Brother Jesus is talking about Holy Spirit (oh just say Spirit) not about another messenger (bt Jesus will come again i think you people also b'live this bt i knw there are some differences in that story also)
If i say I have experienced this spirit i do not think you b'live me ? so how do you know it?
Here are the 9 fruits of the Holy Spirit listed one right after the other in a highlighted, numbered format:
1.Love
2.Joy
3.Peace
4.Longsuffering
5.Kindness
6.Goodness
7.Faithfulness
8.Gentleness
9.Self-control
Now here is the specific verse from Scripture where these 9 fruits are being given to us by the Lord:
“But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control.” (Galatians 5:22)
The word “Spirit” is with a capital “S” – which means these 9 fruits are coming directly from the Holy Spirit, not from us.
OK.if I agree with you for sake of argument. please answer the following
1- Then why Jesus used "HE" and "HIM"
John 16:7-14 (New International Version)
But very truly I tell you, it is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. 8 When he comes, he will prove the world to be in the wrong about sin and righteousness and judgment: 9 about sin, because people do not believe in me; 10 about righteousness, because I am going to the Father, where you can see me no longer; 11 and about judgment, because the prince of this world now stands condemned.
2- above it says "advocate" in one instance 1 John 2:1 (New International Version)
My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One.
Above advocate refers to Jesus christ, then in earlier verse indicated advocate, why can't be person like Jesus who brought the orders from God.how do u answer me this? same words refers to opposite meaning???..
for your information, to cover up this problem in new king james version, in earlier quoted versus is translated as " comforter" instead of advocate..then my question is why Greek word "Parakletos" is translated in one place as comforter in another place advocate..why christians scholars are misleading and keep on translating the verses as per their convenient.
03- The comforter can not be the Holy Ghost because the Holy Ghost (according to the Bible) was "with" them already (and even quite active) long before the coming of Jesus (peace be upon him) himself and then throughout his ministry
i HAVE GIVEN YOU THE FRUITS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT now you realise something going not in your way so now you bring a new word "word comforter" all of these words are reffering to holy spirit
let's find out more why this sprit can not be Prophet Muhamed, did it come before Muhammed? YES
The Holy Spirit Comes at Pentecost Acts 21When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. 2Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. 4All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tonguesa as the Spirit enabled them.
5Now there were staying in Jerusalem God-fearing Jews from every nation under heaven. 6When they heard this sound, a crowd came together in bewilderment, because each one heard them speaking in his own language. 7Utterly amazed, they asked: “Are not all these men who are speaking Galileans? 8Then how is it that each of us hears them in his own native language? 9Parthians, Medes and Elamites; residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, 10Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya near Cyrene; visitors from Rome 11(both Jews and converts to Judaism); Cretans and Arabs—we hear them declaring the wonders of God in our own tongues!” 12Amazed and perplexed, they asked one another, “What does this mean?”
the funniest thing is still there were people like you said
13Some, however, made fun of them and said, “They have had too much wine.”
17“‘In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
here he didn't say I will pour out my Spirit trough another messenger OK
Genesis 1:2 "And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness [was] upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters."
1 Samuel 10:10 "And when they came thither to the hill, behold, a company of prophets met him; and the Spirit of God came upon him, and he prophesied among them."
1 Samuel 11:6 "And the Spirit of God came upon Saul when he heard those tidings, and his anger was kindled greatly."
"Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, and his people, saying, Where is he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock? where is he that put his holy Spirit within him?" (Isaiah 63:11)
"For he (John the Baptist) shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb." (Luke 1:15)
"And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee." (Luke 1:35)
"And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost" (Luke 1:41)
more over why I need to prove you like this..your bible it self is a proof see below versus which says Jesus is Prophet..Alhamdulillah!!
"...This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee." (Matthew 21:11) "
...Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people" (Luke 24:19
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even after this, if this doesn't get in your mind. I'm sorry brother..anyway reply me.
this holy spirit were there from the begining i agreed with you on that but when Jesus was there that spirit is with him that is why jesus said
"But I tell you the truth: It is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Counselor will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. - John 16:7 (just think abt it son)
Same thing I have to say to u brother just be open minded and read one of thoese Gospel completely (I recomend you Gospel of John and The Acts)
i can tell you one thing you will never understand our Jesus Christ untill you clear your my (Knock the door will be opened to you)
Do not just lestern to what your great lectures say to you b'live me some of them have no idea what they're talking abt other thing is no matter what they said or done they can not make you believe (I mean truely ok) you are the one who should b'live
Christian tells this to muslim...really haa!!ha! I dont think so.Bible it self is witness as to how Christian scholars misguided its followers by changing or revising the words. more over words fabricated time to time.
