HSDPA Is it really that bad ?? - Read on.

fallenzeraphine

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    I have seen a lot of discussion here on EK and also on other Sri lankan Discussion boards about HSDPA, and how Bad it really is, But the thing is most of them Dont even know what HSDPA really is, Im not saying that Dialog and Mobitel are doing a Honest job advertising the Packages either, for example They advertise the E220 Modems theoritical maximum speed as the real speed of the packge (Dialog unlimited broadband 7.2Mbps) that is definitely wrong. But i think anyone who wish to get one of these packages should resarch about them first and then consider purchaisng it, that way you will know if HSDPA will work for you or not, I will give you some pointers and misunderstandings that surrounds HSDPA here.

    1. what does HSDPA mean ? : It means High Speed Downlink Packet Access, That means HSDPA only effects the download speed, now i have seen lot of people are shouting that HSDPA Upload speeds are so slow and what not, they simply dont know the facts, Your HSDPA modem doesnt use HSDPA to Upload data, It either uses EDGE or GPRS to do the job its simple as that, because HSDPA is a protocol for high speed downloading. There is another Protocol in development called HSUPA (High Speed Uplink Packet Access) only when that protocol is implemented on these networks should you be able to Upload at High speed.

    2. How a HSDPA modem works : HSDPA modem is capable of using WCDMA, EDGE and GPRS to connect you to the world, it automatically selects the strongest signal to achive this, however you can limit it only to use WCDMA and this will eliminate the modem from connecting to slower networks. you have to understand that even the lowest WCDMA signal strengths can give you fairly high download speeds (Definitely more than the SLT ADSL 512Kbps) heres proof. and when @ full strength dont expect it to download @ 7.2Mbps either it limits depends on the how crowded is the access point and Signal to noise ratio. I have tested my connection @ excell world it downloads at 6Mbps now thats awesome.

    Proof that HSDPA works @ acceptable speeds even with a very weak signal

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    Improving HSDPA signal strength

    You can do several simple things to improve the signals, the most simple one is to use the Y shaped 1m USB cable that comes with the modem, connect both ends to two usb Ports and this will give the modem more amps, plus the outer sheild of the USB cable acts as a Antenna for the E220 modem, so a longer USB cable also increase the signal strength. (dont use cables longer than 5m tho).

    On the expensive side you can purchase one of the high gain antennas from e-bay to significantly increase the signal strengths, but the USB cable thing really works very well in SL AFIK.

    Who needs a HSDPA connection


    1. Some one that cant get a SLT 2Mbps ADSL connection or cant afford it. (no ADSL 512 is just not enough even to consider as broadband these days)

    2. some one that needs mobility while browsing, HSDPA is a must

    3. some one who needs best download speed for the buck but doesnt really care about the upload speeds, theres nothing else out there that can match HSDPA in SL.

    so there it is.
     
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    rukshankb

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    yep this speed is very good, But the problem is limited bandwidth. So we can't use it for 1 month. That's why SLT ADSL is he best solution for many customers.
    You are talking about the technology, It's true! Nobody argue with the speed. But in Dialog , There is a FUP to limit the usage. What do you think about it? That's the cheating people.
     

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    Improving HSDPA signal strength

    You can do several simple things to improve the signals, the most simple one is to use the Y shaped 1m USB cable that comes with the modem, connect both ends to two usb Ports and this will give the modem more amps, plus the outer sheild of the USB cable acts as a Antenna for the E220 modem, so a longer USB cable also increase the signal strength. (dont use cables longer than 5m tho).

    On the expensive side you can purchase one of the high gain antennas from e-bay to significantly increase the signal strengths, but the USB cable thing really works very well in SL AFIK.

    doesnt this mean that the USB cable isn't shielded ?
     

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    rukshankb said:
    yep this speed is very good, But the problem is limited bandwidth. So we can't use it for 1 month. That's why SLT ADSL is he best solution for many customers.
    You are talking about the technology, It's true! Nobody argue with the speed. But in Dialog , There is a FUP to limit the usage. What do you think about it? That's the cheating people.

    Theres absolutely no cheating. FUP is there to limit downloaders from going bonkers on their network, plus on DIalog you can pay 100Rs to reset the limit for a day so if u use the total 5GB bandwidth in one day and pay 100RS a day for the rest of the month to get the full speed all the time Dialog HSDPA unlimited package it will cost u 6400Rs so its still cheaper than the SLT adsl 2mb package and any of the Mobitel packages and its much faster also. thats why im saying to get the facts straight.
     

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    rukshankb said:
    yep this speed is very good, But the problem is limited bandwidth. So we can't use it for 1 month. That's why SLT ADSL is he best solution for many customers.
    You are talking about the technology, It's true! Nobody argue with the speed. But in Dialog , There is a FUP to limit the usage. What do you think about it? That's the cheating people.

    just think like this,its not cheating,do you think that if SLT ADSL was as same as Dialog internet,that they will provide us unlimited downloads and uploads? in dialog it costs them more as its transceiving via wirelessly and what will happen if a base station which can handle 1000 connections at once will get more than 1000connections? once option is to upgrade their equipments but that not possible for every station,so because of that Dialog added the FUP(this is the standarad method for adding the FUP,I don't know exactly whether dialog uses the same methodology)

    anyone correct me if I'm wrong
     

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    crazy life said:
    just think like this,its not cheating,do you think that if SLT ADSL was as same as Dialog internet,that they will provide us unlimited downloads and uploads? in dialog it costs them more as its transceiving via wirelessly and what will happen if a base station which can handle 1000 connections at once will get more than 1000connections? once option is to upgrade their equipments but that not possible for every station,so because of that Dialog added the FUP(this is the standarad method for adding the FUP,I don't know exactly whether dialog uses the same methodology)

    anyone correct me if I'm wrong
    OFC ur not wrong, FUB is there on other networks as well like vodafone, DIalog doesnt have a direct backbone connection so i really cant blame about the FUP(where mobitel a subsidery of telecom has but it still have limits on downloads and charge for extra bandwidth).
     

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    fallenzeraphine said:
    OFC ur not wrong, FUB is there on other networks as well like vodafone, DIalog doesnt have a direct backbone connection so i really cant blame about the FUP(where mobitel a subsidery of telecom has but it still have limits on downloads and charge for extra bandwidth).
    ya mcn bt i heard dat they r goin to give unlimited on december ;)
     

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    Sahan678 said:
    ya mcn bt i heard dat they r goin to give unlimited on december ;)
    Ah lets hope they will give a competitive price..if its cheaper than Dialog i might try one after six months. mobitel seems to have a better network coverage than dialog but the speeds are all the same.
     

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    those Mobitel lamers said they are gonna give unlimited HSPA.

    Dialog is new to HSPA & they currently gives Unlimited (FUP applies. yeah!) HSPA.
    but, Mobitel still doesn't :/
     

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    geethq said:
    machan uba uda panala newey homben kiwwath matarata oya HSDPA signal Full thibilath kawadawath 125KBs ta wada/1Mbs ta wada enne naa:P:P:P
    Maybe u didnt read the whole thing, the speed depends on a lot of things, even if you have full signal strength if the access point is crowded you wont get the maximum possible speed.(and you will never get 7.2Mbps that's the theoretical max). and obviously they cant cover the whole damn island in year so we have to wait.
     

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    fallenzeraphine said:
    Maybe u didnt read the whole thing, the speed depends on a lot of things, even if you have full signal strength if the access point is crowded you wont get the maximum possible speed.(and you will never get 7.2Mbps that's the theoretical max). and obviously they cant cover the whole damn island in year so we have to wait.
    mama okkoma kiyewwa nisa ne uba anthimata dala thibba 6~MB eka dakke lol
    ape gedarata 3G tower eka penawa banz:P
    Full signal thiyenne uda thaththuwata
    eeth elawwa 120~KBs ta wada enne na