Nationalizing and patriotism

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coolgayathra said:
ow ow
desha premi
hewath patriotism ekata mukuth onen na
ape army eke kollo mukuth labuna hinda nemi thamange jeewithaya rata wewu wen puda kaale:yes:

eeka thamai point eka...
Habai ethanath depaththak thiyenawa... e Army eke ayata monthly salary ekak dunne naththam ethana kee denayida ithuru wenne?


kosandpol said:
um.. guys we are way off topic now.
I understand nationalism as love and loyalty for one's nation where nation is considered to be the whole country. Regardless of the individual races living in that country.

At least, in this thread, can we stick with this definition for these words and get back to the topic?

Well... I call it as patriotism.
 

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x-pert said:
eeka thamai point eka...
Habai ethanath depaththak thiyenawa... e Army eke ayata monthly salary ekak dunne naththam ethana kee denayida ithuru wenne?




Well... I call it as patriotism.
eka waradi machan
mothlyu salary eka labanna num jeewath wenna onnme
keedenek rata wenuwen jeewithe dunnada?
ay alimankada veeraya
gamini hasalak
he give his lif e to protect the camp
knwing
he will not get aything
 

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coolgayathra said:
eka waradi machan
mothlyu salary eka labanna num jeewath wenna onnme
keedenek rata wenuwen jeewithe dunnada?
ay alimankada veeraya
gamini hasalak
he give his lif e to protect the camp
knwing
he will not get aything

owow machan. mama kiyuwe naha okkomalla ehemai kiyala.

but mama personally dannawa godak Army ekata join wenne job ekak nathi kamin saha salli awashya nisai kiyala. or thamunge podi kaale idan thibunu asaawa itu karaganna. bohoma tika denayi aththenma rata wenuwen thiyena aadare nisa join wenne....

issara Diyathalawa training camp ekedi training ena unta hoda poriyal ekak denawa un aththatama army ekata join wechcha reason eka kiyanakan...
godak aya patan ganne rata wenuwen kiyala. namuth anthimata hawas weddi kiyanawa wenin jobs walata try kala.. ekakwath hari giye naha so anthimata army ekata apply kala kiyala..

Ow hasalaka Gamini, Niro wage ayath godak innawa army eke. anna eyala nisa thamai meh yudde iwarayak karanna puluwan une. habai karumeta eyala maruna...
 

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kosandpol said:
If its going to be a war on words, lets call this definition as ZZZ.
:P

no mate. I told that in the threads context.

If that is what you call nationalism, then Hitler's quote is wrong.

But if that's what we call patriotism and nationalism is something else, to have which you have to give the citizens something, then Hitler is correct.
 

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anunta henagahala giyath kamak natuwa inna ekei hena gahana ekei dekenma wenne echchara honda deyak nam neme ;)

btw:
ya I agree with kosandpol........nationalism is based on societal factors. That's why people are going for greener pastures
 

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x-pert said:
owow machan. mama kiyuwe naha okkomalla ehemai kiyala.

but mama personally dannawa godak Army ekata join wenne job ekak nathi kamin saha salli awashya nisai kiyala. or thamunge podi kaale idan thibunu asaawa itu karaganna. bohoma tika denayi aththenma rata wenuwen thiyena aadare nisa join wenne....

issara Diyathalawa training camp ekedi training ena unta hoda poriyal ekak denawa un aththatama army ekata join wechcha reason eka kiyanakan...
godak aya patan ganne rata wenuwen kiyala. namuth anthimata hawas weddi kiyanawa wenin jobs walata try kala.. ekakwath hari giye naha so anthimata army ekata apply kala kiyala..

Ow hasalaka Gamini, Niro wage ayath godak innawa army eke. anna eyala nisa thamai meh yudde iwarayak karanna puluwan une. habai karumeta eyala maruna...
ow ow
onnema army ekata badena kattiyak thamnage job eka hatiyata thamya badenne
but samaharu
aththatama rataa aadare nisath army ekata join wneo
 

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    x-pert said:
    no mate. I told that in the threads context.

    If that is what you call nationalism, then Hitler's quote is wrong.

    But if that's what we call patriotism and nationalism is something else, to have which you have to give the citizens something, then Hitler is correct.
    leave Hitler out of this. I used his words cause those words still makes sense in what I understand as nationalism.
    What Hitler thought is not the context of this thread.
    K apish ?
     

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    DJ.Parker said:
    @XP
    anunta henagahala giyath kamak natuwa inna ekei hena gahana ekei dekenma wenne echchara honda deyak nam neme ;)

    btw:
    ya I agree with kosandpol........nationalism is based on societal factors. That's why people are going for greener pastures
    Agree with both sentences ;)


    coolgayathra said:
    ow ow
    onnema army ekata badena kattiyak thamnage job eka hatiyata thamya badenne
    but samaharu
    aththatama rataa aadare nisath army ekata join wneo
    owu eeka hari :)

    kosandpol said:
    leave Hitler out of this. I used his words cause those words still makes sense in what I understand as nationalism.
    What Hitler thought is not the context of this thread.
    K apish ?

    :lol: ok. Now then what's the issue you're having mate?
    Or what is the question you're asking?

    Gotta go buddy. I'll catch you in another week or so :)
    Cheers
     
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    x-pert said:
    :lol: ok. Now then what's the issue you're having mate?
    Or what is the question you're asking?

    Gotta go buddy. I'll catch you in another week or so :)
    Cheers
    Not so much an issue but what people think on the notion that in order to achieve ZZZ (that's nationalism for me, patriotism for you) the living standards of the entire country needs to be uplifted to a point where everyone is in a state where they can be taught and learned about their country.
     

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    මෙවගේ පිස්සු මතෘකා පල කිරිමෙන් වලකින්න. සිOහල හරියට දැන පල කරන්න.
     

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    samruka said:
    මෙවගේ පිස්සු මතෘකා පල කිරිමෙන් වලකින්න. සිOහල හරියට දැන පල කරන්න.
    here's racism.
    The topic is not crazy. If you fail to understand it, that's your problem.
     

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    one's feelings towards his nation and race is cultivated and nurtured in ones mind thru the whole course of growing up, from the first day forth in ones life, he's told and taught or atleast inclined to think by his parents, relatives, and schools, to some extent, that ones nation is however greater to others.they emphasize the historical facts, current important figures of the nation, with whatever intention, to set ones mind to believe in nationalism. that's what they hear, that's the only thing they know. they got nothing to compare it with. and more to it, aspects like sports which compete other nations, crack up the entire ground we stand, which is the world, further to accentuate one's love to his nation and one's indifference to other nations despite the reality and the fact that we, our nation, are itself is only a part of this bigger being, which is again us, ppl.. its the society itself what initiate the differences in ones mind. lets say one wants to like and support a foreign sport team over his own, among his friends and all he's laughed at ..hated. so his desire to cling to things in which he really has faith in is overshadowed by a thought that is carved deep in his mind ..a feeling, a guilt that keeps him from betraying his nation even in the smallest most insignificant aspects. which i don't know if a good thing. but the way i see it, a kid shouldn't bring up to have blind faith in something. environment shouldn't set signs to influence one's free will in which sense not a country in this world is truly independant.