Israel's Covid-19 spike after vaccination

Nucleardeath

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    Israel වල කන්ෆර්ම්ඩ් කේසස්, කන්ෆර්ම්ඩ් මරණ වැඩි වීම ගැන මොකද හිතෙන්නේ?

    මුළු ජනගහනයෙන් 78.1% ඊශ්‍රායලයේ වැක්සිනේටඩ්.

    රෝහල් ගත කල අයගෙන් 60% fully vaccinated.


    Sources

    https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/countries-and-territories/israel/

    https://www.beckershospitalreview.c...s-in-israel-fully-vaccinated-study-finds.html

    https://ourworldindata.org/vaccination-israel-impact
     

    imhotep

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    Yes... That's because no vaccine guarantees you of 100% immunity against the disease. Moreover all Generation-1 vaccines are based on the original Wuhan virus. So all of these current vaccines have reduced efficacy against the new variants. Hence the "Breakthrough" infections arise. However, the current vaccines are able to reduce the hospitalizations and the death rate.

    We have to move onto Gen-2 or Gen-3 vaccines or an anti-viral drug. That's the only way out of this. Sadly this will take more time. Not before 2023.
     

    iworld

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    චී ලංකාව
    Israel වල කන්ෆර්ම්ඩ් කේසස්, කන්ෆර්ම්ඩ් මරණ වැඩි වීම ගැන මොකද හිතෙන්නේ?

    මුළු ජනගහනයෙන් 78.1% ඊශ්‍රායලයේ වැක්සිනේටඩ්.

    රෝහල් ගත කල අයගෙන් 60% fully vaccinated.


    Sources

    https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/countries-and-territories/israel/

    https://www.beckershospitalreview.c...s-in-israel-fully-vaccinated-study-finds.html

    https://ourworldindata.org/vaccination-israel-impact
    සරලවම කිව්වොත්
    ඔය වැක්සීන් ගැහුවා නොගැහුව ඔක්කොටම කොරෝනා එක වේරියන්‍ට් එකක් හරි හැදෙනවා
    කට්ටියක් මැරෙනවා
    තව කට්ටියක් හැදිලා නොමැරුනත් ලෙඩ වෙලා වීක් වෙනවා
    අනිත් අය හැදිලා සනීප වෙනවා
     

    Nucleardeath

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    Yes... That's because no vaccine guarantees you of 100% immunity against the disease. Moreover all Generation-1 vaccines are based on the original Wuhan virus. So all of these current vaccines have reduced efficacy against the new variants. Hence the "Breakthrough" infections arise. However, the current vaccines are able to reduce the hospitalizations and the death rate.

    We have to move onto Gen-2 or Gen-3 vaccines or an anti-viral drug. That's the only way out of this. Sadly this will take more time. Not before 2023.

    Yes but the thing is, that was not how all these vaccines were touted when they came out. No refunds right? Pfizer, AZ etc worth got bigger by the billions (with government sanctioned immunity from law suits too I might add)

    Also even though there won't be 100% immunity, why is there a spike in cases and deaths? Wouldn't the numbers flat line at least with the vaccine being given to 78.1% of the total population?
     

    imhotep

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    Yes but the thing is, that was not how all these vaccines were touted when they came out. No refunds right? Pfizer, AZ etc worth got bigger by the billions (with government sanctioned immunity from law suits too I might add)

    Also even though there won't be 100% immunity, why is there a spike in cases and deaths? Wouldn't the numbers flat line at least with the vaccine being given to 78.1% of the total population?
    You can't sue the vaccine makers. They have indemnity. Only under these conditions they released the vaccine. AZ is non-profit.
    To answer your question partly in the US the spike is because those unvaccinated. CDC claims this figure is close to 99%. In Israel there's a fair share of immuno-compromised people.
     

    Die-hard

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    Israel's වල තියෙන health system එක අපිට වඩා වැඩි....අනික උන්ගේ ජනගහනය ලක්ෂ 93..

    ඔය කරනු දෙක බැලුවම ලංකාවේ ලක්ෂ 160 (අවුරුදු 18 වැඩි සියලු දෙනා) එන්නත්කරණය කරත් දවසකට 50/100 මැරෙන එක නවත්වන්න බැරි වෙන ලයින් එකක් යන්නේ ...
     

    Nucleardeath

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    You can't sue the vaccine makers. They have indemnity. Only under these conditions they released the vaccine. AZ is non-profit.
    To answer your question partly in the US the spike is because those unvaccinated. CDC claims this figure is close to 99%. In Israel there's a fair share of immuno-compromised people.
    "You can't sue the vaccine makers"

    That is what I'm saying. I find it strange that people blindly trust big pharma corporations when it has been proven time and time again that they are corrupt to the core. AZ being non-profit is one big joke. The word "non-profit" doesn't exist in the dictionary of these mega corporations.
     

    imhotep

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    "You can't sue the vaccine makers"

    That is what I'm saying. I find it strange that people blindly trust big pharma corporations when it has been proven time and time again that they are corrupt to the core. AZ being non-profit is one big joke. The word "non-profit" doesn't exist in the dictionary of these mega corporations.
    It's not a joke... AZ is now losing money from the Covid vaccine. The Govenments funded the University of Oxford to develop the vaccine. Things are not what it seems on the surface. Much complicated.

    OTOH the Chinese made money... - and those who purchased these made money too.:P
     
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    Nucleardeath

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    It's not a joke... AZ is now losing money from the Covid vaccine. The Govenments funded the University of Oxford to develop the vaccine. Things are not what it seems on the surface. Much complicated.

    OTOH the Chinese made money... - and those who purchased these made money too.:P
    Much complicated and sinister than people think indeed :P
     

    imhotep

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    But an annual jab should put things under control shouldn’t it?

    What we need is an "Universal Covid Vaccine" that is variant proof.... I have posted details on the mechanism & the development of these. But these are on Phase I.
    The current vaccine efficacy is quite unpredictable. Recent US studies show that many over 65 years old lose antibody levels much sooner than expected.
     

    Nucleardeath

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    Have you seen Bill Gates comments back in 2018 requesting people to prepare for a pandemic? 😦
    ------ Post added on Sep 7, 2021 at 6:19 PM
    Yeah I have. Not just that, there are so many things that doesn't add up about this whole thing if you look closely. But I wouldn't recommend doing that because its better to live in the comfort of ignorance :P
     

    erozan

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