DO NOT BUY: Cars with wet timing belts!

[scorpion MW]

Better to avoid most things with 1.0 - 1.2 litre turbo engines. Most of those are just crap made to meet emissions regulations, fuel economy standards and certain tax brackets in certain markets...

Apart from some larger europian engines (i.e. BMW B48, B58..) and Toyota Hybrid drivetrains, pretty much every drivetrain newly introduced within the last 5 -10 years are having some design issue or another.. Emmissions regulations and production costs are killing quality/durable engineering, it`s a simple fact..

මේ bmw engine දෙකේ අවුල මොකක්ද?

 

[nkt]

I am actually about 400km away from home (small holiday) and came across this thread. Speaking of Honda's, my CRV with a K24A (2.4 petrol) just reached 230k on the clock. It hasn't seen a garage/service centre after 100k kms. I've been changing fluids on time (every relavant fluid: diff fluid, gearbox etc..). Oil filter housing started leaking a bit, I just changed the gasket (1 hour job with the car on Axel stands). I replaced both front drive shafts due to a minor vibration at around 180k on the clock. Absolutely no other issues or repairs, not even an A/C regas/service. This thing gets used 7 days a week. I may come back from work (1 hr drive) and the wife may go to the gym/shopping after. Then all the school/class runs with the child. And holiday drives too.. The engine don't get a chance to cool down during the day most days.. lol..

I'm having a serious issue selecting a new car (it has to be a medium SUV) from what's available in this market (AUS, not SL). I have second fun car (a 3 liter turbo) and a couple of motorbikes, so the daily hack needs to be something to jump in and drive with relatively cheap maintenace. Just don't have time to waste, even if it's getting repaired under warranty.

At the moment, the only rational choice is the RAV4 Hybrid. Not because i am a Toyota fan, but every other medium SUV in the market is having one drawback or another. That's how crazy car engineering has become. Lexus NX 350H is using the same RAV4 platform, so that's also an option, though with a $30k price hike.

I think the car market is going full cycle. Back in the day, the Brits used to make shit cars (Land Rovers that leaked from factory, etc...) but people were used to the issues and kept buying/repairing them. Then the Japs started making superior cars and killed the British car industry. The Americans used to make fantastic cars in the 50's , 60's etc... (most of the innovations in the industry were American, including the intermittent wiper..) Then they dropped the ball by the 90's..

Looks like the Chinese have started to own the electric car market now. Who knows, in a decade or so, thet may produce highly reliable EV's good for a couple of decades with no maintenance. Only issue is software though, software based systems do get outdated pretty quickly (the nature of software).

apo rav4 ek uber duwanaw ne

Hondas with timing chains will run more than 500K; however, Nissans with timing chains, e.g., the QR series, will throw crank sensor errors when they reach 300K. That's why I still like the TD series engines Nissan made.

HR15 engine ek gana moka d hithenne?

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I think you can avoid it with proper maintenance and regular checkups. My car is close to 50K and It had already gone through 2 AC condensor changes and one oil seal replacement. Total damage is close to 400k.

Every vehicle type will have its own set of issues ban. I think you can avoid a lot or be proactive by properly maintaining it.

ade oil seal ekakuth giya d
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[tharakaf]

apo rav4 ek uber duwanaw ne


HR15 engine ek gana moka d hithenne?

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ade oil seal ekakuth giya d
------ Post added on Jan 13, 2025 at 8:15 PM

ඔව්, උන් කියන්නෙ inherent ප්‍රශ්න ටිකක් කියලා. next බලන් ඉන්නෙ තව 25ක් විතර පැදලා timing belt එක මාරු කරලා දාන්න. ඊට කලින් අලුත් එකක් ගන්නත් චාන්ස් එකක් තියෙනව.

 

[Hyaenidae]

ade oil seal ekakuth giya d
------ Post added on Jan 13, 2025 at 8:15 PM

Another inherent issue with the FK6

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ඔව්, උන් කියන්නෙ inherent ප්‍රශ්න ටිකක් කියලා. next බලන් ඉන්නෙ තව 25ක් විතර පැදලා timing belt එක මාරු කරලා දාන්න. ඊට කලින් අලුත් එකක් ගන්නත් චාන්ස් එකක් තියෙනව.

Keep an eye on the oil pressure warning light, even if it blinks once while driving take it in for the belt replacement

Oil pressure loss is a common indicator when the belt is shedding particles off of it and partially blocking the oil pickup. Get the oil pickup checked when you replace the timing belt
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[hrm]

Another inherent issue with the FK6

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Keep an eye on the oil pressure warning light, even if it blinks once while driving take it in for the belt replacement

Oil pressure loss is a common indicator when the belt is shedding particles off of it and partially blocking the oil pickup. Get the oil pickup checked when you replace the timing belt
------ Post added on Jan 13, 2025 at 8:28 PM

What's funny is people saying it's "normal".

 

[Hyaenidae]

What's funny is people saying it's "normal".

I can kinda understand 'cause if it was my CY, I too would call it "normal" and keep fixing it instead of getting rid of the car

Classic case of automotive stockholm syndrome right there

 

[hrm]

I can kinda understand 'cause if it was my CY, I too would call it "normal" and keep fixing it instead of getting rid of the car

Classic case of automotive stockholm syndrome right there

exactly. oil leak was one thing I worried about the Sorento given the complex nature of the engine/turbo and what not. Thankfully it never gave that problem. Last car I had with oil leak was my father's 1994 Nissan Largo.

 

[Hyaenidae]

exactly. oil leak was one thing I worried about the Sorento given the complex nature of the engine/turbo and what not. Thankfully it never gave that problem. Last car I had with oil leak was my father's 1994 Nissan Largo.

Well the CY only needed routine fluid changes in the 10+ years it's been running so there's that 🥹

I did replace the serpentine belt because I bought one before the prices went up and kept the original as backup.

 

[Jack_Sparrow]

scene eka tiyenne lankawe tax ekath ekka value for money tiyenne turbo charged 1.0 3 cylinder tika

 

[nkt]

Another inherent issue with the FK6

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Keep an eye on the oil pressure warning light, even if it blinks once while driving take it in for the belt replacement

Oil pressure loss is a common indicator when the belt is shedding particles off of it and partially blocking the oil pickup. Get the oil pickup checked when you replace the timing belt
------ Post added on Jan 13, 2025 at 8:28 PM

ade thaw ekak ganna salli yanaw ne meka maintain karanna
btw 160k for oil seal change?

 

[Hyaenidae]

scene eka tiyenne lankawe tax ekath ekka value for money tiyenne turbo charged 1.0 3 cylinder tika

The problem with civic FK6 is the wet timing belt I think

The Raize for example with its 996CC Turbo engine appears quite reliable.

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ade thaw ekak ganna salli yanaw ne meka maintain karanna
btw 160k for oil seal change?

Yep it costs a packet to maintain those.
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