning of sorrows.

    Are we at this moment taking time to consider our own preparation to meet the Lord when He appears? No man knoweth the day or the hour of His coming, no, not even the angels in heaven, or the Son, save the Father. The day of redemption, the final salvation of the perfected saints is drawing nigh, for the current events of the world prove the veracity of this unique phenomenon.

    Matthew 24:7,6 read: “For nation shall rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom…. all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet”, the truth of which is evident in the following distinct signs observed in the world today.

    Revival of the Roman Empire

    The European Community leaders held an emergency summit meet at Rome on 28.10.1990 and they decided in favour of an Economic and Monetary Union (EMU) which will have effect from 1.1.1994. They also decided to reform the EC treaties to take the major new community changes into account. Although the former British Prime Minister expressed dissent, all the leaders agreed on a political union, which will follow the Economic Union.

    As a pace setter, a similar development took place in Germany. East Germany and West Germany first agreed on an Economic and Monetary Union and soon after, they were united politically. The Germany that was divided after the Second World War was united again after a lapse of 45 years, on 3rd October, 1990. After having succeeded in uniting both Germanys, Chancellor Koh declared that the next attempt would be to unite Europe.

    Most of the European countries formed part of the mighty Roman Empire which dominated the world for many centuries. The Roman Empire became powerful after the fall of the Greek Empire in B.C.167. When our Lord was on this earth, it was at the peak of its power and glory. The Roman Governor Pilate condemned Jesus to be crucified. It continued to be mighty till A.D.395 when it was divided into two - the Western Empire and the Eastern Empire. The Western Empire came to an end in A.D.476 and the Eastern Empire in A.D.1453.


    After the fall of the Roman Empire, Europe remained divided as several countries, which fought among themselves. Two World Wars have been fought in the first half of this century. It is significant to observe that they want to unite into one economic power which will be followed by political union. This historic process of unification of Europe commenced with the signing of the signing of the Treaty of Rome on 25th March, 1957 by six countries, viz., Italy, France, West Germany, Belgium, Netherlands and Luxembourg. Now they have decided in favour of a complete Economic and Monetary Union with effect from 1.1.1994, which will be followed by a political union. Political unification of the European countries will be precisely the revival of the old Roman Empire.


    The revival of the Roman Empire in the last days is as foretold in the word of God. The antichrist (Beast) who will rule the whole world for seven years during the Tribulation Period has to come from the revived Roman Empire. He will exercise diabolical powers and many will worship him and others will be afraid to fight him. “And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? Who is able to make war with him?” (Rev. 13:4).


    The Return of the Jews

    Israel which was a glorious nation in the days of David and Solomon, ceased to exist as a nation when it was defeated and destroyed by the Babylonian King Nebuchadnezzar in B.C. 606. They were scattered all over the world due to repeated persecutions when they were ruled by different world empires. It is in the word of God that they will be gathered together and revived as a nation in the last days. “Thus saith the Lord God: Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land”(Ezek. 37:21). 'This prophecy began to be fulfilled when Israel became a nation again in May 1948. The children of Israel are returning to their homeland and becoming prosperous as foretold in the word of God.


    The deserts are blossoming and there is phenomenal, technological and industrial growth. The leaders of Israel have decided to build up the nation on the basis of the laws and commandments as given by Moses and the prophets of the Old Testament. However there is one important thing that they lack - the temple and worship. They are eager to rebuild the temple and are making all-out preparations. The location of this temple has to be Mount Moriah where Solomon's temple stood. The only remnant of the Jewish temple is part of the outer wall which is known as the “wailing wall”. The Word of God gives the indication that the temple shall be built soon. During the days of the antichrist, he will make a covenant with Israel and be favourable to them for the first three and a half years. But after the temple is completed, the antichrist will demand worship at the temple and this will break his relationship with Israel and the great tribulation for Israel will start. “When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place…then shall be great tribulation, such as was not seen since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be”(Matt. 24:15-21).

    Vultures in Israel

    It is reported that a new breed of vultures has appeared in Israel, a breed never seen before. These vultures are multiplying at three times the normal rate. This appears to be a preparation for the great battle at Armageddon. The armies of many countries will march against Israel under the leadership of the antichrist (Rev. 16:13-16). A decisive battle will be fought at Armageddon when the Lord will fight the battle for Israel. A great judgment will come upon the armies of the nations and many will die and that will be a feast for the fowls of the air. “And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men…”(Rev. 19:17,18).
     

    sanjeeme

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    The awful persecution and the resultant death of millions of Protestant believers are historical facts. But through sufferings and very cruel deaths they established the Protestant truths which were apostolic truth, which was lost to the apostate church. Thereafter God raised up many other noble reformers, to fight against the Roman Catholic errors and its teachings. But with the start of the 20th century, God is pouring out His Holy Spirit, and bringing to light all the apostolic doctrines as a climax of the revival. But side by side, with this revival there is an evident move of apostasy. The Protestant and the Orthodox Churches which stood for a measure of truth are giving up their faith and are joining hands with the Roman Catholics. People are giving up their faith in the fundamental doctrines, and are joining hands with the R.C. group to form one association. This is what is exactly predicted in Rev. 13:11-16. There will be an ecclesiastical group which will be the state religion during the seven years' tribulation. That will be an apostate Church with a leader called the false prophet. The same thing is predicted in Rev. 17 also. "So he carried me away in the Spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns." (Rev.17:3). The woman here is the fallen, apostate Church, and the scarlet coloured beast is the state or kingdom ruled by the antichrist. They will work together to persecute the remnant of the Church, which will be left behind at the coming of Christ.



    SIGNS OF THE LAST DAYS

    Incidents all around the world indicate the imminent return of the Lord Jesus as foretold by Him centuries ago. Citing three immediate visible signs, the author admonishes people of God to watch and be ready for the coming of the Lord lest they find themselves a victim of the Tribulation…

    “As He sat upon the Mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us when shall these things be? And what shall be the sign of thy coming and of the end of the world?”(Matt. 24:3). In answer to this query of His disciples, Jesus listed out a number of signs that would herald His secret and imminent return, some of them being wars and rumours of wars, famines, pestilences and earthquakes which are the beginning of sorrows.

    Are we at this moment taking time to consider our own preparation to meet the Lord when He appears? No man knoweth the day or the hour of His coming, no, not even the angels in heaven, or the Son, save the Father. The day of redemption, the final salvation of the perfected saints is drawing nigh, for the current events of the world prove the veracity of this unique phenomenon.

    Matthew 24:7,6 read: “For nation shall rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom…. all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet”, the truth of which is evident in the following distinct signs observed in the world today.

    Revival of the Roman Empire

    The European Community leaders held an emergency summit meet at Rome on 28.10.1990 and they decided in favour of an Economic and Monetary Union (EMU) which will have effect from 1.1.1994. They also decided to reform the EC treaties to take the major new community changes into account. Although the former British Prime Minister expressed dissent, all the leaders agreed on a political union, which will follow the Economic Union.

    As a pace setter, a similar development took place in Germany. East Germany and West Germany first agreed on an Economic and Monetary Union and soon after, they were united politically. The Germany that was divided after the Second World War was united again after a lapse of 45 years, on 3rd October, 1990. After having succeeded in uniting both Germanys, Chancellor Koh declared that the next attempt would be to unite Europe.

    Most of the European countries formed part of the mighty Roman Empire which dominated the world for many centuries. The Roman Empire became powerful after the fall of the Greek Empire in B.C.167. When our Lord was on this earth, it was at the peak of its power and glory. The Roman Governor Pilate condemned Jesus to be crucified. It continued to be mighty till A.D.395 when it was divided into two - the Western Empire and the Eastern Empire. The Western Empire came to an end in A.D.476 and the Eastern Empire in A.D.1453.


    After the fall of the Roman Empire, Europe remained divided as several countries, which fought among themselves. Two World Wars have been fought in the first half of this century. It is significant to observe that they want to unite into one economic power which will be followed by political union. This historic process of unification of Europe commenced with the signing of the signing of the Treaty of Rome on 25th March, 1957 by six countries, viz., Italy, France, West Germany, Belgium, Netherlands and Luxembourg. Now they have decided in favour of a complete Economic and Monetary Union with effect from 1.1.1994, which will be followed by a political union. Political unification of the European countries will be precisely the revival of the old Roman Empire.


    The revival of the Roman Empire in the last days is as foretold in the word of God. The antichrist (Beast) who will rule the whole world for seven years during the Tribulation Period has to come from the revived Roman Empire. He will exercise diabolical powers and many will worship him and others will be afraid to fight him. “And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? Who is able to make war with him?” (Rev. 13:4).


    The Return of the Jews

    Israel which was a glorious nation in the days of David and Solomon, ceased to exist as a nation when it was defeated and destroyed by the Babylonian King Nebuchadnezzar in B.C. 606. They were scattered all over the world due to repeated persecutions when they were ruled by different world empires. It is in the word of God that they will be gathered together and revived as a nation in the last days. “Thus saith the Lord God: Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land”(Ezek. 37:21). 'This prophecy began to be fulfilled when Israel became a nation again in May 1948. The children of Israel are returning to their homeland and becoming prosperous as foretold in the word of God.


    The deserts are blossoming and there is phenomenal, technological and industrial growth. The leaders of Israel have decided to build up the nation on the basis of the laws and commandments as given by Moses and the prophets of the Old Testament. However there is one important thing that they lack - the temple and worship. They are eager to rebuild the temple and are making all-out preparations. The location of this temple has to be Mount Moriah where Solomon's temple stood. The only remnant of the Jewish temple is part of the outer wall which is known as the “wailing wall”. The Word of God gives the indication that the temple shall be built soon. During the days of the antichrist, he will make a covenant with Israel and be favourable to them for the first three and a half years. But after the temple is completed, the antichrist will demand worship at the temple and this will break his relationship with Israel and the great tribulation for Israel will start. “When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place…then shall be great tribulation, such as was not seen since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be”(Matt. 24:15-21).

    Vultures in Israel

    It is reported that a new breed of vultures has appeared in Israel, a breed never seen before. These vultures are multiplying at three times the normal rate. This appears to be a preparation for the great battle at Armageddon. The armies of many countries will march against Israel under the leadership of the antichrist (Rev. 16:13-16). A decisive battle will be fought at Armageddon when the Lord will fight the battle for Israel. A great judgment will come upon the armies of the nations and many will die and that will be a feast for the fowls of the air. “And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men…”(Rev. 19:17,18).

    If you want to expose your religious comments please start new thread. Don't post those here
     

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    ඔබට දේශපාලකයින් හම්බ වෙලා අවංකව ඔය අදහස් පවසලා වැඩක් වෙයි කියලා හිතනවද. මමනම් එහෙම හිතන්නේ නෑ මොකද ඔය බුදු දහමට විරැද්ධව තිබෙන කුමන්ත්‍රන පිළිබද මුලින්ම බෙෘද්ධ සංවිධාන ගිහින් කතා කරන්නේ දේශපාලකයින් එක්ක තමයි නමුත් ඔවුන්ගෙන් උදව් ලැබෙන්නේ ඉතාම සුලු වශයෙන්.

    ඔබට උවමනානම් බෙෘද්ධ කටයුතු පිළිබද ලේකම් වරයා හදුන්වා දෙන්න පුලුවන්. නමුත් ඊට කලින් ඔබේ ප්‍රදේශයේ ඔය ඔය කුමන්ත්‍රන තියෙනවනම් ඒවා හොයලා බලලා වලක්වා ගන්න බලන්න.
    මම දන්නා එහෙම එකක් තියනවා සහෝ මගේ ප්‍රදේශයේ තරුණ බෞද්ද සමිතියක් ක්‍රියාත්මක වී තිබුණි , කලක පටන් එහි සබපතිවරයා මා දන්නා හිටපු අන්‍ය ආගමිකයෙක් (දැන් බෞද්ධ බව කියත්තත් ) වන අතර බෞද්ධයන් වශයෙන් ඔහුව යෝජනා කොට චදයදී පත්කරගන්නේ මන්දෙයි මට ඇති ප්‍රශ්නයකි , එය කියාදීමට මා ඇතුළු පිරිසක් සංවිදානය වී එම මතය සමිතියේ සමහරුන්ට කියාදුන් අතර, මේ වන විට එ සමිතිය ක්‍රියාත්මක නත්තත් සමිතිය ක්‍රියාත්මක වීම වැළකුණේ අලුතින් සබපතිවරයෙක් පත් කරගැනීමෙන් නොවේ එය යලි ක්‍රියාතමක කළහොත් සබපතිවරයා ඔහුමද යන්න මට ගැටලුවකි .එය ක්‍රියාත්මක නොවන බව කීම ගැටලුවට දැමු පලස්තරයක්වේ .එසේ පැලැස්තර නොදා නීතිමය වශයෙන් කටයුතු කල හැකි ක්‍රමවේදයක් නිර්මාණය කලයුතුයි .එය කරන්නේ කොහොමදැයි මට දන්නේ නැත , නමුත් නව නීතින් ගෙන ඒමට ගෙන දේශපාලනය කරන උන්ට බලපෑම් කලයුතු බව මාගේ අදහසයි
     

    Y2K

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    If my father decides to lock me up in the basement for the rest of my life, just because I refused to love him back, would you call that perfect love from his part?

    Why would a father lock a child in the basement if he truly loves him? if the child also perfectly loves back then there wont be a reason to put him there in the first place..and if u implied in terms of protection.. why should he be protected if everyone around perfectly loves the child? love is not a logic or an inclination of choice but it is a matter of a person's disposition.. in deeper thought u come to realize that love is actually a person.. I m not talking about human love..

    Yeah Love is not a thing or merely a human inclination of choice , love comes from a person

    in three words "GOD IS LOVE" :love:


    as for your curiosity.. I go to CPM (Ceylon Pentecostal Mission).. Catholicism is mostly satanic.. most denominations have incorrect interpretations and wrong spiritual involvements..

    God bless you & has given you enough wisdom (true) to understand God's love :yes:
     

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    Sign of the second advent of ChristAbout three hundred prophecies were uttered through the word of God, concerningthe first advent of Christ. And as a fulfilment of these prophecies, Christ came into the world in due time.But about his Second Advent more prophecies are uttered than about the first. Ifthe first prophecies were fulfilled, the second also must be fulfilled, and they are all almost fulfilled before us, and we are witnesses to them.His first advent was to save sinners; i.e., He came to be a ransom for the sinsof the people. But His Second Advent will be to gather His saints together. Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time, without sin unto salvation" (Heb. 9:28). (But to bring to full salvation - Philip translation).This full salvation work in the individual life is to prepare a Church or Body for the Lord Jesus Christ. "And hath put all things under his feet and gave himto be the head over all things to the Church, which is his body, the fulness ofhim that filleth all in all" (Eph. 1:22,23).The building of such a Body was started on the day of Pentecost, by the baptismof the Holy Spirit. St. Paul, writing to the Corinthian Church, explains this."For by one Sprit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free: and have been all made to drink into one Spirit" (I Cor.12:13). This experience was repeated among the believers for some time, say, till the third Century and then ceased. This period according to the Bible is called the "former rain" period. Thereafter this doctrine on the Baptism of the Holy Spirit as a definite and exclusive experience, ceased to be preached: and therefore people lost the experience and the knowledge of it. But God has given us a promise that he would give us the former rain and the latter rain,"Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the Lord your God: for he hath given you the FORMER RAIN moderately, and he will cause to come down for you

    the rain, THE FORMER RAIN, and the LATTER RAIN, in the first month" (Joel 2:23)."Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain" (James 5:7)Baptism of the Holy Spirit is spoken of as a rain, because with this experienceGod reveals, through the Spirit baptised individuals, the doctrines or the truths of Christ (Read Deut. 32: 2,3). "My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speechshall distil as the due, as the small rain upon the tender herb; and as the showers upon the grass; because I will publish the name of the Lord.As He revealed Himself fully in the early days by the baptism of the Holy Spiritor former rain, He is again revealing Himself fully to a people of this generation, by another outpouring which is the latter rain, according to the word of God. This outpouring started with the 20th century, and now it has become universal.The purpose of this outpouring: It is to prepare a people or the Church for HisSecond Coming. This Church is in two parts. (1) The dead (2) The living (see IThess. 4:16,17)."The dead in Christ shall rise first; then we which are ALIVE and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds". So to have a living people to betranslated at the coming of the Lord, they should have all the spiritual experiences of the people who have gone before them. (Read also I Cor. 15:51,52). "Behold I show you a mystery we shall not all sleep, but we shall be changed...andthe dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed".Ministry: The New Testament Church, which is the Body of Christ, cannot be built without God- appointed servants and the gifts of the Holy Spirit. So with thebaptism of the Holy Spirit or by the anointing He sets apart ministers for the Church. And he gave some apostles, and some, prophets, and some evangelists, andsome pastors and teachers for the perfecting of the body of Christ" (Eph. 4: 11,12). These offices are determined by the gifts of the Holy Spirit, which are distributed according to one's calling (Read Rom. 12:6-8). "Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith...he that sheweth mercy, with cheerfulness". The ministers of the Church must maintain their ministries by consecration. Unless a man forsakes his all he cannot be God's disciple" (Luke 14:33). A servant of God should be wholly given to the Church, and he should have nothing tocall his own. He should not be bound or confined to one place, country, language or people, because the Church is universal.The purpose of the ministry: "Whom we preach warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom, that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus" (Col. 1.28). This preaching should be according to the revelation of the mysteryof Christ. "That God would open unto us a door of utterance to speak the mystery of Christ (Col. 4:3 also Rom. 16:25).This work is called the resuscitation of the Church; or bringing the Church backto its pristine glory. People could not believe that such a thing could ever take place; but thank God He is fulfilling His promise. As it is told "Not by might, nor by power, but by my Spirit, saith the Lord of hosts" (Zech. 4:6). God is doing what is impossible with man. So let us get ready for the coming of the Lord by receiving the baptism of the Holy Spirit. He is coming for a people who are sanctified by the Holy Spirit. "And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless untothe coming of our Lord Jesus Christ" (I Thess. 5:23)

    Return of the remnant of Israel:"And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set His hand again the second time to recover the remnant of His people" (Is. 11:11).Here the prophecy is concerning THAT DAY. It is not a day of 24 hours that he speaks of. If we read the previous verses in that chapter we shall understand that he is speaking about the thousand year's reign of peace and righteousness on this earth. Before it starts Israel will have to be gathered a second time formthe four corners of the earth (Is. 11:12). This, as the prophet says is an ensign for the nations of the earth; an ensign to us that the time for the millenniumis at hand, and before that Christ should return. Here it is good for us to study in brief the history of Israel.God had promised Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the land of Canaan for an inheritance(Deut. 6:10). But this promise was on a covenant that Israel, their children,kept the commandments of God.

    Brother this has fullfilled in 1948 right? correct me if i'm wrong
     

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    If my father decides to lock me up in the basement for the rest of my life, just because I refused to love him back, would you call that perfect love from his part?



    Yeah Love is not a thing or merely a human inclination of choice , love comes from a person

    in three words "GOD IS LOVE" :love:




    God bless you & has given you enough wisdom (true) to understand God's love :yes:
    එහෙමද ? අපිට වැඩක් නැ බන් ඒවා , උබලගේ උන්ට කියල දීපන්කො මචන් , උබ කොච්චර කිව්වත් උබේ එකේ මෙහෙම තියනවා එහෙම තියනවා කියල අපි එකට එන්නේ නැ ,එන එකෙක් එයි , අනිත් එක බව්ධ්ධයන් කරන නූල් වලට ඇවිත් එක වැරදියි මගේ එකේ මෙහෙම තියනවා කියල කිව්වොත් බව්ධ්ධයෝ ඔක්කොම ඇත්තනේ ඔයාගේ එකනේ හරි කියල කියයිද ? ඔයාගේ ධර්මයේ තියන වාක්‍ය අපට උලුප්ප දැක්වීමෙන් තේරුමක් නැහැ ,4:9 :0 කියල අංක තියන මොකක්දෝ එකක් තියනවා වගේ තමයි මටනම් එක පෙනෙන්නේ ,ඔයා හිතන විදියට අපි නිරයට ගිහින් දුක් විදිනම් අපි එක බලාගන්නම් ඔබට අදාල නොවේ , මේකටත් ඔයාගේ එකේ මෙසේ කියා ඇත කියල උත්තර දෙන්නේ නැතුව ,නවත්තගන්ඩ , ඔයාගේ මතය ගෙනියන්ඩ ඔයාගේ නූලක් හද ගන්ඩ , ඔයාලගේ පල්ලි වලට ඇවිත් අපේ ධර්මය ඔයාලට දේශනා කරන්ඩ එන්නේ නෙන ? ඔයාගේ මතය දරන අයත් එක්ක ඒවා සාකච්චා කරන්ඩ ...ය එකට උත්තර දෙන්ඩ ඔයාගේ ධර්මය පාවිච්චි කරන්නේ නැතුව නියම මහත්ම ගති ඇති මහත්මයකු ලෙස මේක නවත්වන්න , බැරිනම් ඔබට උගන්වා ඇත්තේ ඔයාගේ එකට එන්ඩකෝ එන්ඩකෝ එන්ඩකෝ කියා කන්කෙදිරි ගෑම බව අපිට තීරණය කරන්ඩ වේවි , එය එසේ නොවේ නම් එය ක්‍රියාවෙන් ඔප්පුකොට පෙන්වන්න යයි ම අබියෝග කරමි ...අදහස් වලට ස්තුතියි ..