The Truth Part 1 !!!!! Muhammed (PBUH) was prophesized

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Wal Bada said:
ROFLMAO (Rolling On Floor Laughing My Ass Off) So Hindus created Hinduism?

MY DEAR BROTHER HINDUISM IS A RELIGIOUS TRADITION THAT ORIGINATED IN THE INDIAN SUBCONTINENT. HINDUISM IS OFTEN REFERRED TO AS SANĀTANA DHARMA (सनातन धर्म) BY ITS PRACTITIONERS, A SANSKRIT PHRASE MEANING "THE ETERNAL LAW
HINDŪ IS THE PERSIAN NAME OF THE INDUS RIVER. SINCE THE END OF THE 18TH CENTURY THE WORD HAS BEEN USED AS AN UMBRELLA TERM FOR MOST OF THE RELIGIOUS, SPIRITUAL, AND PHILOSOPHICAL TRADITIONS OF THE SUB-CONTINENT, EXCLUDING THE DISTINCT RELIGIONS OF SIKHISM, BUDDHISM, AND JAINISM.
THE TERM HINDU WAS INTRODUCED TO THE ENGLISH. IT GENERALLY DENOTES THE RELIGIOUS, PHILOSOPHICAL, AND CULTURAL TRADITIONS NATIVE TO INDIA.
 

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Wal Bada said:
That is said in Quran. Quran <> Truth for most of the people that were suposed to be created by Allah. So the creation is stupid, so is the creator.

MY DEAR BROTHER THE GLORIOUS AL QURAN DOES SAY THAT MANKIND, JIN, ALL THE LIVING BEINGS, ANGLES, SHAITHAN, THIS UNIVERS, HEAVENS, HELLS AND BEYOND THAT WAS CREATED BY ONE AND ONLY GOD….
BUT I CAN’T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU ARE SAYING THAT CREATION IS STUPID AND SO IS THE CREATOR ????????? CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY YOU SAID SO ???
 

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Wal Bada said:
Where are the evidence beside Quran? We have evidence when christianity began beside Bible, or when Buddhism began beside Tipitaka. You only claim.

DEAR BROTHER I DON’T UNDERSTAND FOR WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR EVIDENCE. IF YOU DON’T MIND CAN YOU TYPE YOUR QUESTION MORE CLEARLY SO AS TO UNDERSTAND BY ME AND OTHER EK MEMBERS ???? I WANT TO CLEAR ALL YOUR DOUBTS AS MUCH AS I CAN …….. WAITING FOR YOUR QUEZ..
 

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Wal Bada said:
Another fucking joke. Who created this "SHAITHAN/EVIL"? Isn't it Allah him self? If he'somnipotent couldn't he see that his creation is going to misled mankind? Or couldn't Allah see it before hand? In latter case he's not omnipotent. In former if he created shaithan with the knowledge that it's going to mislead mankind, Allah is stupid.

BROTHER THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT AND WISE QUESTION THIS WAS TROUBLING ME FOR A LONG TIME WHEN I WAS SEARCHING FOR THE TRUTH THOSE DAYS. BUT BROTHER PLEASE DON’T USE FILTHY/VULGAR/BAD/NAUGHTY WORDS IN YOU RESPECTIVE QUESTION AND PLEASE DON’T INSULT ANY MEMBERS IN THIS THREAD. CHECK THE ANSWER BELOW.
IN ISLAM ALLAH CREATED THREE INTELLIGENT RACES: ANGELS, JINNS AND HUMANS, OF WHICH THE LATTER TWO HAVE BEEN GRANTED 'FREE WILL' TO CHOOSE BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL.SHAITHAN WAS OF THE JINN RACE (A SUPERNATURAL EQUIVALENT TO MAN) AND WAS A DEVOTED SERVANT OF ALLAH. HE ATTAINED A VERY HIGH STATUS AND WAS BROUGHT CLOSE WITH THE ANGELS. ALLAH KNEW SHAITHAN HARBOURED ILL INTENTIONS, HOWEVER, AND THIS WAS THE REASON FOR HIS NAME, IBLIS (MEANING "DESPERATE").
THE ANGELS DO NOT HAVE FREE WILL AND SIMPLY DO NOT SIN BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT GRANTED THE FREEDOM BY GOD TO DISOBEY. WHEN ALLAH CREATED ADAM THE FIRST HUMAN, HE COMMANDED ALL THE ANGELS AND JINN TO PROSTRATE TO HIM AS WAS TERMED "THE BEST OF CREATION". ALL THE ANGELS AND JINN DID SO, EXCEPT IBLIS, WHO REFUSED TO OBEY.
AND WE CREATED YOU (HUMANS), THEN FASHIONED YOU, THEN TOLD THE ANGELS: FALL YE PROSTRATE BEFORE ADAM! AND THEY FELL PROSTRATE, ALL SAVE IBLIS, WHO WAS NOT OF THOSE WHO MADE PROSTRATION. HE (ALLAH) SAID: "WHAT HINDERED THEE THAT THOU DIDST NOT FALL PROSTRATE WHEN I BADE THEE?" (IBLIS) SAID: "I AM BETTER THAN HIM. THOU CREATEDST ME OF FIRE WHILE HIM THOU DIDST CREATE OF MUD". QUR'AN 7:11-12
IBLIS WAS PROUD AND ARROGANT AND CONSIDERED HIMSELF SUPERIOR TO ADAM, SINCE ADAM WAS MADE FROM CLAY AND IBLIS WAS CREATED FROM SMOKELESS FIRE. FOR THIS ACT OF DISOBEDIENCE, ALLAH CURSED HIM TO HELL FOR ETERNITY, BUT GAVE HIM RESPITE UNTIL THE DAY OF JUDGMENT, AFTER IBLIS REQUESTED IT. IBLIS OBTAINED PERMISSION FROM ALLAH AND VOWED THAT HE WOULD USE THIS TIME TO LEAD ALL HUMAN MEN AND WOMEN ASTRAY TO HELL AS A WAY OF REVENGE AGAINST THEM. BY REFUSING TO OBEY GOD’S ORDER HE WAS THROWN OUT OF PARADISE AND THEREAFTER HE WAS CALLED “SHAITAN”
HE SAID: THEN GO DOWN HENCE! IT IS NOT FOR THEE TO SHOW PRIDE HERE, SO GO FORTH! LO! THOU ART OF THOSE DEGRADED. HE SAID: REPRIEVE ME TILL THE DAY (OF JUDGEMENT) WHEN THEY ARE RAISED (FROM THE DEAD). HE SAID: LO! THOU ART OF THOSE REPRIEVED. HE SAID: NOW, BECAUSE THOU HAST SENT ME ASTRAY, VERILY I SHALL LURK IN AMBUSH FOR THEM ON THY RIGHT PATH. THEN I SHALL COME UPON THEM FROM BEFORE THEM AND FROM BEHIND THEM AND FROM THEIR RIGHT HANDS AND FROM THEIR LEFT HANDS, AND THOU WILT NOT FIND MOST OF THEM BEHOLDEN (UNTO THEE). HE SAID: GO FORTH FROM HENCE, DEGRADED, BANISHED. AS FOR SUCH OF THEM AS FOLLOW THEE, SURELY I WILL FILL HELL WITH ALL OF YOU. QUR'AN 7:14-18
ALTHOUGH ALLAH GRANTS THE REQUEST, HE ALSO WARNS THE SHAYĀN THAT HE WOULD HAVE NO AUTHORITY OVER HIS SINCERE "ABD", OR "DEVOTED SERVANTS".
LO (OH SHAYTAN)! MY (FAITHFUL) BONDMEN - OVER THEM THOU HAST NO POWER, AND THY LORD SUFFICETH AS (THEIR) GUARDIAN. QUR'AN 17:65
 

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Wal Bada said:
Acceptance of truth = Reverting to Islam. If there is another way, just mention.

CHECK THIS HOLY QUR’ANIC VERSES:

“THERE SHOULD BE NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION” (SURAH AL-BAQARAH 2:256)


THE RESULT IS IN THE HAND OF GOD
 

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Wal Bada said:
Religous freedom has never been welcomed in Quran. Is it?

BROTHER YOU ARE WRONG AL QUR'AN SAYS....NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION/WAY OF LIFE.

“THERE SHOULD BE NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION” (SURAH AL-BAQARAH 2:256)

AND, WE AS MUSLIMS ARE ORDERED TO BE NICE TO PEOPLE OF DIFFERENT RELIGION AS THE QURAN SAY:
“DO NOT ABUSE THE GODS OF OTHER RELIGIONS OR THEIR PROPHETS AND RELIGIOUS MEN, LEST THEY SHOULD ABUSE YOUR GOD OR PROPHET OR YOUR RELIGIOUS MEN.”


CHECK THIS OUT :
HTTP://WWW.ELAKIRI.COM/FORUM/SHOWTHREAD.PHP?P=2950426#POST2950426


YOU CAN FIND RELIGIOUSE FREEDOM IN MOST OF THE ISLAMIC COUNTRIES FOR EXAMPLE UNITED ARAB EMIRATES AND MALAYSIA I HOPE THIS WILL FULLFILL YOUR REQUIRMENT.
 

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I suppose that's why the UAE will welcome the construction of temples, churches, Sinagogues or Kovils in their land, with arms wide open? :D
 

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nadeeshaF said:
I suppose that's why the UAE will welcome the construction of temples, churches, Sinagogues or Kovils in their land, with arms wide open? :D

nadeeshaF I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS YOUR ATTITUDE TOWARDS ME AND ISLAM BUT YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT I'M A MODERATE MUSLIM I'M NOT PARISING ARABS. PERSONALY I'M SICK OF ARABS....

THERE ARE BIG BIG CHURCHES IN UAE PERSONALY I'VE VISITED THERE

WHEN IT COMES TO TEMPLES AND KOVILS THEY DON'T ACCEPT BECOZ WHEN WE ARGUE WITH THERE LOCAL AUTHORITIES AND RELIGIOUS SCHOLARS REGARDING THIS MATTER THEY SAY IT IS NOT NECCESARY FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO GIVE APPROVAL FOR CONSTRUCTING TEMPLES AND KOVILS BECOZ HINDUS AND BUDDHIST ARE NOT CITIZENS OF THERE COUNTRY THEY ARE ONLY EXPATS..

WHAT EVER THERE ARGUEMENT I PERSONALY WILLING TO SAY THEY SOULD GIVE PERMISSION TO PUT UP THERE RELIGIOUS CENTERS WHETHER IT IS UAE OR SAUDI THERE SHOULD BE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM IN EVERY COUNTRY..... ISLAM DOES NOT BLOCK THE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM. BECOZ OF SOME DUMB ARABS DON'T MISUNDERSTAND ISLAM.

IF YOU ARE THERE TO FIGHT FOR YOUR RELIGIOUS FREEDOM I'M THERE WITH YOU FOR FIGHT FOR YOU RELIGIOUS FREEDOM WITH A TRUE INTENTION ..... THESE ARE NOT MERE WORDS
 
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madurax86 said:
please refer to this site its a debaters site and he says that he'd take the site down if anything in it is proven wrong, its on till 2005

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/Prasadh60104.htm

ha ha ha ha :lol: :lol: :lol:

the same old story (crap) of ali sina ....... dear brother please check below very very very very few websits which are refuting your big Big BIG ali zina's faithfrreedom.com

http://www.call-to-monotheism.com/refuting_faithfreedom_orghttp://www.call-to-monotheism.com/refuting_faithfreedom_org
http://www.examinethetruth.com/ahmed_response1.htm
http://muslim-responses.com/Apostacy...and_Terrorism_
http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19076
http://answering-christianity.com/sami_zaatri/alisina_intro.htm
http://answering-ff.blogspot.com/2008/12/refutation-of-christian-polemics.html
http://forum.bismikaallahuma.org/archive/index.php/t-4544.html
http://www.islamic-life.com/forums/faithfreedom-wikiislam/refuting-ali-sina-aisha-child-wife-muhammad-307.html

there are many scholars of Islam and many websites / forums refute him i'm also waiting till he fullfill his promises a prize of $50,000 and removing the website ....... hmm not yet happen after all this refutation let's wait see what is his new jestification :P