Creation is a Scientific Fact

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    Those fucking Christians who killed Galileo should not talk science

    Those fucking Christians who killed Galileo should not talk science.Why scientist are atheist and Muslim not Cristian. Because scientist were persecuted. and murdered.
     

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    Will you drink poison for me? Mark 16:18
    Believers are told in Mark 16:17-18 that they can drink "any deadly thing" and "it shall not hurt” them. But I don't think you would be naive enough to drink any arsenic offered. Perhaps I'm wrong and you would be willing to test the Book's veracity-"lay it on the line" so to speak?
    Biblical Errancy Pamphlets by Dennis McKinsey Pamphlet 1 Q16.(Mark 16:15-18 NIV) He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation. {16} Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. {17} And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; {18} they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well."


    IF YOU TRULY BELIEVE IN JESUS THEN DRINK
     

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    Yes then it will be a one big reason to b'live in him,

    No...It seems that you did not understand my comment. I urge you read and re-read it.

    there is a law & punishment for onces who violating that law , other thing you can forget about where you came from but you always worried about what happen after you die , GOD is try to help you to find the true meaning of this life but he needs your attention .

    How can you tell it with certinity? How do you know that there is such punishment? Isn't it incompatible with the love of God? May be God is planing to reward the atheists and the agnostics for being intellectual and rational.

    there is a moral law and there is moral law giver

    Do we have any reason to believe that this moral law giver is not Flying Spaghetti Monster?




    There is only one true all mighty GOD , do not say that god this god ok :no:
    Why?

    Then people will not brother about searching for a meaning for this life, there is a big GAP if you could not find it, natural event can not bring life (specailly Intelligent life , simple things can not create more complicate things this a is very simple logic




    ha ha ha do not be so childish brother .... there is no flying spaghetti monsters, did he claim to be the creator ? if he is really a monster kind of a guy i can tell you one thing he is one hell of Intelligent monster i guess :lol:


    Hey son, even this normal computer is a man made marvel how do you ever think of a machine can create such a complicate human with emotions, freedom of chioce .... but there is a one hell of a claim in the Bible ........ take a look at that verse

    Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground." - Genesis 1:26

    if you have read (study) the bible carefully you can see there is a huge connection between the belief in God and creation. other things is his creation declares his glory in one way or another :yes:

    From the beginning man rules the world I do not know Devil can bring robots to take place of human but still this is really true , isn't it ?



    I will show you little by little how Christianity answer to all these questions


    Definition of GOD

    God is most often conceived of as the supernatural creator and overseer of the universe. Theologians have ascribed a variety of attributes to the many different conceptions of God. The most common among these include omniscience (infinite knowledge), omnipotence (unlimited power), omnipresence (present everywhere), omnibenevolence (perfect goodness), divine simplicity, and eternal and necessary existence.

    God has also been conceived as being incorporeal (immaterial), a personal being, the source of all moral obligation, and the "greatest conceivable existent".[1] These attributes were all supported to varying degrees by the early Jewish, Christian and Muslim theologian philosophers, including Maimonides,[2] Augustine of Hippo,[2] and Al-Ghazali,[3] respectively


    Read this verse & try to understand

    “I am the vine; you are the branches. If a man remains in me and I in him, he will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. 6 If anyone does not remain in me, he is like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. 7 If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be given you. 8 This is to my Father’s glory, that you bear much fruit, showing yourselves to be my disciples.

    You did not understand why I mentioned about flying spaghetti monster and supercomputers. For the sake of the argument, I am assuming here that those cosmological arguments tells us that the universe is a creation. Nonetheless, that does not imply the existance of a particular creater of a particular religion. Even if we accept that the universe is created, that does not tells us anything about the identity of the creater. Logically speaking, there can be many many and many candidates for the position of the creater. God is just one candidate in the list. Flying Spaghetti Monster and supercomputers are another two candidates. And, of course, logically speaking, there can be many candidates and we do not have any reason to believe that a chosen candidate is the true creater.
     
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    No...It seems that you did not understand my comment. I urge you read and re-read it.


    No need brother you b'live whaever you want to b'live OK ;)






    How can you tell it with certinity? How do you know that there is such punishment? Isn't it incompatible with the love of God? May be God is planing to reward the atheists and the agnostics for being intellectual and rational.




    Do not forget that God is all justice as well lot of people misunderstood this doctrine , first you have to make a clear statement about your view about punishment brother ? otherthing is in this system you are the one who decide your future

    His leaning model will be Cause & Effect
    :yes:

    Do we have any reason to believe that this moral law giver is not Flying Spaghetti Monster?[/
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    We know how to define God, first can you define your Flying Spaghitti Monster? any specail attributes




    Why?



    You did not understand why I mentioned about flying spaghetti monster and supercomputers. For the sake of the argument, I am assuming here that those cosmological arguments tells us that the universe is a creation. Nonetheless, that does not imply the existance of a particular creater of a particular religion. Even if we accept that the universe is created, that does not tells us anything about the identity of the creater. Logically speaking, there can be many many and many candidates for the position of the creater. God is just one candidate in the list. Flying Spaghetti Monster and supercomputers are another two candidates. And, of course, logically speaking, there can be many candidates and we do not have any reason to believe that a chosen candidate is the true creater.


    What a silly argument Brother As I told you before even you can say you created the universe or you can bring all those stupid monsters into the scene but Did your monster claim to be so? Forget about Creating this universe can he give life to any dead person?

    Brother Jesus did Miracles he rose people from the dead, even nature listen to his words he did all kind of miracles

    he forgive sins he gave sight to born blind he himself defeat the death (our biggest problem)

    I would kindly like to ask you what can your Flying Spaghetti Monster can do ? imagination is not just enough brother

    There are very few contenders

    1. Jesus Christ
    2. Buddha (but he said he is not GOD)
    3. Allah






    I know he is GOD like he said "you are from this world I am from above"
     

    Y2K

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    He claims to forgive sins. He says He has always existed. He says He is coming to judge the world at the end of time. Now let us get this clear. Among Pantheists, like the Indians, anyone might say that he was part of God, or one with God: there would be nothing very odd about it. But this man, since He was a Jew, could not mean that kind of God. God, in their language, meant the Being outside the world Who had made it and was infinitely different from anything else. And when you have grasped that you will see that what This man said, was, quite simply, the most shocking thing that has ever been uttered by human lips.
    C.S Lewis
     

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    Mhh I didn't read all the pages,but,simply,we don't need to believe in a god to live as a man down to earth.

    මේ පොලවේ පය ගහල ජීවත් වෙන්න නොපෙනෙන දෙවි කෙනෙක් ගැන විශ්වාස කරන්න ඕනේ නෑ

    No offense to anyone,just my idea.