Microsoft's Biggest Enemy Now: Apple, Linux or Itself?

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    gayan kalhara said:

    and the viruses/hackers/mal wares and other nasty things created/spreads couz of the closed code.. and thats y linux dun have (almost.) nasty viruses..

    ppl lyk to open the closed door. but don't bother to reopen the opend one..

    FOSS hackers trying to be a hacker by developing things.. but in closed code.. you can already see whts happaning :D
    Then why Mac has even less number of viruses than Linux?

    Its mostly depending on the userbase. Virus writers write codes for popular OS for Wide reach. And virus writers are also anti virus makers. They wanna sell their product so they compete each other by writing viruses which other program can't scan.
    I have researched this well as a Virus scanner get popular its detection rate get low. Because then most of the virus writers spread the virus after scanning using all major anti-virus programs. I know still kaspersky and most of those russian anti virus scanners have good detection rate. thats coz they are the ones who writing viruses to make this game going.

    When it comes to server OS linux and Open source playing major role. MS server softwares are very expensive. So you think open source has big effect.
    If you don't manage or monitor your linux server well it will get hacked in no time. Its more easy and comparatively more safe to run a Windows server if you are not a tech person.

    So open source has its advantages and disadvantages.
    Open source has no virus and it can't be hacked coz its done by hackers are totally fake. But open source can help to improve the software.
     

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    GTRZ said:
    Linux or Mac or what ever you need good reasons to make people switch. In my opinion most people don't care open source or close source or what ever. They don't even know whats inside. They want something which will run faster and do things easily. That's all. They even like to pay some price for that.

    I see Mac has some few good reason to make people switch. But from Linux point of view still not much for normal PC users.

    yep

    thats we gonna care about that too.. the comps lyk canonical (ubuntu) consider about the UF thing.. but as i see the geeks mind is the prob. personally i like to code my self, see whats happening inside, control by hand, and i found and thinking "this is very easy. anyone can do that." and i know 99& of linux programmers on the same status. thats the matter.we are looking at our works in a geek view.. but normal ppl don't expect that.. and the microsoft know this. and solved it.. but we don't care. that much..

    (i realized this. so i get the help of my mother to test them, she is without much IT knowladege, and also she is a begginer for everything.

    my method is this. I'm put the programm on the screen an hand over the PC to her. and i leave the room, there is a hidden cam in my room and i record every single movements, actions of my mother infrount of my soft.. it always giving me the nongeek image... thats my seacret..
    )
     

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    nagaya said:
    mata linux walata honda video capture software ekak hoyala diyanko :rolleyes:

    mama use karanne xcap. eeth eeka echchara honda na

    captureme hari capturemydesktop. eka hari use karanna eeva ela
     

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    Then why Mac has even less number of viruses than Linux?

    Its mostly depending on the userbase. Virus writers write codes for popular OS for Wide reach. And virus writers are also anti virus makers. They wanna sell their product so they compete each other by writing viruses which other program can't scan.
    I have researched this well as a Virus scanner get popular its detection rate get low. Because then most of the virus writers spread the virus after scanning using all major anti-virus programs. I know still kaspersky and most of those russian anti virus scanners have good detection rate. thats coz they are the ones who writing viruses to make this game going.

    When it comes to server OS linux and Open source playing major role. MS server softwares are very expensive. So you think open source has big effect.
    If you don't manage or monitor your linux server well it will get hacked in no time. Its more easy and comparatively more safe to run a Windows server if you are not a tech person.

    So open source has its advantages and disadvantages.
    Open source has no virus and it can't be hacked coz its done by hackers are totally fake. But open source can help to improve the software.

    Mac OS X is based upon the Mach kernel.[7] Certain parts from FreeBSD's and NetBSD's implementation of Unix were incorporated in Nextstep
    :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mach_kernel

    Mach is an operating system microkernel developed at Carnegie Mellon University to support operating system research, primarily distributed and parallel computation.
     

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    gayan kalhara said:
    mama use karanne xcap. eeth eeka echchara honda na

    captureme hari capturemydesktop. eka hari use karanna eeva ela
    mata one bn /dev/video0 eken ganna..nt 4m X
     

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    nagaya said:
    mata one bn /dev/video0 eken ganna..nt 4m X

    afoi.. ehema ekak da? eekiyanne cam eken? directly,... eeka nam duno. kavadaavath mata ee prob eka avilla na.. mathak karapu eka honndai:yes:
     

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    gayan kalhara said:
    afoi.. ehema ekak da? eekiyanne cam eken? directly,... eeka nam duno. kavadaavath mata ee prob eka avilla na.. mathak karapu eka honndai:yes:
    aththrama cam ekak newe tv card eka.... xawtv puluwan quality char..
    i want dvd q with sound :D
     

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    gayan kalhara said:
    thats smply called social addiction. that couze they Germany to follow Hitler. France to follow Napoleon. today world follow bill gates..:) m$its marketing tech is the gr8est one i hv ever seen (after sakvithi)

    with the compatibility thing.. the venders are still afrad to face a new chalange.. thats the prob. but slowly. REALLY SLOWLY HW venders lyk. sony, IBM, huawie, HP (totally) support linux or get supported by hackers (i mean the developers).. lets HOPE.. we cann't expect a NORMANDY attack.. but we can see a viatkong.. :D

    What ever the reason people using Windows so other OS should try to make reasons to switch.



    gayan kalhara said:
    In the other hand.. when its started to make their softs for intel x86 .. considarable amount of ppl have installed.it with their IBM PCs. its a geeks stuff. but its spreading as a virus :) . even i'm willing to have a mac OC in my PC. and i'm currently working on it ;)

    mm their no 1 policy.. "their SWs should run on their own Hws.. buts its changing... 1 step was the i tunes. then the intel chip.. and little by little they will also capture a larg potion from m$s market.. (personally I lyk it couz. mac is BSD so mac users easly can switch to Linux.. its almost same

    Mac wanna sell their machines. They are not only a software company. They make lot of money selling hardware. Their softwares are very cheap compared to Windows. And they have some killer application software which you can't find with Win or Linux

    If you want Mac OS running on your computer hope this thread helps
    http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2075011
     

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    gayan kalhara said:
    hay anybody know about a mac SERVER ?? i mean a web server ?? i never saw such a thing.. and like to...

    The software is called Mac OS X Server.
    Hardware Xserve
     

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    Then why Mac has even less number of viruses than Linux?

    Its mostly depending on the userbase. Virus writers write codes for popular OS for Wide reach. And virus writers are also anti virus makers. They wanna sell their product so they compete each other by writing viruses which other program can't scan.
    I have researched this well as a Virus scanner get popular its detection rate get low. Because then most of the virus writers spread the virus after scanning using all major anti-virus programs. I know still kaspersky and most of those russian anti virus scanners have good detection rate. thats coz they are the ones who writing viruses to make this game going.

    When it comes to server OS linux and Open source playing major role. MS server softwares are very expensive. So you think open source has big effect.
    If you don't manage or monitor your linux server well it will get hacked in no time. Its more easy and comparatively more safe to run a Windows server if you are not a tech person.

    So open source has its advantages and disadvantages.
    Open source has no virus and it can't be hacked coz its done by hackers are totally fake. But open source can help to improve the software.

    agreed...

    and another way... If some one found a whole. in the sys. He can fix it. or else. any other can help him.

    i remember a reasent one.. the Debian encription's random hash code was not truly random. .. buts its not a gr8 prob couz for a normal PC. the broutforce process will take about 3 years to brake the hash// but its recovered by the socity, solved by the socity.. and the benifits go for the socity ..

    a virus may harm a 1 system.. but when a newer or diff distro comes in.,... "where is that damn virus? "

    the most hackable system is the linux.. thats its gr8est advantage and. dis (in some cases) thats y i love it.. it gives me the full absolutely FULL control in my own PC....
     

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    nagaya said:
    Mac OS X is based upon the Mach kernel.[7] Certain parts from FreeBSD's and NetBSD's implementation of Unix were incorporated in Nextstep
    :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mach_kernel

    Mach is an operating system microkernel developed at Carnegie Mellon University to support operating system research, primarily distributed and parallel computation.

    ya based on but OSX is not totally open source. Some parts are open source. As i remember Safari is one app which is open source.

    Same like that MS also has lot of software on .net open source.

    So those giants using even open source to make money when its needed.
     

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    ya based on but OSX is not totally open source. Some parts are open source. As i remember Safari is one app which is open source.

    Same like that MS also has lot of software on .net open source.

    So those giants using even open source to make money when its needed.

    and the m$s codeplex? (not sure about the name) it make a ground for OSS developers to share/ upload their projects.. hik hik

    actually I thin m$ is collecting OSS. ideas.. couz todays Ideas are expensive..

    I saw a RMSs video .. hik hik i dun hv to say ha.. RMS = Troubles and blames for closed coders
     

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    GTRZ said:
    What ever the reason people using Windows so other OS should try to make reasons to switch.

    agreed.. thats one of my personal target. i thin the whole foss world should think lyk dat


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    And they have some killer application software which you can't find with Win or Linux

    :yes::yes::yes: thats the power of apple (25 years with out spoiling :D )
     

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    gayan kalhara said:
    no i mean actually running commercial server ??

    yes people running commercial servers with them. You can use it for the same type of task like Windows or Linux servers.
     

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    yes people running commercial servers with them. You can use it for the same type of task like Windows or Linux servers.

    mmm I C

    actually I like macs and have a old imac :D . and even hv tried the mac G5 things wht a gr8 machine


    I love to see a mac server... I'll google it.. thnx..

    any one using mac servers in SL ? i saw linux ones and windows one.. but never had a visual contact of a working Mac :(
     

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    gayan kalhara said:

    yah

    but why they gonna tell PC venders to stop installing XP and switched to vista?

    in the future. they'll tell STOP VISTA, give them Win 7 :)

    mmm they don't care (almost) about endusers. they target the huge vendors rather than personal users. and vendors expecting a HUGE market for their products... so y M$ contarol their products after selling them? Its on our hands or else?

    mm

    forget some thing ..out topic

    how about the netbooks... all the benchmarks said the Win 7 is a old wolkwagon at almost all the netbooks.. even the vista runs only with higher end NBs... but the linux?

    OK lets say they install Linux on Notebooks and PCs. So ppl rush to it and buy?
    Nope.

    Actually there are lot other factors to make people switch than a small speed difference of a benchmark. Mostly all the geeks have Windows machine or running windows too. So that tells the story.

    About Windows 7 its not even beta 2 yet. And as i know the beta not targeting netbooks.