Linux(SUSE 10.2) beats VISTA

[GTRZ]

I am not saying windows servers are rock solid secure but easy to maintain, patch and secure. Linux more hard and lot of effort
From my idea when it comes to server software Windows and Linux kinda equal both software can be hacked and both should be monitored. Windows kinda easy to manage and monitor but linux bit harder than that.

Win servers used all over the world even in large infrastructures and so do linux.

 

[kudalla]

ya but linux WHM/Cpanel also cost lot of $$, I think more than Helm too. php might be free but community script not. If you go with Cent OS then its free but if you go with enterprice level then redhat enterprise linux. Still cost you $$

Do U think that U can save those $$ U have mentioned above, if U go with Windows???

 

[GTRZ]

Symantec are pissed off against Microsoft because some of the features of Vista were kept hidden from them and because Vista's protection mechanisms can send them out of business

and also coz MS doing thier own Anti virus

 

[GTRZ]

Do U think that U can save those $$ U have mentioned above, if U go with Windows???

no still cost me money. I just wanted to point out linux not all free as every1 think

 

[dineitdark]

I am not saying windows servers are rock solid secure but easy to maintain, patch and secure. Linux more hard and lot of effort
From my idea when it comes to server software Windows and Linux kinda equal both software can be hacked and both should be monitored. Windows kinda easy to manage and monitor but linux bit harder than that.

Win servers used all over the world even in large infrastructures and so do linux.

well what i think is that... when u configure a linux box. its solid. it'll do its job. u have to do the patching and stuff yes.. but then its much better than waiting days till MS release a patch to a newly discovered vanu in win sys...? most of the time when a vanu is discovered in linux or some OS software... the patch comes out withing hours. but for windows its days... and sometimes even weeks... leaving a alot of work for the admins.... like blocking a service temp... or applying some homemade hack to keep the servers safe...

so i guess there is a major advantage in linux over win....

 

[kudalla]

I am not saying windows servers are rock solid secure but easy to maintain, patch and secure. Linux more hard and lot of effort
From my idea when it comes to server software Windows and Linux kinda equal both software can be hacked and both should be monitored. Windows kinda easy to manage and monitor but linux bit harder than that.

Win servers used all over the world even in large infrastructures and so do linux.

If U have correctly configured IPTABLES, U can minimize those attacks which U R talking by 80%.....

 

[dineitdark]

Symantec are pissed off against Microsoft because some of the features of Vista were kept hidden from them and because Vista's protection mechanisms can send them out of business

yeah they should be pissed at MS but still in that report they give enough reasoning to justify there claims! so its not a bunch of lies...

plus don't forget that vista has some ugly DRM!!!

 

[dineitdark]

ya but linux WHM/Cpanel also cost lot of $$, I think more than Helm too. php might be free but community script not. If you go with Cent OS then its free but if you go with enterprice level then redhat enterprise linux. Still cost you $$

there are a lot of options pal... a lot of options... if u want free(as in beer) stuff well there are a plenty of options... phpBB, phpfusion.... etc etc etc...

redhat OS don't really cost you you can get it for free.. but they are charging for the updates and stuff... which is very fair!!!

why not give a try to debian ha? its a good server OS eh? and may be gentoo even... well u'll have to compile everything so its gonna be a lot of work but still don't forget the performance boost!!!

 

[dineitdark]

None of those effects are useful IMO. In fact, I have turned off the effects of Vista as well.


Entertainment & ease of use

the world most easy to use OS is tiger OSX which is a *nix os.... not windows! and entertainment...... go take a look at Ultimate ubuntu's screenshots, notice the list of multimedia apps there!!! man linux got a wealthy base of multimedia apps!!! there are sooooooooooo many dj apps and all sorts of things!!!

and if you are into 3D ani... keep in mind that lots of holywood movie's 3D stuff is done with Free and open source software!

 

[GTRZ]

well what i think is that... when u configure a linux box. its solid. it'll do its job. u have to do the patching and stuff yes.. but then its much better than waiting days till MS release a patch to a newly discovered vanu in win sys...? most of the time when a vanu is discovered in linux or some OS software... the patch comes out withing hours. but for windows its days... and sometimes even weeks... leaving a alot of work for the admins.... like blocking a service temp... or applying some homemade hack to keep the servers safe...

so i guess there is a major advantage in linux over win....

You are talking about only the Linux OS bro, hosting not only OS there are lot of software running inside, most of that industry standard software are paid like MS.
So same trouble like dealing with MS. And even it’s harder.
If you using enterprise level linux then you will have to wait for the vendors release too.

If you using linux desktops then its really good all free and nicely patched. But still If you have a good firewall or a security software in Win still its not a problem. So I think its mostly the $ which makes win and linux different when it comes to desktops.

 

[dineitdark]

I am not saying windows servers are rock solid secure but easy to maintain, patch and secure. Linux more hard and lot of effort
From my idea when it comes to server software Windows and Linux kinda equal both software can be hacked and both should be monitored. Windows kinda easy to manage and monitor but linux bit harder than that.

Win servers used all over the world even in large infrastructures and so do linux.

win servers are used in far farrrrrr less amounts than lin servers... go to this netcraft site and look at this...

http://news.netcraft.com/archives/web_server_survey.html

 

[GTRZ]

If U have correctly configured IPTABLES, U can minimize those attacks which U R talking by 80%.....

Well that's configuring but its really customization for the software you use and services, but still not you are secure. Most linux servers which get hacked has well managed basic configuration.

 

[dineitdark]

no still cost me money. I just wanted to point out linux not all free as every1 think

linux is supposed to be free as in freedom and as free as in free beer! if it is all free as in free beer how the hell can OS developers buy there lunch???

 

[nEoN_wHitE]

If Windows was free, I don't think anyone will use Linux.

even tho linux is free.. it sux

 

[dineitdark]

Well that's configuring but its really customization for the software you use and services, but still not you are secure. Most linux servers which get hacked has well managed basic configuration.

setup snort... an open source first calss IDS... do the basic security tight!!! and then u can relax a bit... but eh you are the admin!!! so u have to be busy at all times hehe...

 

[dineitdark]

and also coz MS doing thier own Anti virus

yeah MS is sooo ugly that they want to eliminate competition... thats really bad of em..

 

[dineitdark]

even tho linux is free.. it sux

hehe well thats what you think eh.... may be u should come out of that neon light and step in to the real world

 

[Anusha]

the world most easy to use OS is tiger OSX which is a *nix os.... not windows! and entertainment...... go take a look at Ultimate ubuntu's screenshots, notice the list of multimedia apps there!!! man linux got a wealthy base of multimedia apps!!! there are sooooooooooo many dj apps and all sorts of things!!!

OSX kernel is based on Unix, and that's it. The similarities end there. All the innvative stuff are Apple's creations.

and if you are into 3D ani... keep in mind that lots of holywood movie's 3D stuff is done with Free and open source software!

FOSS are not only for Linux. I use a lot of FOSS applications as well, and will continue to do so (if they are better than the paid apps). It has nothing to do with Linux.
And forget about gaming in Linux. There are of course certain FPS games running in Linux, but they can never compare to gaming in Windows.

 

[Anusha]

yeah MS is sooo ugly that they want to eliminate competition... thats really bad of em..

You call that eliminating competition? BS! That's increasing competition. Competition is what brings better products to the market.

 

[GTRZ]

win servers are used in far farrrrrr less amounts than lin servers... go to this netcraft site and look at this...

http://news.netcraft.com/archives/web_server_survey.html

well not farrrrrrr less as you say bro haha 31.09% for MS and 58.70% for Apache.

Anyway since linux is mostly cost effective solution for small servers and business its widely used.

Anyway some funny thing in the stats... you can see during those 3 months Windows Server user base has increased from 1% while apache server user base has decreased.