Sadhguru බෞද්ධාගම විකුර්ති කරලා කියනවා

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    Seems like the ego has manifested into a even bigger one with all the knowledge and assumptions you got?


    So mchn my quection is can't you not leave a trigger for the next with the understanding of nature of energy mechanism?
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    I would say this is a sankara process. Energy is just the medium.

    One will need to see this process first before stopping it. The person who sees/feels it thought the wisdom is the "sowan" being.

    We talked about the process by logics so far. But, this "sowan" will see/feel/realize it by himself and then work on training not igniting the thought process. He attains arihatship once he completed it.
     

    greenthunder

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    Seems like the ego has manifested into a even bigger one with all the knowledge and assumptions you got?
    You surely cant read. let alone not assuming. Maybe its my ego. Maybe you are a new age guru hack. May be, just maybe okay, Sadhu Guru is a Pop Advaita teacher:(. Who knows, I surely don't :lol: Only thing I know is that the path and the teaching I've selected for my self is geared toward reducing Prapanca, thus suffering. This I know for myself.

    So your teaching or what ever you are espousing is irrelevant to me. Furthermore you are not the type of person I would like to have a discussion with.
     
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    Emios

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    You surely cant read. let alone not assuming. Maybe its my ego. Maybe you are a new age guru hack. May be, just maybe okay, Sadhu Guru is a Pop Advaita teacher:(. Who knows, I surely don't :lol: Only thing I know is that the path and the teaching I've selected for my self is geared toward reducing Prapanca, thus suffering. This I know for myself.

    So your teaching or what ever you are espousing is irrelevant to me. Furthermore you are not the type of person I would like to have a discussion with.
    Furthermore you are not the type of person I would like to have a discussion with.

    because I distory you your mind doesn't like it.That's why:P

    I would say this is a sankara process. Energy is just the medium.

    One will need to see this process first before stopping it. The person who sees/feels it thought the wisdom is the "sowan" being.

    We talked about the process by logics so far. But, this "sowan" will see/feel/realize it by himself and then work on training not igniting the thought process. He attains arihatship once he completed it.
    Ok mchn so what if someone see this process through the mechanism of energy?
    ------ Post added on Jul 22, 2021 at 11:00 AM
     

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    dude don't get angry i'm trying to build a good argument.That's all.ඇත, නැත කියන අන්ත දෙකම බුදු හාමුදුරුවෝ අතැරියා ithin ban ekane shunya kiyanne,empty

    හරි වෙහෙසයි උඹලා වගේ එවුන් එක්ක ඩිස්කශන්!
    e argue karala newe mahansi ube hadagatta mano loka kadenawata athi akamatta.
    Wow!
    ගොන් වහන්ස! උඹ Empty කියන කොටම කලින් Empty නොවු දෙයක් දැන් Empty කියන එක පැනවිලා ඉවරයි! උඹට ඒක තේරෙනවද මම දන්නේ නෑ. ඔය කියන්නේ "නැත කියන අන්තය" ම තමයි. යමක් නැත කියන්න බැරි එක හේතුවක් ඒක!

    බුදු දහමේ එන ශුන්‍යතව මොකද්ද? ඒකත් මම කියල දෙන්නම්! හදාගත්ත මනෝ ලෝකෙක කඹ දාහක් මැද්දේ පැටලිලා හිරවෙලා දඟලන උබ ගැන අනුකම්පාවෙන් ඒකත් කරන්නම්.

    "ධාතු මත්තකෝ, නිස්සත්තෝ, නිජ්ජීවෝ , සුඤ්ඤෝ"
    මෙය ධාතු මාත්‍රයක් පමණය. සත්වයෙක් නොවේ. ජීවයක්ද නොවේ. සුන්‍ය දෙයකි. සත්ත්වයෙක්, පුද්ගලයෙක්, ජීවයක් නොවන අනියත වු ධර්මතාවයකි.

    උඹට සදගුරාගෙන් වත් සමන්ත බඩ්ඩගෙන් වත් බුදුබණ ලැබෙන්නෙත් නෑ, නිවනට යන මගක් ලැබෙන්නෙත් නෑ. ! මහන්සිවෙලා කියවලා, හරි හමන් හාමුදුරු කෙනෙක්ගෙන් බණ අහල, ඩිස්කස් කරලා ඉගෙන ගනිං.
     
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    Furthermore you are not the type of person I would like to have a discussion with.

    because I distory you your mind doesn't like it.That's why:P


    See dude, If you want to have a worthwhile discussion you gotta stop assuming what other people are thinking or feeling and read what they have written carefully. Go slow next time. Read twice or thrice before replying:sorry:
    The reason I am not interested in talking with you is that, the doctrine that you are trying to preach leads to accumulation of Prapanca. I think you do not know what "Prapanca" is. Thats why you failed to grasp the meaning of my previous reply.
     
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    Emios

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    Wow!
    ගොන් වහන්ස! උඹ Empty කියන කොටම කලින් Empty නොවු දෙයක් දැන් Empty කියන එක පැනවිලා ඉවරයි! උඹට ඒක තේරෙනවද මම දන්නේ නෑ. ඔය කියන්නේ "නැත කියන අන්තය" ම තමයි. යමක් නැත කියන්න බැරි එක හේතුවක් ඒක!

    බුදු දහමේ එන ශුන්‍යතව මොකද්ද? ඒකත් මම කියල දෙන්නම්! හදාගත්ත මනෝ ලෝකෙක කඹ දාහක් මැද්දේ පැටලිලා හිරවෙලා දඟලන උබ ගැන අනුකම්පාවෙන් ඒකත් කරන්නම්.

    "ධාතු මත්තකෝ, නිස්සත්තෝ, නිජ්ජීවෝ , සුඤ්ඤෝ"
    මෙය ධාතු මාත්‍රයක් පමණය. සත්වයෙක් නොවේ. ජීවයක්ද නොවේ. සුන්‍ය දෙයකි. සත්ත්වයෙක්, පුද්ගලයෙක්, ජීවයක් නොවන අනියත වු ධර්මතාවයකි.

    උඹට සදගුරාගෙන් වත් සමන්ත බඩ්ඩගෙන් වත් බුදුබණ ලැබෙන්නෙත් නෑ, නිවනට යන මගක් ලැබෙන්නෙත් නෑ. ! මහන්සිවෙලා කියවලා, හරි හමන් හාමුදුරු කෙනෙක්ගෙන් බණ අහල, ඩිස්කස් කරලා ඉගෙන ගනිං.
    Nono empty kivve empty kiyala deyak tiyena adahasin newe.ethanin niroday kiyana adahasin.dan ubama kiyananwa aye සුන්‍ය දෙයකි kiyala
     

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    Furthermore you are not the type of person I would like to have a discussion with.

    because I distory you your mind doesn't like it.That's why:P


    Ok mchn so what if someone see this process through the mechanism of energy?
    ------ Post added on Jul 22, 2021 at 11:00 AM

    I dont know how it is seen though wisdom. (coz, i dont think I am sowan..lol).... but as I said before any kind of energy related detection can only go upto brain level (like alpha, beta waves)..
     

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    See dude, If you want to have a worthwhile discussion you gotta stop assuming what other people are thinking or feeling and read what they have written carefully. Go slow next time. Read twice or thrice before replying:sorry:
    The reason I am not interested in talking with you is that, the doctrine that you are trying to preach leads to accumulation of Prapanca. I think you do not know what "Prapanca" is. Thats why you failed to grasp the meaning of my previous reply.
    Buy you are not interested means in someway your mind is affected by me.If mind is not affected you can keep going isn't it.sorry if i'm ruining your day :P
     

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    Nono empty kivve empty kiyala deyak tiyena adahasin newe.ethanin niroday kiyana adahasin.
    Yeah right! :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: ඒ කියන්නේ උඹට ඒක තේරෙන්නෙත් නෑ... නොතේරුනාට පිලිගන්න කැමතිත් නෑ, .. ලියන ඒවා කියවන පාටකුත් නෑ..
    See dude, If you want to have a worthwhile discussion you gotta stop assuming what other people are thinking or feeling and read what they have written carefully. Go slow next time. Read twice or thrice before replying:sorry:
    The reason I am not interested in talking with you is that, the doctrine that you are trying to preach leads to accumulation of Prapanca. I think you do not know what "Prapanca" is. Thats why you failed to grasp the meaning of my previous reply.
    :yes::yes::yes:
     

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    Yeah right! :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: ඒ කියන්නේ උඹට ඒක තේරෙන්නෙත් නෑ... නොතේරුනාට පිලිගන්න කැමතිත් නෑ, .. ලියන ඒවා කියවන පාටකුත් නෑ..

    :yes::yes::yes:
    ai bola dan uba hena gathawak liyala ubama kivve shunyay kiyala ekai man ahuwe:oo:

    I dont know how it is seen though wisdom. (coz, i dont think I am sowan..lol).... but as I said before any kind of energy related detection can only go upto brain level (like alpha, beta waves)..
    No mchn all has a energy basis in it.Beyond alpha beta frame,that is only what we can see.The mental factors beyond you are talking about are still based on energy.If any factor remains it has a boundary.Which again a sort of wave
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    ai bola dan uba hena gathawak liyala ubama kivve shunyay kiyala ekai man ahuwe:oo:
    Wow man! you really have a problem! either you have attention -deficit disorder or you really cant read and grasp the meaning:shocked:
    ආයි හොඳට කියවපං. ඒකේ නිකං සුන්‍යයි කිව්වේ නෑ! කුමන අර්තයෙන් සුන්‍යවේද කියල පැහැදිලි කරල තියෙන්නේ. උඹට ඒකවත් තේරෙන්නේ නෑ.
    ඉතින් කොහෙද බං උඹට Empty කියන එකේ පැරඩොක්ස් එක තේරෙන්නේ?
     

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    Wow man! you really have a problem! either you have attention -deficit disorder or you really cant read and grasp the meaning:shocked:
    ආයි හොඳට කියවපං. ඒකේ නිකං සුන්‍යයි කිව්වේ නෑ! කුමන අර්තයෙන් සුන්‍යවේද කියල පැහැදිලි කරල තියෙන්නේ. උඹට ඒකවත් තේරෙන්නේ නෑ.
    ඉතින් කොහෙද බං උඹට Empty කියන එකේ පැරඩොක්ස් එක තේරෙන්නේ?
    ubata man kiyana eka terenne nane.man kivveth eka thama.empty kiyala anthayak gena hithuwe ne.uba kiyana dema thama man kivveth.uba dan kivve sunyay kiyala ube kiyana widyata,man empty kiyana wachane kivveth uba kiyana widiyata.
     

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    Buy you are not interested means in someway your mind is affected by me.If mind is not affected you can keep going isn't it.sorry if i'm ruining your day :P
    Of course it's going to affect my mind. I guess that's the whole point of two people communicating with each other. Hell, even sound of a bird is going to affect my mind.

    Problem is you are assuming "the way" it's affecting me. For example,

    When a child asks an adult to play a game with them, that adult might go along and play with them out of sheer compassion or love. Or they might reject the request because they have something better to do like actually earning a wage and puting food on the table. Or said adult might not "feel like it" and reject the request.

    There could be plethora of reasons why that particular adult might or might not go along with the request. Do you see where I am going with this. :lol:

    If you want to have a worthwhile discussion, define "terms" involved, scope of the discussion and come to term with that not everybody will want to play along.

    My alloted time for you is up...
     
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    ubata man kiyana eka terenne nane.man kivveth eka thama.empty kiyala anthayak gena hithuwe ne.uba kiyana dema thama man kivveth.uba dan kivve sunyay kiyala ube kiyana widyata,man empty kiyana wachane kivveth uba kiyana widiyata.
    යකෝ! උඹ කොහෙද මම කියන දේම කිව්ව වෙන්නේ, උබ එක තැනක ලියනව "එතනින් නිරෝදයි කියන අදහසින් එම්ටිලු",
    අනේ උඹලා වගේ චරිත!
    අනුන්ගේ ඊගෝ එක ගැන ටෝක්ස් දෙන්න කලින් හම්බල් වෙයං දන්නේ නැති දෙයක් තෙරෙන්නේ නැති දෙයක් කිව්වම පිලිගන්න!
     

    Emios

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    යකෝ! උඹ කොහෙද මම කියන දේම කිව්ව වෙන්නේ, උබ එක තැනක ලියනව "එතනින් නිරෝදයි කියන අදහසින් එම්ටිලු",
    අනේ උඹලා වගේ චරිත!
    අනුන්ගේ ඊගෝ එක ගැන ටෝක්ස් දෙන්න කලින් හම්බල් වෙයං දන්නේ නැති දෙයක් තෙරෙන්නේ නැති දෙයක් කිව්වම පිලිගන්න!
    I accept you accept too then.:P ubata sunya wachane danna be ehenan mata empty dannath be.mokada ubata man empty kiyana eka terenne ne.uba eka gannema anith patthata.

    Of course it's going to affect my mind. I guess that's the whole point of two people communicating with each other. Hell, even sound of a bird is going to affect my mind.

    Problem is you are assuming "the way" it's affecting me. For example,

    When a child asks an adult to play a game with them, that adult might go along and play with them out of sheer compassion or love. Or they might reject the request because they have something better to do like actually earning a wage and puting food on the table. Or said adult might not "feel like it" and reject the request.

    There could be plethora of reasons why that particular adult might or might not go along with the request. Do you see where I am going with this. :lol:

    If you want to have a worthwhile discussion, define "terms" involved, scope of the discussion and come to term with that not everybody will want to play along.

    My alloted time for you is up...
    I didn't assume you said you are not interested.I placed a placebo to see how you reply.that's all and i respect it:P
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    ai bola dan uba hena gathawak liyala ubama kivve shunyay kiyala ekai man ahuwe:oo:


    No mchn all has a energy basis in it.Beyond alpha beta frame,that is only what we can see.The mental factors beyond you are talking about are still based on energy.If any factor remains it has a boundary.Which again a sort of wave
    ------ Post added on Jul 22, 2021 at 11:24 AM

    From what I think: all the perceptive energy interactions are visible in the body/brain level. I know aura machine shows anger, greed stuff of the mind (as they say). But I think we do not see the mind, we see the effects on the body/brain which are within our perceptive spectrum.

    I do not know what form of energy (again this is a logical assumption) interactions are involved at factor levels, trying to find it is like trying to find something that you dont even know what you are trying to find IMO.

    Even if such kind of detection exists, the results are perceived by our faulty sensors. It is like you wear colored glasses and use a camera to get the real picture without looking at the object though your glasses. Then you see the picture produced by the camera again though your glasses.

    gonna go to bed, will catch you tomorrow! gn8.
     

    Emios

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    From what I think: all the perceptive energy interactions are visible in the body/brain level. I know aura machine shows anger, greed stuff of the mind (as they say). But I think we do not see the mind, we see the effects on the body/brain which are within our perceptive spectrum.

    I do not know what form of energy (again this is a logical assumption) interactions are involved at factor levels, trying to find it is like trying to find something that you dont even know what you are trying to find IMO.

    Even if such kind of detection exists, the results are perceived by our faulty sensors. It is like you wear colored glasses and use a camera to get the real picture without looking at the object though your glasses. Then you see the picture produced by the camera again though your glasses.

    gonna go to bed, will catch you tomorrow! gn8.
    That i'm gonna agree with.ok gnit cya
     

    ewijesekara

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    I accept you accept too then.:P ubata sunya wachane danna be ehenan mata empty dannath be.mokada ubata man empty kiyana eka terenne ne.uba eka gannema anith patthata.
    උඹ රට ගොනෙක්, ඒ මදිවට ඒ ගොන්කමටත් එහා යන උද්දච්ච කම! ඒ ගොන්කම යවාගන්න උදව් කරන්න එන උන්ටත් "හිස් තර්ක" දාල "මම පොර" කියල කියාගන්නත් උඹට මාර ආසාවක් තියෙන්නේ. උඹලා වගේ උන්ට නම් කොහොමත් මේ ධර්මය ඉගෙන ගන්න බෑ. ඒ නිසා ඔය එනර්ජි එකෙන් "ගොඩයවන" බඩ්ඩ, සදගුරු වගේ හොරෙක් ගාවටම සෙට් වෙලා ටෝක්ස් දිදී හිටපන්! :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
     

    Emios

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    උඹ රට ගොනෙක්, ඒ මදිවට ඒ ගොන්කමටත් එහා යන උද්දච්ච කම! ඒ ගොන්කම යවාගන්න උදව් කරන්න එන උන්ටත් "හිස් තර්ක" දාල "මම පොර" කියල කියාගන්නත් උඹට මාර ආසාවක් තියෙන්නේ. උඹලා වගේ උන්ට නම් කොහොමත් මේ ධර්මය ඉගෙන ගන්න බෑ. ඒ නිසා ඔය එනර්ජි එකෙන් "ගොඩයවන" බඩ්ඩ, සදගුරු වගේ හොරෙක් ගාවටම සෙට් වෙලා ටෝක්ස් දිදී හිටපන්! :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
    now you assume things.And did buddha taught you to keep going on saying badda?