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    Okoma mayawak thamai.but mayawa athule owa tiyenawane ape mayawa thula pawathinawane reality ekak widiyata apita.ekai kiyanne.uba sadhguruge wachanayak allanan nahinna hadanawa.oya ananda theroth waves tiyenawa kivve.mayawata sapekshawa waves tiyenawa.eka terenne nedda
    මේ මොන කුනුහරුපයක්ද ? මෙහෙම එකක් බුද්ධ වචනයේ නම් නෑ. සදගුරු වගේ හොරු නම් කියනව ඇති!

    ආනන්ද හාමුදුරුවොන්ට ඕන දෙයක් කියන්න පුලුවන්, හැබැයි ත්‍රිපිටකය කෝට් කරල පෙන්නන්න ඕනේ බුද්ධ වචනයේ තියෙනව නං.
    සමහර හාමුදුරුවරු වයසට යද්දි නොයෙක් දේවල් කියනවා. ආනන්ද හාමුදුරුවෝ බුද්ධවචනය සම්බන්දයෙන් ඔතෝරිටි එකක් තියෙන හාමුදුරු නමක් නෙවෙයි.
    දැන් මායාවේ වේව් තියෙනවා කියලා දැන ගෙන මොකෑ කරන්න හදන්නේ? එහෙම මායාවේ තියෙන වේව්ස් ගැන දැනගත්තම උඹට නිවන් මග විවර වුනාද?
     
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    මේ මොන කුනුහරුපයක්ද ? මෙහෙම එකක් බුද්ධ වචනයේ නම් නෑ. සදගුරු වගේ හොරු නම් කියනව ඇති!

    ආනන්ද හාමුදුරුවොන්ට ඕන දෙයක් කියන්න පුලුවන්, හැබැයි ත්‍රිපිටකය කෝට් කරල පෙන්නන්න ඕනේ බුද්ධ වචනයේ තියෙනව නං.
    සමහර හාමුදුරුවරු වයසට යද්දි නොයෙක් දේවල් කියනවා. ආනන්ද හාමුදුරුවෝ බුද්ධවචනය සම්බන්දයෙන් ඔතෝරිටි එකක් තියෙන හාමුදුරු නමක් නෙවෙයි.
    දැන් මායාවේ වේව් තියෙනවා කියලා දැන ගෙන මොකෑ කරන්න හදන්නේ? එහෙම මායවේ තියෙන වේව්ස් ගැන දැනගත්තම උඹට නිවන් මග විවර වුනාද?
    Ow parama shunyay.
     

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    Ow parama shunyay.
    ඇත්තද? පරම ශුන්‍යයි නං මොකුත් නෑනේ? "නැත" කියන අන්තෙට වැටිලා දන්නෙම නැතුව! එහෙනං දැන් කිව්වේ එනර්ජි වේව්ස් තියෙනවා කියලා? You are completely ignorant on the basics of Buddhism. Your responses are incoherent and you fail to make any sense what so ever. I feel sorry for my self since I wasted my valuable time. Good luck with your soup of shivathwa, energy, waves and all other nonsenSU!
     

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    ඇත්තද? පරම ශුන්‍යයි නං මොකුත් නෑනේ? "නැත" කියන අන්තෙට වැටිලා දන්නෙම නැතුව! එහෙනං දැන් කිව්වේ එනර්ජි වේව්ස් තියෙනවා කියලා? You are completely ignorant on the basics of Buddhism. Your responses are incoherent and you fail to make any sense what so ever. I feel sorry for my self since I wasted my valuable time. Good luck with your soup of shivathwa, energy, waves and all other nonsenSU!
    Energy waves tiyenawa wage penawa apita pena mayawe.ubata oka terenne nane kivvata.ubata time waste wage terenne ego eka tiyena hinda.wedak nane buddagama denagattata?
     

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    Dekama study karata waradak nane?uba patisotha gami theruma dannawada kiyala ahuwane.man ahanwa uba shivathwa kiyana eke teruma dannawada kiyala.oya kiyana taram halluwata ganna deyak newe.


    Yeah Check again he goes beyond waves to say the shakthi is permanent.but says it doesn't exist but an universal law.The world comes to life out of it.
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    He says energy is eternal but not the material.. so as I said before, he is just saying the transition between two.. Off topic, but I have no problem with that in scientific point of view
     

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    He says energy is eternal but not the material.. so as I said before, he is just saying the transition between two.. Off topic, but I have no problem with that in scientific point of view
    So mchn if the energy is eternal what is it?
     

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    So mchn if the energy is eternal what is it?

    Didnt get it. What do you mean? are you asking what is energy?

    Okoma mayawak thamai.but mayawa athule owa tiyenawane ape mayawa thula pawathinawane reality ekak widiyata apita.ekai kiyanne.uba sadhguruge wachanayak allanan nahinna hadanawa.oya ananda theroth waves tiyenawa kivve.mayawata sapekshawa waves tiyenawa.eka terenne nedda

    Api me world eka interpret karanne ape sensors walata ena data walin misak..not experiencing the reality. This reality (or the real nature of the physical word, or the existence) was not Buddhas focus. His focus was the other side. The reality of the being who experiencing the external world (this is where the illusion happens). If someone understands that, he wont have a desire to research the existence or the reality of the physical world.
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    hari ban, niwan yannda thama okkoma kemathi. eth hamotama oka karanda puluwanda? bitter truth ekane. anika uba dannwada dan lord buddha deshanaya karala thiyana dewal okkoma A 2 Z api hithamu page 100 book ekkata print karoth books kiyak wage print karanda onada? buddha kityapu dewal categorize karala thiynawada????? * niwana gana *health gana * bussiness * universe mewage dewal ethakota kenek interest deyak kiyawala study karanda puluwane.

    physical lokaya gana hoyanna ona diyunu wenna.. dan isaac newton apple geediya oluwata watunama ei watune kiyala hewuuwa nattanm ethin lokaya mechara issarata enne ne.

    albert einstein kalin buddha speed of light eka gana kiwa...ei ethakota ape sri lankan kenekuta hoya gannda bari une?????? buddha apita cheat code ekak wage deela thiyanwane

    mata mekata uttrayak ona lord buddha 84th problem eka mokkda? ei randomly 84 kiyana number eka awe?????????????

    hari ban, niwan yannda thama okkoma kemathi. eth hamotama oka karanda puluwanda? bitter truth ekane. anika uba dannwada dan lord buddha deshanaya karala thiyana dewal okkoma A 2 Z api hithamu page 100 book ekkata print karoth books kiyak wage print karanda onada? buddha kityapu dewal categorize karala thiynawada????? * niwana gana *health gana * bussiness * universe mewage dewal ethakota kenek interest deyak kiyawala study karanda puluwane.

    physical lokaya gana hoyanna ona diyunu wenna.. dan isaac newton apple geediya oluwata watunama ei watune kiyala hewuuwa nattanm ethin lokaya mechara issarata enne ne.

    albert einstein kalin buddha speed of light eka gana kiwa...ei ethakota ape sri lankan kenekuta hoya gannda bari une?????? buddha apita cheat code ekak wage deela thiyanwane

    mata mekata uttrayak ona lord buddha 84th problem eka mokkda? ei randomly 84 kiyana number eka awe?????????????
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    buddha probability eka gana minis athhmayak lebima gana kiwa "kana kesbewa viya siduren ahasa belima"
    minsi athamyak lebime sambavithwa 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 chance ekak kiyla

    dan ethakota sri lankwe kenkuta mulin probability gana kiyala dennda bari une ei?????????????????????????????
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    hari ban, niwan yannda thama okkoma kemathi. eth hamotama oka karanda puluwanda? bitter truth ekane. anika uba dannwada dan lord buddha deshanaya karala thiyana dewal okkoma A 2 Z api hithamu page 100 book ekkata print karoth books kiyak wage print karanda onada? buddha kityapu dewal categorize karala thiynawada????? * niwana gana *health gana * bussiness * universe mewage dewal ethakota kenek interest deyak kiyawala study karanda puluwane.

    Buddhas bana is to become supreme arihatship and nirvana.. eke wena categories naa...only one intension... budda kiyapu dee gana adahasak ganna mulu tripitakaya kiyawanna oni naa...

    Okkotama niwan yanna bari bawa atta..but, okkoma baa kiyala hitiyoth kohomath baa tamai..

    physical lokaya gana hoyanna ona diyunu wenna.. dan isaac newton apple geediya oluwata watunama ei watune kiyala hewuuwa nattanm ethin lokaya mechara issarata enne ne.

    albert einstein kalin buddha speed of light eka gana kiwa...ei ethakota ape sri lankan kenekuta hoya gannda bari une?????? buddha apita cheat code ekak wage deela thiyanwane

    mata mekata uttrayak ona lord buddha 84th problem eka mokkda? ei randomly 84 kiyana number eka awe?????????????


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    buddha probability eka gana minis athhmayak lebima gana kiwa "kana kesbewa viya siduren ahasa belima"
    minsi athamyak lebime sambavithwa 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 chance ekak kiyla

    dan ethakota sri lankwe kenkuta mulin probability gana kiyala dennda bari une ei?????????????????????????????
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    Budda kiyapu dee (cheat code) hariyata aragatta aya arihat wela niwan dakala giya...ehema nathi una aya tamai lontha wewi taama inne mee sansaare..lol

    Final point eka mekai: kamathi kenekuta niwan yanna hari science patten higilla lokaya diyunu karagena hari inna pulwan, kisi awulak naa... but..science wala hari anit agam wala hari tiyena kaali budda dharshanayata daala wikurthi karana eka waradi...
     

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    Didnt get it. What do you mean? are you asking what is energy?



    Api me world eka interpret karanne ape sensors walata ena data walin misak..not experiencing the reality. This reality (or the real nature of the physical word, or the existence) was not Buddhas focus. His focus was the other side. The reality of the being who experiencing the external world (this is where the illusion happens). If someone understands that, he wont have a desire to research the existence or the reality of the physical world.
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    Onna oya point eka thama mchn.oya point eka realize karaganna widi 112 k tiyenawa.
     

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    Onna oya point eka thama mchn.oya point eka realize karaganna widi 112 k tiyenawa.

    Muchan, although they try to say buddhas way is one of them it is not. There enlightment (or realization) is different from what is in buddhism.

    I have studied Hinduism, Jainism and bible for some extent. I dont say I know everything but from what I have learnt:

    Hinduism has different levels of enlightment: the basic enlightment is that to realize the body is not the person (or the being). The soul is the person concept. The ultimate enlightment is that seeing the god (shiva, bhrama..) or getting out from the darkness (coz, you wont see them while you are in the darkness) by letting things go. From my understanding this will certainly help attaining brhama planes but thats it.

    In Buddhism there is no such thing as a continuous soul. It is all about understanding (realization, enlightment) the thought process and work on stopping the progression (nirvana).

    Any religion is based on soul (exist) and non-soul (non-exist) except Buddhism. Thats why it is called the middle path, not because of being between self indulgent or self-denial

    also, vipassana in buddhism goes up to 13 or 21 (cant remember exactly) steps. Jhana levels are in somewehere in the middle of these numbers. In Hinduism you dont go that far.

    Although, you say vipassana is just looking at the body. It has lot more than that.
     
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    Muchan, although they try to say buddhas way is one of them it is not. There enlightment (or realization) is different from what is in buddhism.

    I have studied Hinduism, Jainism and bible for some extent. I dont say I know everything but from what I have learnt:

    Hinduism has different levels of enlightment: the basic enlightment is that to realize the body is not the person (or the being). The soul is the person concept. The ultimate enlightment is that seeing the god (shiva, bhrama..) or getting out from the darkness (coz, you wont see them while you are in the darkness) by letting things go. From my understanding this will certainly help attaining brhama planes but thats it.

    In Buddhism there is no such thing as a continuous soul. It is all about understanding (realization, enlightment) the thought process and work on stopping the progression (nirvana).

    Any religion is based on soul (exist) and non-soul (non-exist) except Buddhism. Thats why it is called the middle path, not because of being between self indulgent or self-denial

    also, vipassana in buddhism goes up to 13 or 21 (cant remember exactly) steps. Jhana levels are in somewehere in the middle of these numbers. In Hinduism you dont go that far.

    Although, you say vipassana is just looking at the body. It has lot more than that.
    Ok i get it i can agree with you.But even though later hindus talk about an eternal soul the older ones talking about one consiousness which is very simmilar point to what ananda thero was describing.It's not about a soul but may be the last point of physical existance?
    Anyway do you agree with this monk or he's spreading utter nonscense?

     

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    Ok i get it i can agree with you.But even though later hindus talk about an eternal soul the older ones talking about one consiousness which is very simmilar point to what ananda thero was describing.It's not about a soul but may be the last point of physical existance?
    Anyway do you agree with this monk or he's spreading utter nonscense?


    There is no one consciousness concept in buddhism. Consciousness arises and decay (not the correct word, btw) depending on other factors. There is no one energy or conciseness carries the life. It is a stream that one triggers the rise of the next. Eternal energy doesnt mean eternal conciseness. Existence is essentially the maintaining this stream.

    I usually, dont speak against monks. but, personally I dont like what he says in the video. He is still trying to capture the outside illusion in the physical world side. Which is not wrong, but not the focus on buddas path. They are trying to proof the existence and non existence by physical things. You have to see it (not through senses) from the other side (in otherwords metal factors side).

    What buddha wanted us to see cant be seen logically, cos it cant be captured by the mind even. It is like you are trying to mimic the sensation/feeling of your nose by an eye. Which cant be done, even in any possible logical way. Same way, you will need to develop some mental factors, and those factors will capture what buddha wanted us to see. We have no ability to see that with our senses we have at the moment (including mind). Buddhas 8 fold path is all about how to develop these ability.
     

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    There is no one consciousness concept in buddhism. Consciousness arises and decay (not the correct word, btw) depending on other factors. There is no one energy or conciseness carries the life. It is a stream that one triggers the rise of the next. Eternal energy doesnt mean eternal conciseness. Existence is essentially the maintaining this stream.

    I usually, dont speak against monks. but, personally I dont like what he says in the video. He is still trying to capture the outside illusion in the physical world side. Which is not wrong, but not the focus on buddas path. They are trying to proof the existence and non existence by physical things. You have to see it (not through senses) from the other side (in otherwords metal factors side).

    What buddha wanted us to see cant be seen logically, cos it cant be captured by the mind even. It is like you are trying to mimic the sensation/feeling of your nose by an eye. Which cant be done, even in any possible logical way. Same way, you will need to develop some mental factors, and those factors will capture what buddha wanted us to see. We have no ability to see that with our senses we have at the moment (including mind). Buddhas 8 fold path is all about how to develop these ability.
    Ok so one consiousness doesn't exist as one but arises and fall like a stream and goes on.Ok so you mean logical mind cannot capture it.Is there any use trying to logicaly grasp it at to the last point as these above video monk or is it pointless?Can we use the logical mind anzying to get out of the mind or that also is pointless?
     

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    Ok so one consiousness doesn't exist as one but arises and fall like a stream and goes on.Ok so you mean logical mind cannot capture it.Is there any use trying to logicaly grasp it at to the last point as these above video monk or is it pointless?Can we use the logical mind anzying to get out of the mind or that also is pointless?

    Yes, the logical mind cant grasp it. But one can use logical mind to develop the facilities which can grasp it as well as to figure out what to look for.

    Buddha is showing how to develop the necessary tools to grasp it and also showing what to look for. But he cant make us see or feel it. We have to see/feel it on our own. Its like a doctor cant make a blind person see, but he can certainly fix the eye so the person can see by himself. (just an example, dont take hard)

    Once someone started seeing it through the new facility he will realize what he was feeling though regular sensors are not the reality. Thats the enlightment.
     

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    Yes, the logical mind cant grasp it. But one can use logical mind to develop the facilities which can grasp it as well as to figure out what to look for.

    Buddha is showing how to develop the necessary tools to grasp it and also showing what to look for. But he cant make us see or feel it. We have to see/feel it on our own. Its like a doctor cant make a blind person see, but he can certainly fix the eye so the person can see by himself. (just an example, dont take hard)

    Once someone started seeing it through the new facility he will realize what he was feeling though regular sensors are not the reality. Thats the enlightment.
    Hmm Now i'm confused.What is that new facility which we can realize enlightment.beyong ordinary sensors and logical mind what facility exist?who realize the enlightment?
     

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    Hmm Now i'm confused.What is that new facility which we can realize enlightment.beyong ordinary sensors and logical mind what facility exist?who realize the enlightment?

    I know, buddhism is not what we think from the surface. But, when you go deeper and deeper you understand things little by little.

    These faculties are not something new. They are in our 52 mental factors, but not developed since we havent trained them. For example, our feeling mental factor is already developed thats why we can feel (not the superficial feeling, but the mind one). Perception is also the same.

    When someone does the meditation at the beginning his mind goes here and there. He doesnt even realize it. But when he continues on meditation at some point (this gradual) he feels as soon as his mind goes away, becuase he has developed a special mental factor to capture it. It cant be captured by anything else. There are some some similar factors will be developed in the 8 fold parth and the final fill be the wisdom.

    One can do enlightment fast or slow solely depends on the development of these special factors.

    The way mind works is amazing and fascinating. No, other religion (from what I studied) or science could ever go into this depth.