Key Facts about Swine Influenza (Swine Flu)

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:shocked::shocked::shocked: poor pig... he is not the one 2 b blamed...

As the so called god made the world and stuff, he is the bloody idiot who made this virus :lol::lol::lol:
may be he also had swine flue, and he thot 2 give it 2 one of his creations, so poor pig is the chosen one :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::D:D:D:D
 

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What's your point Hafizaad? Give it to me in your own words

i Prefer to see people whose search and knowledge more than me ...
To my opinion Swine Flue is basically the decease of pig that directly transmitted from pigs to people and then people to peoples.i think previous post are so clear that no more possitive and negitive comments are needed. the scientific detail given is more than religious detail now why you are hesitant in accepting the facts ?
 

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    this is stupidity at best.

    same as always, no scientific evidence what so ever to back up quran and trying to relate utter bullshit !

    How come this thread is on religious section??
     

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    i Prefer to see people whose search and knowledge more than me ...
    To my opinion Swine Flue is basically the decease of pig that directly transmitted from pigs to people and then people to peoples.i think previous post are so clear that no more possitive and negitive comments are needed. the scientific detail given is more than religious detail now why you are hesitant in accepting the facts ?

    But hafizaad your own post says something a little different:

    Pigs can be infected by avian influenza and human influenza viruses as well as swine influenza viruses. When influenza viruses from different species infect pigs, the viruses can reassort (i.e. swap genes) and new viruses that are a mix of swine, human and/or avian influenza viruses can emerge.
     

    hafizsaad

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    But hafizaad your own post says something a little different:
    Pigs can be infected by avian influenza and human influenza viruses as well as swine influenza viruses. When influenza viruses from different species infect pigs, the viruses can reassort (i.e. swap genes) and new viruses that are a mix of swine, human and/or avian influenza viruses can emerge.

    yes it is possible pig can be effected. your quote answering itself that i have highlight.
     

    Wal Bada

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  • hafisaad said:
    i Prefer to see people whose search and knowledge more than me ...
    To my opinion Swine Flue is basically the decease of pig that directly transmitted from pigs to people and then people to peoples.i think previous post are so clear that no more possitive and negitive comments are needed. the scientific detail given is more than religious detail now why you are hesitant in accepting the facts ?
    Now what is the solution? Kill all the pigs? But in a earlier post you said that you should not hate pigs?

    And BTW, it is not transmitted by pork.
     
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    And Malaria has killed 10,000 times than H1N1.
    So is dengue.

    SARS is umpteen times deadly than H1N1, and it infects chicken.

    What's your point infact?

    කන්න හිතුනම කබරයා තලගොයා වෙනවා කියන්නේ කට කහනවටද? :lol::lol::lol:
     

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    And Malaria has killed 10,000 times than H1N1.
    So is dengue.

    SARS is umpteen times deadly than H1N1, and it infects chicken.

    What's your point infact?

    as wikipedia search on history of swine flue show, this virus has effect human being mainly come from pig and more there is so much option of meat infront of us to fulfill our need of meat then why we insist on eating meat and placing near human such a dirty and jermy animal.

    i am not refering my religion here but we should accept the fact as discuss before...
     

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    yes it is possible pig can be effected. your quote answering itself that i have highlight.

    Hafizaad, did you even bother to read the original point I had made.

    new viruses that are a mix of swine, human and/or avian influenza viruses can emerge

    This is meant to say that swine flu is not a pig disease created by pigs. What you see today as swine flu has genetic material from a variety of animals. The pig is just an intermediary.
     

    Wal Bada

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  • as wikipedia search on history of swine flue show, this virus has effect human being mainly come from pig and more there is so much option of meat infront of us to fulfill our need of meat then why we insist on eating meat and placing near human such a dirty and jermy animal.
    Now the facts are
    1. H1N1 infects man as an accidental host
    2. It does not transmit by pork

    If you don't eat pork, even then the problem is not solved, because the same thing can happen inside wild pigs. And you may know that wild boar comes to very close proximity with human dwellings. The only way is to kill all pigs and boar.

    You cannot go back to that option because you quran says not to hate pigs, and not to kill any animal if you are not eating its flesh.

    Now see what Allha has created?:eek::no:
     

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    This is meant to say that swine flu is not a pig disease created by pigs. What you see today as swine flu has genetic material from a variety of animals. The pig is just an intermediary.

    no this mean new virus can be created through the mixture of swine, human influenza , see again:

    Pigs can be infected by avian influenza and human influenza viruses as well as swine influenza viruses. When influenza viruses from different species infect pigs, the viruses can reassort (i.e. swap genes) and new viruses that are a mix of swine, human and/or avian influenza viruses can emerge..
     

    Mononoke

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    no this mean new virus can be created through the mixture of swine, human influenza , see again:

    Pigs can be infected by avian influenza and human influenza viruses as well as swine influenza viruses. When influenza viruses from different species infect pigs, the viruses can reassort (i.e. swap genes) and new viruses that are a mix of swine, human and/or avian influenza viruses can emerge..

    Exactly, so why are pigs to blame?
     

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    Now the facts are
    1. H1N1 infects man as an accidental host
    2. It does not transmit by pork

    this all your personal interpretition....
    give scientific proof for your comments

    You cannot go back to that option because you quran says not to hate pigs, and not to kill any animal if you are not eating its flesh.
    we don't say to kill all animal but harmful nature like snake etc. but those who are not not harmful, it is not necessary they must be beneficial...
    anyhow facts are clear in this thread for any rational person...
    this is your personal choice you place pig in your home...eat with it...or eat its meat...
    i will comment no more...
     

    Wal Bada

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  • this all your personal interpretition....
    give scientific proof for your comments
    Here is evidence

    Transmission of the virus from pigs to humans is not common and does not always lead to human influenza, often resulting only in the production of antibodies in the blood. If transmission does cause human influenza, it is called zoonotic swine flu. People with regular exposure to pigs are at increased risk of swine flu infection. The meat of an infected animal poses no risk of infection when properly cooked.

    Source - Wikipedia

    Here is another source.

    Centers for Disease control and prevention


    Swine flu viruses do not normally infect humans. However, sporadic human infections with swine flu have occurred.

    Can people catch swine flu from eating pork?

    No. Swine influenza viruses are not transmitted by food. You can not get swine influenza from eating pork or pork products. Eating properly handled and cooked pork and pork products is safe. Cooking pork to an internal temperature of 160°F kills the swine flu virus as it does other bacteria and viruses.


    we don't say to kill all animal but harmful nature like snake etc. but those who are not not harmful, it is not necessary they must be beneficial...
    anyhow facts are clear in this thread for any rational person...
    this is your personal choice you place pig in your home...eat with it...or eat its meat...
    i will comment no more...
    I have given the sources. I have proved my point. Now don't keep running away from the question. I am asking for the solution. What can you do to stop it according to Quran?