From where these pirated Movies come from ?

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    We all watch pirated movies, Tv shows , play games , Softwares. but from where these things come from ??:baffled: how this stuff come to our Hard disks so fast ?? :baffled:
    This thread is for someone who interested to know about these thing. So no not for all right:D Please don't blame me saying "what the hell is this ??":baffled: "Can't read this ass article" :oo: or something :dull:

    This thread is all about "scene" :) Guess no1 knows :rofl:


    I'll give a simple idea about scene :) If you've used torrents for download movies or Tv shows, did you notice that some releases are comes with large number of RAR archives ? Like this...

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    These are scene releases...
    Read this thread, sure you'll know what scene is...:yes:





    What is it?


    "The scene" is a concept. It doesn't physically exist. To put it loosely, it is an "organization" or network -- but not in the traditional sense (no headquarters" etc). Although it is co-ordinated (self-regulating).

    There is no one place/site that makes up the scene -- but rather many (perhaps hundreds) that together constitute the scene. It might not even be possible to know the exact number as most sites are extremely secret/exclusive.

    It exists in many different countries and can be accessed from anywhere there is an internet connection.

    In fact, you could even draw a parallel between a home network (or an intranet) and the scene. In this analogy, the scene is equivalent to an ad-hoc network. It is dynamic, constantly changing and re-arranging.



    What does it do?


    The scene exists, quite simply, to distribute files amongst people with access to it. Anything from movies, music, software programs, games, books -- all digital media -- can be found somewhere within the scene -- somewhere on the "network".


    How is it Organized?


    The Ruleset

    The scene is organized by a set of rules that are created and agreed upon by its members. These rules pertain to what files can be "released" (put on the scene network). They are very specific and all files must adhere to their
    own set of rules (Meaning, DVDRip/TVRips/HDRips etc. all have their own set of rules that must be obeyed in order for the scene to recognize the release).

    These rules control things such as file naming conventions, file sizes, quality etc. This is the regulation that ensures that anything released into the scene meets a minimum standard of quality.

    Ever wonder why many XViD movies come in sizes of 700megs? Why an hour long TV show is usually around 350MB? Why 720p releases are around 4.7Gigs? These are the scene rules in action. Where do the naming conventions such as TS,TC,CAM,Screener,HDTV,PDTV,DSR etc. come from? Again, scene rules.

    The rules are updated periodically and signed by various groups (Usually very influential groups determine the rules and sign them -- forcing any smaller group to have to adhere to the rules). The rules aren't always agreed upon by every member, but once they're established, there is nothing you can do to change them except request a revision.

    Any file that doesn't meet the rules is removed or "nuked", usually with a reason given. A nuke looks bad on the group that released the file and is instantly known throughout the scene (through the communication channels -- more on that later). This is incentive enough for groups to try their best to ensure their releases follow the rules -- a difficult task for groups that race! (More on that later too).


    Who makes up the scene ?

    The scene is made up of individuals or groups that have access to it. Traditionally, in order to have access (or "axx") to the scene, you have to have something to offer to it. Meaning if you can give to the community, you can have access to it. This is done to keep "leechers" out of the scene and ensure that what has been released to the scene remains within the scene. This isn't always the case however, as I will explain later.

    The group that has made a release to the scene can be found at the end of the name of the release (in the format: -GROUPNAME). For instance, take this scene release:

    House.S05E19.720p.HDTV.X264-DIMENSION

    This is a release of the popular TV show House (Season 5 Episode 19) that was captured at a resolution of 720p from an HDTV source. It is encoded with X264 and was released by the group DIMENSION (one of my favourites).

    DIMENSION is a scene group. They release primarily TV shows and obey the Scene X264 TV standards. Here is a little info on them (current as of version 1.0 of this guide):

    [GROUP STATS] [ DIMENSION ] [ Good Releases: 1558/1562 ] [ Nuked: 4 [0.0%] ] [ UnNuked: 3 [0.0%] ]
    [FIRST PRE] [ Tragically_Hip-Vaccination_Scar-CDS-2004-DiMENSiON ] [ MP3 ] [ Released 4y 355d 7h 44m 57s ago [4/10/2004] ] [ 8.0MB in 2F ]
    [LAST PRE] [ Saving.Grace.S02E12.720p.HDTV.X264-DIMENSION ] [ TV ] [ Released 1h 42m 15s ago [3/30/2009] ] [ 1147.0MB in 28F ]

    The number of people that make up the group DIMENSION is unknown and certainly very secret. It has probably changed over the last 5 years that the group has been active multiple times, but nobody can know for sure except those people close to the group.


    How do files get onto the scene?

    When a group has a file, or release, they want to put out to the scene, they "PRE" it. This means that they have uploaded their file to a topsite on the scene network and it has been announced to all members of the scene. These PREs could be thought of as "global" (within the scene) messages that a certain release is available out on the scene on one of the "Topsites".

    So, when a group has a release, they put it on a Topsite and announce it to the scene. The file quickly propagates throughout the scene network.

    A side note of a definition, a Topsite is a server located somewhere in the world that has an extremely fast connection (Usually a minimum of 1Gbps, but most certainly faster) and an extremely large memory bank (Minimum 30+
    Terabytes).

    Topsites are interconnected (many different ways) so that files can propagate extremely quickly from one topsite to the next depending on what has been set up to be transferred (Meaning, an english topsite isn't likely to request and acquire Dutch language releases).

    Files are usually transferred by the FXP protocol (like a server to server FTP transaction) which is extremely quick. That way, a 350Mb release can reach multiple sites within a matter of seconds.


    How do I get access to the scene?

    Simply put, you don't. Not just anybody can get access. It's this exclusivity that ensures that the scene remains secret and allows it to elude detection. If you had something the scene wanted or something to offer the scene, you'd already be there. It's all about who you know and what you know

    This way, leechers (people who just wish to take and not give back) are kept out.



    What is P2P?

    P2P actually stands for Peer to Peer protocol, but can have many different definitions. In this case P2P refers to anything non-scene. Meaning, bit-torrent trackers, DC++ networks...etc..etc...

    P2P is what the everyday user has access to and is usually (as with the Bit Torrent protocol) peer to peer (meaning you share). All private trackers as well as public trackers are P2P sites. The scene never distributes anything using the bit torrent protocol.




    So how do releases get to P2P sites?

    P2P sites have their own hierarchy which will not be discussed here. Scene releases reach the general public by being leaked. Meaning, somebody who has Scene Axx lets it out. This is how piracy propagates throughout the internet and down the "food chain" so to speak. Most scene members hate this fact. They do not always want their releases available to the general public. Why? Because that increases their probability of being caught.

    Sceners risk a lot by releasing files. Their mentality is that they only want others who also put something on the line to have access to their files. The more available the release is, the more likely it is to fall into the hands of the law enforcers.

    (Scener meaning a person or group that releases to the scene)

    This is why the scene hates P2P (And also answers the other thread I started...although that is a more in depth look of this commonly accepted reasoning).



    But wait, why would a scene member release to the general public?


    They wouldn't -- necessarily. It's impossible to speak for every scener out there, but for the majority, they don't.

    Not everybody who has scene axx is a scener. People who run Topsites have to pay a lot for them and often times sell access to them. This access is for downstream (leeching) only, so people with this form of scene axx are basically leechers. Bandwidth is sold in chunks. You are given an account at a single topsite that allows you to transfer so many gigabytes of files. Again, you have to pay for this ability because you don't have anything to offer the scene

    This is how files get from the scene to your hard drive.


    This list is for people to know which are P2P release groups as well as scene release groups.





    P2P Release Groups

    aXXo
    CtrlHD
    DEViSE
    DON
    D-ZON3
    ESiR
    EuReKA
    FLAWL3SS
    FOM
    GRiM
    iAPULA
    iLL
    JamBo
    KingBen
    LTRG
    LTT
    Lynks
    Prodji
    STG
    Stuffies
    TD
    TDM
    TFE
    THS
    TLF
    VamPTV
    ViEW
    Vision
    VoX
    vRs








    AFR Groups

    arcon
    BadBoy
    BDK
    C00lduDE
    [crb]
    DeathHilarious
    DK
    ellroy
    [fb]
    FoReVeR
    FtS
    [fuEgo]
    GoRDo
    [gx]
    iAMi
    Infect
    MaZ
    Os iLUMiNADOS
    pITo
    Rogue
    rulle
    ScrJ
    ShitBusters
    Shoo
    snyder
    STR
    sz
    ThEdEaDLiVe
    UncleIstvan
    UnSeeN
    Vae_Victis
    WaRLoRD









    Scene Release Groups

    20TH
    aAF
    AEN
    AEROHOLiCS
    AFO
    ALLiANCE
    AMIABLE
    AMRCMPG
    ANXIETY
    APOCALYPSE
    AR
    ARCHIVED
    ARIGOLD
    ARROW
    AsiSter
    AXIAL
    BaLD
    BestDivX
    BiFOS
    Blur
    BNU
    BORAT
    BountyHunters
    BOW
    BRASTEMP
    BrG
    BULLDOZER
    BURGER
    C4DVD
    CAMELOT
    CAMERA
    Cartier
    CarVeR
    CDDHD
    CETUS
    CFE
    CG
    CHAKRA
    CiNEFiLE
    CiRCLE
    CME
    COALITION
    COCAiN
    COWRY
    CULT
    CuriousJotos
    D0PE
    D2HVDV
    DEITY
    DFA
    DIMENSION
    DHI
    DiAMOND
    DigitalVideo
    DMT
    DNA
    DnB
    DOCUMENT
    DOMiNO
    DON
    DoNE
    DPIMP
    DREAMLIGHT
    DvF
    DVL
    ELIA
    EMERALD
    Endless
    EONDVD
    ESPiSE
    ETH0 (quit The Scene in May 2008 after insecure member acquisitions)
    EWDP
    EXPDVD
    EXVID
    FAN
    FEAR
    FiCO
    FINALE
    FIXRUS
    FKKDVDR
    FLAiTE
    Fountain
    FRAGMENT
    FUA
    FxM
    FZERO
    GAYGAY
    GENUINE
    HACO
    HAFVCD
    HANGOVER
    HEFTY
    HEMMABiO
    HLS
    HNR
    HOLDEM
    HOOKAH
    IFN
    iKA
    ILG
    ILS
    iMBT
    iMMORTALS
    iNCiTE
    InD
    INSECTS
    INTIMID
    JACKAL
    JAG
    JBW
    JFKDVD
    JFKXVID
    JUST
    KT
    KYR
    LAJ
    Larceny
    LINE
    LiPSYNC
    LMG
    LPD
    LRC
    LUSO
    MADE
    MDP
    MEDDY
    MEDIAMANIACS
    MESS
    MeTHOD
    MHQ
    MISFITS
    MOA
    MOH
    MONG
    MPTDVD
    mVs
    NDN
    NeDiVx
    NEPTUNE
    NiF
    NITRO
    nnDVD
    NODLABS
    NoneStop
    NOSCR
    NTi
    NTX
    NTXViD
    Numb
    OBSESSION
    OMiCRON
    OPTIC
    OPTIONS
    ORIGINAL
    PaTHe
    PFa
    POSTX
    PREVAiL
    PREVIEW
    Profile
    PROMiSE
    PUKKA
    PVR
    QiM
    QIX
    QuidaM
    RaDiuS
    RAGEDVD
    REACTOR
    REiGATE
    REPLICA
    RESERVED
    Rets
    REWIND
    RHyTM
    RITALIN
    RiVERDVD
    RUBY
    RUINS
    RUSTLE
    SAPHiRE
    SATIVA
    SCREAM
    SER
    SFN
    SiNK
    SiNNERS
    SiRiUS
    SLAPI
    SSB
    SSF
    SUBTITLES
    SUNSPOT
    SWE6RUS
    TBB
    TDL
    TEXIO
    TGP
    THC
    THEBATMAN
    TheCrown
    THEWRETCHED
    THS
    TiFF
    TMOD
    TNAN
    TNS
    TRADINGSTANDARDS
    TRG
    TWCSIO
    TWiST
    uFoolz
    UnDead
    UNiVERSAL
    VH-PROD
    ViTE
    VoMiT
    WAGNER
    WILDER
    WIRA
    WIVX
    WPi
    WRD
    XanaX
    XmX
    XPRESS
    XSCR
    XSTREEM
    YesTV
    YSPDVD
    ZEN
    ZN








    Yeah i know didn't got anything :D then read again or ask what you can't understand....
    If you got any idea you'll never go for Fake movie releases again :)
    And if you know something about scene or interested about these stuff comment here...;)
    Tnx for reading...:P





    Grab infoz from lot of places that enable to mention URLs here
     

    earthling

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    aXXo is not a release Group..he is just one person & he doesnt follow any scene rules or doesn't belong to the scene..

    but good info
     

    Zeus

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    Kalutara
    Great work bro
    I was getting confused when you were talking bout scenes in EK chats
    Now I have a rough Idea
    But need a 2nd reading :D
     

    ¤--bACarDi--¤

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    got some idea

    what's mean by AFR Group:confused:

    aXXo group or individual?

    is aXXo active currently in torrent sites?

    AFR stands for Advanced Filesize Regulation.
    Really i don't know much about AFR :baffled: Got something from the web. They are specialized for BDRips AFAIK :yes:

    "Always a certain number of AFR encodes exactly fit on a DVD5. The same idea as fixed file sizes for TV releases of the scene. only it's encoded in a different way."


    aXXo is a single person & he release Rips for P2P.
    his mininova account is idle. http://www.mininova.org/user/aXXo
    but some changes happened there. Guess its hacked :(
     

    ¤--bACarDi--¤

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    Great work bro
    I was getting confused when you were talking bout scenes in EK chats
    Now I have a rough Idea
    But need a 2nd reading :D

    oh you didn't :rofl::rofl: lolz... why didn't you ask then ? :oo::nerd:
    OK read again :) I read 3 times for understand some parts :rofl::nerd:

    I made this thread for ppl who get fucked with Fake releases. Now they can get some idea about piracy food chain & google is our friend. Everyone can find out more info about scene...:yes: