ඇයි අපේ රටට මෙහෙම උනේ ?

[dath kimbula]

'හැමෝම' සුපර්මාකට් යන වාතාවරණයක් හැදෙන්නේ නෑනේ ධනවාදෙන් එකනේ ප්‍රශ්නේ...

මම කියන්නේ 100% ධනවාදය ගැන නෙවේ කුකුලෝ......
මම කියන්නේ හයිබ්‍රිඩ් ක්‍රමයක් ගැන....

 

[KasunKDP]

Machanz, mata nam hithenne Pessimist kiyana deya wadaath hari kiyala (partially correct)
Oya hithana widiha godak depression-oriented
Oya siraawatama duk windala thiyena nisa oyage intelligence eka duka wasan kara atha
(no offense, this is the truth) later when you are less pained, you will realise it

Mama mehema oyage points tikata debate karannam:

Income distribution difference is not the root of unhappiness
Salli or wealth thibbath minissu happy naha

Happiness kiyanne ape athulaanthayen ena deyak saha eka apita mawaa gana haki
Happiness depends on the person Machanz

Even if a person is poor, he can be and act cheerful...

Poor kiyala kiyanne unfortunate circumstance ekak... ekin galawenna balanna ona

Duppath wee ipadeema samaajaya nisa wenna athi but samaaajaya thamai eke waradi kaarayaa kiyana eka piliganna baha... (godak deerga lesa kiyanna haki me gana)

And the other thing, if you minimise the unhappiness difference,
it means the happy people get less happy.. do you get it?

So you are telling us to make others less happy in order to make another set of people happier?
You are a dictator

well,

"Salli or wealth thibbath minissu happy naha"

they are happier than the poor.


"Happiness depends on the person Machanz "

happiness depends on infinite factors im talking about one of the
most affected and 'systematically controllable' factors.

Even if a person is poor, he can be and act cheerful...

yes, rarely. just because someone laugh dosen't mean he is happy, and also ask him about satisfaction.

"So you are telling us to make others less happy in order to make another set of people happier?"
yes, obviously rich people don't like it. that why we still have capitalist society

 

[Sri Lankan Editor]

this is my understanding. no 2 regions are similar. water resources, plants, land they are all different and therefore it's obvious that the same culture and lifestyle won't succeed in every corner in this planet. people living in one region need their own lifestyle with their own culture while people living in another region would wreak havoc both on them and the environment if tried to live according to a culture that's strange to that region.

but unfortunately that's what we are doing right now. we are promoting a culture for every society. our modern culture is maintained at a great cost. we have to transport resources over thousands of miles just to keep the society going for few hours. one simple mistake is enough to bring destruction to this modern way of living and it's only a matter of time until it happens.

what we should promote is diversity, people living in different areas according to different cultures that best utilize the environment present at those different areas. societies should be self sustainable and we should understand a non zero sum game is not possible forever in a limited planet.

this way of living is popularized by colonialists who thought colonialism would last forever. but experience taught them otherwise and they had to give up on that paradigm. but still the mindset that made them think colonialism would succeed forever is naturally making them think colonialism over natural resources would fuel our modern culture forever. but this really is not the case. we should adapt to a new way of living that doesn't see nature as a slave.

Machanz , Yes, definitely have to agree with your statement that "self sustainable society" is the way to go as far as I can understand
I might be wrong because globalisation has made self-sustainabiltiy a hopeless dream

Even if it is impossible in some scenarios, almost self-sustainbility is better than nothing...

I think your stance on eco-friendliness etc. is great and it should be so
but we have no control over the actual (evil) rulers of our global society
Whether we like it or not, evil nature-destroying agendas were there before, it is now, and it will be there until the end of this current physcial world.


Machanz, colonialists were there from the start of recorded history and it is still there...
Colonialists, mama kiyanne siraawatama adirajya waadin, oya kiyana widihata hithuwa colonialism would last (almost) forever and they are correct

Today, every area is under direct or indirect colonialism
There are good aspects there too but also bad aspects and we do not have the power to alter it...
Btw we are thinking and debating like this because of colonialism in Sri Lanka

I don't understand your point on diversity, are you saying diversity as in multiculturalism or sustainability / resources-wise?

 

[KasunKDP]

මම කියන්නේ 100% ධනවාදය ගැන නෙවේ කුකුලෝ......
මම කියන්නේ හයිබ්‍රිඩ් ක්‍රමයක් ගැන....

දැනට තියන ආර්ථිකේ දක්ෂිනාංශික වැඩි..ex:- සමුර්දිය 3000යි

 

[Sri Lankan Editor]

well,

"Salli or wealth thibbath minissu happy naha"

they are happier than the poor.

"Happiness depends on the person Machanz "

happiness depends on infinite factors im talking about one of the
most affected and 'systematically controllable' factors.

Even if a person is poor, he can be and act cheerful...

yes, rarely. just because someone laugh dosen't mean he is happy, and also ask him about satisfaction.

"So you are telling us to make others less happy in order to make another set of people happier?"
yes, obviously rich people don't like it. that why we still have capitalist society

I see, when you said, happiness you meant satisfaction
I meant happiness... the emotion / feeling of happiness.. which can be generated at will by a change of heart/mind (try it)
(I too realised it later than I wanted)
.... which again is what some religions are saying

I think you should first define what you mean by the terms you use - happiness etc.

Good rich people will like it but some will not like it because most rich people worked very hard to get there and they are giving back to society

Have to agree that the unfortunate should be helped but not by destroying what works well in society
If you were President, you will destroy Colombo and take 24 parts of it to the other 24 districts
This will result in the sudden destruction of Sri Lanka...
Capitalism walin diyunu wuna aya nisa thamai Lankawa mehemawath thiyenne, e.g. Elakiri wage ewa

I think your views on far left socialism are dangerous and should be eliminated I will give you exactly 24 hours to change it

 

[Sri Lankan Editor]

දැනට තියන ආර්ථිකේ දක්ෂිනාංශික වැඩි..ex:- සමුර්දිය 3000යි

Yes piliganimi..
Sri Lankawe dekama thiyenawa....
Capitalism plus some sort of socialism
Which, again, has failed Sri Lanka, except for some people, like globalist businessmen and politicians


But I feel ape Samurdiya wage ewa hariyata karoth, mita wada unhappy aya adu wei

 

[KasunKDP]

I see, when you said, happiness you meant satisfaction
I meant happiness... the emotion / feeling of happiness.. which can be generated at will by a change of heart/mind (try it)
(I too realised it later than I wanted)
.... which again is what some religions are saying

I think you should first define what you mean by the terms you use - happiness etc.

Good rich people will like it but some will not like it because most rich people worked very hard to get there and they are giving back to society

Have to agree that the unfortunate should be helped but not by destroying what works well in society
If you were President, you will destroy Colombo and take 24 parts of it to the other 24 districts
This will result in the sudden destruction of Sri Lanka...
Capitalism walin diyunu wuna aya nisa thamai Lankawa mehemawath thiyenne, e.g. Elakiri wage ewa

I think your views on far left socialism are dangerous and should be eliminated I will give you exactly 24 hours to change it

i used the word happiness in a general sense,,, the common good feeling.

from your input i feel that u haven't thought about the philosophy behind the socialism.

people are lucky to be born into rich good families, and unlucky to be born into bad families. even if u consider other factors, its fundamentally luck which matters.

even if i consider your example.

"because most rich people worked very hard to get there"

ability to work hard itself is a skill. some people don't have it.

if u are poor, uneducated and don't have the energy to 'rise from nowhere' , u will hardly live a good life in this society.

its inhumane to let 'luck' determine the quality of human life.

 

[KasunKDP]

Yes piliganimi..
Sri Lankawe dekama thiyenawa....
Capitalism plus some sort of socialism
Which, again, has failed Sri Lanka, except for some people, like globalist businessmen and politicians


But I feel ape Samurdiya wage ewa hariyata karoth, mita wada unhappy aya adu wei

 

[Pessimist]

Machanz , Yes, definitely have to agree with your statement that "self sustainable society" is the way to go as far as I can understand
I might be wrong because globalisation has made self-sustainabiltiy a hopeless dream

Even if it is impossible in some scenarios, almost self-sustainbility is better than nothing...

I think your stance on eco-friendliness etc. is great and it should be so
but we have no control over the actual (evil) rulers of our global society
Whether we like it or not, evil nature-destroying agendas were there before, it is now, and it will be there until the end of this current physcial world.


Machanz, colonialists were there from the start of recorded history and it is still there...
Colonialists, mama kiyanne siraawatama adirajya waadin, oya kiyana widihata hithuwa colonialism would last (almost) forever and they are correct

Today, every area is under direct or indirect colonialism
There are good aspects there too but also bad aspects and we do not have the power to alter it...
Btw we are thinking and debating like this because of colonialism in Sri Lanka

I don't understand your point on diversity, are you saying diversity as in multiculturalism or sustainability / resources-wise?

colonialism cannot last for a long time. colonialism was maintained by acquiring more and more land, depleting the resources that has grown their for many centuries within a short period of time. they would have to keep continue invading other countries if this way was to continue and the number of lands that can be captured is not infinite. they are limited and colonialism was doomed to fail after all possible countries were captured.

this is exactly what happened with rome. and we are doing the same thing regarding natural resources. natural resources are not infinite and we too are doomed to fail. But in our case it's not running out of resources what would destroy our culture, it's unprecedented effects like global warming which would bring the destruction to us. so in that sense modern way of living is more limited than the colonialism.

it's true civilizations have been invading other countries long before britain or spain or rome. but their reasons were different. they invaded a country simply steal some particular thing or as a revenge. most of them didn't even aware of the possibility of maintaining their country by stealing other countries' resources because their mindset was against such a concept. for example columbus's fleet was an ant compared to what china had around 1200 and 1300. but then current emperor didn't invade other countries to maintain their civilization because their mindset was completely different. and if i remember correctly that civilization lasted more than 1000 years. compare it with our modern global civilization. i think ours is not older than 500 years and we are already facing unprecedented global threats. perhaps we would hit the record as the most advanced and most destructive civilization that has ever existed on this planet.

what i meant by diversity is the importance of maintaining cultures other than dominating western one. the problems we are facing today are results of the western way of living and those problems cannot be solved inside that paradigm. our path inevitably leads towards a self sustaining small units.

 

[0Dinesh0]

ඔව් මචන්, ඔය මතය හරි පීඩිත පුද්ගලයන් ගෙන් බහුතරයකගේ පැත්තෙන් බැලුවොත්

Mama thawa deyak ekathu karannam

...Namuth, samahara ayata deshapremiya saha rata wikunana eka wadagath
but siraawata duk windina minissunta owa wadak naha mokada jeevithe aththa prashna hithaa ganna bari widihata katukai

Api me internet eke kiuwata, internet eke upset post daana hamoma wage deshapremiya gana kathaa karaata,
eyala siraa wata ma life eke duk windala thiyena waa nam,
owa gana hithanne naha, hithuwath wadak wenne naha mokada eyala egana kisi deyak karaganna nohaki nisa
(no offense to internet posters)

Namuth, rata wikunana ewa hamathissema wunaa, saha ewata hari lesa wirudda wena eka hodha deyak kiyala thamai mama dakinne

මෙතන මතවාදීමය වෙනසක් රටට ඔනාකරන්නේ.. දනවාදය හෝ සමාජවාදය හෝ වේවා, ක්‍රියාත්මක කිරීමේදී එහි අන්තර්ගතය ක්‍රියාවට නැංවිලා නැහැ. එකයි අවුල. අද මිනිස්සු අහන ප්‍රශ්න දිහා බලන්න. ජාත්යන්තරේ කන්නද කියලා මම හිතන්නේ කියුබාවවත් අහන්නේ නැහැ. වියට්නාමය හොද උදාහරණයක්. උතුරු කොරියාවත් ජාත්යන්තරේ ප්‍රතික්ෂේප කරන්නේ නැහැ. නමුත් ලංකාවේ එක දනවාදී පිලක් කියනවා චිනේ එපා කියලා. අනිත් දනවාදී පිල කියනවා ඇමෙරිකාව ප්‍රදාන යුරෝපේ එපා කියලා. මේ දෙකෙන්ම ගම්‍යවෙන මිනිස්සු කියන්නේ ජාත්‍යන්තරේ හොල්සෙල් එපා කියලා. රටේ තත්වය ඉතාමත් නරකයි මේ මතේ ඉන්නකොට.

 

[Pessimist]

මෙතන මතවාදීමය වෙනසක් රටට ඔනාකරන්නේ.. දනවාදය හෝ සමාජවාදය හෝ වේවා, ක්‍රියාත්මක කිරීමේදී එහි අන්තර්ගතය ක්‍රියාවට නැංවිලා නැහැ. එකයි අවුල. අද මිනිස්සු අහන ප්‍රශ්න දිහා බලන්න. ජාත්යන්තරේ කන්නද කියලා මම හිතන්නේ කියුබාවවත් අහන්නේ නැහැ. වියට්නාමය හොද උදාහරණයක්. උතුරු කොරියාවත් ජාත්යන්තරේ ප්‍රතික්ෂේප කරන්නේ නැහැ. නමුත් ලංකාවේ එක දනවාදී පිලක් කියනවා චිනේ එපා කියලා. අනිත් දනවාදී පිල කියනවා ඇමෙරිකාව ප්‍රදාන යුරෝපේ එපා කියලා. මේ දෙකෙන්ම ගම්‍යවෙන මිනිස්සු කියන්නේ ජාත්‍යන්තරේ හොල්සෙල් එපා කියලා. රටේ තත්වය ඉතාමත් නරකයි මේ මතේ ඉන්නකොට.

ලංකාවෙ කිසිම මනුස්සයෙක් ඔය එක රටක්වත් එපා කියන්නෙ නෑ. මිනිස්සු විරුද්ධ වෙන රටවල් වලිං ලංකාවට කරන බලපෑම් වලට. ලංකාවෙ කිසිම මනුස්සයෙක් ජපානෙ එපා කියල තියෙනවද ? අනවශ්‍ය බලපෑම් කරන්නැතුව ඒ රටේ ක්‍රමේට එ් රට පවත්වගෙන යන්න ඉඩ දීල වෙලඳාම් කරන්න සම්බන්ධකං පවත්වන කිසිම රටකට කිසිම රටක මිනිස්සු විරුද්ධ වෙන්නෙ නෑ.

 

[0Dinesh0]

ලංකාවෙ කිසිම මනුස්සයෙක් ඔය එක රටක්වත් එපා කියන්නෙ නෑ. මිනිස්සු විරුද්ධ වෙන රටවල් වලිං ලංකාවට කරන බලපෑම් වලට. ලංකාවෙ කිසිම මනුස්සයෙක් ජපානෙ එපා කියල තියෙනවද ? අනවශ්‍ය බලපෑම් කරන්නැතුව ඒ රටේ ක්‍රමේට එ් රට පවත්වගෙන යන්න ඉඩ දීල වෙලඳාම් කරන්න සම්බන්ධකං පවත්වන කිසිම රටකට කිසිම රටක මිනිස්සු විරුද්ධ වෙන්නෙ නෑ.

ඔන්න ඔය අනවශ්‍යයි කියන බලපෑම කුලකයට ලගු නොකර කියපන් මොකක්ද බලපෑම කියලා. එතකොට අපිට තීරණය කරන්න පුළුවනි, එක අවශ්‍යද/අනවශ්‍යද කියලා.

 

[aravinda28]

කතානායකට ඇත්තටම ප්‍රජාතන්ත්‍රවාදය රකින්න ඌන නම් කරන්න තිබ්බේ මරා ගේ ආණ්ඩුව පිළිඅරන් නියම ක්‍රමේට විස්වාසභංගයක් ගෙන්න කටයුතු කරන්න කියල UNP/JVP එකට උපදෙස් දෙන එක....

කලින් රාජිතට ගෙනාව විශ්වාසභංගය මේ වෙනකන් නෑ....එහෙම කරපු හාදයා තමා මේ හදිස්සියේ විනාඩි ගානකින් ස්ථාවර නියෝග අත්හිටුවලා මේක ගේන්නේ....

මේ ප්‍රශ්නෙට කෙලින්ම වගකියන්න ඕනේ කරු....

මහින්ද රාජපක්ෂ ආණ්ඩුව පිලිගන්නත් බෑ ඒක සම්පුර්ණයෙන්ම ව්‍යවස්ථා විරෝදී.ඒක තමයි ප්‍රශ්නේ මුල.
නියම ක්‍රමේට කරන්න ඕනෑකමක් තිබ්බනම් පාර්ලිමේන්තුව කල් දාන්නෙත් නෑ විසුරුවන්නෙත් නෑ.
කරු අල්ලන් කන්න හදන්නේ උන්ගේ plan එකේ weak point එක තමයි කරූ.
කතානායක ජනාධිපත්ටත් උඩින් ඉන්නේ පාර්ලිමේන්තුවේ.

 

[Pessimist]

ඔන්න ඔය අනවශ්‍යයි කියන බලපෑම කුලකයට ලගු නොකර කියපන් මොකක්ද බලපෑම කියලා. එතකොට අපිට තීරණය කරන්න පුළුවනි, එක අවශ්‍යද/අනවශ්‍යද කියලා.

how to punish criminals, what should be legal and illegal in media, what should be legalized and not in our society, who violates humans rights and who don't etc.

 

[Opinion]

kala guna salakimata wada aathmarathakami chinthanaya mekata godak balapaala athi. thamanta rassawak aran denawa kiyala kiwwa nam duwala gihilla chande daana minissu me ratey inne. padi wadi karala denawa kiwwath ehemamamai. kohenda padi wadi karala denne , kaage salli walinda padi wadi karala denne kiyana eka me ayata adaala naha. pension eka wadi karala denawa kiwwath me aya chande daai. anun gana hithanne nathuwa thaman gana witharak hithana jana kotasak innakan me aathme me rata goda enne naha

 

[Vandetta]

this is an overly simplistic picture of the real situation. I'm not praising socialism. but you are missing the damage capitalism is doing to our eco system. almost all the problems humanity faces today are results of capitalism. global warming, climate change, species going extinct. try to how something affects the whole not just parts.

how come china is on the top of pollution?

 

[EXCELSIOR]

Wadak nathi dewal mewa

 

[Political]

දැන් නම් කෙළවෙන්න ප්‍රදාන හේතුව කරුවල ජයසුරිය ගේ අමන කම......

ඒ වගේම ශ්‍රේෂ්ඨාධිකරණයේ ඉන්න එවුන්ටික ටික 7 වෙනිදා දක්වා කල් දැම්ම . යකෝ කල්දාපිය සතිදෙකක්, නෑ දැම්මා මාසයක් කල්.

 

[Pessimist]

how come china is on the top of pollution?

isn't it obvious ? they have the cheap labor and they are the leading figure in the manufacturing process. corporations in other countries have externalized their costs into china, india and such other countries where cheap labor is abundant.

 

[dath kimbula]

ඒ වගේම ශ්‍රේෂ්ඨාධිකරණයේ ඉන්න එවුන්ටික ටික 7 වෙනිදා දක්වා කල් දැම්ම . යකෝ කල්දාපිය සතිදෙකක්, නෑ දැම්මා මාසයක් කල්.

එහෙම කියන්න එපා දොරේ...පෙත්සම් 13ක් + අතරමැදි පෙත්සම් 6ක්+ නීතිපති තුමාගේ කරුණු දැක්වීම්.......
ඕක තීරණේ කරන්න කල් යනවා.....