What is better: an experiment with winrar winzip and 7zip

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coolioWiZ said:
I was first suprised to see your test pc had only 192MB RAM, then I saw it's a VirtualBox. I really hope you allocated only that much of RAM, not your PC having only 192MB RAM even being a dual core system. :lol:

Expanding upon what you did, I tested winzip winrar and 7zip for a double kick to Ranga.

The Computer:
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Note: All programs are 32bit to even the playground.

Test 1
The folder size is 300MB, contains five video files (.wmv)
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7Zip: http://www.egoshare.com/57c025aef993744314313ca7693da730/7zip1wmv.html (7zip takes 30sec)
WinZip : http://www.egoshare.com/c5dec704e998e61f75d2f0f27c51ec8d/winzip1wmv.html (winzip takes 40 sec for legacy zip)
WinRar : http://www.egoshare.com/847815e8c64c1540639e43f95e7aa597/winrar1wmv.html (1min video winrar processed 40%)


Interesting observation: 7zip compresses zip faster than winzip when doing these videos (10sec difference)

Test 2
The folder size is again 300MB, contains assorted pdfs docs and jpgs
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7Zip : http://www.egoshare.com/dc58139d111d962dfb4ecf17c131a5ad/7zip2wmv.html (41sec)
WinZip : http://www.egoshare.com/9b276c0445ea1d3e38e05e552d30021e/winzip2wmv.html (about 39sec again legacy zip)
WinRar : http://www.egoshare.com/549bf6b8855b589d9a9a52535808d490/winrar2wmv.html (1min video winrar processed 33%)


Compressing these assorted files WinZip seems to be on par or better by 2secs.




winrar seems to need atleast 5 times(I'm being generous in estimating poor winrar) more time than 7zip to do a compression job. That's similar to your observation of winrar being 6 times slower than 7zip :D



The interesting thing is 7zip is on par with winzip, or sometimes faster than winzip when doing zip format :) No need to talk about winrar. :lol:

Now Ranga, the ball is in your park :lol: Give us some statistics of your winrar.
Statistics mean benchmarks not things such as this:
winrar: used by zillions
7zip: used by negative infinity
lol your lovely purple color :lol:
Did you think I’m blind? Or you are blind.

1. Y did u use zip format? (u sed .7zip get best compress and .zip got speed)
2. Did u really believe this “winrar seems to need atleast 5 times more time than 7zip to do a compression job.”
3. What if I show my statistic. Did u accept u loose?
4. What if I show u r a liar?

Btw can u tell me how to double kick 2 persons at same time?
 

coolioWiZ

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    mkranga said:
    Did you think I’m blind? Or you are blind.

    1. Y did u use zip format? (u sed .7zip get best compress and .zip got speed)
    2. Did u really believe this “winrar seems to need atleast 5 times more time than 7zip to do a compression job.”
    3. What if I show my statistic. Did u accept u loose?
    4. What if I show u r a liar?

    Btw can u tell me how to double kick 2 persons at same time?

    This is getting interesting. :lol:

    for no 1 : This time I was not trying to show compression sizes. You'll see that the focus is on the speed. I can show that .7z is also faster than rar. zip is the default compression used by windows users. So it's quite reasonable to test 7zip and winzip for it. (a windows user might like to know how well .zip is handled by these programs)

    for no 2: I didn't say I believe. It's an observation. Watch the videos.

    for no 3 and 4: Not statistics, show benchmarks. Don't screw up. Show some screencasts. If they are authentic I'll then believe.

    Now for your side remark: I didn't say anything about kicking 2 people at the same time. :lol: I don't act as a stunt double for Jackie Chan. :P
     
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    mkranga

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    In WinRAR solid compression is off by default. In 7-Zip it is on. You can untick it, and the program will remember your preference. Strangely, solid compression is the default even for the CLI command u (Update). What is the purpose of solid compression for archives that are meant to be updated regularly and often?
     

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    mkranga said:
    7z, LZMA and multi-threading, quote from the 7-Zip Help

    If you enable the Multi-threading option, 7-Zip will use two threads for compressing. It can speed up compressing up to 70–80% on Multi-Processor systems or up to 25% on a Pentium 4 with Hyper-Threading.


    Idiot’s idiot’s idiots..... See this
    http://www.kikizas.net/en/apps.7z.html
    mkranga said:
    In WinRAR solid compression is off by default. In 7-Zip it is on. You can untick it, and the program will remember your preference. Strangely, solid compression is the default even for the CLI command u (Update). What is the purpose of solid compression for archives that are meant to be updated regularly and often?
    Have you been using WinRAR without multithreaded support??? ROFLMAO :rofl: :rofl:

    You are the idiot!!! :lol: You proved it yet again. :lol:

    We use multithreading in all WinRAR, WinZip and 7-zip and every software that supports them. n00b :P We are not new to PCs like you are :rolleyes:

    The test results I showed are all done on a single core CPU (because VirtualBox only allows one core to be assigned for virtual machine). So no improvement by using more threads.
     
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    Anusha said:
    You are the one who don't want to read an explanation, saying it's too long....:P

    You are really funny. :rolleyes:

    Tell us one good reason why you think WinRAR is better, except the fact that you THINK most people use it.

    1. I've shown7-zip compressed certain files at 3-10 times faster on a 64bit platform and faster in 32bit platform as well, but not as much as in 64bit. What more do you need? It's not compressing only that matters. Every archive I download, extracts faster in 7-zip. Only time when WinRAR and 7-zip performance is equal is when I extract a 700MB movie, because the hard disk has a lot to do in that case.

    2. 7-zip is free (maybe not a big importance)

    3. 7-zip one of the few (3?) archivers that natively comes in 64bit

    :baffled:

    I don't but 7Zip will:lol:

    WinRAR is a rock solid program with a well designed interface, in active development for over a decade (older than 7-Zip, despite the lower version number), and has two important features that the 7z format does not support yet (they are planned for the next major version:P ): recovery of corrupt archives and in-place editing of solid archives. The first is the main reason why the rar format is practically a standard for file-sharing. WinRAR is localized in 40 languages and offers a lifetime licence.


    http://www.kikizas.net/en/apps.7z.html
     

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    Anusha said:
    Have you been using WinRAR without multithreaded support??? ROFLMAO :rofl: :rofl:

    You are the idiot!!! :lol: You proved it yet again. :lol:

    We use multithreading in all WinRAR, WinZip and 7-zip and every software that supports them. n00b :P We are not new to PCs like you are :rolleyes:

    The test results I showed are all done on a single core CPU (because VirtualBox only allows one core to be assigned for virtual machine). So no improvement by using more threads.

    I think you are too fast so you miss good part.

    We are not new to PCs like you are :rolleyes:
    :eek: Ops.................. how do u know. cooliowiz nam oya kathawa kiwwath kamak ne
     

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    mkranga said:
    I think you are too fast so you miss good part.


    :eek: Ops.................. how do u know. cooliowiz nam oya kathawa kiwwath kamak ne
    I've been using PCs for about half of my life span...n00b :P
     

    coolioWiZ

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    OK :lol:

    Since I'm not having much time these days. I'll not try to reply point by point quote by quote.

    I've been using PC's since I'm 7 years something. Ranga, you know how old I'm. I'll not criticize your computer experience. But if your PC have some cool latest alienware, just use software which will extract you the most benefit of it. :)

    Since Anusha has replied to your idiotry, I'll not go on repeating points. :)
     

    mkranga

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    coolioWiZ said:
    OK :lol:

    Since I'm not having much time these days. I'll not try to reply point by point quote by quote.
    Y don’t you just tell the truth:P

    I've been using PC's since I'm 7 years something.Ranga, you know how old I'm.
    balagena giyama mama thamai methana Idiot.:rofl:

    But if your PC have some cool latest alienware, just use software which will extract you the most benefit of it. :)
    i do, but i sense something is miss.
    my pc config
    133MHz
    32mb ram
    256Kb cash
    its totally alienware.(if u want i can give screen cast):lol:
    Since Anusha has replied to your idiotry, I'll not go on repeating points. :)
    It will save you little bit.

    After all you cmons didn’t give true 7zip test result. &
    Failed to glorify 7zip by
    Vote:sorry:
    Performance:sorry:
    Facilities:sorry:
    UF interface:sorry:

    Do you come back to rar bcoz i need to get my co$$otion from Alexander & Roshal bro's
    .