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uguduwa said:
no and yes man, yes for the fact that all the animals have lives and we should respect their right to live. (watch ur spellings buddy)
No for the latter part, think economically, if a community rejects eating flesh would someone kill for them, you make the demand for meat individually because you have the desire to taste flesh, individual desire makes a one huge demand, so as long as u have that desire you have your contribution to kill animals.
Typed it with IE 6.No spelling checks.Now typing in Firefox.

Do you know that Lord Buddha ate " SukaraMadhavaya" i think you know already it is flesh from a animal ,when Buddhas life time is ending to cure his disease.

Desire to eat does not mean desire to kill.Anyway you like to eat vegetables.But you know farmers spray insecticides to protect their fields.So are you willing to kill insects?
 
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    sri_lion said:
    And you are going in circles now, this question already answered... if tomorrow I cannot find MEAT in the supermarket I have no problem being a veggie, its not like I'm gonna go to the forest to KILL one BULL for me! :lol:
    So where's the same concern for the insects and other animals killed to make those veggies ? Where's the forums threads to stop that ? or you dont see anything wrong happening there to voice your opinion is it ? No value on the lives lost there is it ?

    sri_lion said:
    What you need to understand my friend is the difference of Killing and Eating! I may eat.. but the KILLER has a mind of his own... its not my problem that he got greedy for money or whatever and killed, he always has an option not to kill!
    Let that be his problem. Let him believe his religion and let him practice it.

    sri_lion said:
    If possible take sometime and go through those threads... there are lot of answers given by other members too... and not only you, even Buddhists have debated over this issue..
    I'm fully well aware of Buddhist stand point on the issues of killing and of eating meat. That is not questioned (at least not by me). But I'm also aware of the other religions stand on this and respect that too but most Buddhists here cant seem to do that. The Lord Buddha himself said to respect other religions yet that is not being followed much here is it ? THAT is my point here.

    sri_lion said:
    Anyway I'm off for now, its 12.03a.m here!! ARIOS!!
    Good night. We'll take this up tomorrow then.
     

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    uguduwa said:
    Can any of you muslims explain me why do they cut someone's neck with a small knife while Allah prayers are being sung at the background? Bin laden says the Holy War has begun, holy war against whom? Explain 911 attack, explain why Bamian Buddha statues were destroyed?Explain me the recent incident that took place at Kuuragala? Yoohoo the person talking about making this a club to bash Muslim religion, explain me why do you invade Buddhist places then? when we talk abt our rights, being the dominant nation you guys cry against that, but when you do things undercover even our sinhalese people dont know that.

    I suppose that means me ? I'm not a muslim so I cant explain the rituals of islam. However Islamic leaders have condemned what Bin Laden and his bunch of lunatics are doing so you cannot take Bin Laden bunch and their actions and call it Islam.
    If that is Islam then "Devadatha" practiced Buddhism. That's the kind of comparison you're making.
     

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    Islam growing fast because Muslims breed like Rabbits and they consist of some of the most highly populated nations in the world like PAKISTAN, INDONESIA etc!:lol:

    Buddhism is PRACTICAL too.. the only thing is there's no GOD to be afraid of :lol: EATING MEAT and killing being cannot be called practical, and practical does not necessarily mean that is it CORRECT too!

    Can I ask you a question! (I've asked this before too but sadly no one has given an answer) IF ALLAH created EARTH like you said... how come the TSUNAMI happened? As we all know now that the TSUNAMI happened because of a fault of the EARTH'S PLATES.. so how come ALLAH create such a mistake that KILLED MORE MUSLIMS than any other?

    So if ALLAH can do such mistakes.. can he be a GOD or is it that ALLAH knew this would happen bt he created it that way.. anyway!!!??? :dull: Which one is it?



    Refer to reply #189, thank you!

    The rest of you post is PURE BS! SORRY! :lol:
    Buddhism is PRACTICAL too.. the only thing is there's no GOD
    If you dont have a GOD, Why your ppl say "Ane Deyyane" or "Oh God" :)

    You can't take away or its dificult to remove the concept of god from ppl. because it is built on to the men. men has been created to blive him. thats y when a distatser occour you all say "Ane Deyyane" or looking at the sky saying oh god! when you get a good news you say "Tahank God" or "Thank God" buy looking at the sky. i see almost all the budihist blelive in god :baffled: . even big ppl like jayasuria looking at sky after hitting a 50 or 100. :baffled: :no:

    ok, now come to the Tsunamy point. All those who read this pls note, i am explaining this tsunami question asked by the brother from the point of islam since i belive islam is for whole mankind which the only accptable way by the god from the time Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) was sent to the man kind as his messanger after THE Prophet Jesus (sun of mary) (pbuh).

    IF ALLAH created EARTH like you said... how come the TSUNAMI happened?
    Allah the one who created the heven and earth state in his book
    "And fear Allah; Surely Allah is Severe in punishment." - al-qraan

    Why he want to punish? simple, the ppl ignore his warning and his guidence though his book and they doing sine.

    The Holy Koran says that if humans don’t listen to Allah they will be punished.

    now you me and all ek friends agree, that sea area of any country is the most sine is taking place.

    Child sex, Night Clubs, men and women togeather in 98% naked. Drinking alcohol, Ganja and Kudu and may be all kind of sine take place in this sea areas. one main reason for this is toruism. allah has clearly stated that this acts (Child sex, men and women togeather in 98% naked. Drinking alcohol) are hated sincs and be away from doing this. So clearly ppl ignoring the gods warning and as he stated "And fear Allah; Surely Allah is Severe in punishment.", he just did that !
    May be indonesia is badly hit becasue, they no the truth well and ignored. So more punishment when you do sine that you no it is.

    Could any one manage to stop his punishemnt when we have so much in technology? no. That show his super power and it proves that a super power is exist and he control every thing in the univers.

    we all know now that the TSUNAMI happened because of a fault of the EARTH'S PLATES.
    Yes, it is right to say that volcanoes, quakes, tsunamis, floods, hurricanes and other catastrophes are caused by certain topographic or geologic factors (causes), but what about the Causer? Why did the Causer cause this or that catastrophe? Why does a same catastrophe repeatedly happen in a same place? Why do they rarely take place in certain places such as Arabia, for example?

    So answer me
    As we all know now that the TSUNAMI happened because of a fault of the EARTH'S PLATES..

    Fault in EATH PALATE??????? who created the earth palates?????????

    The Quran, the Muslim's Holy Book, provides answers to these questions and addresses such disasters from different angles which are never approached by almost all classes of people mentioned above when commenting on such disasters in the media (regrettably, including Muslims).

    The Noble Quran conveys to people the messages and points of wisdom behind the different disasters that Allaah Almighty inflicts upon people throughout human history. Volcanoes, hurricanes, earthquakes, tsunamis, etc, according to the Quran, are soldiers sent by Allaah Almighty to carry out one of the following duties (to mention only some of them):

    1- Punishing sinful people:

    This is applicable to the people of old who rejected the Divine message brought to them by Prophets Nooh (Noah), Luut (Lot), Moosa (Moses), and other Prophets. The Quran states (what means): "So We (i.e. Allaah Almighty) punished each (of them- sinful people) for his sins; of them were some on whom We sent a violent wind with shower of stones [as on the people of Lût (Lot)], and of them were some who were overtaken by an awful cry [by Angel Jibreel (Gabriel) as a torment], and of them were some whom We caused the earth to swallow [as Qaaroon (Korah)], and of them were some whom We drowned [as the people of Nooh (Noah), or Fir‘awn (Pharaoh) and his people]. It was not Allaah Who wronged them, but it was they who wronged themselves." [Quran 29:40]

    Let us consider the places where those disastrous events take place; are there not sinful practices in public, especially on seashores and in tourist resorts?

    1- To remind people of the Hereafter so as to be heedful:

    Allaah Almighty says in the Quran (what means):

    "And We sent not the signs (volcanoes, hurricanes, earthquakes, tsunamis, etc,) except to (warn people and) make them afraid (of destruction)." [Quran 17:59]

    2- To show Allaah's Omnipotence and Supremacy:

    This is stated in the following Quranic verse (which means): "Say (O Muhammad): "He (Allaah) has power to send torment on you from above (heavy devastating rain, winds, thunderbolts, etc.) or from under your feet (volcanoes, earthquakes, etc.), or to cover you with confusion in party strife, and make you to taste the violence of one another." See how variously We explain the signs, so that they may understand." [Quran 6:65]

    And the verse (which means): "So their Lord destroyed them because of their sin, and made them equal in destruction (i.e. all grades of people, rich and poor, strong and weak)! And He (Allaah) feared not the consequences thereof." [Quran 91:14, 15]

    themselves and to act as alarm systems for their masters (human beings)!

    3- To test the believers:

    Allaah, the Exalted, may also inflict some hardships on His worshippers to test their faith and patience, purify their souls and forgive their sins. He, the Almighty, says in the Noble Quran (what means):

    "… and certainly, We shall test you with something of fear, hunger, loss of wealth, lives and fruits, but give glad tidings to the patient" [Quran 2:155].


    To conclude, people, believers and non-believers, have to keep in mind that all the above mentioned 'natural' disasters are acts of Allaah Almighty, the Creator, not 'Mother Nature', to convey a message to people. When Muslims discuss such matters, they have to approach them Islamicly, i.e. in the light of the Holy Quran and the Sunnah (Prophet's tradition), and not only scientifically, economically, or socially.


    :)
     
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    Typed it with IE 6.No spelling checks.Now typing in Firefox.

    Do you know that Lord Buddha ate " SukaraMadhavaya" i think you know already it is flesh from a animal ,when Buddhas life time is ending to cure his disease.

    Desire to eat does not mean desire to kill.Anyway you like to eat vegetables.But you know farmers spray insecticides to protect their fields.So are you willing to kill insects?

    suukaramaddawaya heduwe sukarapalakayek bawa etta, namuth e pilibada wiwida matha thiyanawa, eka hathu wargayak kiyalath kiyanawa, othanadi api buddhimathwa hithala beluwoth jeewitha kalayak awinsawa padanam karagatta dharmayak deshana karala anantha kalayak paramee purala budu unu uttamayek mas aharayata ganiy kiyala hithanna behe, hebey budun mas kema thahanam kaleth nehe, eke adahasa eka anumatha kala kiyana ekath nemeyi, mokada sasara purudu puhunu karagena ena widiyata api athara inna samaharu masata godak lol,athma gananak mansha ba=hakshaka saththu widiyata upatha labapu aya minissu unamath e gathima follow karanawa, anika budu radunge kaleth sathwa palanaya keruna, masata sathun ethi kala, dheewara karmanthya thibuna, buduwarayek arya margayata ganne e sadaha awashya sansarika pasubimak buddhiyak thiyana aya witharay, meke theruma api sathwa gathanayata ida diya yuthyi kiyana eka neme.
     

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    kufa said:
    If you dont have a GOD, Why your ppl say "Ane Deyyane" or "Oh God" :)

    You can't take away or its dificult to remove the concept of god from ppl. because it is built on to the men. men has been created to blive him. thats y when a distatser occour you all say "Ane Deyyane" or looking at the sky saying oh god! when you get a good news you say "Tahank God" or "Thank God" buy looking at the sky. i see almost all the budihist blelive in god :baffled: . even big ppl like jayasuria looking at sky after hitting a 50 or 100. :baffled: :no:

    ok, now come to the Tsunamy point. All those who read this pls note, i am explaining this tsunami question asked by the brother from the point of islam since i belive islam is for whole mankind which the only accptable way by the god from the time Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) was sent to the man kind as his messanger after THE Prophet Jesus (sun of mary) (pbuh).


    Allah the one who created the heven and earth state in his book
    "And fear Allah; Surely Allah is Severe in punishment." - al-qraan

    Why he want to punish? simple, the ppl ignore his warning and his guidence though his book and they doing sine.

    The Holy Koran says that if humans don’t listen to Allah they will be punished.

    now you me and all ek friends agree, that sea area of any country is the most sine is taking place.

    Child sex, men and women togeather in 98% naked. Drinking alcohol, Ganja and Kudu and may be all kind of sine take place in this sea areas. one main reason for this is toruism. allah has clearly stated that this acts (Child sex, men and women togeather in 98% naked. Drinking alcohol) are hated sincs and be away from doing this. So clearly ppl ignoring the gods warning and as he stated "And fear Allah; Surely Allah is Severe in punishment.", he just did that !
    May be indonesia is badly hit becasue, they no the truth well and ignored. So more punishment when you do sine that you no it is.

    Could any one manage to stop his punishemnt when we have so much in technology? no. That show his super power and it proves that a super power is exist and he control every thing in the univers.


    Yes, it is right to say that volcanoes, quakes, tsunamis, floods, hurricanes and other catastrophes are caused by certain topographic or geologic factors (causes), but what about the Causer? Why did the Causer cause this or that catastrophe? Why does a same catastrophe repeatedly happen in a same place? Why do they rarely take place in certain places such as Arabia, for example?

    The Quran, the Muslim's Holy Book, provides answers to these questions and addresses such disasters from different angles which are never approached by almost all classes of people mentioned above when commenting on such disasters in the media (regrettably, including Muslims).

    The Noble Quran conveys to people the messages and points of wisdom behind the different disasters that Allaah Almighty inflicts upon people throughout human history. Volcanoes, hurricanes, earthquakes, tsunamis, etc, according to the Quran, are soldiers sent by Allaah Almighty to carry out one of the following duties (to mention only some of them):

    1- Punishing sinful people:

    This is applicable to the people of old who rejected the Divine message brought to them by Prophets Nooh (Noah), Luut (Lot), Moosa (Moses), and other Prophets. The Quran states (what means): "So We (i.e. Allaah Almighty) punished each (of them- sinful people) for his sins; of them were some on whom We sent a violent wind with shower of stones [as on the people of Lût (Lot)], and of them were some who were overtaken by an awful cry [by Angel Jibreel (Gabriel) as a torment], and of them were some whom We caused the earth to swallow [as Qaaroon (Korah)], and of them were some whom We drowned [as the people of Nooh (Noah), or Fir‘awn (Pharaoh) and his people]. It was not Allaah Who wronged them, but it was they who wronged themselves." [Quran 29:40]

    Let us consider the places where those disastrous events take place; are there not sinful practices in public, especially on seashores and in tourist resorts?

    1- To remind people of the Hereafter so as to be heedful:

    Allaah Almighty says in the Quran (what means):

    "And We sent not the signs (volcanoes, hurricanes, earthquakes, tsunamis, etc,) except to (warn people and) make them afraid (of destruction)." [Quran 17:59]

    2- To show Allaah's Omnipotence and Supremacy:

    This is stated in the following Quranic verse (which means): "Say (O Muhammad): "He (Allaah) has power to send torment on you from above (heavy devastating rain, winds, thunderbolts, etc.) or from under your feet (volcanoes, earthquakes, etc.), or to cover you with confusion in party strife, and make you to taste the violence of one another." See how variously We explain the signs, so that they may understand." [Quran 6:65]

    And the verse (which means): "So their Lord destroyed them because of their sin, and made them equal in destruction (i.e. all grades of people, rich and poor, strong and weak)! And He (Allaah) feared not the consequences thereof." [Quran 91:14, 15]

    themselves and to act as alarm systems for their masters (human beings)!

    3- To test the believers:

    Allaah, the Exalted, may also inflict some hardships on His worshippers to test their faith and patience, purify their souls and forgive their sins. He, the Almighty, says in the Noble Quran (what means):

    "… and certainly, We shall test you with something of fear, hunger, loss of wealth, lives and fruits, but give glad tidings to the patient" [Quran 2:155].


    To conclude, people, believers and non-believers, have to keep in mind that all the above mentioned 'natural' disasters are acts of Allaah Almighty, the Creator, not 'Mother Nature', to convey a message to people. When Muslims discuss such matters, they have to approach them Islamicly, i.e. in the light of the Holy Quran and the Sunnah (Prophet's tradition), and not only scientifically, economically, or socially.


    :)

    this is BS !:lol:
     

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    uguduwa said:
    suukaramaddawaya heduwe sukarapalakayek bawa etta, namuth e pilibada wiwida matha thiyanawa, eka hathu wargayak kiyalath kiyanawa, othanadi api buddhimathwa hithala beluwoth jeewitha kalayak awinsawa padanam karagatta dharmayak deshana karala anantha kalayak paramee purala budu unu uttamayek mas aharayata ganiy kiyala hithanna behe, hebey budun mas kema thahanam kaleth nehe, eke adahasa eka anumatha kala kiyana ekath nemeyi, mokada sasara purudu puhunu karagena ena widiyata api athara inna samaharu masata godak lol,athma gananak mansha ba=hakshaka saththu widiyata upatha labapu aya minissu unamath e gathima follow karanawa, anika budu radunge kaleth sathwa palanaya keruna, masata sathun ethi kala, dheewara karmanthya thibuna, buduwarayek arya margayata ganne e sadaha awashya sansarika pasubimak buddhiyak thiyana aya witharay, meke theruma api sathwa gathanayata ida diya yuthyi kiyana eka neme.
    oya ge karunu pahedila keerame samahara thean wearadiy
    pls read this treadhttp://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=122793&page=8
     

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    kufa said:
    If you dont have a GOD, Why your ppl say "Ane Deyyane" or "Oh God" :)

    You can't take away or its dificult to remove the concept of god from ppl. because it is built on to the men. men has been created to blive him. thats y when a distatser occour you all say "Ane Deyyane" or looking at the sky saying oh god! when you get a good news you say "Tahank God" or "Thank God" buy looking at the sky. i see almost all the budihist blelive in god :baffled: . even big ppl like jayasuria looking at sky after hitting a 50 or 100. :baffled: :no:

    ok, now come to the Tsunamy point. All those who read this pls note, i am explaining this tsunami question asked by the brother from the point of islam since i belive islam is for whole mankind which the only accptable way by the god from the time Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) was sent to the man kind as his messanger after THE Prophet Jesus (sun of mary) (pbuh).


    Allah the one who created the heven and earth state in his book
    "And fear Allah; Surely Allah is Severe in punishment." - al-qraan

    Why he want to punish? simple, the ppl ignore his warning and his guidence though his book and they doing sine.

    The Holy Koran says that if humans don’t listen to Allah they will be punished.

    now you me and all ek friends agree, that sea area of any country is the most sine is taking place.

    Child sex, men and women togeather in 98% naked. Drinking alcohol, Ganja and Kudu and may be all kind of sine take place in this sea areas. one main reason for this is toruism. allah has clearly stated that this acts (Child sex, men and women togeather in 98% naked. Drinking alcohol) are hated sincs and be away from doing this. So clearly ppl ignoring the gods warning and as he stated "And fear Allah; Surely Allah is Severe in punishment.", he just did that !
    May be indonesia is badly hit becasue, they no the truth well and ignored. So more punishment when you do sine that you no it is.

    Could any one manage to stop his punishemnt when we have so much in technology? no. That show his super power and it proves that a super power is exist and he control every thing in the univers.


    Yes, it is right to say that volcanoes, quakes, tsunamis, floods, hurricanes and other catastrophes are caused by certain topographic or geologic factors (causes), but what about the Causer? Why did the Causer cause this or that catastrophe? Why does a same catastrophe repeatedly happen in a same place? Why do they rarely take place in certain places such as Arabia, for example?

    The Quran, the Muslim's Holy Book, provides answers to these questions and addresses such disasters from different angles which are never approached by almost all classes of people mentioned above when commenting on such disasters in the media (regrettably, including Muslims).

    The Noble Quran conveys to people the messages and points of wisdom behind the different disasters that Allaah Almighty inflicts upon people throughout human history. Volcanoes, hurricanes, earthquakes, tsunamis, etc, according to the Quran, are soldiers sent by Allaah Almighty to carry out one of the following duties (to mention only some of them):

    1- Punishing sinful people:...............



    :)

    kauda kivve deaviyo nea kiyala??:P :P :lol: :rofl:

    anith tika passe balannam
     

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    srisinghe said:
    I would like to know da reason that these buggers not eating PIGS.......
    Both the bible and the koran states the type of animals one is allowed to eat and the type of animals one is not allowed to eat. Pigs fall in to the category that one is not allowed to eat.

    However there are some Muslims who does eat pork :lol:
     

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    kauda kivve deaviyo nea kiyala??:P :P :lol: :rofl:

    anith tika passe balannam
    Somahamuduru kiwwe :)
    sri_lion ut kivva, ekai answer kare,

    firt you gusy sorted out weather there is a god exist or not. then read my post.
     
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    kosandpol said:
    Both the bible and the koran states the type of animals one is allowed to eat and the type of animals one is not allowed to eat. Pigs fall in to the category that one is not allowed to eat.

    However there are some Muslims who does eat pork :lol:

    umba sinhalada kalawamb]da banz? uba mara ellillakne allanne?muslim baduwak wath daganada inne?:baffled::baffled:
     

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    kufa said:
    Somahamuduru kiwwe :)
    Gods are defined in a different way in Buddhism. In Buddhism they are not omnipotent deities as those described in other religions.
    So what Soma Thera probably said was that it is useless to expect these gods to save your ass. You are in control of your life so you must save yourself.
     

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    kufa said:
    Somahamuduru kiwwe :)
    sri_lion ut kivva, ekai answer kare,

    firt you gusy sorted out weather there is a god exist or not. then read my post.
    oya wearadhiyata watahageana thiyenne. loka palaka sarva baladari deviyek ne,eth ona tharam deviyo innawa,oonama keanekuta deviyek hoo devya anganavak venna puluwan