Zeus said:
you mean very little in in the world of devine
Thats mean those are most lucky guys
but only the human can go to the nirvanaya y????
Pinwath mithura, it's wrong... I have stated it correctly... Any being in and above human world (except for those in Asanna loka and Nevasannanaasnnayathana state) can attain Nibbana...
One will not come to Shraddha until he/she realize why Sammasambuddha Gautama is called "sattha devamanussanan" - the guide for devine and human. Guide for what? To follow the Path! to attain Nibbana!
Otherwise why would Margaphala Labin get born as devine?
Devine generally includes "Deva" and "Brahma" loka... There are lot of such lokas... You see 22 worlds mentioned the end of Dhammachakkapapwavattana sutta whose members participated in the first sermon of the Buddha... 1000s of divine had attained Nibbana while only one human attained Sothapathhi at the point...
Zeus said:
I think know pin means ( as i know)
Yamak kalata pasu hithe athivena pina yana swabavaya
pav means Hithe athivena hakilena swabavaya
No, my friend. But the mistake is not fault of yours; it's the way Dhamma is distorted as practiced today... But True Dhamma is out again.. and being practiced by many... This was discussed in this forum few weeks back...
According to Sammasambuddha Gauthama:
- Pina is another name for "Sepa"; Pawa is another name for "Dhukka"
It has a deep meaning... (let's discuss them in depth in a later post)
When we (a person with Avijja; whose mind is bound with Thanha) do any bad Kamma (with body, wording or thoughts)... our mind (to be precise: vinnana) grows accordingly... What formed is called Apunnabhisankara. Similarly when we do good the vinnana grows accordingly giving rise to Punnabhisankara. When we practice Jhana vinnahan grows producing Anenjabhisankara...
These sankhara will bringforth good/bad returns when the environment we are in is appropriate for the returns (i.e. if we born in hell; a sankhara that will be effective in a human world won't give returns)...
Zeus said:
Kusal akusal means the things to do to get to the nirvana
Actually pin also Sansaraya dik karanava
Yes, Kusal is Kamma we do when pursuing Arya Ashtanghika magga... It's returns nullify our past Kamma (step by step).. and take us to Nibbana...
The fact that Pina extend samsaraic existence is a Myth. It is the Paticcasamuppadaya that extends existence...
Whether we do pin or not we get born if Paticcasamuppada is not stopped... As we are in a long samsaraic existence we have a lot of Kamma inherited from past lives... So we are not lacking past Kamma... That's why...
This is why no one but a Sammasambuddha can find the Path...
Difference between Pin & Kusal is sometimes vague...
- If we obeserve sil (as a component of the Path) it becomes a Kusala... otherwise (e.g. for a person in another religion) it's just a Pina...
On the contrary to common belife Buddha has encouraged to do both Pin and Kusal...
It is the Pin that we've done that enables us to do Kusal... Best thing is not to differentiate; and do both Pin and Kusal...
Edited to add this:
I cannot type more on this... what I want to say are already in my posts in another thread... Pleas see post #107 in this thread for the link... Thanks
Theruwan saranai!
Because it may not be much effective when we discuss Dhamma while raga, dveesha, moha are not (at least momentarily) suppressed...
).. and nothing else...
neda?
