What is Buddhism

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Gautama Buddha was the founder of Buddhism. His original name was Siddharth (meaning one who has accomplished). He was also called Sakyamuni, i.e. the sage of the tribe of Sakya. He was born in the year 563 B.C. in the village of Lumbini near Kapila Vastu, within the present borders of Nepal.

According to legend, an astrologer foretold his father, the king, that young Gautama would give up the throne and luxury and renounce the world the day he would see four things (i) an old man, (ii) a sick man, (iii) a diseased man and (iv) a dead man. Hence, the king confined Gautama in a special palace which was provided with all worldly pleasures. He was married at the age of sixteen to Yasoddhra.

At the age of 29 after the birth of his first son, Gautama on the same day saw an old man, a sick man, a diseased man and a dead man. The impact of the dark side of life made him renounce the world that same night and he left his wife and son and became a penniless wanderer.

He studied and practised Hindu discipline initially, and later, Jainism. For several years he observed rigorous fasting along with extreme self-mortification. On realising that tormenting his body did not bring him closer to true wisdom, he resumed eating normally and abandoned asceticism.

At the age of 35, one evening as he sat beneath a giant fig tree (Bodh tree), he felt that he had found the solution to his problem and felt that he had attained enlightenment. Thus, he came to be known as ‘Gautama’, ‘The Buddha’, or 'The Enlightened One'.

Later, he spent 45 years in preaching the truth that he felt he had discovered. He travelled from city to city bare-footed, clean-headed, with nothing more on his self than his saffron robe, walking stick and begging bowl. He died at the age of 80 in the year 483 BC.

Buddhism is divided into two sects viz. Hinayana and Mahayana.

I. BUDDHIST SCRIPTURES:

Historical criticism has proved that the original teachings of Buddha can never be known. It seems that Gautama Buddha’s teachings were memorized by his disciples. After Buddha’s death a council was held at Rajagaha so that the words of Buddha could be recited and agreed upon. There were differences of opinion and conflicting memories in the council. Opinion of Kayshapa and Ananda who were prominent disciples of Buddha were given preference. A hundred years later, a second council at Vesali was held. Only after 400 years, after the death of Buddha were his teachings and doctrines written down. Little attention was paid regarding its authenticity, genuineness and purity.

Buddhist Scriptures can be divided into Pali and Sanskrit Literature:

A. Pali Literature :

The Pali literature was monopolized by the Hinayana sect of Buddhism.

Tri Pitaka: The most important of all Buddhist scriptures is the TRI-PITAKA which is in Pali text. It is supposed to be the earliest recorded Buddhist literature which was written in the 1st Century B.C.

The TRI-PITAKA or Three Baskets of law is composed of 3 books:

1.Vinaya Pitaka: ‘Rules of Conduct’ : This is a book of discipline and mainly deals with rules of the order.

2. Sutta Pitaka: ‘Discourses’ : It is a collection of sermons and discourses of Gautama Buddha and the incidents in his life. It is the most important Pitaka and consists of five divisions known as Nikayas. Dhammapada is the most famous Pali literature and contains aphorisms and short statements covering the truth.

3. Abhidhamma: ‘Analysis of Doctrine’: This third basket contains meta physical doctrines and is known as Buddhist meta physicals. It is an analytical and logical elaboration of the first two pitakas. It contains analysis and exposition of Buddhist doctrine.

B. Sanskrit Literature:

Sanskrit literature was preferred by the Mahayana. Sanskrit literature has not been reduced to a collection or in Cannon like the Pali literature. Thus much of the original Sanskrit literature has been lost. Some were translated into other languages like Chinese and are now being re-translated into Sanskrit.

1. Maha vastu: ‘Sublime Story’: Mahavastu is the most famous work in Sanskrit which has been restored from its Chinese translation. It consists of voluminous collection of legendary stories.

2. Lalitavistara: Lalitavistara is one of the holiest of the Sanskrit literature. It belongs to the first century C.E., 500 years after the death of Buddha. It contains the miracles which the superstition loving people have attributed to Buddha.

II TEACHINGS OF BUDDHA:

A. Noble Truths:

The principal teachings of Gautama Buddha can be summarised in what the Buddhists call the ‘Four Noble Truths’:

First – There is suffering and misery in life .

Second – The cause of this suffering and misery is desire.

Third – Suffering and misery can be removed by removing desire.

Fourth – Desire can be removed by following the Eight Fold Path.

B. The Noble Eight Fold Path:

(i) Right Views

(ii) Right Thoughts

(iii) Right Speech

(iv) Right Actions

(v) Right Livelihood

(vi) Right Efforts

(vii) Right Mindfulness

(viii) Right Meditation

C. Nirvana:

Nirvana' literally means "blowing out" or "extinction". According to Buddhism, this is the ultimate goal of life and can be described in various words. It is a cessation of all sorrows, which can be achieved by removing desire by following the Eight Fold Path.

III PHILOSOPHY OF BUDDHISM IS SELF – CONTRADICTORY:

As mentioned earlier, the main teachings of Buddhism are summarised in the Four Noble Truths:

(i) There is suffering and misery in life.

(ii) The cause of suffering and misery is desire.

(iii) Suffering and misery can be removed by removing desire.

(iv) Desire can be removed by following the Eight Fold Path.

This Philosophy of Buddhism is self-contradictory or self-defeating because the third truth says ‘suffering and misery can be removed by removing desire’ and the fourth truth says that 'desire can be removed by following the Eight Fold Path'.

Now, for any person to follow Buddhism he should first have the desire to follow the Four Noble Truths and the Eight Fold Path. The Third great Noble Truth says that desire should be removed. Once you remove desire, how can we follow the Fourth Noble truth i.e. follow the Eight Fold Path unless we have a desire to follow the Eight Fold Path. In short desire can only be removed by having a desire to follow the Eight Fold Path. If you do not follow the Eight Fold Path, desire cannot be removed. It is self contradicting as well as self-defeating to say that desire will only be removed by continuously having a desire.

IV CONCEPT OF GOD

Buddha was silent about the existence or non-existence of God. It may be that since India was drowned in idol worship and anthropomorphism that a sudden step to monotheism would have been drastic and hence Buddha may have chosen to remain silent on the issue of God. He did not deny the existence of God. Buddha was once asked by a disciple whether God exists? He refused to reply. When pressed, he said that if you are suffering from a stomach ache would you concentrate on relieving the pain or studying the prescription of the physician. "It is not my business or yours to find out whether there is God – our business is to remove the sufferings of the world".

Buddhism provided Dhamma or the ‘impersonal law’ in place of God. However this could not satisfy the craving of human beings and the religion of self-help had to be converted into a religion of promise and hope. The Hinayana sect could not hold out any promise of external help to the people. The Mahayana sect taught that Buddha’s watchful and compassionate eyes are on all miserable beings, thus making a God out of Buddha. Many scholars consider the evolution of God within Buddhism as an effect of Hinduism.

Many Buddhists adopted the local god and thus the religion of ‘No-God’ was transformed into the religion of ‘Many-Gods’ – big and small, strong and weak and male and female. The ‘Man-God’ appears on earth in human form and incarnates from time to time. Buddha was against the caste-system prevalent in the Hindu society.
 

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  • IV CONCEPT OF GOD

    Buddha was silent about the existence or non-existence of God. It may be that since India was drowned in idol worship and anthropomorphism that a sudden step to monotheism would have been drastic and hence Buddha may have chosen to remain silent on the issue of God. He did not deny the existence of God. Buddha was once asked by a disciple whether God exists? He refused to reply. When pressed, he said that if you are suffering from a stomach ache would you concentrate on relieving the pain or studying the prescription of the physician. "It is not my business or yours to find out whether there is God – our business is to remove the sufferings of the world".

    Buddhism provided Dhamma or the ‘impersonal law’ in place of God. However this could not satisfy the craving of human beings and the religion of self-help had to be converted into a religion of promise and hope. The Hinayana sect could not hold out any promise of external help to the people. The Mahayana sect taught that Buddha’s watchful and compassionate eyes are on all miserable beings, thus making a God out of Buddha. Many scholars consider the evolution of God within Buddhism as an effect of Hinduism.

    Many Buddhists adopted the local god and thus the religion of ‘No-God’ was transformed into the religion of ‘Many-Gods’ – big and small, strong and weak and male and female. The ‘Man-God’ appears on earth in human form and incarnates from time to time. Buddha was against the caste-system prevalent in the Hindu society.
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    As far as I know this is what we all Muslims know about Buddhism and Buddha,just commenting "utter bulshit" never explain anything,then you have to say what is correct....I know You people will say negative abt this bec it was posted by non buddhist, this is the difference between You and us, when you say some misconception abt islam we used to explain you and prove it is wrong, when we Question you anything( it is not question but fact), Just a simple one word answer from you, showing your unhappiness , which never prove anything...
     
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    As far as I know this is what we all Muslims know about Buddhism and Buddha,just commenting "utter bulshit" never explain anything,then you have to say what is correct....I know You people will say negative abt this bec it was posted by non buddhist, this is the difference between You and us, when you say some misconception abt islam we used to explain you and prove it is wrong, when we Question you anything( it is not question but fact), Just a simple one word answer from you, showing your unhappiness , which never prove anything...

    unlike Islam, Buddhism is not a fashion.. Intentions behind this post is to insult buddhism. questions in this thread have already been answered in earlier threads.. And dont tell us about how you muslim people answer questions...
    If you really want to know about buddhism just for a second try to think freely.. dont blindly follow things just because they are in a thousand year old book.. :lol::lol:
     

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    As far as I know this is what we all Muslims know about Buddhism and Buddha,just commenting "utter bulshit" never explain anything,then you have to say what is correct....I know You people will say negative abt this bec it was posted by non buddhist, this is the difference between You and us, when you say some misconception abt islam we used to explain you and prove it is wrong, when we Question you anything( it is not question but fact), Just a simple one word answer from you, showing your unhappiness , which never prove anything...

    අයි ලව් ශ්‍රීලංකා මල්ලිට පාඩමක්,

    මම ඉස්ලාමයේ කරුණු ඉදිරිපත් කරද්දි , ඒවා දෙපාරක් මම විශ්වාස කළත් නැතත් නිවැරදි බව තහවුරු කරලා (උදාහරණ කුරාණයේ 79:30 ) තමයි පෝස්ට් කරන්නේ. ඔබතුමාට මේකට විරුද්ධව ජිහාඩය කරන්න ඔනේම නම් අපි කරන විදියටම කරන්න. ඔබේ ජිහාඩයට ජය .

    ( ජිහාඩය යනුවෙන් අදහස් වන්නේ ප්‍රතිවාදියා කරන දේයම කිරීමයි , උදා - කම්මුලට ගැහුවොත්, කෙසේ හෝ කම්මුලට ගැසීම )
     

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  • As far as I know this is what we all Muslims know about Buddhism and Buddha,just commenting "utter bulshit" never explain anything,then you have to say what is correct....I know You people will say negative abt this bec it was posted by non buddhist, this is the difference between You and us, when you say some misconception abt islam we used to explain you and prove it is wrong, when we Question you anything( it is not question but fact), Just a simple one word answer from you, showing your unhappiness , which never prove anything...
    ඒකම තමයි ඔය කට්ටියට තියෙන ප්‍රශ්නෙත්. සකීර් නායික් වගේ ගොබ්බයෙක් කියන කතා අහන ඔයගොල්ලෝ නිකම් වත් ත්‍රිපිටකය කියවලා බලන්න උත්සාහ කරන්නේ නෑ. මොනවට හරි උත්තර ඕනෙ නම් ත්‍රිපිටකයේ අදාල පාඨය සමග ඉදිරිපත් කරන්න. මොකක් හරි පෝස්ට් කරන්න කලින් ත්‍රිපිටකය කියවලා "ඩබල් චෙක්" කරල බලන්න එහෙම දෙයක් ඇත්තටම තියෙනවද කියල. ත්‍රිපිටකයේ තියෙනවා කියල හිතාගෙන දාන දේවල් වලට උත්තර හම්බවෙන්නේ නෑ. නත්නම් හම්බ වෙන උත්තර වලින් ඔයා නෝන්ඩි වෙයි. නැත්නම් "බුල් ශිට්" කියල කියයි.
     

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    සකීර් නායික් වගේ ගොබ්බයෙක් කියන කතා අහන ඔයගොල්ලෝ නිකම් වත් ත්‍රිපිටකය කියවලා බලන්න උත්සාහ කරන්නේ නෑ.

    අඩෝ , ඔන්න උඹ මට ගොබ්බය කිව්වා :sorry::( , මචෝ ඔය නම කියන කොට "ඉන්දියාවේ" කියන වචනේ මුලට දාල ලියපං හොද එකා වගේ ;) :D!
     

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    As far as I know this is what we all Muslims know about Buddhism and Buddha,just commenting "utter bulshit" never explain anything,then you have to say what is correct....I know You people will say negative abt this bec it was posted by non buddhist, this is the difference between You and us, when you say some misconception abt islam we used to explain you and prove it is wrong, when we Question you anything( it is not question but fact), Just a simple one word answer from you, showing your unhappiness , which never prove anything...

    I don't know how suitable I am to talk about Buddhism. But since I know a lot about Buddhism I'll just give couple of comments.

    (1) There's no need for a Buddhist to actually explain anything or defend anything from damma. They do not care whether you learn it or not, its up to you, if you wanna know.

    (2) Buddha rejected the concept of Intelligent design. There is no theist part in it. You can take my word on it.

    (3) Buddha however explain about beings that are not subject to our senses, These beings are said to have achieved a higher state of mind and exit in a different planes of consciousness. To explain one group of such beings he has used the word "GODs". This GOD is entirely different from the OmniMax GOD. Its just a name used to describe those beings.

    (4) Again, Buddha REJECTED THE CONCEPT OF INTELLIGENT DESIGN. He was quite clear on it, and he has answered questions about that, leaving not doubt for anyone. This concept was called "Issara Nimmanawadaya" (Design by Eishwara) those days where poeple believed Eishwara designed all humans, and things. Buddha ridiculed Issara Nimmanawadaya.

    (5) These days people say that Buddhism is theistic, specially(only) people who learned it recently. but this is not true. However a buddhist will not care what anyone would call it. The essence of buddhism is not in those concepts. Buddhism is for free thinkers and intelligent only. If one cannot take the first step to think for himself, there's no point in talking with him about Buddhism. For a theist maybe the first step would be to just think, is there a possibility that GOD does not exist?
     

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    Agreed

    I don't know how suitable I am to talk about Buddhism. But since I know a lot about Buddhism I'll just give couple of comments.

    (1) There's no need for a Buddhist to actually explain anything or defend anything from damma. They do not care whether you learn it or not, its up to you, if you wanna know.

    (2) Buddha rejected the concept of Intelligent design. There is no theist part in it. You can take my word on it.

    (3) Buddha however explain about beings that are not subject to our senses, These beings are said to have achieved a higher state of mind and exit in a different planes of consciousness. To explain one group of such beings he has used the word "GODs". This GOD is entirely different from the OmniMax GOD. Its just a name used to describe those beings.

    (4) Again, Buddha REJECTED THE CONCEPT OF INTELLIGENT DESIGN. He was quite clear on it, and he has answered questions about that, leaving not doubt for anyone. This concept was called "Issara Nimmanawadaya" (Design by Eishwara) those days where poeple believed Eishwara designed all humans, and things. Buddha ridiculed Issara Nimmanawadaya.

    (5) These days people say that Buddhism is theistic, specially(only) people who learned it recently. but this is not true. However a buddhist will not care what anyone would call it. The essence of buddhism is not in those concepts. Buddhism is for free thinkers and intelligent only. If one cannot take the first step to think for himself, there's no point in talking with him about Buddhism. For a theist maybe the first step would be to just think, is there a possibility that GOD does not exist?

    Agreed. But I am not a traditional Buddhist.
     

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    Many scholars consider the evolution of God within Buddhism as an effect of Hinduism.

    Many Buddhists adopted the local god and thus the religion of ‘No-God’ was transformed into the religion of ‘Many-Gods’ – big and small, strong and weak and male and female.

    A quick note on this. This is true in my opinion. We see buddhists worshiping GODs these days (Katharagama, Wishnu etc). You gotta understand few things.

    (1) Worshiping GODs have nothing to do with buddhism.

    (2) Buddhists who are human like everyone else, knowing that the creatures described as GODS are at a higher state of mind assumed they(GODS) are powerful and can do supernatural things. Therefore they began to worship those GODs.

    (3) These GODs do not represent an Omnimax GOD and the two concepts are entirely different.

    (4) The concept of BOSS GOD walking in earth from time to time as someone was not adopted by buddhists. That is a Hindu concept.

    (5) Again, worshiping of GODs, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BUDDHISM. It's a cultural thing.
     
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    unlike Islam, Buddhism is not a fashion.. Intentions behind this post is to insult buddhism. questions in this thread have already been answered in earlier threads.. And dont tell us about how you muslim people answer questions...
    If you really want to know about buddhism just for a second try to think freely.. dont blindly follow things just because they are in a thousand year old book.. :lol::lol:

    Brother ,who said you Islam is fashion.there is no intension of insult at all behind this post, we have never insulted you, unlike you people do, but what I know we told thts it.bt we dont know in your book what is ur history abt buddha and buddhism, if u have some something different u have to tell me what is that, then it can be reconciled after that. i dont know what u answered , i dont see any answer of u in earlier.
    I want to know of course that is why i posted question, now it is ur responsibility to put a reply if im wrong. just ur self telling u r good, ur religion is good, of course doesn't make sense, if u ask anyone let it be jew,christian,muslim,hindu,buddhist which is right religion they will say theirs. it is common. if u dont follow blindly, i guess u should have good knowledge abt buddhism, then we expect good reply from u unlike ths.
     
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    I don't know how suitable I am to talk about Buddhism. But since I know a lot about Buddhism I'll just give couple of comments.

    (1) There's no need for a Buddhist to actually explain anything or defend anything from damma. They do not care whether you learn it or not, its up to you, if you wanna know.

    (2) Buddha rejected the concept of Intelligent design. There is no theist part in it. You can take my word on it.

    (3) Buddha however explain about beings that are not subject to our senses, These beings are said to have achieved a higher state of mind and exit in a different planes of consciousness. To explain one group of such beings he has used the word "GODs". This GOD is entirely different from the OmniMax GOD. Its just a name used to describe those beings.

    (4) Again, Buddha REJECTED THE CONCEPT OF INTELLIGENT DESIGN. He was quite clear on it, and he has answered questions about that, leaving not doubt for anyone. This concept was called "Issara Nimmanawadaya" (Design by Eishwara) those days where poeple believed Eishwara designed all humans, and things. Buddha ridiculed Issara Nimmanawadaya.

    (5) These days people say that Buddhism is theistic, specially(only) people who learned it recently. but this is not true. However a buddhist will not care what anyone would call it. The essence of buddhism is not in those concepts. Buddhism is for free thinkers and intelligent only. If one cannot take the first step to think for himself, there's no point in talking with him about Buddhism. For a theist maybe the first step would be to just think, is there a possibility that GOD does not exist?

    See as i Know above u mentioned Point 3, refers to God.Buddha didn't want to say that.See even in Islam The existence and uniqueness of one and only one God is mentioned several times in the Qur’an but it is said further it is beyond human imagination &knowledge.
    Buddhist philosophy denies the existence of God, but bases itself on a few aspects of human morality and on escaping from sufferings of this world. Without any intellectual or scientific support, it rests upon the twin concepts of karma and reincarnation-the idea that human beings are continually reborn into this world, that their subsequent lives are shaped by their behavior in their previous ones. No Buddhist scripture considers the existence of a Creator, much less how the universe, the world and living things came to be. No Buddhist text describes how the universe was created from nothing; or how living things came into being; or how to explain the evidence, to be seen everywhere in this world, of an incomparable creation. According to the Buddhist deception, it is not even necessary to think about these things! The only important thing in life, Buddhist texts claim, is suppressing desires, revering Buddha, and escaping from suffering.

    As a religion, therefore, Buddhism suffers from a very narrow vision that keeps its believers from considering such basic questions as where they came from, or how the universe and all living things came to be. Indeed, it deters them from even thinking about these things and presses them into the narrow mold of their present earthly life.


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    I. BUDDHIST SCRIPTURES:

    Historical criticism has proved that the original teachings of Buddha can never be known. It seems that Gautama Buddha’s teachings were memorized by his disciples. After Buddha’s death a council was held at Rajagaha so that the words of Buddha could be recited and agreed upon. There were differences of opinion and conflicting memories in the council. Opinion of Kayshapa and Ananda who were prominent disciples of Buddha were given preference. A hundred years later, a second council at Vesali was held. Only after 400 years, after the death of Buddha were his teachings and doctrines written down. Little attention was paid regarding its authenticity, genuineness and purity.


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    This Philosophy of Buddhism is self-contradictory or self-defeating because the third truth says ‘suffering and misery can be removed by removing desire’ and the fourth truth says that 'desire can be removed by following the Eight Fold Path'.

    Now, for any person to follow Buddhism he should first have the desire to follow the Four Noble Truths and the Eight Fold Path. The Third great Noble Truth says that desire should be removed. Once you remove desire, how can we follow the Fourth Noble truth i.e. follow the Eight Fold Path unless we have a desire to follow the Eight Fold Path. In short desire can only be removed by having a desire to follow the Eight Fold Path. If you do not follow the Eight Fold Path, desire cannot be removed. It is self contradicting as well as self-defeating to say that desire will only be removed by continuously having a desire.
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    IV CONCEPT OF GOD

    Buddha was silent about the existence or non-existence of God. It may be that since India was drowned in idol worship and anthropomorphism that a sudden step to monotheism would have been drastic and hence Buddha may have chosen to remain silent on the issue of God. He did not deny the existence of God. Buddha was once asked by a disciple whether God exists? He refused to reply. When pressed, he said that if you are suffering from a stomach ache would you concentrate on relieving the pain or studying the prescription of the physician. "It is not my business or yours to find out whether there is God – our business is to remove the sufferings of the world".

    Buddhism provided Dhamma or the ‘impersonal law’ in place of God. However this could not satisfy the craving of human beings and the religion of self-help had to be converted into a religion of promise and hope. The Hinayana sect could not hold out any promise of external help to the people. The Mahayana sect taught that Buddha’s watchful and compassionate eyes are on all miserable beings, thus making a God out of Buddha. Many scholars consider the evolution of God within Buddhism as an effect of Hinduism.

    Many Buddhists adopted the local god and thus the religion of ‘No-God’ was transformed into the religion of ‘Many-Gods’ – big and small, strong and weak and male and female. The ‘Man-God’ appears on earth in human form and incarnates from time to time. Buddha was against the caste-system prevalent in the Hindu society.


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    A quick note on this. This is true in my opinion. We see buddhists worshiping GODs these days (Katharagama, Wishnu etc). You gotta understand few things.

    (1) Worshiping GODs have nothing to do with buddhism.

    (2) Buddhists who are human like everyone else, knowing that the creatures described as GODS are at a higher state of mind assumed they(GODS) are powerful and can do supernatural things. Therefore they began to worship those GODs.

    (3) These GODs do not represent an Omnimax GOD and the two concepts are entirely different.

    (4) The concept of BOSS GOD walking in earth from time to time as someone was not adopted by buddhists. That is a Hindu concept.

    (5) Again, worshiping of GODs, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BUDDHISM. It's a cultural thing.

    I doubt This religion is misunderstood by its followers,Buddhism as superstitious and false, at the same time, we must say that it contains some positive moral principles. Buddhist scriptures warn people against stealing, encourages them to be helpful to one another and cleanse themselves of selfishness and worldly ambitions. All of this suggests that Buddhism possibly began as a religion founded on God's revelation, only to become corrupted over the course of time.

    In the Qur'an, God tells us that to every nation, He sent messengers to deliver His warnings:


    We have sent you [Muhammad] with the truth bringing good news and giving warning. There is no community to which a warner has not come. (Qur'an, 35: 24)

    We sent a Messenger among every people saying: "Worship God and keep clear of all false gods." Among them were some whom God guided, but others received the misguidance they deserved… (Qur'an, 16: 36)
    Elsewhere in the Qur'an, He affirms that, "Every nation has a Messenger" (10: 47) and "every nation [is] summoned to its Book" (45: 28). These verses show us that God could certainly have sent a messenger to the Hindus; and one of them could have been Siddhartha Gautama. Buddhism resembles revealed religion in another one of its tenets: that throughout history, prophets have come to reveal the same truths to humanity, but after them, human followers have debased these religious truths. Indeed, after Gautama's death, his teaching may have lost its roots and become distorted in just this way, mixing with the religions and cultures of the countries to which it spread, and assimilating various local myths and superstitions. (But of course, only God knows the truth.)

    In such case, doubtless the real biography of Siddhartha Gautama would be much different from the mythological stories about him that we know today. There exist conflicting versions of his life story-a clear sign that the reality may have been probably quite different from the "history" we are now familiar with. Some of the true moral principles that Buddhism promotes lead us to believe that it might have developed from an originally monotheistic religion. Western scholar J. M. Robertson explains the Buddhist belief of the "chain of prophets":

    [Buddhism] did not claim to be a new teaching. The tradition holds that it had been promulgated many times before-that Gotama [sic] was only one of a long series of Buddhas who arise at intervals and who all teach the same doctrine. The names of twenty-four of such Buddhas who appeared before Gotama have been recorded . . . It was held that after the death of each Buddha, his religion flourishes for a time and then decays. After it is forgotten, a new Buddha emerges and preaches the lost Dhamma, or Truth.14

    All of this suggests that Buddhism could be one of the perverse, distorted beliefs that came to degenerate in the wake of the prophets. On the other hand, Buddhism's set, conservative structure reminds one of the classic distortions that can occur during the degeneration of the true religion.

    In the Qur'an, God says that Christians and Jews have fallen into the same trap and have smothered their religions with useless minutiae and prohibitions. For example, erroneous ideas in Buddhism about withdrawing from the world and subjecting one's self to pain also arose in Christianity as it degenerated through the years. God speaks of this error in the Qur'an (57: 27):

    Then We sent Our Messengers following in their footsteps and sent Jesus son of Mary after them, giving him the Gospel. We put compassion and mercy in the hearts of those who followed him. They invented monasticism-We did not prescribe it for them-purely out of desire to gain the pleasure of God, but even so, they did not observe it as it should have been observed. To those of them who believed, We gave their reward, but many of them are deviators.
    Buddhism may have been a true religion that was ruined after the development of a priesthood. It has certainly degenerated much more than Judaism or Christianity. However much these two religions have been distorted over the course of time, still they are devoted to God's revelations and found their faiths upon Him. Even if the essence of Buddhism actually comes from a true source, it has completely departed from that essence and become smothered in superstitious ritual, with only a few true moral principles left.

    Buddhism resembles the monotheistic faiths of Judaism, Christianity and Islam in another way: It, too, believes in the End Times and in one ultimate savior for humanity-Jews and Christians know him as the Messiah; and for Muslims, he is the Mahdi.


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    First of all my posts on Buddhism are ideas I developed and don't take them as a basis of Buddhism. Its up to you to understand and realize what it is about.

    See as i Know above u mentioned Point 3, refers to God.
    Not to the one GOD you believe(I'm tired of saying this, this is the third time.) He uses the name "Deviya" to define a creature. Just like we used the words "Aliya" or "Haraka". Buddha has divided the universe in to 31 (Number is not that important ) planes, all based on the state of mind. The word 'deviya' from sinhala is translated to the word English word GOD.
    Buddha didn't want to say that.
    As I have clearly explained in the previous post, buddha's ideas on OMNIMAX GOD was clear.

    Buddhist philosophy denies the existence of God
    True. But the post is contradictory. Earlier you said, Buddha did not deny the existence but was silent about it.(This happens when you copy paste from internet without reading. There's a lot of shit lying around in the internet machan)
    but bases itself on a few aspects of human morality

    So does every religion. Human morality is the question that every religion try to get a hand on, although the definition is subjective.

    and on escaping from sufferings of this world.
    The point of all religions is this. For an example, Islam talks about the paradise after this moral life, you may not give the exact definition suffering. But the whole idea is that you are preparing to go to a better place after this mortal life, an escape.

    Without any intellectual or scientific support, it rests upon the twin concepts of karma and reincarnation-the idea that human beings are continually reborn into this world, that their subsequent lives are shaped by their behavior in their previous ones.
    I'm not gonna talk about intellectuality or scientific basis of Buddhism, that's another topic. However whoever wrote this does not really know anything about buddhism. karma is just one of the basic ideas in buddhism. reincarnation is a word used for something buddha called 'punarbhawaya' but is not translated to the exact meaning. If you look a bit into 'abhidharma' buddha has explained why somethings can never be explained by mere words. The reason is that languages and words are a creation of man, and thereby the words and symbols("Namaroopa") are all subjective in a sense. The language is limited to words and symbols only understood/seen by man, because that's how he identify it. We identify a certain object as chair because its been named the chair. If we named that object 'table' we will identify it as a table. So the words are subjective and not real. But truth is objective and even without words one can understand it if he realize it. So you cannot just translate the word reincarnation to your own language and assume that is what buddha is talking about. He is talking about something like that but it is entirely different IMO. You will see the difference when you try to understand one another concept called, 'no-self'. Buddha explains there is really no-self, which begs to the question ok then what is reincarnated? Like I said it is beyond simple. Buddhism is only for those who are wise.

    Other note, karma and reincarnation(not the correct word) are just two concepts among many others, such as the concept of cause and effect, four noble truths, Eight fold paths, Ata lo dahama, etc. Also there are concepts buddha has not directly talked about but is in his teachings, Ex: Concept of no time (This is the name I call it).
    No Buddhist scripture considers the existence of a Creator, much less how the universe, the world and living things came to be.
    True to the best of my knowledge.

    No Buddhist text describes how the universe was created from nothing; or how living things came into being;
    Buddha does not talk about the origin of Universe.

    or how to explain the evidence, to be seen everywhere in this world, of an incomparable creation.
    I have been looking my whole life and never seen such evidence anywhere in the world.
    According to the Buddhist deception, it is not even necessary to think about these things!
    Not true. According to buddha it is not necessary to know these to attain Nirwana. However really important to think about these and learn. He has emphasized the importance of this free thinking. For an example: Only if you think about these, you will understand the theory of Intelligent Design is illogical. If you just continue to believe something because you were taught that from the age 6, without leaving no margin for doubt you become that illogical person. So in fact it is very important to think about those things.

    The only important thing in life, Buddhist texts claim, is suppressing desires, revering Buddha, and escaping from suffering.
    Not true. Buddha has talked in depth about family, friends, business, importance of health, environment, many other things and thereby instruction on how to live a good life.
    As a religion,
    I like to say that Buddhism is not a religion, it's a way of life. A religion is always based on faith, not free thinking.

    therefore, Buddhism suffers from a very narrow vision
    This is exactly the opposite. Buddhist view is far broader than any other religion. Most Abrahamic religions narrow their belief to the concept of creationism and they do not venture to explore anything beyond that. Hence their narrow thinking is limited to supernatural and faith. Whereas in buddhism it is encouraged to learn everything and decide yourself.


    that keeps its believers from considering such basic questions as where they came from, or how the universe and all living things came to be.
    Already explained.


    Indeed, it deters them from even thinking about these things and presses them into the narrow mold of their present earthly life.
    This is entirely wrong. Buddhism is a philosophy that explores the nature of universe. It just does not base anything on faith, it has a logical foundation.

    Machan, I really can't reply to copy paste posts(Like this one from the second sentence). I don't have that much time to spend on this. But come up with your own ideas and maybe we can discuss. But there's no need to debate. When it comes to buddhism, we can always agree to disagree and move on.
     

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    Brother ,who said you Islam is fashion.there is no intension of insult at all behind this post, we have never insulted you, unlike you people do, but what I know we told thts it.bt we dont know in your book what is ur history abt buddha and buddhism, if u have some something different u have to tell me what is that, then it can be reconciled after that. i dont know what u answered , i dont see any answer of u in earlier.
    I want to know of course that is why i posted question, now it is ur responsibility to put a reply if im wrong. just ur self telling u r good, ur religion is good, of course doesn't make sense, if u ask anyone let it be jew,christian,muslim,hindu,buddhist which is right religion they will say theirs. it is common. if u dont follow blindly, i guess u should have good knowledge abt buddhism, then we expect good reply from u unlike ths.


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