USA or Russia

[lkdood]

I did not mention anything about the invisibility. All im saying is, what US trying to prove is not correct. This been happening for many years. They are doing it for the purpose of propaganda. Russia don't need to involve in anything since they have their own resources (Ex- Gas).

"very few US aircraft" - I like that, because many of them are shot down by using Russian technology

not propoagands its a fact

US has lost very few aircraft in recent wars

 

[issrox]

no one wins coz there wont be any physical land to claim the victory
simple as that

 

[sampath_lanka]

I did not mention anything about the invisibility. All im saying is, what US trying to prove is not correct. This been happening for many years. They are doing it for the purpose of propaganda. Russia don't need to involve in anything since they have their own resources (Ex- Gas).

"very few US aircraft" - I like that, because many of them are shot down by using Russian technology

Oh Man!!! Why is it that everyone so focused on technology???

Like I said earlier: it might superficially seem advantages for one country two be technologically on the upper edge, however, HE WHO CONTROLS THE TECHNOLOGY, CONTROLS THE WAR.

The only reason a war should trigger between Russia and the USA, as far as how I see it, is if the real ethnic Russians realize who is controlling and harming their economy and decide to rise up and do something about it.

If USA and Russia wages war, then both of them will be the losers. The real winner will be grinning and hiding somewhere else.

 

[yrollgayanth]

Not true

Most of the military technology in US is made by US workers

One thing that is true

Russia is more a closed country, America is a more open country

Many Israelis are involved in their projects. And projects like B2 bomber is using German technology (Horten 229) where they used in 1940's. Thats how B2 bomber got that shape. This is a prime example.

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/episode/hitler-s-stealth-fighter-3942/Overview

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horten_Ho_229

They (Germans) could not complete this project since they ran out of time and resources. During the final stages of the war Americans have recovered this plane.

B2 is made by the technology stolen from Germans

 

[lkdood]

no one wins coz there wont be any physical land to claim the victory
simple as that

True if it goes nuclear

That's why a war starting is unlikely

Russians had a lot of power but now they lost some areas to NATO including land

Former soviet countries have joined the NATO

 

[anuradha2009]

Russia

 

[Topology]

True if it goes nuclear

That's why a war starting is unlikely

Russians had a lot of power but now they lost some areas to NATO including land

Former soviet countries have joined the NATO

not really
Russia might lost NATO support cause they are not a part of NATO
simply it's another faction.

which is called CSTO. most of former soviet countries belong to that faction.

 

[lkdood]

Many Israelis are involved in their projects. And projects like B2 bomber is using German technology (Horten 229) where they used in 1940's. Thats how B2 bomber got that shape. This a prime example.

America is a country of immigrants

US president (father from Kenya, mother (English/Irish) from Kansas)

Gen. (Ret.) Eric Shinseki (Chief of Staff US Army) (grandparents from Japan)

Gen. (Ret.) John Shalikashvili US Army (Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff US military) (born in Poland)

million millions more

 

[yrollgayanth]

million millions more

Well this is irrelevant to my post. I thought we are talking about their own technology.

 

[lkdood]

not really
Russia might lost NATO support cause they are not a part of NATO
simply it's another faction.

which is called CSTO. most of former soviet countries belong to that faction.

CSTO is just Russia & a few small countries

Lithuania, Latvia are NATO

 

[lkdood]

Well this is irrelevant to my post. I thought we are talking about their own technology.

that's what im talking about
'own' technology

US welata german, russian scientists ekale godak awa

they are Americans

Albert Einstein (born in Germany)

Swiss (from 1901) & American (from 1940)

 

[yrollgayanth]

that's what im talking about
'own' technology

US welata german, russian scientists ekale godak awa

they are Americans

Albert Einstein (born in Germany)

Swiss (from 1901) & American (from 1940)

That is the point I'm trying to make. US need people from outside to get their jobs done while Russians doesn't. And still US is falling behind.

 

[lkdood]

That is the point I'm trying to make. US need people from outside to get their jobs done while Russians doesn't. And still US is falling behind.

US is still the largest military power & the largest economy

American history & culture are different from Russia

Americawa athi une wena ratawal welin minissu awil la

US always had people coming in

 

[dimuthmike]

US is still the largest military power & the largest economy

American history & culture are different from Russia

Americawa athi une wena ratawal welin minissu awil la

US always had people coming in

dood check this out

 

[yrollgayanth]

US is still the largest military power & the largest economy

American history & culture are different from Russia

Americawa athi une wena ratawal welin minissu awil la

US always had people coming in

Agree with the economy, but not with the military which is related to this thread.

Americawa military athin ochara diyunu nam cold war kale plane naw kudu karapu welave Russia walata erehiva uda prkasha kare naththe ai? Russian ai baya nathuwa unga seemawata ena plane naw kudu kare? ei kale Iraq wage ratak US plane ekakata atha thibbanaum un 1960s walama Iraq walata gihin indi.

 

[ukarox]

Lankaawa thamai dinanne,......................

 

[lkdood]

Agree with the economy, but not with the military which is related to the this thread.

Americawa military athin ochara diyunu nam cold war kale plane naw kudu karapu welave Russia walata erehiva uda prkasha kare naththe ai? Russian ai baya nathuwa unga seemawata ena plane naw kudu kare? ei kale Iraq wage ratak US plane ekakata atha thibbanaum un 1960s walama Iraq walata gihin indi.

i think we can will agree to disagree

you think Russia is the most powerful (military)

i think the US is the most powerful (military)

popular site http://www.globalfirepower.com/

they rank

1. USA
2. China
3. Russia
4. India
5. UK

 

[yrollgayanth]

i think we can will agree to disagree

you think Russia is the most powerful (military)

i think the US is the most powerful (military)

popular site http://www.globalfirepower.com/

they rank

1. USA
2. China
3. Russia
4. India
5. UK

Military cannot be compared by using websites. During the cold war Russia attacked US! and US did not. I can pull out a website which is favorable to Russia and say Russia is the most powerful country in the world. But that method is practically not correct. I would like to compare the recent incidents took place such as cold war.

 

[ShanikDJs]

I say AMERICA will win

take a look


1 USA + Great Britain = powerful armies.
(as an example)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Army

 

[ShanikDJs]

USA



PERSONNEL
Total Population: 303,824,640 [2008]
Population Available: 144,354,117 [2008]
Fit for Military Service: 118,600,541 [2008]
Reaching Military Age Annually: 4,266,128 [2008]
Active Military Personnel: 1,385,122 [2008]
Active Military Reserve: 1,458,500 [2008]
Active Paramilitary Units: 453,000 [2008]

ARMY
Total Land-Based Weapons: 29,920
Towed Artillery: 5,178 [2001]


AIR FORCE
Total Aircraft: 18,169 [2003]
Helicopters: 4,593 [2003]
Serviceable Airports: 14,947 [2007]

NAVY
Total Navy Ships: 1,559
Merchant Marine Strength: 422 [2008]
Major Ports and Harbors: 10
Aircraft Carriers: 11 [2008]
Destroyers: 50 [2008]
Submarines: 75 [2008]
Frigates: 92 [2008]
Patrol & Coastal Craft: 100 [2008]
Mine Warfare Craft: 28 [2008]
Amphibious Craft: 38 [2008]
LOGISTICAL
Labor Force: 153,100,000 [2007]
Roadways: 6,465,799 km
Railways: 226,612 km

FINANCES (USD)
Defense Budget: $515,400,000,000 [2009]
Foreign Exch. & Gold: $70,570,000,000 [2007]
Purchasing Power: $13,780,000,000,000 [2007]

OIL
Oil Production: 7,460,000 bbl/day [2007]
Oil Consumption: 20,800,000 bbl/day [2005]
Proven Oil Reserves: 21,760,000,000 bbl [2006]

GEOGRAPHIC
Waterways: 41,009 km
Coastline: 19,924 km
Square Land Area: 9,826,630 km