The Status of Women in Islam

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[urasika]

http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=88584&highlight=killed+girl

ethokota meka Status thiyaganna udaw karana ekakda ?

 

[gazaly]

http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=88584&highlight=killed+girl

ethokota meka Status thiyaganna udaw karana ekakda ?

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[sri_lion]

yeah its ok, thought so you must b busy..

anways i guess its time for my conclusion abt our lil discussion.

- i was talking about punishment to the deserving NOT Punishing The innocent
- i was trying to argue my point that implementing strict punishments to the deserving should decrease crime rates. thats where saudi came and it wasnt about their law or system

- and still i disagree with you about about your rehab thing
not sure you talking about innocents getting punished or rehabing the real criminals whose intention real (if you say you cant prove it, the you suggesting we cannot implement any sort of punishment at all without knowing, even witnesses can be wrong right) though...

-also you argued that we cannot implement such punishment inside a democratic framework.USA,Japan,Singapore are implementing them right??

anyways thats pretty much all i have tell, i guess ive put my points clearly for anyone to read and understand.and just as i do you have the right to say what you thing is correct so no prob with that..

Ok I guess I'll sum up too then...

- If someone is already innocent then there's no need to punish! So punishment must always should be for those who deserve it.. and how do you come to that conclusion plays a big part!!!

- Saudi has a working / practical system to reduce crime - Agreed!

- But that system cannot be implemented in our system because we do live in a democratic system.. the base/foundation of such a system is human rights.. and criminal is human too, thus he also have rights!

- Evidently Saudi system does not provide a fair platform, fair trials to all the people so their system and how they decide the criminal is very much questionable!!!

- Rehab is just a part of a system, it is not the only thing the aim is to take a criminal make him a law abiding citizen and put back to the society rather than chopping a hand or leg of him... and ofcourse there were incidents that this system worked and did not worked.. but if it did not the criminal will go through the whole procedure over and over again!

- USA, Singapore, Japan... USA has more sophisticated system than us ofcourse and no they dont have a mixed system of what you are mentioning and they have a more sophisticated rehab system than us...criminals are to attend counseling sessions, community services, prison call centers etc.. etc.. as a part of rehab!!!

- Singapore also has similar sort of programs and mind you Singapore also have very low crime rate in the country.. although they do punish people with stick but they never chop off people's arms and legs.... because it doesn't grow back Japan I'm not so sure... but never heard such cruel punishment from them either!

 

[Sujakshan]

thx 4 da info buddy