පුදුම මොලකාරයෙක් ඇවිල්ල ඉන්නෙ බුදු දහම කියල දෙන්න. ඇයි දැන් ඉස්ලාම් කියන්න බයයිද???
අර පැතිලි පොලවෙන් චාටෙර් වෙච්ච උම්බ ආයිත් නාගන්නද යන්නෙ මෙතන
හත් ඉලව්වයි අය්යා ඕක ගොඩකට අමතක වෙලා තිබ්බේ... ෆ්ලැට් අර්ත්...




පුදුම මොලකාරයෙක් ඇවිල්ල ඉන්නෙ බුදු දහම කියල දෙන්න. ඇයි දැන් ඉස්ලාම් කියන්න බයයිද???
අර පැතිලි පොලවෙන් චාටෙර් වෙච්ච උම්බ ආයිත් නාගන්නද යන්නෙ මෙතන




First of all my posts on Buddhism are ideas I developed and don't take them as a basis of Buddhism. Its up to you to understand and realize what it is about.
I should be more careful in understanding & realizing based on your idea, after all u r normal person like me. I assume u r not a scholar of any religion.
Not to the one GOD you believe(I'm tired of saying this, this is the third time.) He uses the name "Deviya" to define a creature. Just like we used the words "Aliya" or "Haraka". Buddha has divided the universe in to 31 (Number is not that important ) planes, all based on the state of mind. The word 'deviya' from sinhala is translated to the word English word GOD.
Still I dont understand, if it is not the god which i believe in, then what.explain me little further.r u trying to say God has different form and different definition which u r referring to. you r confusing me lot..
As I have clearly explained in the previous post, buddha's ideas on OMNIMAX GOD was clear.
OMNIMAX GOD means God is everywhere right.Can u explain how it is, can u explain me little further so i can reply u.
True. But the post is contradictory. Earlier you said, Buddha did not deny the existence but was silent about it.(This happens when you copy paste from internet without reading. There's a lot of shit lying around in the internet machan)
Yes I said Buddha didnt deny abt existence of God, But budhism philosophy deny the God.This is what I said, Maybe u didnt read properly or misunderstood.
actually what buddhism philosophy say is not exactly what buddha did, of course doubt over its purity unlike Quran.yes i refer some authenticated website to get some knowledge , not to abuse other religion bt for learning.unlike others do to abuse the religions wrongly.yeah if u feel lot of shit against buddhism means just imagine how many shit abt Islam as Islam is the challenging religion to the west and world currently.
So does every religion. Human morality is the question that every religion try to get a hand on, although the definition is subjective.
The point of all religions is this. For an example, Islam talks about the paradise after this moral life, you may not give the exact definition suffering. But the whole idea is that you are preparing to go to a better place after this mortal life, an escape.
In order to get paradise we strive,abide and worship. This meanings are different from suffering.I don't think u can justify in all the case by saying english translation is wrong then wat..
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Those who are not priests nevertheless assist priests in the collection of offerings, believing that they will gain merits for a future life. Buddhist priests walk the streets early in the mornings, with bowls in their hands, accepting offerings from the people. But this superstitious practice, done in the name of worship will do them no good in this world or the next, unless God wills otherwise.
I'm not gonna talk about intellectuality or scientific basis of Buddhism, that's another topic. However whoever wrote this does not really know anything about buddhism. karma is just one of the basic ideas in buddhism. reincarnation is a word used for something buddha called 'punarbhawaya' but is not translated to the exact meaning. If you look a bit into 'abhidharma' buddha has explained why somethings can never be explained by mere words. The reason is that languages and words are a creation of man, and thereby the words and symbols("Namaroopa") are all subjective in a sense. The language is limited to words and symbols only understood/seen by man, because that's how he identify it. We identify a certain object as chair because its been named the chair. If we named that object 'table' we will identify it as a table. So the words are subjective and not real. But truth is objective and even without words one can understand it if he realize it. So you cannot just translate the word reincarnation to your own language and assume that is what buddha is talking about. He is talking about something like that but it is entirely different IMO. You will see the difference when you try to understand one another concept called, 'no-self'. Buddha explains there is really no-self, which begs to the question ok then what is reincarnated? Like I said it is beyond simple. Buddhism is only for those who are wise.
whoever wrote dont know anything abt buddhism, so shall i consider you have better knowledge abt buddhism..
Then what is the meaning of reincarnation which buddha refering to.have ur scholars established something with regard to that meaning.anyone can say their religion is for those who are wise, how can it be so? is it so weak which even cant be explained to someone, then how buddhist are going to spread their religion or way of life to at least an literate person. See u cant expect everyone to become like buddha & undertand the things whatver u r telling.
Other note, karma and reincarnation(not the correct word) are just two concepts among many others, such as the concept of cause and effect, four noble truths, Eight fold paths, Ata lo dahama, etc. Also there are concepts buddha has not directly talked about but is in his teachings, Ex: Concept of no time (This is the name I call it).
As I know it is reincarnation, if it is not explain me little further abt the process.
True to the best of my knowledge.
Buddha does not talk about the origin of Universe.
OK agree. But Quran & bible talked that and many scientific fact long time back which was only recently invented by scientist, how come Author of the Quran & bible knows abt this thousands of years before. Have u ever thought abt this...
I have been looking my whole life and never seen such evidence anywhere in the world.
Not true. According to buddha it is not necessary to know these to attain Nirwana. However really important to think about these and learn. He has emphasized the importance of this free thinking. For an example: Only if you think about these, you will understand the theory of Intelligent Design is illogical. If you just continue to believe something because you were taught that from the age 6, without leaving no margin for doubt you become that illogical person. So in fact it is very important to think about those things.
Not really, we were not taught just like that, we used to check the base and cross check up with established fact as well.FYI whatever fact which is established by scientist sofar,exactly matching with Quran. the study of Quran is not simple as Academic studies, I dont think it is not appropriate to say we have no free thinking.
Not true. Buddha has talked in depth about family, friends, business, importance of health, environment, many other things and thereby instruction on how to live a good life.
I like to say that Buddhism is not a religion, it's a way of life. A religion is always based on faith, not free thinking.
What is the bench mark for your free thinking, see what is good for you may not be good for me or society. so free thinking is not always correct, always there is a limitation for free thinking.
OK.Buddhism is way of life. saying dont steal, dont lie, dont cheat, dont kill so on ..of course all the religion say, but apart from it say abt way of life, it even say abt other things... understand religion is mix of way of life and attain the happy in the life after death as well.
This is exactly the opposite. Buddhist view is far broader than any other religion. Most Abrahamic religions narrow their belief to the concept of creationism and they do not venture to explore anything beyond that. Hence their narrow thinking is limited to supernatural and faith. Whereas in buddhism it is encouraged to learn everything and decide yourself.
Far broader concept means wat? everyone has same size of brain isn't it. it is not limited at all.but as u say have our own thinking and decide our self will not work out. as i said above what is correct for me, not correct for u, so this concept is wrong, buddhism doesnt have any bench mark for anything.
I dont feel only buddhist r encouraged to learn, then scientist who are living on the earth should be only buddhist isn't it.
in the name freewill thinking this is what buddhist priest them self doing.rememeber not normal buddhist even.
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(Left) A Buddhist priest set himself on fire to protest some actions by the government in Saigon. This one photograph is enough to show the dark spiritual state and perverse understanding that Buddhism leads to.
(Right) Buddhists spend their days performing empty, soul-darkening works that will bring no benefit in either this world or the afterlife. But Islam offers people well-being, beauty and contentment in this life and the next, and forbids any kind of practice that goes against human nature.
Already explained.
This is entirely wrong. Buddhism is a philosophy that explores the nature of universe. It just does not base anything on faith, it has a logical foundation.
What is logical, I need to know that...dont just simply say all natural,,which is an easy answer
Machan, I really can't reply to copy paste posts(Like this one from the second sentence). I don't have that much time to spend on this. But come up with your own ideas and maybe we can discuss. But there's no need to debate. When it comes to buddhism, we can always agree to disagree and move on.
are u not a buddhist,when u mentioned u can agree & disagree, I got doubt. machan as long as it is fact, no harm in even copying and pasting.I am not abusing wrongly as others do in this forum.
True to the best of my knowledge.
Buddha does not talk about the origin of Universe.
Omimax God is a GOD with following qualities
OMNIMAX GOD means God is everywhere right.Can u explain how it is, can u explain me little further so i can reply u.
whoever wrote dont know anything abt buddhism, so shall i consider you have better knowledge abt buddhism..
Then what is the meaning of reincarnation which buddha refering to.have ur scholars established something with regard to that meaning.
anyone can say their religion is for those who are wise, how can it be so?
is it so weak which even cant be explained to someone, then how buddhist are going to spread their religion or way of life to at least an literate person.
See u cant expect everyone to become like buddha & undertand the things whatver u r telling.
OK agree. But Quran & bible talked that and many scientific fact long time back which was only recently invented by scientist, how come Author of the Quran & bible knows abt this thousands of years before. Have u ever thought abt this...
What is the bench mark for your free thinking,
so free thinking is not always correct
Far broader concept means wat? everyone has same size of brain isn't it. it is not limited at all.
but as u say have our own thinking and decide our self will not work out. as i said above what is correct for me, not correct for u, so this concept is wrong, buddhism doesnt have any bench mark for anything.
I dont feel only buddhist r encouraged to learn, then scientist who are living on the earth should be only buddhist isn't it.
Whatever done by anyone monk or not has nothing to do with Buddhism. Don't judge the religion by followers. (This was told to me by a muslim)
in the name freewill thinking this is what buddhist priest them self doing.rememeber not normal buddhist even.
OK.Buddhism is way of life. saying dont steal, dont lie, dont cheat, dont kill so on
You are kidding right? Other religions say the same????..of course all the religion say,
So does Buddhism, a way of life means how to get the best from this life also. And how to understand universe and its functionality. How to understand life. everything.but apart from it say abt way of life, it even say abt other things... understand religion is mix of way of life and attain the happy in the life after death as well.
Follow the link to get the definition of logicWhat is logical, I need to know that...dont just simply say all natural,,which is an easy answer
Is this relevant? I have a fairly good knowledge on Buddhism, Do you really need to label me? I'm a Sri Lankan. That is my religion.are u not a buddhist,when u mentioned u can agree & disagree, I got doubt.
True. I just dont want to talk about someone else's ideas. I'd rather talk with you.machan as long as it is fact, no harm in even copying and pasting.I am not abusing wrongly as others do in this forum.
this is my first post in elakiri....i just couldn't stand you asking the same "GOD" related question again and again from that ancientglory guy like a real ignorant person despite he explained it well.......i'll only answer the "GOD" question of yours coz i don't have time to waste regarding others....but first of all remember,this is not islam....so if you want an answer,you should first come out of your religious thoughts,be neutral,and then listen....because,unlike muslims,for buddhists there is a life without God....
Truthwatch, Welcome to Elakiri, I know buddhism is not at all Islam, OK It is not that Im n Islam, how did u know I was not in neutral.of course I wanted to know wats your God concept, not your people's confusing philosophy
buddha clearly refused the concept of a "creator"/in your words "God".....in buddha's own words,in his dharma,in all buddhist scriptures and practically anywhere where buddhism is,it teaches as there's NO "creator"/in your words "God" exists......me as a buddhist telling you this.....so now you have to accept it,ok?....as a muslim,you cannot know better than a buddhist about buddhism noh....don't take things from internet and say that's the truth(that's what you will say about your religion also)....so this is final..this is what even a buddhist monk will tell you.........so i don't want to see you repeating this anywhere again....ok??...i can't explain it more than this and hope you will not repeat it.....you have no reason to...
OK, If something is logical I have no hesitation in accepting whether u r buddhist or not. regardless from where the source, let it be internet or watever if u have logical information u need not bother abt that.as long as im not satisfied with answers, I may repeat it provided if any one willing to reply me.if no one replies me also, I have no problem. after all i think Buddhism is philosophy which has a Buddhas word and which includes others ideas as well.
so now your biggest problem is the word "GODs".....isn't this an english word???english people are christians....so they believe in a creator whom they call as the "God"....that's why they put that word in their english vocabulary.....but buddhism is not in english..it's in "pali"....buddha spoke pali...not english....so this word "God" is not relevant for us in the first place....in buddhism,buddha describes some beings called "deva","brahma",,ect(in pali) who has higher mental and living states than human beings..they are no way considered as creators or any such people,they are just some life forms in another dimension....because those names of those beings were in pali,we needed to have an english translation to describe them in english,so we adopted this normal general word "GODs" to call them in english....because there's no any other word to call them in the english language....it's just a row word...it's not what it means in english....got it??.....so this discussion of yours is simple.....nothing hard to understand...i hope you got it atleast now.....but even after all these explanations,if you still tell that you didn't understand,then i can't help you ma friend.....it's the brain limit of yours....
OK I agree God english word is not the correct word, that is why even we dont call Allah as GOD, But ALLAH. So No problem in accepting that. Now tell me who is the higher mental and living states than human being, Can I take this as something Similar to GODS and angels.so my doubt is now u have faith in something similar to GOD. Am i correct??
but a question will come to your mind(as a muslim) that if there's no god,how come this world exsist....well that's your islamic beliefs.....that's why i said above before starting,that you have to be neutral in your thoughts to expect an answer....if you stick to the thought that your religion is the only true one(like muslims always do,starting from zarkir naik),then you will not come to any satisfying answer....and you will be just wasting others time here......
I Dont want to waste anybody's time here.yeah Tell me how world exist as per your buddhism belief.I can be neutral , if u can also be neutral while replying it is better.
and finally,you are just asking these things not for the purpose of learning anything of buddhism as it's one of the worst "sins" to accept any other religion other than islam for you people....so you are justing asking these for the sole purpose of "refuting".....most of the people here know that...so that's why others are not willing to answer you.....have a nice day..
Not so, In Quran it is said discuss with non believers, but abusing the other religion are big sin and not accepted.
Not really to refuting the buddhism, actually if u see in the forum only buddhist guys are abusing the islam, i have not seen any of the muslims insult buddhism in this forum.(as u r new to forum u may not know this, u may see the history in this forum).Others r not willing to answer not bec my purpose wrong but they themself have doubt abt ur way of life. and they keep on concentrating on abusing the islam.
i think buddha talked alot about the universe....it's in "abhidharma"....he has even talked about different galaxies..but he told that this subject is infinite and not to waste time studying about this world.......
Can u give me some reference from your Scriptures in which Buddha has talked abt SUN for example. if u have some difficulties at least give me some reference which is in line with current established scientific fact. because i didnt have chance to see anything sofar from Buddhist scriptures, but I got chance to see Quran ,Bible as well.
some issue that these "God believing people"(specially muslims) make is that the buddha was "silent" when people asked about the beginning of this universe.....they use it in kind of a way to insult as to show that buddha didn't know about it,so he kept silent......but that wasn't the case......buddha said there're 4 things that a normal human mind will not understand and only a buddha will understand.....those 4 are
1)subject of universe
2)subject of creatures
3)subject of buddha
4)subject of karma
a human will never get to understand these things.....it's because the human brain has limits.....(so naturally,some people put those things upon an unseen God when they can't explain them)......
People never insulted you, U imagine so. because we found that buddhism only depend on suffer and Good deeds(dont lie,kill,steal and so on), so we were surprised to feel something odd.coz all the religions saying abt good deeds and way of the life. BUT apart from saying that other religion even saying abt many things which is not there in the Buddism philosophy, that may be the reason others question you.How come You say only Buddha will understand if u say God will understand i dont have problem, when u say Buddha Im having doubt. Buddha is a human like u and me though he is enlightened one.
so i think all the buddhsts here should be aware of this fact and should not say that buddha was simply "silent" when he was asked about the universe....instead he knew that it will not be able to understand by the people and it will not be advantageous in any way to get enlightenment......because otherwise it will be a good ground for some religion people to insult buddhism.....
You are correct here,.You are saying exactly what all the prophets said (david,jesus,moses,mohammed) all told same with regard to the question posted by people at that time how the Allah looks like. when u told abt this some doubt i get to mind is, why Buddha cant be one of the prophet who came to the earth.Coz, Allah says in Quran he sent 124000 prophets to earth time to time, But only by name only some are mentioned.
We have sent you [Muhammad] with the truth bringing good news and giving warning. There is no community to which a warner has not come. (Qur'an, 35: 24)
and I dont know what is your idea abt According to the Gospel of Buddha by Carus pg. 217 and 218 (From Ceylon sources):
"Ananda said to the Blessed One, ‘Who shall teach us when thou art gone?'
And the Blessed one replied, 'I am not the first Buddha who came upon the earth nor shall I be the last. In due time another Buddha will arise in the world, a holy one, a supremely enlightened one, endowed with wisdom in conduct, auspicious, knowing the universe, an incomparable leader of men, a master of angels and mortals. He will reveal to you the same eternal truths, which I have taught you. He will preach his religion, glorious in its origin, glorious at the climax and glorious at the goal. He will proclaim a religious life, wholly perfect and pure such as I now proclaim. His disciples will number many thousands while mine number many hundreds.'
Ananda said, 'How shall we know him?'
The Blessed one replied, 'He will be known as Maitreya'."
The Sanskrit word ‘Maitreya’ or its equivalent in Pali ‘Metteyya’ means loving, compassionate, merciful and benevolent. It also means kindness and friendliness, sympathy, etc. One Arabic word which is equivalent to all these words is ‘Rahmat’. In Surah Al-Anbiya:
"We sent thee not, but as a mercy for all creatures."
[Al-Qur’an 21:107]
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was called the merciful, which is ‘Maitri’.
The words Mercy and Merciful are mentioned in the Holy Qur’an no less than 409 times.
Every chapter of the Glorious Qur’an, except Chapter 9, i.e. Surah Taubah begins with the beautiful formula, 'Bismillah Hir-Rahman Nir-Rahim', which means 'In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful'.
The Word Muhammad is also spelt as ‘Mahamet’ or ‘Mahomet’ and in various other ways in different languages. The word ‘Maho’ or ‘Maha’ in Pali and Sanskrit mean Great and Illustrious and ‘Metta’ means mercy. Therefore ‘Mahomet’ means ‘Great Mercy’.
People whoever came after Buddha misunderstood the religion and following the way wat their forefathers did,...I KNOW U WILL NOT ACCEPT THIS. BUT I DONT MIND ..
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පිටියෙ_අප්පු;7377760 said:show and prove the abuses of islam by the buddhists
Machan, are u new to this site..Just go back & see some thread and replies posted by buddhists.specially see Big Boss 'EX MUSLIM AHMED'..though we keep on not responding him. he brings up with some new stories. But thts not the motive for our question abt buddhism. we always like to be friends of yours. after all we r humans and srilankans as well.
පිටියෙ_අප්පු;7378247 said:unfortunately we don't consider about you in such way. Because of the following incidents.
1. Former Minister Ashroff's totally useless yet desperate attempt to humiliate Buddhism ( with his poems )
I dont know abt this poem. Do u have any poem that did humiliated Buddhism.As I heard it was just allege.But for sure I dont know.
2. Ashroff's poor PR attempt of having debate with Ven Soma Thero and spreading rumours about the outcome of the debate.
Again as i heard some buddhist extermist group was calling ashraf discriminating the sinhalese in the ampara district. that is why they had discussion, not the debate. I was small at that time, remember of watching that.But it was so peaceful discussion.
3. Your fellow Muslim Mr Anvar Manatunga's open abuses of Buddhism.
I dont know what abuse. but ALL Muslims are not responsible for one person activities.
these things tells us that muslims are having a real PAIN IN THE ASS about Buddhism.
Not so.Why need to get pain??
You are trying to overpopulate and challenge the Sinhalese majority.
haaha!!, dont be childish!are u kidding
You are openly abusing Buddhism.
U have big list it seems..we never want to abuse. No advantage at all
if you are really Sri Lankans , you never do these things.
Of course we are srilankans, srilanka is belong to everyone.no doubt in that
So i regret to inform you Mr I Love Sri Lanka , we don't consider you as Sri Lankans.
This is what u said to Hindus openly, You discriminated & killed them. That caused lot of problems in our country's development over the years. my request you majority people to stop permanently this type of Statement, which will never be healthy for our country. Dont create another LTTE, by discriminating minority. lets develop our country first........
Buddha was silent about the existence or non-existence of God.
This is what u said to Hindus openly, You discriminated & killed them. That caused lot of problems in our country's development over the years. my request you majority people to stop permanently this type of Statement, which will never be healthy for our country. Dont create another LTTE, by discriminating minority. lets develop our country first........
පිටියෙ_අප්පු;7378574 said:We are not afraid of another LTTE or black july , we are ready for it.
We don't want to develop our country while refugees and terrorists like you are in our country.
We want to eliminate all the terrorists before we develop our country.
ARE U CALLING FOR A WAR WITH U?? HERE I UNDERSTAND HOW SHORT MINDED PEOPLE YOU ARE, WE ARE CALLING FOR PEACE & DEVELOPING COUNTRY..U DONT ACCEPT IT.
ARE U CALLING FOR A WAR WITH U?? HERE I UNDERSTAND HOW SHORT MINDED PEOPLE YOU ARE, WE ARE CALLING FOR PEACE & DEVELOPING COUNTRY..U DONT ACCEPT IT.
පිටියෙ_අප්පු;7378574 said:We are not afraid of another LTTE or black july , we are ready for it.
We don't want to develop our country while refugees and terrorists like you are in it.
We want to eliminate all the terrorists before we develop our country.