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    coolioWiZ said:
    k let's forget maynard for now . . .i'm sure he'll be shot or will selfpwn himself under influence while thinking about walking in parallel worlds.

    lol i'm not defending emos . . but the right to freespeech, coz freedom of expression is an ultimate civil liberty.

    I'll like to expand on the diversity point, this time i'll focus on alternative cultures . . .why do all these alternative cultures exist . . it's in the word itself "alternative" . It's an alternative to the "normal" world . . there are many reasons which lead to the formation of these cultures . . music, fashion, different ideals and mostly the driving force is the desire to be different. About emos not killing themselves, i told u the goal of emo culture is not final suicide . .it's to express their helpless state :lol: and how powerless they are to overcome it. Unlike supressing their emotions they express it to an extreme degree. It's just something different . . .we will have to accept it. . .diversity is what will lead to a better world . . . the best will be left while the weak will be supressed . . it's all survival of the fittest in this "rational" world.

    well about the world ending, it'll not be due to all coming to one mind and agreeing to end it for good, but might be from one crazy mind which goes haywire just for a second.

    you are not worth of explaining about maynards intentions that guy is prety optimistic these days

    and helpless states? lol its not only emos that get to feel these fucked up things i mean everyone feels like crap and the good thing is most of them instead of painting their faces and drawing shallow (not vital) lines around their wrists, whining about how lifes betraying/mistreating them and how the worlds become unfair to them , try to get along with the issues and inner struggles of the life which is common to everybody.
    and if necessary the majory would peacefully kill themselves simply preventing the unwanted media attention where emos would make a big deal outa it ..
    now whos pathetic? emos are whos retarded ? emos are

    and why on the earth to express your sorrow in an extreme fashon would others give a shit about it? no
    that will only help you make a clown outa yourself and if thats what one choose im never to worry about it and i can look at it with an open mind cos thats like some sorta art lol

    and formation of emo it all came to fame with music where this certain type of music dealt with self compasion imo lead the fans of those sub genres to believe in themselves being in a different level of agony which nobody would understand as per them that made them feel specail in a retarded way..thats without no doubt is alternative ..same goes with goths
     

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    twisted said:
    you are not worth of explaining about maynards intentions that guy is prety optimistic these days

    no comments :P

    twisted said:
    same goes with goths

    about goths is a different case :lol: I'll focus on this emo thing.




    twisted said:
    and formation of emo it all came to fame with music where this certain type of music dealt with self compasion imo lead the fans of those sub genres to believe in themselves being in a different level of agony which nobody would understand as per them that made them feel specail in a retarded way..thats without no doubt is alternative

    ya i agree when u say emo was something which came with the music, remember that what we classify as emo music has it's origins in alternative rock as pretty much as punk and hardcore. what i differentiate in emo music is the thrash beats and whinny lyrics. Also the bands had popularized a certain dresscode, more likely of punk origin. I agree on all of these coz everything has it's begining. Why a person might consider an emo a retard . . coz the feelings of the emo is not compatible with him.
    Take for example a trainee programmer in a mid sized company who's fresh outta college,with lot's of friends, got a gf recently and she is all over him, and is quite positive of carving a piece of the world just for himself and his love. . .this is the ultra positive type guy. . .he had not experience a difference for fuck's sake. This guy may not understand why emo's can exist at all, can't understand why they are soo whinny, can't understand why the hell these buggers are not shot for good. It's coz he is not in a position to appreciate a difference, can't collect the fact that not everyone in the world is happy as him, not everyone got girls mooning after them, not everyone got a job with promotion prospects, not everyone got a nice school life. It's the diversity of the world he can't understand. So for him this whining bugger is a retard who needs to be killed, a plauge that needs to be cleansed. If he had experienced something extreme in his life, he'd have come to appreciate the existance of these ppl, be compasionate about them, give a helping hand if they are willing to accept. This is the essence of the society as i capture.

    twisted said:
    and why on the earth to express your sorrow in an extreme fashon .....
    that will only help you make a clown outa yourself and if thats what one choose im never to worry about it and i can look at it with an open mind cos thats like some sorta art lol

    It's their culture that they express their thoughts in an extreme way. It might make them look as clowns for some . . and about that "some" i explained earlier . . ultra positivist conservatives, who never experienced a thing in their life. Every culture has it's own identity, they try to build that identity through fashion, music and even protest movements. They prefer the identity coz they can show that they belong to this alternative culture. Now not all will like to show off . .i'll come to that later, why a person wants to show off (i'll leave the wannabes aside) it's coz he can defy the society which made a clown outta him, for the purpose of rebellion . . .for example take u provoke, injure a tiger . .it will not cover in fear, it will become more defiant and will attack u with force. That's what happens to a person who is provked rentless by the society. . .this culture is their way of rebellion and way of attaking back

    twisted said:
    would others give a shit about it? no

    yes they give more than a shit about it, if else why the hell are we dissing about emos :lol:

    twisted said:
    and helpless states? lol its not only emos that get to feel these fucked up things i mean everyone feels like crap . . . . , try to get along with the issues and inner struggles of the life which is common to everybody.

    Agreed that not only emos are the helpless, but u can't expect everyone to react in the same way, then the world will be full of emos. It's the diversity again, not every one reacts same to things, coz there is a thing called choice, emos are emos coz the choose to be emo, and about other ppl they have different choices . .. so utter depressed folks may commit suicide without even a note . . .and we know why the hell that guy decided to take his life. And some may react like nothing happend at all (no resistance) they may stay in the hole till they meet their ultimate demise, maybe some will fight a different game. In an emo's case, it's just his choice of resistance.

    twisted said:
    and the good thing is most of them instead of painting their faces and drawing shallow (not vital) lines around their wrists, whining about how lifes betraying/mistreating them and how the worlds become unfair to them

    This is just a media stereotype of the emos, and that's what they use to imprint fear in the minds of other ppl, as emos are some suicidal maniacs with a tendency for self mutilation.

    twisted said:
    and if necessary the majory would peacefully kill themselves simply preventing the unwanted media attention where emos would make a big deal outa it ..

    who asked the media to give attention to these things, again the media nosing about stuff shows what this world is made of, they reject the emos, but still they are curious about their doings and want a say in the matters, leave the emos to themselves. It's a paradox coz it's the media itself which made these emos, and it's the media which directs the society to suppress them, and it's media which makes a big deal out of what emos are doing. I'm not blaming the media for this, coz why media does this, it's due to the society's own curiosity and douchebaggery. Society take blame. And this situation about media doesn't only apply to emo culture, they will do any thing from u'r next door aunt to paris hilton
     

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    coolioWiZ said:
    no comments :P



    about goths is a different case :lol: I'll focus on this emo thing.






    ya i agree when u say emo was something which came with the music, remember that what we classify as emo music has it's origins in alternative rock as pretty much as punk and hardcore. what i differentiate in emo music is the thrash beats and whinny lyrics. Also the bands had popularized a certain dresscode, more likely of punk origin. I agree on all of these coz everything has it's begining. Why a person might consider an emo a retard . . coz the feelings of the emo is not compatible with him.
    Take for example a trainee programmer in a mid sized company who's fresh outta college,with lot's of friends, got a gf recently and she is all over him, and is quite positive of carving a piece of the world just for himself and his love. . .this is the ultra positive type guy. . .he had not experience a difference for fuck's sake. This guy may not understand why emo's can exist at all, can't understand why they are soo whinny, can't understand why the hell these buggers are not shot for good. It's coz he is not in a position to appreciate a difference, can't collect the fact that not everyone in the world is happy as him, not everyone got girls mooning after them, not everyone got a job with promotion prospects, not everyone got a nice school life. It's the diversity of the world he can't understand. So for him this whining bugger is a retard who needs to be killed, a plauge that needs to be cleansed. If he had experienced something extreme in his life, he'd have come to appreciate the existance of these ppl, be compasionate about them, give a helping hand if they are willing to accept. This is the essence of the society as i capture.



    It's their culture that they express their thoughts in an extreme way. It might make them look as clowns for some . . and about that "some" i explained earlier . . ultra positivist conservatives, who never experienced a thing in their life. Every culture has it's own identity, they try to build that identity through fashion, music and even protest movements. They prefer the identity coz they can show that they belong to this alternative culture. Now not all will like to show off . .i'll come to that later, why a person wants to show off (i'll leave the wannabes aside) it's coz he can defy the society which made a clown outta him, for the purpose of rebellion . . .for example take u provoke, injure a tiger . .it will not cover in fear, it will become more defiant and will attack u with force. That's what happens to a person who is provked rentless by the society. . .this culture is their way of rebellion and way of attaking back



    yes they give more than a shit about it, if else why the hell are we dissing about emos :lol:



    Agreed that not only emos are the helpless, but u can't expect everyone to react in the same way, then the world will be full of emos. It's the diversity again, not every one reacts same to things, coz there is a thing called choice, emos are emos coz the choose to be emo, and about other ppl they have different choices . .. so utter depressed folks may commit suicide without even a note . . .and we know why the hell that guy decided to take his life. And some may react like nothing happend at all (no resistance) they may stay in the hole till they meet their ultimate demise, maybe some will fight a different game. In an emo's case, it's just his choice of resistance.



    This is just a media stereotype of the emos, and that's what they use to imprint fear in the minds of other ppl, as emos are some suicidal maniacs with a tendency for self mutilation.



    who asked the media to give attention to these things, again the media nosing about stuff shows what this world is made of, they reject the emos, but still they are curious about their doings and want a say in the matters, leave the emos to themselves. It's a paradox coz it's the media itself which made these emos, and it's the media which directs the society to suppress them, and it's media which makes a big deal out of what emos are doing. I'm not blaming the media for this, coz why media does this, it's due to the society's own curiosity and douchebaggery. Society take blame. And this situation about media doesn't only apply to emo culture, they will do any thing from u'r next door aunt to paris hilton
    ok
     

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    twisted said:
    course its only the fans tht think those are for real..fucking corpses in their ass with knives aint gna do no harm for nobody :P:P

    but a guy crazed about zombies and necrophilia might think different. . .it's just their mindset:P
     

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    eventhough i replied this earlier with a simple "ok" earlier it was only for lulz i do think this deserve a reading and replying
    coolioWiZ said:
    ya i agree when u say emo was something which came with the music, remember that what we classify as emo music has it's origins in alternative rock as pretty much as punk and hardcore. what i differentiate in emo music is the thrash beats and whinny lyrics. Also the bands had popularized a certain dresscode, more likely of punk origin. I agree on all of these coz everything has it's begining. Why a person might consider an emo a retard . . coz the feelings of the emo is not compatible with him.
    Take for example a trainee programmer in a mid sized company who's fresh outta college,with lot's of friends, got a gf recently and she is all over him, and is quite positive of carving a piece of the world just for himself and his love. . .this is the ultra positive type guy. . .he had not experience a difference for fuck's sake. This guy may not understand why emo's can exist at all, can't understand why they are soo whinny, can't understand why the hell these buggers are not shot for good. It's coz he is not in a position to appreciate a difference, can't collect the fact that not everyone in the world is happy as him, not everyone got girls mooning after them, not everyone got a job with promotion prospects, not everyone got a nice school life. It's the diversity of the world he can't understand. So for him this whining bugger is a retard who needs to be killed, a plauge that needs to be cleansed. If he had experienced something extreme in his life, he'd have come to appreciate the existance of these ppl, be compasionate about them, give a helping hand if they are willing to accept. This is the essence of the society as i capture.

    first off emo didnt have nothing to do with alternative rock emo was aruond even before alternative rock and those bands in present that alter into alternative rock dropping there punk elements loose the emo tag among inteligent music lovers..
    and this guy you are talking about in your example dude ..whats peace of mind got to do with anything like education occupation and gf (those can help but not a necessity) one without no education or income could still be a happier person too and no need to say its having a gf that caused most of emos to become wht they are now in the first place...and what about the pressure put upon him by his occupation did you heard of that software company employee who commited suicide due to heavy work load in india recently? no ?
    and having a gf needless to say is like the main source of inner struggles ..so much to worry about so this your perfect happy chap turns out a pretty serious character that understands whats sorrow is and thus that make him dont wna get the whiny piece of crap outa society ..
    you are talking about plain hate there..there can be ppl that hate emos or other alternative ppl that we can forget about..
    those ppl who are in a state of mind to hate what they are not or what they cant stand ..according to them certain ppl shouldnt have been there on earth in the first place its not only the perfect guy in your example but those who that understand sheer agony of life can be haters too ..hating others is a point of view which is not relative right now we are talking about emos in general..

    It's their culture that they express their thoughts in an extreme way. It might make them look as clowns for some . . and about that "some" i explained earlier . . ultra positivist conservatives, who never experienced a thing in their life. Every culture has it's own identity, they try to build that identity through fashion, music and even protest movements. They prefer the identity coz they can show that they belong to this alternative culture. Now not all will like to show off . .i'll come to that later, why a person wants to show off (i'll leave the wannabes aside) it's coz he can defy the society which made a clown outta him, for the purpose of rebellion . . .for example take u provoke, injure a tiger . .it will not cover in fear, it will become more defiant and will attack u with force. That's what happens to a person who is provked rentless by the society. . .this culture is their way of rebellion and way of attaking back

    i just used the name clowns? and does that make me an ultra positivest conservatrive who never experienced a thing in my life? and i in countless times have questioned the future of emo scence as a subculture from myself does that so called subculture have anything to hold on to ? other than their whiny shitty lives? and if they were so true to themselves why the extreme make up and dressing ..? they can just weep cry or hate from the inside right? they dont have to let it show at all so its just for attention seeking purpose alone.. lol and emos are attacking back ..all they are attacking is themselves with blunt blades

    yes they give more than a shit about it, if else why the hell are we dissing about emos :lol:

    they do it for self amusement :rofl::rofl: dont you think its funny to make fun outa emo kids id never get tired of it

    Agreed that not only emos are the helpless, but u can't expect everyone to react in the same way, then the world will be full of emos. It's the diversity again, not every one reacts same to things, coz there is a thing called choice, emos are emos coz the choose to be emo, and about other ppl they have different choices . .. so utter depressed folks may commit suicide without even a note . . .and we know why the hell that guy decided to take his life. And some may react like nothing happend at all (no resistance) they may stay in the hole till they meet their ultimate demise, maybe some will fight a different game. In an emo's case, it's just his choice of resistance.

    you can be something just because you choose to be so..you gta have characteristics being something just for sake of your desire to be so is what wannabes do
    no wonder we got countless wannabes these days because of the concept of free will ..and im not against suicide i do agree with killing yourself under certain conditions and emo are doing it for what? for being bullied or for being sexualy abused by their parents? ppl are supposed to move on thats the beauty of life fuck up then move on

    This is just a media stereotype of the emos, and that's what they use to imprint fear in the minds of other ppl, as emos are some suicidal maniacs with a tendency for self mutilation.

    looks like im gna have to agree with you there

    who asked the media to give attention to these things, again the media nosing about stuff shows what this world is made of, they reject the emos, but still they are curious about their doings and want a say in the matters, leave the emos to themselves. It's a paradox coz it's the media itself which made these emos, and it's the media which directs the society to suppress them, and it's media which makes a big deal out of what emos are doing. I'm not blaming the media for this, coz why media does this, it's due to the society's own curiosity and douchebaggery. Society take blame. And this situation about media doesn't only apply to emo culture, they will do any thing from u'r next door aunt to paris hilton

    there too..if we try to analyze that from the perspective of the media..give em a break man they are just trying to make a living lol and its the human nature that make us curious about the things we despise or to stand against the things we do not believe or things that seem to screw the standards of society..
     
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