COPS ! when can you escape ?

[rash87]

Ya deff he should help me..

So as a civilian I used the safe approach by not arguing and a start a fight with the whole department of police later on

Nash's approach would deff suit a lawyer! Coz they know about the legal framework well and they BAR association do have some power over police.

I had a sticker of BAR association in a vehicle and it was never got stopped by police. Not even once.

Police are afraid to talk law coz they don't know. And the lawyers do take advantage of it. But us, civilians can't do that. What we can do is to find another loop hole in the same system

Back to where we started

Ya true.. So sue me

haha no use, cuz u can still use that FAVOUR power

 

[DJ.Parker]

No, it's a JOB !

Whether it's good or bad depends on how do you like to see it, or which side of the fence you are on.

A convicted person is not guilty untill he is proven so. So, till due time, he is innocent and has the right to fight for his freedom.

But, as per you question, if a 'real murderer" get's away with it, it's not the lawyer who defended him is at fault or he has commited the sin..... It's the ACCUSING lawyer who has failed to do his duty well in proving it.

okayy well the accousing lawyer failed cos the defending lawyer used his abilities better ya? in another sense he used his abilities to save the murderer
that's how i see

 

[x-pert]

c even now ur replyin usin a loop hole
well if u knw the law y wouldnt u defy? if u knw it u knw that ur safe
but the point is majority doesnt know the public law
well I guess if they at least educate children in school about law SL would be a better place

(they hav boring subs at skl )

No you can't do that machang...

Police is powerful these days. If they plant some drugs in your vehicle and if they said it was yours, then sorry.com

(But yes, still they have to prove it.)

But if you don't have good connections, in the jail they'll hit you untill you acknowledge that it's your drugs..... That's SL police!

So as a policy, I don't talk law with police, just for the sake of self preservation.

But I never bribe those buggers. (Never paid fines as well )

 

[x-pert]

1. Back to where we started


2. haha no use, cuz u can still use that FAVOUR power

1. Back to the real topic of the thread

2. Tha't the power of relationships you build when working in a bank

 

[rash87]

No, it's a JOB !

Whether it's good or bad depends on how do you like to see it, or which side of the fence you are on.

A convicted person is not guilty untill he is proven so. So, till due time, he is innocent and has the right to fight for his freedom.

But, as per you question, if a 'real murderer" get's away with it, it's not the lawyer who defended him is at fault or he has commited the sin..... It's the ACCUSING lawyer who has failed to do his duty well in proving it.

Well isn't this another loop hole of the law, cuz sometimes crystal clear cases are pending due various demands of the law. like in a murder case the the item which was used for muder must be presented.

Well It's due to relative measures one lawyer beating on other, in the end both are lawyers

 

[DJ.Parker]

No you can't do that machang...

Police is powerful these days. If they plant some drugs in your vehicle and if they said it was yours, then sorry.com

(But yes, still they have to prove it.)

But if you don't have good connections, in the jail they'll hit you untill you acknowledge that it's your drugs..... That's SL police!

So as a policy, I don't talk law with police, just for the sake of self preservation.

But I never bribe those buggers. (Never paid fines as well )

in that case contact nash-node may be?
ya true........world is sick than we think

and muchan what's the minimum qualification 4 a constaple? 8 pass da? well I guess they hav to get some quality policemen n they should convince ppl that police isnt bad as we think..

 

[Nash_Node]

haha I expected that comment

Well the truth is it's neither you nor me mate. The criminal is the system of Sri Lanka. Where you can get your license back from a single call to a police inspector... It's all on relationship based...

The result was the same - Going free. But we used 2 different approaches.

You - A risky approach if done by a civilian like me. Me - A cunning but an apporach without any risk

The ultimate criminal is the systems in Sri Lanka which has a lot of loop holes.

Nop, I disagree.

The system in Sri Lanka has no loop holes. Would you believe me if I say that an Ordinary citizen sued DSI (the rubber foot wear manufacture) over a skin rash which was a result in wearing their slippers.......the court ordered 500,000 to be paid to the man as compensasion.

These loop holes of the system is a result in Lack of RESPECT and CARE for your self and the society as a whole.

As a citizen, we should be taught from the small days to stand our grounds and do what's RIGHT. Compassion for the other human being and the respect for your own self dignity is what lacks in Sri Lankans.

But at the end of the day X-pert.... who are we kidding with ? A cop get's a salary of a mere 10 K and he's expected to run a family also to keep the law. With all the rising cost of living and all other factors, you simply can't blame him being accepting a Bribe.

Example : I was in Singapore once with a friend, he was charged nearly US$ 250 for an illegle U turn..though he was offering US$100 for the cop, never took it.,.......on the same context, I can "DRIVE" in Mumbai without any LICENSE of a sort and can get away with it by just bribing Indian Rs. 20 to the cop.

 

[Nash_Node]

ya that's true.

Even police can't shoot any body if they were not assuslted by first as I know.

Yes, SHOOT only when SHOT !

 

[Nash_Node]

thats from ur perspective
nash being intelligent doesnt mean that others r un-intelligent

hows my logic?

No comments on your Logic

 

[rash87]

No you can't do that machang...

Police is powerful these days. If they plant some drugs in your vehicle and if they said it was yours, then sorry.com

(But yes, still they have to prove it.)

But if you don't have good connections, in the jail they'll hit you untill you acknowledge that it's your drugs..... That's SL police!

So as a policy, I don't talk law with police, just for the sake of self preservation.

But I never bribe those buggers. (Never paid fines as well )

Well the situation in SL is real pathetic
About drugs, seen I have seen those kinda case & yeah even I yelled saying to u about u having favours, that's the same thing I rely on when I drive cuz I don't have license & I have got away atleast 5 times now. Not to mention I have helped my friends also.
It's just that people yell saying we have to change the system, yet the people who make the soung don't wanna change the system

 

[x-pert]

in that case contact nash-node may be?
ya true........world is sick than we think

and muchan what's the minimum qualification 4 a constaple? 8 pass da? well I guess they hav to get some quality policemen n they should convince ppl that police isnt bad as we think..

Hmmm ya machang.. Sadly that's the reality.. So better not argue using law points with them

Constable current requirement is O/L 6 subjects machang.

Yes. In a way what you're telling is true. But they can't get A/L qualified people for that post. Because they have to pay them more according to the qualification... And on the other hand O/L 6 subs passed people should have a job....

http://www.police.lk/divisions/pc.asp

 

[rash87]

1. Back to the real topic of the thread

2. Tha't the power of relationships you build when working in a bank

1. Nothing to comment on that

2. Well it's kinda another bribe I guess, since u helped those the people who do favours for u (tht's the bribe u give to them) which enables u to build the relationship & when the time comes u remind them
well Why yell so dramatically when bribing the police?

 

[DJ.Parker]

Hmmm ya machang.. Sadly that's the reality.. So better not argue using law points with them

Constable current requirement is O/L 6 subjects machang.

Yes. In a way what you're telling is true. But they can't get A/L qualified people for that post. Because they have to pay them more according to the qualification... And on the other hand O/L 6 subs passed people should have a job....

http://www.police.lk/divisions/pc.asp

reducing the qualifications=reducing the quality
true they must have jobs.......but police is there to safeguard the citizen...
(im not tellin that OL qualified ppl cant do it....but the higher the qualifications go the higher the service they give)

 

[x-pert]

Nop, I disagree.

The system in Sri Lanka has no loop holes. Would you believe me if I say that an Ordinary citizen sued DSI (the rubber foot wear manufacture) over a skin rash which was a result in wearing their slippers.......the court ordered 500,000 to be paid to the man as compensasion.

These loop holes of the system is a result in Lack of RESPECT and CARE for your self and the society as a whole.

As a citizen, we should be taught from the small days to stand our grounds and do what's RIGHT. Compassion for the other human being and the respect for your own self dignity is what lacks in Sri Lankans.

But at the end of the day X-pert.... who are we kidding with ? A cop get's a salary of a mere 10 K and he's expected to run a family also to keep the law. With all the rising cost of living and all other factors, you simply can't blame him being accepting a Bribe.

Example : I was in Singapore once with a friend, he was charged nearly US$ 250 for an illegle U turn..though he was offering US$100 for the cop, never took it.,.......on the same context, I can "DRIVE" in Mumbai without any LICENSE of a sort and can get away with it by just bribing Indian Rs. 20 to the cop.

I don't think the system is perfect. I was not talking only about the legal framework. The whole system is corrupted mate. - you can't say no.

Yes, cops' salary and their living conditions play a huge role... Very true. That's why they try to earn money by bribs... See.. That's another situation to show that the system is not perfect

 

[Nash_Node]

So who is the criminal?

Me or the inspector

I just asked a favor. So he should have declined it....

Just that you know X-pert, you have commited a CRIME is asking for it.

Obstruction and interfierence with Government and the case would be pretty serious when it involves the Police.

Yes, the inspector can and MUST deny your request and in-trun SUE you for asking that too.

But, HECK !!! this is Sri Lanka we are talking about.

 

[DJ.Parker]

Nop, I disagree.

The system in Sri Lanka has no loop holes. Would you believe me if I say that an Ordinary citizen sued DSI (the rubber foot wear manufacture) over a skin rash which was a result in wearing their slippers.......the court ordered 500,000 to be paid to the man as compensasion.

These loop holes of the system is a result in Lack of RESPECT and CARE for your self and the society as a whole.

As a citizen, we should be taught from the small days to stand our grounds and do what's RIGHT. Compassion for the other human being and the respect for your own self dignity is what lacks in Sri Lankans.

But at the end of the day X-pert.... who are we kidding with ? A cop get's a salary of a mere 10 K and he's expected to run a family also to keep the law. With all the rising cost of living and all other factors, you simply can't blame him being accepting a Bribe.

Example : I was in Singapore once with a friend, he was charged nearly US$ 250 for an illegle U turn..though he was offering US$100 for the cop, never took it.,.......on the same context, I can "DRIVE" in Mumbai without any LICENSE of a sort and can get away with it by just bribing Indian Rs. 20 to the cop.

haha I knew that u'd justify the cop

 

[x-pert]

1. Nothing to comment on that

2. Well it's kinda another bribe I guess, since u helped those the people who do favours for u (tht's the bribe u give to them) which enables u to build the relationship & when the time comes u remind them
well Why yell so dramatically when bribing the police?

Nope.. I am not very fond of bribing police on't know why... But personally I don't like it.

And no. All I did was helping that guy to fill some forms to open an account. Just a constable. But believe me, ome cosso have more power that the chief of the station

 

[Nash_Node]

Ya deff he should help me..

So as a civilian I used the safe approach by not arguing and a start a fight with the whole department of police later on

Nash's approach would deff suit a lawyer! Coz they know about the legal framework well and they BAR association do have some power over police.

I had a sticker of BAR association in a vehicle and it was never got stopped by police. Not even once.

Police are afraid to talk law coz they don't know. And the lawyers do take advantage of it. But us, civilians can't do that. What we can do is to find another loop hole in the same system

OH !!.. Trust me, the BAR assosiation has un-president power and authority over them

 

[rash87]

But at the end of the day X-pert.... who are we kidding with ? A cop get's a salary of a mere 10 K and he's expected to run a family also to keep the law. With all the rising cost of living and all other factors, you simply can't blame him being accepting a Bribe.

Well I was coming to that point. So whose fault is it then? Politicians. OPEC, USA president?????
Question to be answered, not by finding the convict but by demolishing the poverty
As Sri Lankans the LAND is the biggest resource we have, we have to put it in to the good use

 

[Nash_Node]

okayy well the accousing lawyer failed cos the defending lawyer used his abilities better ya? in another sense he used his abilities to save the murderer
that's how i see

Rather, he defended his Client in a wrongful accusation of Commiting Murder !!!

(I told you, it's the way you like to see it and which side of the fence you are on)