‘Vegetarianism’

[sri_lion]

now let’s go to your elephant story …….

Dear brothers and sisters after failing in Hippo now sri_lion moved to Elephant after Elaphant i don't know what next ????
even though i try my level best to explain that one also Inshallah

lets see what are the functions and the aspects of both Tusk and Tooth

Tusks are used to dig for water, salt, and roots; to debark trees, to dig into baobab trees to get at the pulp inside; and to move trees and branches when clearing a path. In addition, they are used for marking trees to establish territory and occasionally as weapons.

This doesn't answer my question..

Teeth that are used to tear, scrape, milk and chew food. Some animals, particularly carnivores, also use teeth for hunting or defense.

Teeth are among the most distinctive (and long-lasting) features of mammal species. Paleontologists use teeth to identify fossil species and determine their relationships. The shape of the animal's teeth are related to its diet. For example, plant matter is hard to digest, so herbivores have many molars for chewing. Carnivores, on the other hand, need canines to kill and tear meat.

More BS, without answering the question...

We human has molars for chew the vegetables and cannies to tear the meat.

the digestive system of humans can digest both vegetarian and non-vegetarian food. If Almighty God wanted us to have only vegetables then why did He give us a digestive system that can digest both vegetarian as well as non-vegetarian food?

ohh you people just think.........

Some more BS, which is totally out of the scope of the question!

Now here's the issue again!!!

Did you.. or did you not.. said

If you observe the set of teeth of the carnivorous animals like the lion, tiger, or leopard, they all have a set of pointed teeth

Do you.. or do you not... accept that the over grown pointed tusks of Elephants are actually their teeth?

If so... my question

Elephant is a meat eater or not? I need a specific answer!! Dont beat around the bush!!

P.S: Just a reminder.... in post number 11 there's another question that has gone unanswered!

 

[madurax86]

y rnt u replyn? its k if u got the point then heh

 

[sri_lion]

the main issue here is whether hippopotamus do eats meat or not ……. It is my pleasure Al Hamdhulillah the you accepted that Hippos are eating meat. It means you lied all The EK members that hippo is a HERBIVOROUS ANIMAL. When a herbivorous animal consume meat it is not herbivorous any more so it is clear that you lied..

please check it out below video it portraits very clearly that hippo is eating meat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp-0BtK1zIk


There one more lie that you said hippos will not eat their own……. Check the underlined statements.

1996, J.P. Dudley published the paper “Record of carnivory, scavenging and predation for Hippopotamus amphibius in Hwange National Park, Zimbabwe,” they are the best scientific accounts that we have that hippos do sometimes eat meat. A pdf file announcing the Dudley’s work, states that not only was carnivory witnessed among the hippos, but even cannibalism,

Cannibalism may have spread anthrax in hippos

check the link for further details : http://www.vetscite.org/publish/items/002006/index.html

Aha! Not so fast Malli....

There's 2 types of Hippos in the wild.. one is the larger Hippo that you talking about... lets say he is eating meat.. but he is classified as a Herbivore and the digestive system you are talking about that you say Allah has given.... Guess what.... Hippos have a digestive system that of a Herbivore!! Now what? did Allah made a mistake there? Letting it have a digestive system of a Herbivore and and still let it eat meat?

oops!! looks like hippos does not care what Allah has designed for them!

And also there are hippos that are totally VEGETARIAN they are called "Pygmy Hippos"

Here's a skull of a Pygmy hippo!

So any thoughts?

 

[saharaz]

Ok thank you for informing me. But being a vegetarian would make me you a better person than killing for my own. Going to the butcher and buying some meat isnt killing but you're funding it so the process continues
The issue is not about killing some species it's the mark that you put upon urself and the victim because of the kill. First inorder to kill an animal you'll have to plan how to kill it because the animal tries to get away from fear it likes to live like us. trees dont run away or attack when we try to cut them down, true that they have life but the feelings that com into our minds when killing an animal doesnt come in to our minds when cutting down a tree...what you think is what that registers as a sin(this is mentioned in buddhism). Its true that we cant live without killing other species when we walk milllions of small insects may have died because we steped on them but its not a bad thing because we didnt know that and that we didnt step on it thinking of killing it. I think you may understand what im saying and if you do, you have to agree that vegetarianism is good because it doesnt make peoples minds so aggresive and so hateful.

Ok thank you for informing me. But being a vegetarian would make me you a better person than killing for my own. Going to the butcher and buying some meat isnt killing but you're funding it so the process continues

Brother thanx for you kind comments…. At first if you are a sick person or suffering from any allergic you better to eat non-vege then it will make you better since I’m not sick I can have both vege and non-vege which will make me strong and better. For your kind information slaughtering a cow or goat is not only a crime if you cut a tree that is also a murder / crime. Trees also feel the pain Today science tells us that even trees feel the pain and cry But the cry of the plant cannot be heard by the human being. Eating vegetable also a big crime vegetable shops are equal to a butchery shop. If you want to stop killing of lives then you have to stop eating rice or vegetables.

You can’t even drink water ......

In your drinking water you will find microorganisms these microorganism also have life if you are dinking boiled water means you are drinking a soup.

If you want to stop killing a animal without judiciously then you will have to DIE ……..

The issue is not about killing some species it's the mark that you put upon urself and the victim because of the kill. First inorder to kill an animal you'll have to plan how to kill it because the animal tries to get away from fear it likes to live like us.

Brother I do understand you feelings towards animal which is going to die but it is the natures law. Don’t worry about how to kill a animal Islam is teaching you how to slaughter an cattle in proper way that is the best way to slaughter an animal.

trees dont run away or attack when we try to cut them down, true that they have life but the feelings that com into our minds when killing an animal doesnt come in to our minds when cutting down a tree...

Today science tells us that even trees feel the pain and cry But the cry of the plant cannot be heard by the human being. This is due to the inability of the human ear to hear sounds that are not in the audible range i.e. 20 Hertz to 20,000 Hertz. Anything below and above this range cannot be heard by a human being. A dog can hear up to 40,000 Hertz. Thus there are silent dog whistles that have a frequency of more than 20,000 Hertz and less than 40,000 Hertz. These whistles are only heard by dogs and not by human beings. The dog recognizes the masters whistle and comes to the master. There was research done by a farmer in U.S.A. who invented an instrument which converted the cry of the plant so that it could be heard by human beings. He was able to realize immediately when the plant itself cried for water. Latest researches show that the plants can even feel happy and sad. It can also cry.

what you think is what that registers as a sin(this is mentioned in buddhism). Its true that we cant live without killing other species when we walk milllions of small insects may have died because we steped on them but its not a bad thing because we didnt know that and that we didnt step on it thinking of killing it.

Messenger of God, Muhammad PBUH said :
“All actions are judged by motives, and each person will be rewarded according to their intention.” (Saheeh Al-Bukhari, Saheeh Muslim)

 

[madurax86]

Ok thank you for informing me. But being a vegetarian would make me you a better person than killing for my own. Going to the butcher and buying some meat isnt killing but you're funding it so the process continues

Brother thanx for you kind comments…. At first if you are a sick person or suffering from any allergic you better to eat non-vege then it will make you better since I’m not sick I can have both vege and non-vege which will make me strong and better. For your kind information slaughtering a cow or goat is not only a crime if you cut a tree that is also a murder / crime. Trees also feel the pain Today science tells us that even trees feel the pain and cry But the cry of the plant cannot be heard by the human being. Eating vegetable also a big crime vegetable shops are equal to a butchery shop. If you want to stop killing of lives then you have to stop eating rice or vegetables.

You can’t even drink water ......

In your drinking water you will find microorganisms these microorganism also have life if you are dinking boiled water means you are drinking a soup.

If you want to stop killing a animal without judiciously then you will have to DIE ……..

The issue is not about killing some species it's the mark that you put upon urself and the victim because of the kill. First inorder to kill an animal you'll have to plan how to kill it because the animal tries to get away from fear it likes to live like us.

Brother I do understand you feelings towards animal which is going to die but it is the natures law. Don’t worry about how to kill a animal Islam is teaching you how to slaughter an cattle in proper way that is the best way to slaughter an animal.

trees dont run away or attack when we try to cut them down, true that they have life but the feelings that com into our minds when killing an animal doesnt come in to our minds when cutting down a tree...

Today science tells us that even trees feel the pain and cry But the cry of the plant cannot be heard by the human being. This is due to the inability of the human ear to hear sounds that are not in the audible range i.e. 20 Hertz to 20,000 Hertz. Anything below and above this range cannot be heard by a human being. A dog can hear up to 40,000 Hertz. Thus there are silent dog whistles that have a frequency of more than 20,000 Hertz and less than 40,000 Hertz. These whistles are only heard by dogs and not by human beings. The dog recognizes the masters whistle and comes to the master. There was research done by a farmer in U.S.A. who invented an instrument which converted the cry of the plant so that it could be heard by human beings. He was able to realize immediately when the plant itself cried for water. Latest researches show that the plants can even feel happy and sad. It can also cry.

what you think is what that registers as a sin(this is mentioned in buddhism). Its true that we cant live without killing other species when we walk milllions of small insects may have died because we steped on them but its not a bad thing because we didnt know that and that we didnt step on it thinking of killing it.

HELL dude as long as we dont know they cry or beg o what ever we dont know what we are doing when you walk you dont hear the crys of the ants who are being step over...so you just continue to walk...and in ur religion it says dat no matter they cry beg or do ny kinda shit just kill 'em.

hey think of this situation you're feeling very hungry and you're trapped in side a room with your mother ...weeks go by n u r still hungry n u say cannibalism is acceptable u'd eat ur mother? freakin hell man ur wound up from da bottom up

Messenger of God, Muhammad PBUH said :
“All actions are judged by motives, and each person will be rewarded according to their intention.” (Saheeh Al-Bukhari, Saheeh Muslim)

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[nadeeshaF]

you are totally lost or what ?????

you said that Humans are the most over populated species in this world it's not the truth

insects are the over populated specie in this world not the human as you say.....​

before you people refute my satatements you should read what i was talking about if you don't understand my statement you can ask me to post more clearly this a place for a open discussion no offence .....

when it comes to over population of cattle all i said was atonce every one on the face of the earth stop eating cattle what will be the fate obviously there will be a massive change on the cattle population beyond our imaginations that's what i'm talking about the next thing is if you accuse muslims or non-vegiterians as a murderer of lives of spiecies of this world i bet you that ALL OF YOU ARE SO CALLED VEGITERIANS ARE MURDERERS OF SPIECIES TOO ........ as we know plants has a life you are eating vegitable it has life you are eating them and asking non-vegiterians to stop killing lives. do you know plants can also feel the pain.

THE RELIGIOUSE PHILLOSOPHY OF VEGITARIANISM IS A ANCIENT SUPERSTITIOUS BELIFE BY IGNORANT PEOPLE


WITHOUT KILLING A LIFE OF SPEICIES ON THIS EARTH NO ONE CAN LIVE INCLUDING YOU ​

Pathetic, is what you are.

You are comparing insects to humans? How tiny are insects? For what they lack in size, it's natural that they make up in numbers.

Compare the growth in the human population to the growth in population of any other land mammal. Are you so dense as to defy extinction? While the human population has nearly doubled over the last 100 years, it has been done so at the expense of other species, driving many to the brink of extinction. Do you dare say it isn't so? Do you dare mobot? It's because of selfish greedy people like you that go around thinking everything green and natural belongs them, that other animals are denied their habitat and endangered today.

Regarding beef cattle, what do you think stupid? If people stop eating cattle, farmed cattle numbers will die out at some point. You do know that in factory farms cows are kept separated from bulls? So where there is no room left for breeding, there won't be a next generation. Period. Get that into your pea sized brain.

Vegetarianims from a ancient superstitions? ROFL ROFL ROFL! I laugh at you HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Are you serious? I mean you of all people that believe in the teachings of a 5th century desert bandit, you that believer that saturn sits inside your nostril during the night, you that utter nonsensical rubbish from the quran after sex, you that wash your hands 7 times after touching a dog. 'Scuse me, whose the gullible iditiot now?

 

[saharaz]

HELL dude as long as we dont know they cry or beg o what ever we dont know what we are doing when you walk you dont hear the crys of the ants who are being step over...so you just continue to walk...and in ur religion it says dat no matter they cry beg or do ny kinda shit just kill 'em.

hey think of this situation you're feeling very hungry and you're trapped in side a room with your mother ...weeks go by n u r still hungry n u say cannibalism is acceptable u'd eat ur mother? freakin hell man ur wound up from da bottom up


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HELL dude as long as we dont know they cry or beg o what ever we dont know what we are doing when you walk you dont hear the crys of the ants who are being step over...so you just continue to walk...and in ur religion it says dat no matter they cry beg or do ny kinda shit just kill 'em.

Prophet Muhammed PBUH also taught compassion towards animals. According to overall teachings of Islam, causing unavoidable pain and suffering to the defenseless and innocent creatures of God is not justifiable under any circumstances. Islam wants prevent not only physical cruelty also mental cruelty.

We were on a journey with the Apostle of God(s), and he left us for a while. During his absence, we saw a bird called hummara with its two young and took the young ones. The mother bird was circling above us in the air, beating its wings in grief, when the Prophet came back and said: 'who has hurt the FEELINGS of this bird by taking its young? Return them to her'. (Narrated by Abdul Rahman bin Abdullah bin Mas'ud. Muslim. Also Awn (Ref. No. 32) Hadith No. 2658. Also "Guillaume' (Ref. No. 57); p. 106).

It is reported by the same authority that: "a man once robbed some eggs from the nest of a bird. The Prophet(s) had them restored to the nest." (id).

The Islamic concern about cruelty to animals is so great that it has declared the infliction of any unnecessary and avoidable pain 'even to a sparrow or any creature smaller than that' as a sin for which the culprit would be answerable to God on the Day of Judgement.

The Prophet(s) told his companions of a woman who would be sent to Hell for having locked up a cat; not feeding it, nor even releasing it so that it could feed herself." (Narrated by Abdullah bin 'Omar. Bukhari, 4:337;
Mishkat Al-Masabih concluded from "Bukhari" and "Muslim" to the effect that: 'A good deed done to a beast is as good as doing good to a human being; while an act of cruelty to a beast is as bad as an act of cruelty to human beings' and that: 'Kindness to animals was promised by rewards in Life Hereafter.' (Mishkat al-Masabih; Book 6; Chapter 7, 8:178.)
The Prophet(s) told his companions of a serf who was blessed by Allah for saving the life of a dog by giving it water to drink and quenching its thirst. (Narrated by Abu Huraira. Muslim, Vol. 4, Hadith No. 2244. Also Bukhari, 3:322. Also Awn (Ref. No. 32); Hadith No. 2533, and others).

For more information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animals_in_islam


hey think of this situation you're feeling very hungry and you're trapped in side a room with your mother ...weeks go by n u r still hungry n u say cannibalism is acceptable u'd eat ur mother? freakin hell man ur wound up from da bottom up

Muslims Respect their Mother’s More than any Community of the World​

In the family unit, Islam honours mothers very highly.


Narrated Abu Huraira: A man came to Allah's Messenger and said, "O Allah's Messenger! Who is more entitled to be treated with the best companionship by me?" The Prophet said, "Your mother." The man said. "Who is next?" The Prophet said, "Your mother." The man further said, "Who is next?" The Prophet said, "Your mother." The man asked for the fourth time, "Who is next?"The Prophet said, "Your father." [Sahih Bukhari 8.73.2] [3]

A man once consulted the Prophet Muhammad about taking part in a military campaign. The Prophet asked the man if his mother was still living. When told that she was alive, the Prophet said: “(Then) stay with her, for Paradise is at her feet.” (Al-Tirmidhi) On another occasion, the Prophet said: “God has forbidden for you to be undutiful to your mothers.” (Sahih Al-Bukhari)

 

[Wal Bada]

Vegetarinsm is a choice. If you like to practice it practice it. Don't try to look down on others because of it. Same for the non-vegetarinsm as well. Eat what you can buy. I don't care whether it is beef or chicken or mushrooms if it could be bought for the money I have. And I don't wake up in the morning thinking "I should eat beef" or "I should refrain from beef" blah . . Blah . . Don't get attached to what you eat. Eat to live, but don't live to eat.

 

[saharaz]

Vegetarinsm is a choice. If you like to practice it practice it. Don't try to look down on others because of it. Same for the non-vegetarinsm as well. Eat what you can buy. I don't care whether it is beef or chicken or mushrooms if it could be bought for the money I have. And I don't wake up in the morning thinking "I should eat beef" or "I should refrain from beef" blah . . Blah . . Don't get attached to what you eat. Eat to live, but don't live to eat.

OHH MY GOD ...... WAS IT YOU WALBADOOO......

any way i do agree that VEGETARIANSM is a choice. as you said if you like to practice then practice it DON'T TRY TO LOOK DOWN ON NON-VEGETARIANS

If you want to stop killing lives without judiciously then you will have to DIE ……..
If some one here to say that stop killing cows, goats and chicken for flesh / food / meat, first let him not drink water and let him not eat vegetable.
becoz both in vegitable and water there are lives

 

[sri_lion]

OHH MY GOD ...... WAS IT YOU WALBADOOO......

any way i do agree that VEGETARIANSM is a choice. as you said if you like to practice then practice it DON'T TRY TO LOOK DOWN ON NON-VEGETARIANS

If you want to stop killing lives without judiciously then you will have to DIE ……..
If some one here to say that stop killing cows, goats and chicken for flesh / food / meat, first let him not drink water and let him not eat vegetable.
becoz both in vegitable and water there are lives

Totally out of sorts!!

Who told you plants and Animals are the same?

Just yesterday this issue was discussed in this thread!

http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=111411

You can read from page number 52 if you like!

 

[saharaz]

Pathetic, is what you are.

You are comparing insects to humans? How tiny are insects? For what they lack in size, it's natural that they make up in numbers.

Compare the growth in the human population to the growth in population of any other land mammal. Are you so dense as to defy extinction? While the human population has nearly doubled over the last 100 years, it has been done so at the expense of other species, driving many to the brink of extinction. Do you dare say it isn't so? Do you dare mobot? It's because of selfish greedy people like you that go around thinking everything green and natural belongs them, that other animals are denied their habitat and endangered today.

Regarding beef cattle, what do you think stupid? If people stop eating cattle, farmed cattle numbers will die out at some point. You do know that in factory farms cows are kept separated from bulls? So where there is no room left for breeding, there won't be a next generation. Period. Get that into your pea sized brain.

Vegetarianims from a ancient superstitions? ROFL ROFL ROFL! I laugh at you HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Are you serious? I mean you of all people that believe in the teachings of a 5th century desert bandit, you that believer that saturn sits inside your nostril during the night, you that utter nonsensical rubbish from the quran after sex, you that wash your hands 7 times after touching a dog. 'Scuse me, whose the gullible iditiot now?

Pathetic, is what you are.

You are comparing insects to humans? How tiny are insects? For what they lack in size, it's natural that they make up in numbers.

I like to remind you what you said on your previous statement, My reply was according to your previous statement on that you said that

“You are talking about cattle over population, what about human over population eh? Humans are the most over populated species in this world, and with certain types breeding like rabbits in the wild, I'm afraid we'll have to seek land elsewhere in time to come.”

According to your above statement you are talking about species not about the mammals. I hope you well aware of the word specie. It is the scientific truth that insects are the highest populated specie on this earth. We all can see your childish game as any other Anti-Islamist in this site at the point of cornered quickly switch or divert the subject. You and your friends have been playing this game for a long time.

If you want example we can take from your specie to mammal story……….
If you want example of one of Anti-Islamist in this site is from hippo to pigmy hippo and elephant story ………..
If you need more, many you can check them in all my threads

Dirty games …….. I’m willing to answer for your ignorance, on the other hand I’m reluctant to answer you stupidity and the arrogance…
It doesn’t mean that I will not answer you stupidity and the arrogance…


Compare the growth in the human population to the growth in population of any other land mammal. Are you so dense as to defy extinction? While the human population has nearly doubled over the last 100 years, it has been done so at the expense of other species, driving many to the brink of extinction. Do you dare say it isn't so? Do you dare mobot? It's because of selfish greedy people like you that go around thinking everything green and natural belongs them, that other animals are denied their habitat and endangered today.

I don’t understand why are you keep on complaining me about growth of population ?????? I’m not yet married or don’t have illicit children for my own but you are complaining me….

Islam is the last religion of all previous heavenly messages, it urges people—all people—to protect the environment and calls them not to pollute or spoil it. For example, Islam prohibits urinating or defecating or throwing garbage, carcasses, industrial wastes, or suchlike things in water, for doing so causes much harm to man, animals, and the environment.

The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) founded a very important legal rule when he said, “No harm shall be inflicted or reciprocated in Islam.” (Reported by Ahmad)

(And the cattle hath He created, whence ye have warm clothing and uses, and whereof ye eat)and end with the verse(And it is He Who hath constrained the sea to be of service that ye eat fresh meat from thence, and bring forth from thence, ornaments which ye wear. And thou seest the ships ploughing it that ye (mankind) may seek of His bounty, and that happily ye may give thanks)(An-Nahl 16: 5-14),

one will realize that Allah has subjected the universe to man. Thus, man must keep the universe as pure and magnificent as Allah has created it. If you fail to keep according to Divine Law don’t put the blame on GOD ALMIGHTY..

GOD ALMIGHTY Says in THE GLORIOUSE AL QUARN.

“Whatever misfortune happens to you, is because of the things your hands have wrought, and for many He grants forgiveness.” (Qur’an, 42:31)
“Mischief has appeared on the land and sea because of (the meed) that the hands of people have earned, that (God) may give them a taste of some of their deeds: in order that they may turn back (from Evil).” (Qur’an, 30:41)

Regarding beef cattle, what do you think stupid? If people stop eating cattle, farmed cattle numbers will die out at some point. You do know that in factory farms cows are kept separated from bulls? So where there is no room left for breeding, there won't be a next generation. Period. Get that into your pea sized brain.


Are you lost or what ????? what are you talking about can you tell me what is the link between your above statement and my previous statement ……

Vegetarianims from a ancient superstitions? ROFL ROFL ROFL! I laugh at you HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Are you serious?

THE RELIGIOUSE PHILLOSOPHY OF VEGITARIANISM IS A ANCIENT SUPERSTITIOUS BELIFE BY IGNORANT PEOPLE
WITHOUT KILLING A LIFE OF SPEICIES ON THIS EARTH NO ONE CAN LIVE INCLUDING YOU

If you want to stop killing a lives without judiciously then you will have to DIE …….. You can’t even drink water ......

In your drinking water you will find microorganisms these microorganism also have life if you are dinking boiled water means you are drinking a soup.

I mean you of all people that believe in the teachings of a, you that believer that saturn sits inside your nostril during the night, you that utter nonsensical rubbish from the quran after sex, you that wash your hands 7 times after touching a dog. 'Scuse me, whose the gullible iditiot now?

My dear sister we all know that you are fond of praising our BELOVED PROPHET MUHAMMAD Peace Be Upon Him. Lets leave this matter on all the EK members to find put the truth about this HOLY PERSON. by world known PEOPLE.

Annie Besant- “It is impossible for anyone who studies the life and character of the great Prophet of Arabia, who knows how he taught and how he lived, to feel anything but reverence for that mighty Prophet, one of the great messengers of the Supreme. And although in what I put to you I shall say many things which may be familiar to many, yet I myself feel whenever I re-read them, a new way of admiration, a new sense of reverence for that mighty Arabian teacher.”

Mohandas KaramchandGandhi- “I became more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the prophet, the scrupulous regard for his pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and in his own mission. These, and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every trouble.”

Edward Gibbon- “The greatest success of Mohammad’s life was effected by sheer moral force without the stroke of a sword.”

Alphonse de Lamartine- “Philosopher, orator, apostle, legislator, warrior, conqueror of ideas, restorer of rational dogmas, of a cult without images; the founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire, that is Muhammad. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he?”

William Montgomery Watt- “His readiness to undergo persecutions for his beliefs, the high moral character of the men who believed in him and looked up to him as leader, and the greatness of his ultimate achievement - all argue his fundamental integrity. To suppose Muhammad an impostor raises more problems than it solves. Moreover, none of the great figures of history is so poorly appreciated in the West as Muhammad.”

Michael H. Hart - “My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world’s most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular level.”

Washington Irving- “He was sober and abstemious in his diet, and a rigorous observer of fasts. He indulged in no magnificence of apparel, the ostentation of a petty mind; neither was his simplicity in dress affected, but the result of a real disregard to distinction from so trivial a source … In his private dealings he was just. He treated friends and strangers, the rich and poor, the powerful and the weak, with equity, and was beloved by the common people for the affability with which he received them, and listened to their complaints … His military triumphs awakened no pride nor vain glory, as they would have done had they been effected for selfish purposes. In the time of his greatest power he maintained the same simplicity of manners and appearance as in the days of his adversity. So far from affecting regal state, he was displeased if, on entering a room, any unusual testimonial of respect were shown to him.”

nadeeshaF- “5th century desert bandit.”

DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME TRY TO KNOW HIM TODAY click on the link ​

http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=106859​

 

[blood_brotha]

humans are omnivours(sarwa bakshaka) and im staying as one..

 

[Deelaka]

gud post bro

 

[nadeeshaF]

Pathetic, is what you are.

You are comparing insects to humans? How tiny are insects? For what they lack in size, it's natural that they make up in numbers.

I like to remind you what you said on your previous statement, My reply was according to your previous statement on that you said that

“You are talking about cattle over population, what about human over population eh? Humans are the most over populated species in this world, and with certain types breeding like rabbits in the wild, I'm afraid we'll have to seek land elsewhere in time to come.”

According to your above statement you are talking about species not about the mammals. I hope you well aware of the word specie. It is the scientific truth that insects are the highest populated specie on this earth. We all can see your childish game as any other Anti-Islamist in this site at the point of cornered quickly switch or divert the subject. You and your friends have been playing this game for a long time.

If you want example we can take from your specie to mammal story……….
If you want example of one of Anti-Islamist in this site is from hippo to pigmy hippo and elephant story ………..
If you need more, many you can check them in all my threads

Dirty games …….. I’m willing to answer for your ignorance, on the other hand I’m reluctant to answer you stupidity and the arrogance…
It doesn’t mean that I will not answer you stupidity and the arrogance…


Compare the growth in the human population to the growth in population of any other land mammal. Are you so dense as to defy extinction? While the human population has nearly doubled over the last 100 years, it has been done so at the expense of other species, driving many to the brink of extinction. Do you dare say it isn't so? Do you dare mobot? It's because of selfish greedy people like you that go around thinking everything green and natural belongs them, that other animals are denied their habitat and endangered today.

I don’t understand why are you keep on complaining me about growth of population ?????? I’m not yet married or don’t have illicit children for my own but you are complaining me….

Islam is the last religion of all previous heavenly messages, it urges people—all people—to protect the environment and calls them not to pollute or spoil it. For example, Islam prohibits urinating or defecating or throwing garbage, carcasses, industrial wastes, or suchlike things in water, for doing so causes much harm to man, animals, and the environment.

The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) founded a very important legal rule when he said, “No harm shall be inflicted or reciprocated in Islam.” (Reported by Ahmad)

(And the cattle hath He created, whence ye have warm clothing and uses, and whereof ye eat)and end with the verse(And it is He Who hath constrained the sea to be of service that ye eat fresh meat from thence, and bring forth from thence, ornaments which ye wear. And thou seest the ships ploughing it that ye (mankind) may seek of His bounty, and that happily ye may give thanks)(An-Nahl 16: 5-14),

one will realize that Allah has subjected the universe to man. Thus, man must keep the universe as pure and magnificent as Allah has created it. If you fail to keep according to Divine Law don’t put the blame on GOD ALMIGHTY..

GOD ALMIGHTY Says in THE GLORIOUSE AL QUARN.

“Whatever misfortune happens to you, is because of the things your hands have wrought, and for many He grants forgiveness.” (Qur’an, 42:31)
“Mischief has appeared on the land and sea because of (the meed) that the hands of people have earned, that (God) may give them a taste of some of their deeds: in order that they may turn back (from Evil).” (Qur’an, 30:41)

Regarding beef cattle, what do you think stupid? If people stop eating cattle, farmed cattle numbers will die out at some point. You do know that in factory farms cows are kept separated from bulls? So where there is no room left for breeding, there won't be a next generation. Period. Get that into your pea sized brain.


Are you lost or what ????? what are you talking about can you tell me what is the link between your above statement and my previous statement ……

Vegetarianims from a ancient superstitions? ROFL ROFL ROFL! I laugh at you HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Are you serious?

THE RELIGIOUSE PHILLOSOPHY OF VEGITARIANISM IS A ANCIENT SUPERSTITIOUS BELIFE BY IGNORANT PEOPLE
WITHOUT KILLING A LIFE OF SPEICIES ON THIS EARTH NO ONE CAN LIVE INCLUDING YOU

If you want to stop killing a lives without judiciously then you will have to DIE …….. You can’t even drink water ......

In your drinking water you will find microorganisms these microorganism also have life if you are dinking boiled water means you are drinking a soup.

I mean you of all people that believe in the teachings of a, you that believer that saturn sits inside your nostril during the night, you that utter nonsensical rubbish from the quran after sex, you that wash your hands 7 times after touching a dog. 'Scuse me, whose the gullible iditiot now?

My dear sister we all know that you are fond of praising our BELOVED PROPHET MUHAMMAD Peace Be Upon Him. Lets leave this matter on all the EK members to find put the truth about this HOLY PERSON. by world known PEOPLE.

Annie Besant- “It is impossible for anyone who studies the life and character of the great Prophet of Arabia, who knows how he taught and how he lived, to feel anything but reverence for that mighty Prophet, one of the great messengers of the Supreme. And although in what I put to you I shall say many things which may be familiar to many, yet I myself feel whenever I re-read them, a new way of admiration, a new sense of reverence for that mighty Arabian teacher.”

Mohandas KaramchandGandhi- “I became more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the prophet, the scrupulous regard for his pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and in his own mission. These, and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every trouble.”

Edward Gibbon- “The greatest success of Mohammad’s life was effected by sheer moral force without the stroke of a sword.”

Alphonse de Lamartine- “Philosopher, orator, apostle, legislator, warrior, conqueror of ideas, restorer of rational dogmas, of a cult without images; the founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire, that is Muhammad. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he?”

William Montgomery Watt- “His readiness to undergo persecutions for his beliefs, the high moral character of the men who believed in him and looked up to him as leader, and the greatness of his ultimate achievement - all argue his fundamental integrity. To suppose Muhammad an impostor raises more problems than it solves. Moreover, none of the great figures of history is so poorly appreciated in the West as Muhammad.”

Michael H. Hart - “My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world’s most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular level.”

Washington Irving- “He was sober and abstemious in his diet, and a rigorous observer of fasts. He indulged in no magnificence of apparel, the ostentation of a petty mind; neither was his simplicity in dress affected, but the result of a real disregard to distinction from so trivial a source … In his private dealings he was just. He treated friends and strangers, the rich and poor, the powerful and the weak, with equity, and was beloved by the common people for the affability with which he received them, and listened to their complaints … His military triumphs awakened no pride nor vain glory, as they would have done had they been effected for selfish purposes. In the time of his greatest power he maintained the same simplicity of manners and appearance as in the days of his adversity. So far from affecting regal state, he was displeased if, on entering a room, any unusual testimonial of respect were shown to him.”

nadeeshaF- “5th century desert bandit.”

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I don't have time for your bullshit today, but I'll get back to you regarding these soon.

 

[nadeeshaF]

Saharaz - I would like to reiterate something, that is many people don't like Islam;will never like Islam. Just take a look at these forums, there are plenty of people here itself who do not like Islam.

It is our right to like or dislike something, without being questioned about it. No amount of copy pasting junk from Islamic sites here is going to change that. Please get that into your head.

I have a right to object whatever is posted here, you can call me whatever the hell you want, but that won't stop me from objecting.

I know enough about mohammed and his antics, and have an informed opinion about him.

The fact is he was a thief, a murderer. No matter what the context of his acts were, I won't believe that a prophet of god would kill or loot even if their life depended on it.

That doesn't sit well with me. I mean we are talking about a prophet of God!!! A prophet of god shouldn't be vengeful, he should not react with evil when confronted by evil. As a divine messenger he should have had the skills to achieve his goals without bloodshed, whatsoever. Remember neither Jesus or Buddha killed.

But he didn't. He resorted to the same low level of other criminals and tried to admonish violence and opposition with equal violence. Remember two evils never make a good!

While you have a right to post Islamic propaganda here, we ALSO have the right to object and question. If you don't like you posts being questioned and criticised, don't post them. If you can't stand the heat gett out of the kitche, it's as simle as that. Remember that.

 

[saharaz]

I don't have time for your bullshit today, but I'll get back to you regarding these soon.

you are welcome

 

[chanakam2000]

mama barbarian

 

[funkoluwa]

Saharaz - I would like to reiterate something, that is many people don't like Islam;will never like Islam. Just take a look at these forums, there are plenty of people here itself who do not like Islam.

It is our right to like or dislike something, without being questioned about it. No amount of copy pasting junk from Islamic sites here is going to change that. Please get that into your head.

I have a right to object whatever is posted here, you can call me whatever the hell you want, but that won't stop me from objecting.[/B]

I know enough about mohammed and his antics, and have an informed opinion about him.

The fact is he was a thief, a murderer. No matter what the context of his acts were, I won't believe that a prophet of god would kill or loot even if their life depended on it.

That doesn't sit well with me. I mean we are talking about a prophet of God!!! A prophet of god shouldn't be vengeful, he should not react with evil when confronted by evil. As a divine messenger he should have had the skills to achieve his goals without bloodshed, whatsoever. Remember neither Jesus or Buddha killed.

But he didn't. He resorted to the same low level of other criminals and tried to admonish violence and opposition with equal violence. Remember two evils never make a good!

While you have a right to post Islamic propaganda here, we ALSO have the right to object and question. If you don't like you posts being questioned and criticised, don't post them. If you can't stand the heat gett out of the kitche, it's as simle as that. Remember that.

whatever posted will be objected
den no point of arguing cant make u agree

well if u think da prophet is what u said
am sorry i had to say dis Buddha is a p he is scared of his life he couldnt face da nature of life his excuses are mentioned above. u cant live like dat in dis real world we had to fight over LTTE coz we havnt got other choices if we show maithree on those basted's deyll kick da shit out of u

 

[4keven4]

machan what you said is not good ban... animals aint livin in this world for us to eat. they have the right to live, they have the right to breath. besides you people doesnt eat pork right? why's that.? i mean pig is also an animal. if it weren't for you to be eaten, then what's it with pig?

 

[sri_lion]

whatever posted will be objected
den no point of arguing cant make u agree

well if u think da prophet is what u said
am sorry i had to say dis Buddha is a p he is scared of his life he couldnt face da nature of life his excuses are mentioned above. u cant live like dat in dis real world we had to fight over LTTE coz we havnt got other choices if we show maithree on those basted's deyll kick da shit out of u

The more I see these kind of posts the more I'm amazed about the wisdom of Lord Buddha!

Lord Buddha says...

He who without resentment endures abuse, beating and punishment; whose power, real might, is patience -- him do I call a holy man.

which you are not neither does the prophet.. and sorry to say that this further proves the claim of non-Islamic people that Islam is an offensive religion!!