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of course all the prophets deserve glory and honour what is spacial in only Jesus??? WHT U MEAN BY JESUS IS OUR CREATOR.just before that it say Greatest man that ever lived..doesnt it refer to a man. if you say just a honor and glorious and great we dont have any problem in accepting. but not son of GOD
looky here
Jesus is not God’s Son in the sense of a human father and a son. God did not get married and have a son. God did not mate with Mary and, together with her, produce a son. Jesus is God’s Son in the sense that He is God made manifest in human form (John 1:1, 14). Jesus is God's Son in that He was conceived in Mary by the Holy Spirit. Luke 1:35 declares, “The angel answered, 'The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.’”
Just simple question for you, u trust all of the prophet right.such as abraham,noa,moses,david etc, here why God only sent jesus as son of holy sprit to teach to humanity.where as other people as only prophets.what is the need for him to do so?
and Jesus Refuted even the Remotest Suggestion of his Divinity
Consider the following incident mentioned in the Bible:
"And behold, one came and said unto him, ‘Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?’
And he said unto him, ‘Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.’ "
[The Bible, Mathew 19:16-17]
Jesus (pbuh) did not say that to have the eternal life of paradise, man should believe in him as Almighty God or worship him as God, or believe that Jesus (pbuh) would die for his sins. On the contrary he said that the path to salvation was through keeping the commandments. It is indeed striking to note the difference between the words of Jesus Christ (pbuh) and the Christian dogma of salvation through the sacrifice of Jesus (pbuh).
Here this might help some people
Pater is father, Filius is son, Spus Scus is holy spirit, est =is, non=not, deus is god
yeah the holy trinity in latin
He sent Jesus because He loves us. “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.” John 3:16.
Everyone wants to be loved. But sometimes, love is given only if it is earned. It wasn’t like that with God. He loved us when we didn’t deserve it. “God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.” Romans 5:8. Some people feel unloved. Where love has been sought ... none was found. However, we don’t have to feel that way. We are loved ... God loves us.
Motivated by love, God sent Jesus to provide the free gift of eternal life. And that eternal life is more than living forever. The Bible makes it clear that everyone will live forever ... no one will be extinguished. What is God’s gift of eternal life? Jesus defined it as, “This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.” John 17:3. His gift of eternal life is a personal relationship with Him ... one that continues into eternity. But if we refuse His gift, we will suffer His wrath, John 3:36 ... and we will be separated from Him forever, 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9.
nothing biggie just the same words we say in english like father son and the holy spirit.
This is post is for everyone
What's the difference between Christianity and Islam?
Similarities
There are many similarities between Christianity and Islam, here are some of the main ones as far as I can tell.
Both say that there is One God.
And that God is sovereign, he rules history.
The existence of Angels is another similarity.
Islam and Christianity both have Prophets and prophecy (Including many of the same characters Adam, Noah, Abraham, David, Jesus).
Both believe in a Heaven and Hell and God's future judgment.
So, what's the difference, given all these things in common? After all, isn't 'Allah' just the Arabic word for 'High God'?
The main differences centre around Jesus.
Differences
Islam and Christianity disagree over Jesus' identity
Although Muslims believe in one God, as do Christians, they reject as heresy that this one God is three persons. For more detail on what Christians believe on this, see the slot we did on this a few weeks ago which is posted on our website. For now, let's suffice to say that Muslims reject the idea of God being three in one. Especially, the Qu'ran (main holy book of Islam) is strong on saying that Jesus isn't God;
'Isa (Jesus) was simply a created human being, and a slave of Allah'
An-Nisa' 4:172
Jesus is given great honour in the Qu-ran, his status as a prophet and as a miracle-worker, even as God's Christ is strongly affirmed. But he's not God. In contrast the Bible is adamant that far from being just a created being, that Jesus is God himself become a human being.
'In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God...The Word became flesh and dwelt among us.'
John 1:1 and 14
Islam and Christianity disagree over Jesus' death
Because Jesus is just a prophet, (albeit a great one) it is unthinkable to the teachings of Islam that a prophet of Allah could die a horrible shameful death like a crucifixion. So the Qu'ran actually goes so far as to claim that Jesus didn't die on the cross, Judas died in his place, God made him to look like Jesus as payback for his wicked betrayal of Jesus and the two were switched at the crucial time.
'...in reality he was not killed or crucified, and those who said he was crucified lied.'
An-Nisa' 4:157
In contrast, the early Christians were willing to stake their honour, face ridicule and shame, by declaring that Jesus was the messiah who was crucified, that he did die a shameful painful public humiliating death. So Paul can even boast that
'...we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to the Jews and folly to Gentiles.'
1 Corinthians 1:23
Because they disagree over these two things there is a third fundamental disagreement between Islam and Christianity.
Islam and Christianity disagree over the way to escape judgment
In Islam, the way someone gains God's approval and escapes his wrath on the final day of judgment is by 'falah', that is a word that means self-effort or positive achievement. Submit to God and follow all of his directives as found in the Qu'ran. Judgment day will involve some kind of weighing up of what we've done wrong and what we've done right. And even then entry into heaven is down to whether or not Allah decides to grant you mercy on the last day. This is diametrically opposed to Christianity. According to the Bible, no-one can ever be good enough to deserve God's favour, to win God's heaven, because from birth we are all pre-disposed to rejecting God and living our lives our own way. That's why it was necessary for God himself to shrink into a human body and die on a cross, dying the death we deserve.
The only way to escape judgment and rejection from God according to the Bible is for God himself to have taken the full force of that judgment for us, which is what Jesus' humiliating death on a cross was all about. What we need according to the Bible is not 'falah' but faith. To have faith in, to trust, to rely on Jesus and his death as our escape route. Those with faith in Jesus now can be sure that in the future God will welcome them into his heaven with wide open arms as if they deserved to be there as much as Jesus himself.
Ultimately then Islam and Christianity present two very different gods who may share some similarities but who have different identities and ultimately different standards. To pretend they are the same is patronising to both Muslims and Christians. Such smoothing over the cracks is also dangerous as it might well prevent people from engaging with the real issues, who is the God who is really there and how can I be in relationship with him?
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What's the difference between Christianity and Islam?
Similarities
There are many similarities between Christianity and Islam, here are some of the main ones as far as I can tell.
Both say that there is One God.
And that God is sovereign, he rules history.
The existence of Angels is another similarity.
Islam and Christianity both have Prophets and prophecy (Including many of the same characters Adam, Noah, Abraham, David, Jesus).
Both believe in a Heaven and Hell and God's future judgment.
So, what's the difference, given all these things in common? After all, isn't 'Allah' just the Arabic word for 'High God'?
The main differences centre around Jesus.
Differences
Islam and Christianity disagree over Jesus' identity
Although Muslims believe in one God, as do Christians, they reject as heresy that this one God is three persons. For more detail on what Christians believe on this, see the slot we did on this a few weeks ago which is posted on our website. For now, let's suffice to say that Muslims reject the idea of God being three in one. Especially, the Qu'ran (main holy book of Islam) is strong on saying that Jesus isn't God;
'Isa (Jesus) was simply a created human being, and a slave of Allah'
An-Nisa' 4:172
Jesus is given great honour in the Qu-ran, his status as a prophet and as a miracle-worker, even as God's Christ is strongly affirmed. But he's not God. In contrast the Bible is adamant that far from being just a created being, that Jesus is God himself become a human being.
'In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God...The Word became flesh and dwelt among us.'
John 1:1 and 14
Islam and Christianity disagree over Jesus' death
Because Jesus is just a prophet, (albeit a great one) it is unthinkable to the teachings of Islam that a prophet of Allah could die a horrible shameful death like a crucifixion. So the Qu'ran actually goes so far as to claim that Jesus didn't die on the cross, Judas died in his place, God made him to look like Jesus as payback for his wicked betrayal of Jesus and the two were switched at the crucial time.
'...in reality he was not killed or crucified, and those who said he was crucified lied.'
An-Nisa' 4:157
In contrast, the early Christians were willing to stake their honour, face ridicule and shame, by declaring that Jesus was the messiah who was crucified, that he did die a shameful painful public humiliating death. So Paul can even boast that
'...we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to the Jews and folly to Gentiles.'
1 Corinthians 1:23
Because they disagree over these two things there is a third fundamental disagreement between Islam and Christianity.
Islam and Christianity disagree over the way to escape judgment
In Islam, the way someone gains God's approval and escapes his wrath on the final day of judgment is by 'falah', that is a word that means self-effort or positive achievement. Submit to God and follow all of his directives as found in the Qu'ran. Judgment day will involve some kind of weighing up of what we've done wrong and what we've done right. And even then entry into heaven is down to whether or not Allah decides to grant you mercy on the last day. This is diametrically opposed to Christianity. According to the Bible, no-one can ever be good enough to deserve God's favour, to win God's heaven, because from birth we are all pre-disposed to rejecting God and living our lives our own way. That's why it was necessary for God himself to shrink into a human body and die on a cross, dying the death we deserve.
The only way to escape judgment and rejection from God according to the Bible is for God himself to have taken the full force of that judgment for us, which is what Jesus' humiliating death on a cross was all about. What we need according to the Bible is not 'falah' but faith. To have faith in, to trust, to rely on Jesus and his death as our escape route. Those with faith in Jesus now can be sure that in the future God will welcome them into his heaven with wide open arms as if they deserved to be there as much as Jesus himself.
Ultimately then Islam and Christianity present two very different gods who may share some similarities but who have different identities and ultimately different standards. To pretend they are the same is patronising to both Muslims and Christians. Such smoothing over the cracks is also dangerous as it might well prevent people from engaging with the real issues, who is the God who is really there and how can I be in relationship with him?
Now you understand I love sirilanka?
navodwickra,
What is the relevant. we were debating on some difference as to which is correct, but what u did is here is u copied & pasted some of the similarity and difference.I know we have similarity as well as difference.we just wanted to talk on difference.
What is the relevant. we were debating on some difference as to which is correct, but what u did is here is u copied & pasted some of the similarity and difference.I know we have similarity as well as difference.we just wanted to talk on difference.
why on earth you want to talk about differences. Two religions Two different sets of rules and thats it. now excatly what are you planning to do about these differences? or you want to convince me that whats in Islam is the ultimate truth? If so I really don't want that I am here to study different religions and thier values not to compare and contrast them or to discuss differences. I posted that earlier one hoping you'll understand that we have differences and we'll never come to the same dicision.
DOES JESUS CHRIST (PBUH) WAS THE SON OF GOD
Concept of Trinity in the Light of Science -- Dr Zakir Naik
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEk3vvLN1sU&feature=related
Ahmad Deedat Explain who is the Holy Spirit
Concept of Trinity in the Light of Science -- Dr Zakir Naik
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEk3vvLN1sU&feature=related
Ahmad Deedat Explain who is the Holy Spirit
Real Wise people never condemn other religion ..... THese days Islam people post lots of article which insults other relilgion
yes
wise people never condemn their religion, we want to understand the truth of real roman catholic that is JESUS is not the GOD he is human like us
if we didn't understand this we cannot pray and get near to ALL MIGHTY GOD
wise people never condemn their religion, we want to understand the truth of real roman catholic that is JESUS is not the GOD he is human like us
if we didn't understand this we cannot pray and get near to ALL MIGHTY GOD
