වෙබ් 2.0 සහ “සුදුස්සාට සුදුසු තැන දීම” (Plagiarism in Web 2.0)

[x-pert]

Oops (lets say those rulese are older than 80 yrs)

bro, it was mentioned by our lecherer, im still searching for a written proof for that


hear the correct rules

Moral rights:

• apply to the creators of copyright works
• are separate from the entitlement of a copyright owner to payment
• generally last for 70 years after the author's death.

(dont know why it says generally)

sorce

This may be true

As an example: if I die today and after another 70 years, there might not be anyone who can talk for me - about my rights. you know

o in general terms this might be true But what your lecturer taught was wrong I guess

 

[sri_lion]

Its kind of funny.. those days when we were children our elders always used to say..

"Sudus saata sudusu thana denna"...

Never thought this will be one of the greatest controversy in the cutting edge technological world!

 

[booleanB]

මාගේ පෞද්ගලීක මතය වන්නේ, යම් කිසිවෙක්, යමක්, එක් ස්ථානයකින් ගෙන, තවත් ස්ථානයක පළ කරන්නේ නම්, එහි පූර්ණ ගෞරවය අදාල නිසි පුද්ගලයාට දිය යුතු බවයි. - සුදුස්සාට සුදුසු තැන දීමයි!

සීයට සීයක් ඇත්ත තමයි

 

[x-pert]

Its kind of funny.. those days when we were children our elders always used to say..

"Sudus saata sudusu thana denna"...

Never thought this will be one of the greatest controversy in the cutting edge technological world!

Yeah me neither. But with web 2.0 techniques it has now become!

 

[rash87]

Nice one

Well ok

if it's antonymous i think they should post the source!
or tell this is not mine!

Well it's basically like been honest & saying mchn I found i

Sorry.. I thought you were just kidding...

Well.. If you don't know me, then can you call me by my name? No dramas. Same thing applies.... - If the article is anonymous, then don't mention any name, but simply mention that it was written by someone else

(In Academic writing you can't use anonymously written documents.)

Ah tht's k I most dd tym do tht ne

But my thinking is that it's more like a norm than anything else. I don't think there is a written law regarding this & it's basically as not to become pora
BTW about academic stuff, why?
For an example u wanna prepare Thermo Dynamics paper & u found this good sum whr the author is not to be found. So u basically can not use it
In that case won't it be better to jst post it & let thm think u created it by ur own

 

[DJ.Parker]

Well ok


Well it's basically like been honest & saying mchn I found i


Ah tht's k I most dd tym do tht ne

But my thinking is that it's more like a norm than anything else. I don't think there is a written law regarding this & it's basically as not to become pora
BTW about academic stuff, why?
For an example u wanna prepare Thermo Dynamics paper & u found this good sum whr the author is not to be found. So u basically can not use it
In that case won't it be better to jst post it & let thm think u created it by ur own

Law is there if it's copyrighted.....but if it's not copyrighted then anyone can use it and true auther cannot do anything about it. ( like flikr pics which are not copyrighted which we use for our poems )

so it's basically an ethic to mention about the source. But practical probs arise as u've said

 

[DJ.Parker]

Oops (lets say those rulese are older than 80 yrs)

bro, it was mentioned by our lecherer, im still searching for a written proof for that


hear the correct rules

Moral rights:

• apply to the creators of copyright works
• are separate from the entitlement of a copyright owner to payment
• generally last for 70 years after the author's death.

(dont know why it says generally)

sorce

well our bs sir said if the author is mentioned in e book then copyright is valid only upto 70 years after authors death

so I too wanna knw what "genarally means"

 

[x-pert]

Well ok


Well it's basically like been honest & saying mchn I found i


Ah tht's k I most dd tym do tht ne

But my thinking is that it's more like a norm than anything else. I don't think there is a written law regarding this & it's basically as not to become pora
BTW about academic stuff, why?
For an example u wanna prepare Thermo Dynamics paper & u found this good sum whr the author is not to be found. So u basically can not use it
In that case won't it be better to jst post it & let thm think u created it by ur own

There are laws machang. See this for the Australian context (and which I'm bound to.) http://www.ipaustralia.gov.au/ip/index.shtml

Nope... You can't use if there is no author available. Well.. how do you classify it as a good paper if you don't know who wrote it? And how do you know that the content is valid and true?

If you know it's valid and true, then surely you must have read it somewhere else. Then you have to present that earlier source.

As an example lets say you get a paper about quantum physics saying that you can travel through time. (without an author) Can you believe it's true and a valid paper? If I found out a paper without an author, I consider it as a simple joke. (Like travelling through time)

But if the above paper had Albert Einstein's name on it, then you will think... wow.. This should be true then. Isn't it?

I cannot explain about academic writing like this machang. You have to get on to that field to realise the importance of the author.

When I do research, I have to check for the Authors biography to choose proper papers. Because you know why... I also can, even my younger brother also can write a paper. But will they be reliable as a paper written by a University professor?

 

[zed]

This may be true

As an example: if I die today and after another 70 years, there might not be anyone who can talk for me - about my rights. you know

o in general terms this might be true But what your lecturer taught was wrong I guess

hell yaaaah


lectchers need refernce for letter by letter (thats y im asking so meny jurnalls from u)

 

[x-pert]

Law is there if it's copyrighted.....but if it's not copyrighted then anyone can use it and true auther cannot do anything about it. ( like flikr pics which are not copyrighted which we use for our poems )

so it's basically an ethic to mention about the source. But practical probs arise as u've said

Yes, for some instances there are ethics involved.

But here in Australia, copyright is automated. Which means, if I write something while living in this country, it is copyrighted automatically. So no one can use it without my permission. Don't know about Sri Lanka though.

 

[x-pert]

well our bs sir said if the author is mentioned in e book then copyright is valid only upto 70 years after authors death

so I too wanna knw what "genarally means"

generally means normally machang...

It is a good practice to acknowledge the author even after 100 years of his death.
But generally (normally) people don't do it after 50 - 60 after the death.

This is mainly because you can't find many papers written before 1900! (more than 100 years old..) Even you find very few, you don't refer them nowadays. Because they are not valid to the present context.

But when the time moves on, these rules will change eventually. Maybe to 150 years or so.. who knows

 

[x-pert]

hell yaaaah


lectchers need refernce for letter by letter (thats y im asking so meny jurnalls from u)

Really appreciate it. That's how you have to write professional stuff That's why I'm willing to provide as much as help I can. I like to see everybody doing the same and becoming better professionals in the field.

 

[zed]

Really appreciate it. That's how you have to write professional stuff That's why I'm willing to provide as much as help I can. I like to see everybody doing the same and becoming better professionals in the field.

but hell hard to tranfer SL ordenery writing to, those accedemic writting (not relevent to the topic)

 

[x-pert]

but hell hard to tranfer SL ordenery writing to, those accedemic writting (not relevent to the topic)

Yeah yeah that's true.. But with some practice you'll feel alright

Don't just stick to ACM. Use IEEE xplore, Science Direct, Emerald Inights as well

 

[sri_lion]

People often forget that compared to other fields / avenues like engineering / medicine... Information Technology still a very much newer industry which came alive only in the past 3 decades or so! And it also borrowed many things from other industries... and the beauty of it is IT can be applied to all these much older industries.... hence, all the problems / issues of those industries actually become the problems of IT itself! FUNNY situation.. but true!!

Also, if you copy and publish someone's paper say which was written 100 years ago... and put it on this forum.. maybe.. just maybe.. you will get away with it... because there maybe no proof, but as long as your stuff is electronically archived... nowadays ofcourse you cannot make that excuse!

And with Web 2.0.. things only gonna get more complicated!

 

[nrjayasinghe]

මාගේ පෞද්ගලීක මතය වන්නේ, යම් කිසිවෙක්, යමක්, එක් ස්ථානයකින් ගෙන, තවත් ස්ථානයක පළ කරන්නේ නම්, එහි පූර්ණ ගෞරවය අදාල නිසි පුද්ගලයාට දිය යුතු බවයි. - සුදුස්සාට සුදුසු තැන දීමයි!

Eththa machan... mamath 100% k ekagai mekata....

 

[zed]

Yeah yeah that's true.. But with some practice you'll feel alright

Don't just stick to ACM. Use IEEE xplore, Science Direct, Emerald Inights as well

yaaa

i allmost forgot about them

thx, ill use them also

 

[manjula009]

mamath ekagai ...monawatada anunge ewa copy past karala miniha wenne ..nattam nati widiyata inna one

 

[Wal Bada]

So what happens if we put the original source in EK? We have a set of rules saying not to put links of SL web sites or else you'll be banned. If there is such a rule, administrator / owner is directly responsible for the intellectual theft. Or otherwise, the silly rules should be relaxed. I am a poet my self, and I see my poems being presented by some as theor own. Fortunately I have published them in multiple forums, and I have the dates of them as evidence.

 

[x-pert]

So what happens if we put the original source in EK? We have a set of rules saying not to put links of SL web sites or else you'll be banned. If there is such a rule, administrator / owner is directly responsible for the intellectual theft. Or otherwise, the silly rules should be relaxed. I am a poet my self, and I see my poems being presented by some as theor own. Fortunately I have published them in multiple forums, and I have the dates of them as evidence.

Namuth machang EK rules wala thiyenne oonima SL site ekak kiyala newei neda?

Like Defence, Dailynews, lankaenews wage eewa daanna puluwan ne

Mama meh sudu hunu gaanawa newei kaagewath. But eeka ehemai neda?

eeta amatharawa mama dakala naha wadagath yamak SL sites wala thiyenawa (I mean, methana daanna bari site ekaka)

Anyway lokuma horakama gana dannawada ube ada eeye wechchi?
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