Campus Ivarai...

WICKILEAKS

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    Lion always in his den
    private uni දැම්මට කිසි ප්‍රස්නයක් නැහැ හැබැයි මේ දේවල් සම්පුර්ණ කරන්න ඕනි
    1. සිලබස් එකයි exams ඔක්කොම private & government එකම වෙන්න ඕනි ඒවා එකම ආයතනයකින් පවත්වන්න ඕනි
     

    Lokka Ayya

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    private uni දැම්මට කිසි ප්‍රස්නයක් නැහැ හැබැයි මේ දේවල් සම්පුර්ණ කරන්න ඕනි
    1. සිලබස් එකයි exams ඔක්කොම private & government එකම වෙන්න ඕනි ඒවා එකම ආයතනයකින් පවත්වන්න ඕනි

    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: pissuda bann..gov eke syllabus eka melo rahak nah ne.. eeta hapan samahra pvt unis wena ratawal wala sister unis dannne..ewala exam karanne ey ratey syllabus eka ne ..

    umbala hari dwal walata neme uth goshanya karanne..padayak ariyath uth goshana..campus yana kollan ta dan rate minihek wath garu karanne nathi thathawayak thama dan uda wela thiyenne
     

    rukey184

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    හරි මගුලක්නෙ යකෝ , උසස් පෙළ ඉහලින්ම සමත්වෙන උන් ටික විතරද කැම්පස් යන්න ඕන , යන්න බැරිවෙන උන් අහවල් එකද කරන්නේ එතකොට? සල්ලි වැඩියෙන්ම තියෙන එකා රට ගිහින් උපාධි අරන් එනවා , එතකොට තොපි කියනවද ඒ උපාධි කැන්සල් කරන්නයි කියල, සාමාන්‍ය උන්ටත් මෙහෙන් කීයක් හරි වියදම් කරල ඉගෙන ගත්තොත් හෙනේට හිටීද? උන් පොල් කඩලා උපාධි ගන්නෑනෙ , ඉගෙන ගෙන තමයි ඒ උපාධිය ලබාගන්නේ, උඹලත් අර ගොන් ජෙප්පන්ගේ හාල් කිරන අංතරේ බයියලට ගොටු අල්ල අල්ල ඉදපල්ල , අන්තිමට තොපි ඉගෙන ගෙනත් නෑ , ඉගෙන ගන්න බලාගෙන ඉන්න උන්ටත් නෑ.

    I.T උපාධි දෙන SLITT, NIBM ඒවත් වහල දාන්න කියපල්ල , මොකද ඉස්සරහට උසස් පෙළට IT කරලා කැම්පස් යන්න පුලුවන්නේ.එතකොට උන් විතරයි කැම්පස් යන්න ඕන අනිත් උන්ට හාල්
    :yes::yes: :yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes: nicely said.they saying they struggling for survival of the free education but the real truth is they are selfish and ...........
     

    rukey184

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    i've been reading some posts from this thread and my two cents :P

    private universities should not be denounced as a failure till they prove themselves, let them be started and if they become a failure action can be taken then.

    govt. lecturers in my opinion doesn't get the salary they deserve, they should be commended that they continue to work for such low salaries, what needs to be done is they should get better facilities and salaries at govt unis. that would greatly increase the quality of education in govt unis.

    next that doesn't mean only govt unis should exist in our country. education should be a diverse field with a mixture of different govt and private institutes offering students a choice. importantly a choice to decide their future.

    finally i want to say something about doctors. there was a time long ago when we produced quality healthcare professionals in our govt uni system. but is it the same today. does today's graduates get a proper international standard education in medicine? i think that is not the case, and sadly foreign graduates tend to have a better training to deal with patients (i'm not saying about those ppl who come back with fake degrees, those quacks . .but the real ones who come back, pass one of the most difficult exam in the world to get their license to practice) and about private graduates in our country, lets give them a chance when they graduate . . they hopefully will provide a good healthcare if they get the proper training.



    uba government or private da school giye ban ? kohe hiyath ube kaddanam ela machan :):):):)
     

    Miami-Vice

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    Private universities are welcome as long as necessary standards are maintained.
    It will save a lot of money paid by SL students to foreign universities (plus board and lodging in those countries) and will be a good income if we could compete with foreign universities and win foreign students :)
     

    RLR

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    we go your way,

    no rich kids get to be doctors, neither does the poor kids - NO OUTCOME

    we go 'Private uni' way,

    rich kids get to be doctors, poor kids..may continue to be poor. - BETTER THAN NOTHING

    besides why puncture the dreams of rich kids on the account of poor kids, that's their problem isn't it..that's just selfish..lets not be selfish

    It seems like you have your own definition for rich kids. How come no rich kids get to be doctors? Do you think that there are no rich kids in the government universities? But FYI, there are 'rich kids' who have not only the money, but the brains as well.

    Maybe in your 'Private Uni Way', you want the kids who only has money but no brains to be doctors as well eh?

    "the dreams of rich kids on the account of poor kids"??? Where did that come from? This is the first time I heard such a thing in my life. LOL. Looks like you have messed it all up.

    BTW, I have no strong resistance against private universities. All I want is,

    1. Provide more facilities and better salaries for the lecturers of government universities.

    2. No gov lecturers can be full time lecturers at private universities.

    3. And most importantly, only the students who cannot get into gov universities will be allowed to register in private universities.

    4. The cream of the students will always have to study at gov universities.

    Then you can start as much private universities as you want. That won't make a tiny impact on the gov universities. But otherwise that would be the end of free education.


    lankawe campus wala inne gon meee harak

    Ehenan ithin campus yanna beri una ewun gena kiyanna deyak nene ban. Nikan moda katha kiyanna epa.

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    coolioWiZ

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    uba government or private da school giye ban ? kohe hiyath ube kaddanam ela machan :):):):)

    lol govt school giye, kadda igenaganna private yannama one ne. poddak katha karanna practice wunama ibema hadenawa.

    eth mama hithanne ne mata english hondatama puluwan kiyala (api suddo newei ne :P ) yanthan katha karagannai liyannai puluwan.
     

    lasithah

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    SL Government provides free education to more than 90% students in school level . and 2% to higher studies . Do you ever think that how much of money SL government spends on free education... it is impossible to spend even more.. cos government spends more than 10 lacks for creating a Doctor and more than 5 lahks for engineer .. do you ever think that how the hell does government get that much of money ?

    every single man in this country pays for free education... example . A Clark who pays for free education has a son . that son couldn't enter to the government campus because of 2% ... now can you pls tell me is it fair?.. his father pays tax but he cannot go to campus...

    then your next point is increase the level free education . it is ok if government has money to spend ... then SL government has to increase the tax level more than you imagine . do you agree to pay more to government .. then that is what you should do


    I don't know whether your figures are correct. Let's say they are. If the parliament members given permits for cars each valued 2 million apart from the 10-20 million what they get now; then you can do the simple math to calculate how many extra doctors and engineers you can produce.:yes::yes: in a country where the figure "patients per a doctor" is pretty high..

    There's no question about opening private campuses, colleges or universities; it is a must. But the issue is the real hidden intentions and the way they gonna do it.. Government take more and more loans from world bank and other sources to cover up their ever increasing expenses which mainly due to waste, corruption, pro government projects and campaigns.. :angry::angry: As a result of that government has to do accordingly to world bank.. So the government has to cut out the funding for free services like education, healthcare, transport and others (specially education and healthcare)... that's why you regularly hear about closing of schools, but rarely a opening of new government school or a hospital. Is the population of Sri Lanka decreasing rapidly? I don't think so...

    lankawe capmpus walata therena 2%, lankawe inna selfishma kattiya kiyala kiyanna epa:no::no: onama thanaka honda wagema naraka ayath inna puluwanne:yes::yes: anith eka oya hamoma dethunsere A/L liya liya try karanne ethenata ennane:P:P campuswala deshapalana paksha walin meheyawana pirisak wagema aththatama sisu ayitheen gena saha asadaranayata wiruddawa katha karana ayath hitiya, innawa... :yes::yes:
     

    C.I.D

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    everybody means everybody :) may be if everybody got paid better, they could all afford private education

    anyway tell me the topic, I will stick to it.
    topic is relative to the "gov uni vs pvt uni"

    the salary problem is a major issue...
    that's why the uni's were closed for atleast 2.5 months (in 2011 may to august):yes::yes:
    also another strike of minor staff of uni is about to come...:baffled::baffled:
    why gov can't understand these issues(this is only a single issue) before they going to establish pvt uni's...!!
    :eek::eek:
    :yes::yes::yes:
    well eventhough the salary of all the gov workers are increased
    it'll be not sufficient for getting the degrees for all people considering the living cost:yes::yes:
     

    001flyD

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    මේ මොකක්ද මේ,මොකා කිව්වත් ලංකාවේ පෞද්ගලික විශ්වවිද්‍යාල ආරම්භ කල යුතුමයි (නිසි ප්‍රමිතින් යටතේ),එහෙම නැත්තන් ඔයා බ්‍රිතාන්‍ය විශය නිර්දෙශයට දුවන පාසැල ටිකත් වහන්න ඔන,මොකද එ ලමයි ඔවාගෙන් එලියට එනකොට මොන ලබ්බට යන්නද,අනික කියෙන් කි දෙනාද තියන යුනි ටිකට තෙරෙන්නෙ.....
     

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    පෞද්ගලික විශ්ව විද්‍යාල අනවශ්‍ය‍යි කි‍යන එක නම් කිසිම පදනමක් නැති තර්ක‍යක්.... පෞද්ගලික විශ්ව විද්‍යාල ති‍යෙන්න ඕනේ.. හැබැ‍යි ඒවා‍යේ ගුණාත්මක බව ගැන රජ‍ය අවධාන‍යෙන් සිටි‍ය ‍යුතු‍යි.
     

    coolioWiZ

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    Maybe in your 'Private Uni Way', you want the kids who only has money but no brains to be doctors as well eh?

    well you will need some brains to learn medicine. it is not something simple, you need dedication and courage, more importantly the ability to retain knowledge to become a properly trained doctor. else you would end up a quack.
    money might be enough to enter a university but you still need the brains to make a successful career out of medicine.


    BTW, I have no strong resistance against private universities. All I want is,

    1. Provide more facilities and better salaries for the lecturers of government universities.

    2. No gov lecturers can be full time lecturers at private universities.

    3. And most importantly, only the students who cannot get into gov universities will be allowed to register in private universities.

    4. The cream of the students will always have to study at gov universities.

    agreed on the first point, facilities and salaries should increase in govt unis
    second point is reasonable too.
    but points, 3 and 4 seems harsh. a student should always have a choice. who can prevent a student from choosing what he/she wants. our country is not a commie hellhole but a democracy where rights are respected (and expected too)
    :)
     

    coolioWiZ

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    I don't know whether your figures are correct. Let's say they are. If the parliament members given permits for cars each valued 2 million apart from the 10-20 million what they get now; then you can do the simple math to calculate how many extra doctors and engineers you can produce.:yes::yes: in a country where the figure "patients per a doctor" is pretty high..

    There's no question about opening private campuses, colleges or universities; it is a must. But the issue is the real hidden intentions and the way they gonna do it.. Government take more and more loans from world bank and other sources to cover up their ever increasing expenses which mainly due to waste, corruption, pro government projects and campaigns.. :angry::angry: As a result of that government has to do accordingly to world bank.. So the government has to cut out the funding for free services like education, healthcare, transport and others (specially education and healthcare)... that's why you regularly hear about closing of schools, but rarely a opening of new government school or a hospital. Is the population of Sri Lanka decreasing rapidly? I don't think so...

    lankawe capmpus walata therena 2%, lankawe inna selfishma kattiya kiyala kiyanna epa:no::no: onama thanaka honda wagema naraka ayath inna puluwanne:yes::yes: anith eka oya hamoma dethunsere A/L liya liya try karanne ethenata ennane:P:P campuswala deshapalana paksha walin meheyawana pirisak wagema aththatama sisu ayitheen gena saha asadaranayata wiruddawa katha karana ayath hitiya, innawa... :yes::yes:

    completely agreed :) it is simple as reduce corruption and use the saved resources wisely. the education sector private or govt deserves investment. because ultimately it translates to a bright and able studentforce created for the future.
     

    Lokka Ayya

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    Ehenan ithin campus yanna beri una ewun gena kiyanna deyak nene ban. Nikan moda katha kiyanna epa.

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    umba nam anthimai..ko anek tika quote karala dala nah ne.. hehe mama campus inne.. aluthen yanna deyak nah.. :) :) umabla wage owa apita magic neme.umbala ne me campus yana ekath maha loku deyak kiyagena oluwa idimmo gena thiyenne..

    umba man gana danne nathi unata meke godak un dannawa man gana.. mee harak thama umbala..nathnam hari dewal walta uth goshanaya karanne nathuwa.. lectures lata gagaha .. gona wada karawada,,buddimath un..

    nikan dena dein igena ganilla ban..thawath asarana minissunge salli wali pissu kellin ne nathuwa..

    btw for ur info .. i m a civil engineer.:)
     

    y2j2

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    ekata wisaduma private campus da ?? :oo:
    nathnam government ewaye capacity wedi karala facilities dena ekada

    itin yako eka 4% k kranna munta kochchara kal yayda? gon part noda hitapan, engineerin, meicine walata witarai ban thama rajaye campous wala demand, un witharai ganan ganne eliyata eddi , nikan puke seen noda hitapan
     

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    yep.. still...

    මම ඔයාට එක උදාහරණයක් කියන්නම්. (මටත් මේව දකිනකොට රිප්ලයි නොදා බෑ :sorry:)
    NIBM SLIIT වගේ ඒවට වැඩිපුරම එන්නෙ මොරටුව,UCSC වගේ කැම්පස් වල ලෙක්චරර්ස්ලා. මොකද ගෙවීම හොඳයි. රජයෙන් ගෙවනව වගේ දෙගුණයක් ගෙවනව. එතකොට රජයේ ඒවයි උගන්නන්න යනවද එයාලා..? ඒකෙන් රජයේ සරසවි වැහෙන්න උදව්වක් වෙන්නෙ නැද්ද? හොඳම ලෙක්චරර්ස්ලා රජයෙ ඒවට යන්නෙ නැතුව ප්‍රයිවට් ඒවට එනවා. රජයෙන් හරියට එයාලගෙ සේවයට ගෙවනවනම් එහෙම එන්නෙ නෑ. දැන් කියයි ප්‍රයිවට් කැම්පස් වලින් එන ආදායමෙන් කරන්න පුලුවන් කියල. එහෙම වෙනවද කියල දැනට උනත් හොයල බලන්න පුලුවන්. දැනට තියන ප්‍රයිවට් ඒවයින් එන ආදායම යන්නෙ කොහාටද? ඒවයින් රජයේ සරසවි වල මොනවද කරල තියෙන්නෙ? මම කියන්නෙ දැනට තියන සරසවි කප්පාදු වෙන්න දෙන්න හොඳ නෑ :confused::confused:

    Machan mehemai. Uba kiyana eka aththa. 100%k agree wenawa. Eth mehema scene ekak thiyanawa. Pvt Unis walin genna ganne danata Gov Uni eheka inna hoda lecturer kenek. Godak welawata ganne visiting lecturersla hatiyata. Dr. enakota machan egollo egollonge piliganeema thiya ganna Gov uni walin ayin wenne na. Mokada Pvt Uni eka gaththoth eke yana programs eka eka foreign uni walin karana ewwa. So program eke standard eka hoda unata mehe daapu Pvt Uni ekata piliganeemak athi wenne na. Man kiwwa eka pahadiliyda manda. Ketiyen kiwwoth Pvt Uni eheka duwanne eka eka Uni wala affiliated degrees. Ithin Degree standard ekak thibbata Pvt Uni eke namata standard ekak na. So Lecturersla koi welewath Full time Pvt Uni eke Lecturers la wenne na. Uni namak gaththoth Gov Uni wala thama piliganeema thiyenne. Moratuwa Eng Faculty kiwwama eke piliganeema wadiy. So kawadaawath Lecturer kenek ehema Pvt Uni eheka full time lecturer wenna enne na. Ena Lecturer unath kiyanawa eka eyata risk ekaklu mokada Gov Uni stable.

    Ithin Lecturer enawanun enne aniwa part time lecture kenek hatiyata. Eyata geewana gaana godak hodai. Ithin ehema unama oya kiyana risk ekak na Gov Unis lecturers lata daala yanna tharan. Neda? :confused: Uba hoda ekek bun. Ubata aduma tharame direct point ekak thiyanawa me eka ekaa boruwata kaa gahanawata wada :)
     

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    Maybe in your 'Private Uni Way', you want the kids who only has money but no brains to be doctors as well eh?



    WTF???? :lol: So what you are basically saying is Pvt Unis offer degrees to people who are not eligible to hold that degree? :lol: We just talked about it yo :lol: If the course is affiliate to a renown foreign University who maintains a good standard from which end of your blessed digestive system are you telling that anyone can earn that degree? :lol: It's BS :rofl:
     

    y2j2

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    3. And most importantly, only the students who cannot get into gov universities will be allowed to register in private universities.

    4. The cream of the students will always have to study at gov universities.



    ගොන් පාර්ට් දාන්න එපා බන් , engineering faculty එක මිස් වෙලා gvt uni එකක science faclty එකට select වෙච්ච එකෙක්ට වත්කමක් තියනවනම් pvt uni එක්ක engineering කරන්න , උබ කියන්නේ උට pvt uni යන එක තහනම් කරන්න කියලද ? govt uni එකේ science කරලා teacher කෙනෙක් වෙන්න කියලද ? ඕකට තම බන් කුහක කම කියන්නේ , කුහක කම සහ පැහැදිලි ඉරිසියාව
     
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    itin yako eka 4% k kranna munta kochchara kal yayda? gon part noda hitapan, engineerin, meicine walata witarai ban thama rajaye campous wala demand, un witharai ganan ganne eliyata eddi , nikan puke seen noda hitapan

    මෙතන මෙච්චර වෙලා කතා කලේ පොඩ්ඩක් හරි හිතන්න පුලුවන් මිනිස්සු පොයින්ට් එකකට වැදගත් විදියට. උඹ නිකන් තියන පු* ටිංකිරි ගාගන්නෙ නැතුව පලයන්. කතාකරන්න ඉගෙනගෙන වරෙන්.( මම උඹ වගේ එවුන්ට කතාකරන්නෙ මෙහෙමයි.
    අනිත් එවුන් සොරි වෙන්න ඕන මෙහෙම කතාකලාට
    :rolleyes:.)
     

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    It seems like you have your own definition for rich kids. How come no rich kids get to be doctors? Do you think that there are no rich kids in the government universities? But FYI, there are 'rich kids' who have not only the money, but the brains as well.

    Maybe in your 'Private Uni Way', you want the kids who only has money but no brains to be doctors as well eh?

    "the dreams of rich kids on the account of poor kids"??? Where did that come from? This is the first time I heard such a thing in my life. LOL. Looks like you have messed it all up.



    the whole rich kid scenario was presented with a hint of sarcasm while replying the post I was replying, so I don't think I should reconsider my definition for anything.

    and it is utterly difficult to obtain even an IT degree from a private uni, so it is sort of understood at this point, that brain factor is a must for any sort of university. so what I said was said contextually. when I assert something, do I have to present all the assumptions accordingly ? I thought somethings like 'students requiring a brain' was widely understood. anyways.

    sorry to say this, you messed it up for yourself. you didn't seem to need any help from me in that department :lol:

    to sum up;


    • current medi schools - super brains get to be doctors
    • private + current - rich and smart enough brains get to be doctors. :)

    BTW, I have no strong resistance against private universities. All I want is,

    1. Provide more facilities and better salaries for the lecturers of government universities.

    2. No gov lecturers can be full time lecturers at private universities.

    3. And most importantly, only the students who cannot get into gov universities will be allowed to register in private universities.

    4. The cream of the students will always have to study at gov universities.

    Then you can start as much private universities as you want. That won't make a tiny impact on the gov universities. But otherwise that would be the end of free education.
    Ehenan ithin campus yanna beri una ewun gena kiyanna deyak nene ban. Nikan moda katha kiyanna epa.

    .

    I think anybody that passed A/L should be eligible to study a degree medical or whatever. (in relevant stream, in case you wanted it spilled out for you)

    and why would a lecturer need to work only for the government? if he decides to go for a better career opportunity, no government should study him, there's democracy after all. if government can't keep up with private uni's in terms of salary, well woe to them.

    I however tend to agree with you, students having to pass some well established point before they proceed operating on human.

    topic is relative to the "gov uni vs pvt uni"

    the salary problem is a major issue...
    that's why the uni's were closed for atleast 2.5 months (in 2011 may to august):yes::yes:
    also another strike of minor staff of uni is about to come...:baffled::baffled:
    why gov can't understand these issues(this is only a single issue) before they going to establish pvt uni's...!!
    :eek::eek:
    :yes::yes::yes:
    well eventhough the salary of all the gov workers are increased
    it'll be not sufficient for getting the degrees for all people considering the living cost:yes::yes:

    then, by god, may the people who can afford that education go for it..