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yeah turns out theres only one true religion and i am so sad that i am not a muslim poor me
but
Same bible say this verses also.then is it contradicting?
"My Father is greater than I." [The Bible, John 14:28]
"My Father is greater than all." [The Bible, John 10:29]
"…I cast out devils by the Spirit of God…." [The Bible, Mathew 12:28]
"…I with the finger of God cast out devils…." [The Bible, Luke 11:20]
"I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgement is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me." [The Bible, John 5:30]
and in the same bible it is said
"Jesus Christ, the son of David,....".
[Mathew 1:1]
Gospel of Luke Chapter 3, verse 23
"And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, ....."
[Luke 3:23]
if he accept so,Then do we have to treat even DAVID and JOSEPH also sons of God based on the above verse..
I think you understand very little about the concept of the trinity in Christian theology. According to Christian Theology, the bible refering to God and Jesus as one and separate in differing circumstances is a necessary contradiction beyond human imagination.
P.S: why do I have respond to this, where are the Catholics
well I did mention that earlier about the holy trinity and they don't give a squirt about it. The third element is the Holy spirit which is like you said beyond human imagination. This is what we say when we pray
"in the name of the father in the name of the son in the name of the holy spirit"
and below is a piece of code which we say every sunday morning when the priest asks us to pronounce what we believe
We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth, of all that is seen and unseen.
We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God,
begotten, not made, one in Being with the Father.
Through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation he came down from heaven:
[bow during the next two lines:]
by the power of the Holy Spirit
he was born of the Virgin Mary, and became man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered, died, and was buried.
and I guess we all catholics loudly say "We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God "
Sathis do you even go to sunday mass?
this is the part about the second coming
On the third day he rose again in fulfillment of the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,
and his kingdom will have no end.
We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son he is worshipped and glorified.
He has spoken through the Prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come
On the third day he rose again in fulfillment of the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,
and his kingdom will have no end.
We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son he is worshipped and glorified.
He has spoken through the Prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come
I dont know why almost all non muslim respond with reply beyond human imagination when a question is asked.
see,The Bible does not support the Christian belief in trinity at all. One of the scribes once asked Jesus (pbuh) as to which was the first commandment of all, to which Jesus (pbuh) merely repeated what Moses (pbuh) had said earlier:
"Shama Israelu Adonai Ila Hayno Adonai Ikhad."
This is a Hebrew quotation, which means:
"Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord." [The Bible, Mark 12:29]
It is striking that the basic teachings of the Church such as Trinity and vicarious atonement find no mention in the Bible. In fact, various verses of the Bible point to Jesus’ (pbuh) actual mission, which was to fulfill the law revealed to Prophet Moses (pbuh). Indeed Jesus (pbuh) rejected any suggestions that attributed divinity to him, and explained his miracles as the power of the One True God.
Jesus (pbuh) thus reiterated the message of monotheism that was given by all earlier prophets of Almighty God.
The part of God that is called the Holy Spirit created God's human body inside of a woman named Mary (Matthew 1:20). God went into this human body that grew inside of Mary. The baby was born and grew into a man.
Whats with this pbuh? as I clearly know in Islam you don't have a Jesus christ atleast the Jesus we all talk about
As a man, God experienced the same temptations that we feel (Hebrews 2:18). He suffered the same kind of physical pains that we suffer with. He also experienced emotional pain. He even wept about the city of Jerusalem (John 11:35). He was ignored, unappreciated, unloved, misunderstood, and even despised—even though he did nothing wrong, and always loved everyone (1 Peter 2:23). Not only is Jesus Christ the greatest man that ever lived; he is our Creator. He deserved all glory and honor!
only some we trust out of what you said, I asked from your bible with Quotation numbers why he only Son and not other prophets no one given sensible reply..no point in giving just words..
