TO ALL THE ISLAM EXTREMISTS POSTING ABOUT CHRISTIANITY

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    ok for the most part the threads in elakiri has been awesome and very intresting to read barring a few exceptions. ive been following the recent ones posted on the 'religious' section and i have to say the muslim guys ( some of them) needs to GET A LIFE. :P:P

    Fact is MUSLIMS HATE christians. the Quran explicitly calls us christians infidels and dogs so i understand the hatred shown by this guys. :(:(

    BUT please stop posting threads on elakiri regarding christianity because the sole purpose of the threads u guys post is to DISS our religion. maybe allah will reward you for that :P LOL but hey while your here learn to show some respect because at the moment you guys are just showing how disrespectful and lame a musilm could be ( dont agree? just see the threads posted by the user ibnav ) :):)

    and the next point is about the stuff you actually post

    majority of the threads the muslim extremists have posted on christianity is
    well WRONG. the scripture has obviously been misinterpreted and misquoted
    to give a false impression on christianity. and yes im ready to prove it but the majority of muslims iv argued with doesnt seem to have a brain and i think its no different with the ones on elakiri.:lol::lol:

    and finally you guys have copy pasted everything from some idiot's website or uv been listening to ZAKIR :p the stuff you have posted shows u have no KNOWLEDGE ON CHRISTIANITY AT ALL but still you talk as if you are the pope :lol::lol:


    SOOO FINALLY MY MESSAGE TO THE MUSLIMS

    I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH YOU GUYS TRYING TO LET PEOPLE KNWO ABOUT YOUR BELIEFS. DO IT I DONT CARE. BUT PLEASE STOP ALL THIS NONSENSE
    SPREAD YOUR RELIGION RESPECT OTHERS. CAUSE AT THE MOMENT YOU ARE DOING NOTHING FOR YOUR RELIGION :) :)
     

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    Islamic Apologists
    Apologists for Islam have defended the Quran using rationalist and empiricist arguments, and using cosmological arguments in an attempt to prove God's existence. Islamic apologists have also challenged both Jewish and Christian beliefs. The late South African Islamic apologist, Ahmed Deedat, was a prolific popular writer who debated Christian evangelists by arguing over discrepancies in the Bible, and claiming the Gospel of Barnabas is the only authentic record of Jesus' life.


    Why Muslims act like this ?

    1. They have no answers to violance verse of Quran (Lastest Revision of GOD, also a failure?)
    2. They think that Islam is only true religion in the world
    3. They are so afraid of Jesus (I wonder why (I knw the reason))
    4. They have no good things other than this violance, what they try to do is finding faults of other religions to make themself happy
    5. This is a living proof Majority of Muslims are Extremists (This is a true kind of Fanaticism)


    Funny thing is Dr. Zakir said Prophet Mohomed prophercies in All major religious text :lol: see how narrow minded people they are? :rolleyes:
     

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    අද ලොකයේ ආගමක් වෙතොත් අන් ආගම්වලට ගරහමින් තම ආගම පතුරුවන ඒ ඉස්ලාම් දහම යනු අපට හොදටම පෙන කරුණාවක් වෙනවා මෙක ලන්කාවේ අයට එතරම්ම නැ මම හිත්න්නෙ මේ එලිකිරි එකෙ අන්තවාදී මුස්ලිම් පිරිස ඇරුනාම.

    ලොකයෙ ආරාබි රටවල නම් සැහෙන්න තියෙනවා මේක, එයාලා හිතන්නේ අනිකුත් ජනතාව අල්ලාගෙ සාපලත් ජනතාවක් කියලා එහෙමයි මේ අය උගන්වන්නෙ මම දැම්ම බොහොමයක්ම විඩියොවල තියෙන්නෙ එයාලගෙම අය කරන කියන දෙවල් නැතුව මෙ බොහොම ආමාරුවෙන් කෙසේ හො මඩ ගැසිමට පලකරපු දෙවල් වෙනෙම්යි.

    අපි සමහර අය අද ලොකයෙ වෙන දෙවල් දන්නෙ නැ.... ලොකයෙ ඕනැම ආගමක් මනුශ්ස්ත්වයට ගරුකරන ආගමක් ලොකයම වැලදගත්ත්ට කමක් නැ (බලෙන් නම් නෙමෙයි හොදෙ) නමුත් අද ලොකයම අන්තවාදි ඉස්ලමයෙන් බෑට කනවා එවා මෙයලගෙ ශුද්ධ වු ග්‍රන්තයට අනුව ස්වර්ගත්වන මහ වීර ක්‍රයා , තම ආගම පතුරවන්න බොරු වුනත් කියන්න අනුමතය දෙන ලොකයේ ප්‍රතම සහ එකම දහම ඉස්ලාමයයි (ඉතින් පන්සීල් මෙයාලට අබින් වගේ)

    ඉස්ලම් දහමේ සත්ය දන්න මනුශ්සත්වයට ගරුකරන කිසිම කෙනෙක් ඉස්ලාමය නම් වැලදගන්නෙ නැ,

    ඉස්ලම දහම අද ලොකයේ අන්ක් 2 කේ පසුවෙන දහම එ තත්වයට අවේ කෙසෙද කියා මදක් ඉතිහසය කියවලා දැනගන්න සමහර මුස්ලිම් අයවත් දන්නෙ නැ මෙ ගැන එයාලට උගන්වලා තියෙන්නේ ආල්ලාගෙ හාස්කමක් විදිහට අපි දන්නවා නොබො දිනකින් එය ලොව අන්ක1 දහම බවට පත්වෙනවා , එය එසෙ වෙන්නෙ ක්‍රම 2 කින්

    1. බැරි වෙලාවත් ඉස්ලාම් වුන කෙනෙකුට නැවත ඉස්ලමය නොහරින්න නිතී රීති දැමිම තුලින් ඉන්න කට්ටියව බලෙන් රදවා ගන්නවා

    2. ඉදිරියෙදි බලෙන් ඉස්ලාම්යට බදවා ගන්නවා , මුස්ලිම් ජාතිකයන් බාලාපොරොත්තුවෙන් සිටින මාදි පැමිනියාම ඉස්ලම දහම වැලද නොගන්නා අයව බෙල්ල කාපා මාරා දමන බව සදහන් වෙනවා

    ඉතින් කෙනෙකුට අහන්න පුලුවන් අපිට ඉරිස්සියාවද කියාලා බුදු දහම වැනි මනුශ්ස හිතකාමී මනුස්සත්වයට මුන් තැනක් දෙන දහමක් අන්ක 1 උනානම් එකෙ කිසිම ගැටලුවක් නැ නමුත් මේ වෙන්න යන විනාශය දැක දැක් අපි නිශ්ශබ්දව ඉන්නෙ කෙසෙද?

    තම ආගම් අදහගෙන අපුරුවට මනුස්සකම අදුනන මුස්ලිම් කොට්ටාශයකුත් ඉන්නවා මේ ලිටිය එයාලා ගැන නෙමෙයි , මෙ ලිපිය අන්තගාමී මුස්ලිම් මිතුරන්ගෙ අවදානය පිනිස බව කරුනාවෙන් සලකන්න

    සමහර අය කියන්න පුලුවන් අනෙ නිකම් අපෙ වැඩක් බලාගන ඉමු කියලා නමුත් වැඩක් බාලාගෙන ඉන්න තිබුනා එයාලත් එයාලගෙ වැඩක් බලාගෙන හිටියා නම් වැඩි විස්ත්‍ර සදහා " What west needs to know' නරබන්න
     

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    Y2K is the one who stated this...i dont feel even come to this section becoz of this childish work.if u want to attack islam this is the only way! poor people.get a life!
     

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    Y2K is the one who stated this...i dont feel even come to this section becoz of this childish work.if u want to attack islam this is the only way! poor people.get a life!

    I am not the one who started this ok your Muslim brothers childish works leads me to reveal the true nature of Islam for you it is a childish but let the people know do not worry they have their own mind & best thing is they have not wired to believe one thing like you guys do

    This is not attack of Islam this is a act of protecting our innocent people unknowingly become Islam (Once you got in there is no way out). You guys should stop insulting/altering & condemn other religions & do not judge other people as unbelievers Love one another, respect each other without the Label of "Islam"
    Spiritually poor people! Please do not get other people's life! :yes:

    “Spiritual poverty is the greatest poverty”
    “Spiritual wisdom is the greatest thing on earth “
    “Spiritual blindness is the greatest disaster”
    “Spirituality is the greatest companion“
    - Y2K​
    :yes:
     

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    Antichrist

    The name "antichrist" is only found in 1 John 2:18, 2:22, 4:3, and 2 John 7. The Apostle John was the only Bible writer to use the name antichrist. Studying these verses, we learn that many antichrists (false teachers) will appear between the time of Christ's first and Second Coming, but there will be one great antichrist who will rise to power during the end times, or "last hour," as 1 John phrases it. He will deny that Jesus is the Christ. He will deny both God the Father and God the Son. He will be a liar and a deceiver.

    1 John 4:1-3 says, "Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world." (NKJV)

    By the end times, many will easily be deceived and embrace the antichrist because his spirit will already dwell within the world.
     

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    Y2K is the one who stated this...i dont feel even come to this section becoz of this childish work.if u want to attack islam this is the only way! poor people.get a life!

    What did Satan say when he was cast out from Heaven?

    He then recalled Isaiah 14:14, where Lucifer, another name for Satan, is quoted as saying, "I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High."

    He said he will be like most high it means by any means he will try to be like God, worse enemy of Satan is Jesus (Son of God) that is why now he is trying to say Jesus is not God or Son of God. He doesn’t mind whether you atheist (I think he would love atheism) or any other paganism his only enemies are True Christians so he will do any thing to vanish Christianity from this world

    He will use two weapons to do this (his Propaganda)
    1. Atheism
    2. Creating another alternative monotheism to deny Jesus Christ or he will bring polytheism (then you will be violating 1st Commandment by worshiping false Gods (Fallen Angles)


    So BE VIGILANT ! :yes:
     

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    What did Satan say when he was cast out from Heaven?

    He then recalled Isaiah 14:14, where Lucifer, another name for Satan, is quoted as saying, "I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High."

    He said he will be like most high it means by any means he will try to be like God, worse enemy of Satan is Jesus (Son of God) that is why now he is trying to say Jesus is not God or Son of God. He doesn’t mind whether you atheist (I think he would love atheism) or any other paganism his only enemies are True Christians so he will do any thing to vanish Christianity from this world

    He will use two weapons to do this (his Propaganda)
    1. Atheism
    2. Creating another alternative monotheism to deny Jesus Christ or he will bring polytheism (then you will be violating 1st Commandment by worshiping false Gods (Fallen Angles)


    So BE VIGILANT ! :yes:

    DO U KNOW THAT QURAN PRAISE PROPHET JESUS,HIS PURE BIRTH AND HIS MOTHER MARY.THERE ARE SEPARATE CHAPTERS BY THEIR NAME.WE RESPECT HIM MORE THAN U.MOTHER MARIEM NAMED AS THE BEST RIGHTEOUS AMONG WOMEN.

    Al-Qur'an Chapter 61 Verse 6:

    "And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said, 'O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me and giving glad tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed.' But when he came to them with clear signs, they said, 'This is evident sorcery!' "



    Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the New Testament ( from the King James Version.)




    All the prophecies mentioned in the Old Testament regarding Muhammad (pbuh) besides applying to the Jews also hold good for the Christians.


    1. John chapter 14 verse 16:
    "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever."

    2. Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26:

    "But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which
    proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me."

    3. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7:

    "Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not
    come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you".

    4. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 12-14:

    "I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is
    come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me".


    "Ahmed" or "Muhammad" meaning "the one who praises" or "the praised one" is almost the translation of the
    Greek word Periclytos. In the Gospel of John 14:16, 15:26, and 16:7. The word 'Comforter' is used in the English translation for the Greek word Paracletos which means advocate or a kind friend rather than a comforter.
    Paracletos is the warped reading for Periclytos. Jesus (pbuh) actually prophesised Ahmed by name. Even the
    Greek word Paraclete refers to the Prophet (pbuh) who is a mercy for all creatures.
     
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    DO U KNOW THAT QURAN PRAISE PROPHET JESUS,HIS PURE BIRTH AND HIS MOTHER MARY.THERE ARE SEPARATE CHAPTERS BY THEIR NAME.WE RESPECT HIM MORE THAN U.MOTHER MARIEM NAMED AS THE BEST RIGHTEOUS AMONG WOMEN.

    Al-Qur'an Chapter 61 Verse 6:

    "And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said, 'O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me and giving glad tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed.' But when he came to them with clear signs, they said, 'This is evident sorcery!' "


    You need not to tell this story we Christians knows it better than Muslims extremests


    Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the New Testament ( from the King James Version.)




    All the prophecies mentioned in the Old Testament regarding Muhammad (pbuh) besides applying to the Jews also hold good for the Christians.


    1. John chapter 14 verse 16:
    "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever."



    God damn it man , this is not the comforter of women, it is the holy spirit Jesus talk abt I can prove it to you as i proved it earlier

    2. Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26:

    "But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which
    proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me."

    You are insulting God, Mohomed is not speak the truth, he instead he hates Jews & Christians , he even killed millions of Jews , he is a killer no. 1 killer

    Did Mohomed testify Jesus?

    Go away satan ! He reject the crusifiction of our Lord, He Rejected Son of God today he is still killing our Jesus saying that he is just a man true God is setting their in the heaven confortable doing nothing just sending unreliable last phophet Call "Mohomed "





    3. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7:

    "Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you".

    "Another Comforter" means Jesus in the Spirit as opposed to Jesus in the flesh. In verse 16 Jesus told the disciples about the other Comforter. Then in verse 17 Jesus told them they knew the Comforter already, because He dwelt with them and would be in them. Who dwelt with the disciples at that time? Jesus, of course. The Spirit of Jesus dwelt with the disciples since the Spirit was robed in the flesh, but soon the Spirit would be in the disciples through the gift of the Holy Spirit. Jesus made this even clearer when He said in verse 18, "I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you."

    Jesus went to heaven in His glorified body so He could form a new relationship with His disciples, by sending back His own Spirit as the Comforter. He said to them, "It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you" (John 16:7). The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Christ (Romans 8:9; II Corinthians 3:17-18). When we have the Spirit in us, we have Christ in us (Ephesians 3:16-17).

    In short, Jesus had dwelt with the disciples physically for about three years, but the time had come for Him to depart. However, He promised He would not leave them alone, comfortless, or as orphans. Instead, He promised to come back in a new way. He would not come in a visible body to dwell with them and be limited by that body, but He would return in Spirit so that He could dwell in them. So the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, is the Spirit of Jesus. This is Jesus manifested in a new way; Jesus can be with us and in us. He can be in all of His disciples all over the world at the same time and He can fulfill His promise to be with us until the end of the age (Matthew 28:20).


    please let me know my answer make any sense I can prove you that what Jesus not about is not another messenger (not specially like Mohomed) it is the spirit of Holy Ghost read Acts how they came onto all his followers for the first time

    4. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 12-14:

    "I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is
    come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me".


    "Ahmed" or "Muhammad" meaning "the one who praises" or "the praised one" is almost the translation of the
    Greek word Periclytos. In the Gospel of John 14:16, 15:26, and 16:7. The word 'Comforter' is used in the English translation for the Greek word Paracletos which means advocate or a kind friend rather than a comforter.
    Paracletos is the warped reading for Periclytos. Jesus (pbuh) actually prophesised Ahmed by name. Even the
    Greek word Paraclete refers to the Prophet (pbuh) who is a mercy for all creatures.

    Oh poor little fellow OK lets see what will be this "Comforter'" or "Holy Spirit" Spirit of truth

    The Holy Spirit Comes at Pentecost

    1When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. 2Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. 4All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tonguesa as the Spirit enabled them.


    Please do not use are Holy thing with your evil prophet
     

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    Please do not use are Holy thing with your evil prophet[/QUOTE]

    ARE U A COMEDIAN?

    The Prophet Muhammad is greater than Jesus:

    Jesus never married and so he could not become an ideal husband and father. He did not triumph over his enemies and so had no chance of showing how a victor should behave towards his vanquished foes who have spared no pains to annihilate him and his followers. He did not have his persecutors at his mercy and so had no occasion to show real forbearance and forgiveness. Jesus did not rise to power to become the model of a benevolent and just ruler and judge.

    We must turn to Prophet Muhammad, and not Jesus, if we want to see the picture of an ideally happy and pious married life and of a wise, just and benevolent ruler whom nothing could corrupt or divert from working for the material and moral amelioration of his people. Prophet Muhammad witnessed both the phases of persecution and success. He showed rare patience, fortitude, courage and love for his foes as a persecuted preacher of religion and in the hours of deepest gloom, and unparalleled self-control and mercy when his bitterest foes were helpless before him.


    Jesus did not get the chance to put into practice many of his precepts and teachings. For instance, he advised his followers to sell their garments and purchase swords (Luke 22:36), but he could not demonstrate to them the right use of the sword. To resist violence and aggression sometimes becomes our highest duty – for instance, when helpless men, women, and children are being slaughtered and the freedom to believe and practice the religion of their own choice is denied to people by fanatics and tyrants. It was Prophet Muhammad who showed how a true solider of God, the protector of the victims of intolerance and cruel violence, should behave on the battlefield and in moments of defeat and triumph.


    The life of Jesus runs parallel to the early life of the Prophet Muhammad, but Jesus did not live long enough to give a practical shape to his teachings and work out the social implications of his message. He did not have the chance to enlarge his teachings to cover all the situations of life and to bring about the tremendous social reforms that Prophet Muhammad did. The modern man, who has to lead a life as a son, a husband, a father, a poor worker, a citizen, a neighbor, a despised advocate of new ideas and ways, a victim of religious and political bigotry, a man with authority, a successful leader of man, a soldier, a business-man, a judge, and a ruler, will find Prophet Muhammad as a perfect model for him in all situations and walks of life.


    The Prophet Muhammad completed what was left incomplete by Jesus. Islam is the true religion of Jesus, revived by a fresh revelations and perfected to cover all aspects of human actions and relations and to give guidance to the people of all times and nations. It is, in short, a Universal Religion. It does not only respond to man’s devotional urges but to human life as a whole. It does not only give us infallible metaphysics, but also a comprehensive and sublime code of individual and social ethics, a sound economic system, a just political ideology, and many other things besides. It is not a solitary star, but a whole solar system, encompassing the whole and illuminating the whole” (Ulfat Aziz-Samad, Islam and Christiantiy, pp. 26-27)


    Let us consider the following quotations:

    "Muhammed is the most successful of all Prophets and religious personalities." Encyclopedia Britannica


    "The founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire, that is Muhammed. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than
    he?"Lamartine, Historie de la Turquie, Paris 1854, Vol. 11 pp. 276-277


    "I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion for from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Saviour of Humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today."
    George Bernard Shaw, THE GENUINE ISLAM.


    "My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world's most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular level."
    Michael H. Hart, THE 100: A RANKING OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL PERSONS IN HISTORY, New York: Hart Publishing Company, Inc., 1978, p. 33.


    "In little more than a year he was actually the spiritual, nominal and temporal rule of Medina, with his hands on the lever that was to shake the world." John Austin, MUHAMMAD THE PROPHET OF
    ALLAH in T.P.'s and Cassel's Weekly for 24th September 1927.


    "Four years after the death of Justinian, A.D. 569, was born at Mecca, in Arabia the man who, of all men exercised the greatest influence upon the human race... Mohammed"
    John William Draper, M.D., L.L.D., A History of the Intellectual Development of Europe, London 1875, Vol.1, pp.329-330


    "People like Pasteur and Salk are leaders in the first sense. People like Gandhi and Confucius, on one hand, and Alexander, Caesar and Hitler on the other, are leaders in the second and perhaps the third sense. Jesus and Buddha belong in the third category alone. Perhaps the greatest leader of all times was Mohammed, who combined all three functions. To a lesser degree, Moses did the same."
    Professor Jules Masserman


    "Head of the State as well as the Church, he was Caesar and Pope in one; but he was Pope without the Pope's pretensions, and Caesar without the legions of Caesar, without a standing army, without a bodyguard, without a police force, without a fixed revenue. If ever a man ruled by a right divine, it was Muhammad, for he had all the powers without their supports. He cared not for the dressings of power. The simplicity of his private life was in keeping with his public life." Bosworth Smith in 'Muhammad and Muhammadanism,' London, 1874.


    According to the Bible, Jesus’ mission was a failure. Even contemporary historians say Jesus failed his mission.


    Jesus had no foreknowledge of his failure and crucifixion. The Last Supper was a celebration with his closest disciples of his appearance as King and the imminent overthrow of the Roman power. After preparing himself by several nights of prayer on the Mount of Olives, Jesus was convinced that "the day of the Lord" was close at hand, and he called together his disciples for a final strengthening of the bond between them before their crucial testing time. The atmosphere must have been extremely tense. They were about to embark on a great venture on which the fate of their country and the whole world would depend. But the special poignancy and drama of the Gospel accounts are the product of hindsight and of the myths that grew up later to explain Jesus's failure. (Hyam Maccoby, Jesus and the Jewish Resistance) [1]
    Christianity was founded by Paul, not Jesus. The conversion of the Roman Empire to Christianity was the failure of Jesus’ teachings, the Romans converted to the religion of Paul, and they were deceived by the Church for the exploitation of wealth and power. The Gospel of Jesus does not exist; the Gospel of Paul is flourishing instead.


    "Paul... did not desire to know Christ.... Paul shows us with what complete indifference the earthly life of Jesus was regarded.... What is the significance for our faith and for our religious life, the fact that the Gospel of Paul is different from the Gospel of Jesus?.... The attitude which Paul himself takes up towards the Gospel of Jesus is that he does not repeat it in the words of Jesus, and does not appeal to its authority.... The fateful thing is that the Greek, the Catholic, and the Protestant theologies all contain the Gospel of Paul in a form which does not continue the Gospel of Jesus, but displaces it." (The Quest for the Historical Jesus, Albert Schweitzer)


    "The Christianity which the nations claim to follow is the religion of Paul, who is admittedly the chief and almost the only theologian that the Church recognizes. Because of his betrayal of the Master's teachings, the vision of true Christianity has been so dimmed that men have been able to defend war and a host of other evils, such as flesh eating and slavery, on the authority of the Bible." (Christ or Paul? Rev. V.A. Holmes-Gore)


    "My long-time view about Christianity is that it represents an amalgam of two seemingly immiscible parts--the religion of Jesus and the religion of Paul. Thomas Jefferson attempted to excise the Pauline parts of the New Testament. There wasn't much left when he was done, but it was an inspiring document." (Letter to Ken Schei [author of Christianity Betrayed [1]
    Jesus failed to change the structure of his own society, he was persecuted like any other Prophet, but according to the Jews, he was killed on the cross (the most humiliating death) over false charges. Yet the Quran teaches that Jesus was a true Prophet, he was not crucified (4:157), and God raised him to Heaven (3:55). In comparison, the Prophet Muhammad changed the world in 23 years; he completely restored the religion of Abraham. There is no other religion that spread as rapidly as Islam, within one hundred years the Light of Islam reached far-away continents. The mission of Prophet Muhammad was a complete success, regardless of whether a Christian acknowledges this fact or not. Also, Jesus was not a husband, father, or statesman. How can Jesus be the “greatest man who ever lived”, only the Prophet Muhammad is testified to be the most profound individual.

     

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    Oh poor little fellow OK lets see what will be this "Comforter'" or "Holy Spirit" Spirit of truth

    The Holy Spirit Comes at Pentecost

    1When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. 2Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. 4All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tonguesa as the Spirit enabled them.


    Please do not use are Holy thing with your evil prophet

    what is this? from where u got this? give me the quotation to search.

    also ur a the poor fellow here who just trying to prove something by creating useless threads.

    quran clearly tells:

    Al-Qur'an Chapter 61 Verse 6:

    "And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said, 'O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me and giving glad tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed.'
    But when he came to them with clear signs, they said, 'This is evident sorcery!' "


    open ur eyes keeping your racism aside!!:shocked::shocked::shocked:
     

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    Please do not use are Holy thing with your evil prophet

    ARE U A COMEDIAN?

    The Prophet Muhammad is greater than Jesus:

    Jesus never married and so he could not become an ideal husband and father. He did not triumph over his enemies and so had no chance of showing how a victor should behave towards his vanquished foes who have spared no pains to annihilate him and his followers. He did not have his persecutors at his mercy and so had no occasion to show real forbearance and forgiveness. Jesus did not rise to power to become the model of a benevolent and just ruler and judge.

    We must turn to Prophet Muhammad, and not Jesus, if we want to see the picture of an ideally happy and pious married life and of a wise, just and benevolent ruler whom nothing could corrupt or divert from working for the material and moral amelioration of his people. Prophet Muhammad witnessed both the phases of persecution and success. He showed rare patience, fortitude, courage and love for his foes as a persecuted preacher of religion and in the hours of deepest gloom, and unparalleled self-control and mercy when his bitterest foes were helpless before him.


    Jesus did not get the chance to put into practice many of his precepts and teachings. For instance, he advised his followers to sell their garments and purchase swords (Luke 22:36), but he could not demonstrate to them the right use of the sword. To resist violence and aggression sometimes becomes our highest duty – for instance, when helpless men, women, and children are being slaughtered and the freedom to believe and practice the religion of their own choice is denied to people by fanatics and tyrants. It was Prophet Muhammad who showed how a true solider of God, the protector of the victims of intolerance and cruel violence, should behave on the battlefield and in moments of defeat and triumph.


    The life of Jesus runs parallel to the early life of the Prophet Muhammad, but Jesus did not live long enough to give a practical shape to his teachings and work out the social implications of his message. He did not have the chance to enlarge his teachings to cover all the situations of life and to bring about the tremendous social reforms that Prophet Muhammad did. The modern man, who has to lead a life as a son, a husband, a father, a poor worker, a citizen, a neighbor, a despised advocate of new ideas and ways, a victim of religious and political bigotry, a man with authority, a successful leader of man, a soldier, a business-man, a judge, and a ruler, will find Prophet Muhammad as a perfect model for him in all situations and walks of life.


    The Prophet Muhammad completed what was left incomplete by Jesus. Islam is the true religion of Jesus, revived by a fresh revelations and perfected to cover all aspects of human actions and relations and to give guidance to the people of all times and nations. It is, in short, a Universal Religion. It does not only respond to man’s devotional urges but to human life as a whole. It does not only give us infallible metaphysics, but also a comprehensive and sublime code of individual and social ethics, a sound economic system, a just political ideology, and many other things besides. It is not a solitary star, but a whole solar system, encompassing the whole and illuminating the whole” (Ulfat Aziz-Samad, Islam and Christiantiy, pp. 26-27)


    Let us consider the following quotations:

    "Muhammed is the most successful of all Prophets and religious personalities." Encyclopedia Britannica


    "The founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire, that is Muhammed. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than
    he?"Lamartine, Historie de la Turquie, Paris 1854, Vol. 11 pp. 276-277


    "I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion for from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Saviour of Humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today."
    George Bernard Shaw, THE GENUINE ISLAM.


    "My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world's most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular level."
    Michael H. Hart, THE 100: A RANKING OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL PERSONS IN HISTORY, New York: Hart Publishing Company, Inc., 1978, p. 33.


    "In little more than a year he was actually the spiritual, nominal and temporal rule of Medina, with his hands on the lever that was to shake the world." John Austin, MUHAMMAD THE PROPHET OF
    ALLAH in T.P.'s and Cassel's Weekly for 24th September 1927.


    "Four years after the death of Justinian, A.D. 569, was born at Mecca, in Arabia the man who, of all men exercised the greatest influence upon the human race... Mohammed"
    John William Draper, M.D., L.L.D., A History of the Intellectual Development of Europe, London 1875, Vol.1, pp.329-330


    "People like Pasteur and Salk are leaders in the first sense. People like Gandhi and Confucius, on one hand, and Alexander, Caesar and Hitler on the other, are leaders in the second and perhaps the third sense. Jesus and Buddha belong in the third category alone. Perhaps the greatest leader of all times was Mohammed, who combined all three functions. To a lesser degree, Moses did the same."
    Professor Jules Masserman


    "Head of the State as well as the Church, he was Caesar and Pope in one; but he was Pope without the Pope's pretensions, and Caesar without the legions of Caesar, without a standing army, without a bodyguard, without a police force, without a fixed revenue. If ever a man ruled by a right divine, it was Muhammad, for he had all the powers without their supports. He cared not for the dressings of power. The simplicity of his private life was in keeping with his public life." Bosworth Smith in 'Muhammad and Muhammadanism,' London, 1874.


    According to the Bible, Jesus’ mission was a failure. Even contemporary historians say Jesus failed his mission.


    Jesus had no foreknowledge of his failure and crucifixion. The Last Supper was a celebration with his closest disciples of his appearance as King and the imminent overthrow of the Roman power. After preparing himself by several nights of prayer on the Mount of Olives, Jesus was convinced that "the day of the Lord" was close at hand, and he called together his disciples for a final strengthening of the bond between them before their crucial testing time. The atmosphere must have been extremely tense. They were about to embark on a great venture on which the fate of their country and the whole world would depend. But the special poignancy and drama of the Gospel accounts are the product of hindsight and of the myths that grew up later to explain Jesus's failure. (Hyam Maccoby, Jesus and the Jewish Resistance) [1]
    Christianity was founded by Paul, not Jesus. The conversion of the Roman Empire to Christianity was the failure of Jesus’ teachings, the Romans converted to the religion of Paul, and they were deceived by the Church for the exploitation of wealth and power. The Gospel of Jesus does not exist; the Gospel of Paul is flourishing instead.


    "Paul... did not desire to know Christ.... Paul shows us with what complete indifference the earthly life of Jesus was regarded.... What is the significance for our faith and for our religious life, the fact that the Gospel of Paul is different from the Gospel of Jesus?.... The attitude which Paul himself takes up towards the Gospel of Jesus is that he does not repeat it in the words of Jesus, and does not appeal to its authority.... The fateful thing is that the Greek, the Catholic, and the Protestant theologies all contain the Gospel of Paul in a form which does not continue the Gospel of Jesus, but displaces it." (The Quest for the Historical Jesus, Albert Schweitzer)


    "The Christianity which the nations claim to follow is the religion of Paul, who is admittedly the chief and almost the only theologian that the Church recognizes. Because of his betrayal of the Master's teachings, the vision of true Christianity has been so dimmed that men have been able to defend war and a host of other evils, such as flesh eating and slavery, on the authority of the Bible." (Christ or Paul? Rev. V.A. Holmes-Gore)


    "My long-time view about Christianity is that it represents an amalgam of two seemingly immiscible parts--the religion of Jesus and the religion of Paul. Thomas Jefferson attempted to excise the Pauline parts of the New Testament. There wasn't much left when he was done, but it was an inspiring document." (Letter to Ken Schei [author of Christianity Betrayed [1]
    Jesus failed to change the structure of his own society, he was persecuted like any other Prophet, but according to the Jews, he was killed on the cross (the most humiliating death) over false charges. Yet the Quran teaches that Jesus was a true Prophet, he was not crucified (4:157), and God raised him to Heaven (3:55). In comparison, the Prophet Muhammad changed the world in 23 years; he completely restored the religion of Abraham. There is no other religion that spread as rapidly as Islam, within one hundred years the Light of Islam reached far-away continents. The mission of Prophet Muhammad was a complete success, regardless of whether a Christian acknowledges this fact or not. Also, Jesus was not a husband, father, or statesman. How can Jesus be the “greatest man who ever lived”, only the Prophet Muhammad is testified to be the most profound individual.

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    I do not have time to reap this crap , bt let me show you who is greater (I knw every other friends knw who is the real prophet)

    Revelation 22:12 "And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last."
    සාතන් පල!
     

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    YAKO!!!! NAWATHTHAPAN MEKA!!!!!!:confused::confused:

    i started this thread to point out somthng but u guys av turnd it in2 another stupid usless religous debate!!! wtf man??? and im talking to both the sides !! arguing wont help bcz nethr of u is gonna convince the other so please SHUTUP EVRY1!!!!!!!! :growl::growl::growl::growl:


     

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    YAKO!!!! NAWATHTHAPAN MEKA!!!!!!:confused::confused:

    i started this thread to point out somthng but u guys av turnd it in2 another stupid usless religous debate!!! wtf man??? and im talking to both the sides !! arguing wont help bcz nethr of u is gonna convince the other so please SHUTUP EVRY1!!!!!!!! :growl::growl::growl::growl:



    Sorry mchan bt I couldn't resist this sorry ! :yes:
     

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    what is this? from where u got this? give me the quotation to search.

    also ur a the poor fellow here who just trying to prove something by creating useless threads.

    quran clearly tells:

    Al-Qur'an Chapter 61 Verse 6:

    "And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said, 'O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me and giving glad tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed.'
    But when he came to them with clear signs, they said, 'This is evident sorcery!' "


    open ur eyes keeping your racism aside!!:shocked::shocked::shocked:

    යකො මුන් අපිට කියලා දෙන්න එනවා නෙ අපෙ දහම .... වුන් චාටර් වෙලා නිසා වෙන්න ඇති නොද කින් ...

    This the first verses of Acts that is the first time they recieved the holy spirit after Jesus christ taken upto heaven

    The Holy Spirit Comes at Pentecost

    PENTECOST.gif


    Acts 2:1 When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. 2 Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3 They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. 4 All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tonguesa as the Spirit enabled them.


    This is the comforter jesus has promised actually it the spirit of Jesus himself (specailly can't be a human like Mohomed (womenised fellow) if you still can't b'live pls keep ur damn mouth shut

    යකො උබ දන්නෙ නැති දෙවල් කොපි කර කර බයිලා ගහන්න එපා ... මුලින්ම උබ බයිබලයක් දැකලාවත් තියෙනවාද? යකො තොපිලා උබලාගේ අගමෙ හොද දෙයක් බෙදාගෙන හිටපල්ලා අපේ ඉගැන්විම් අවුල් කරන්නෙ නැතුව