Who owns Sinhala / Tamil new year?

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    nEoN_wHitE said:
    ha ha true true macho.. coz u can see how many celebrities and also normal gals in US goin after old wealthy ppl right.. dats coz they r goin after da money and nothing else.. ofcouse dey say dere in love dt dats only for money right..
    bt those days as nash dude sed it was kinda official ya...
    dey did it and everybody knew dat.. and it is for money and "Raja Sapa"
    :):D


    well true old days all these grl and ladies were marrried holding royal marriages,
    and 2day its as hora genu so its a bit different :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
     

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    Nice Discussion..

    @ Nash_Node>>

    I agree with some of your points. But don't go off topic please. That's why I put this in the PRO section. Coz I knew some people might try to gain political benefits by this by talking irrelevant stuff.

    For your record, this article isn't from Mahasohon kalliya. Even I don't like that much of extremism. Posted this to obtain other people's thought and I really don't know how Mahasohona is related to this.

    So pls stick to the topic!
     

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    nEoN_wHitE

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    x-pert said:
    Machang Lord Krishna's birthday falls aroung July, Aug, Sep.

    Some articles say it's September. And some scientific evidences prove that it's on the 8th day of Hindu month of "Sharwan" which is in our calendar Aug-September.

    I didn't find any article mentioning it's in April machang.. Ask your friend again :)

    http://hinduism.about.com/library/weekly/aa082000a.htm
    http://hinduism.about.com/b/2004/09/02/happy-birthday-krishna-2.htm
    http://www.eaglespace.com/spirit/janamashtami.php
    ohh is it.. ya theres another guy should ask from him also.. bt he sed dat dey also make some sweet stuff on dis day:):D

    PS.
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    bt he deffa sed it's not their new yr.. he sed their new yr is dipawali :)
     
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    @ Sriflipflop

    Well., that was a long big explannation, but I find that it was merely based on the observation of "Ariyasen Ahubudu"

    I don't whether you guys going to kick me for that. But I personally think (OK.. PERSONALLY) Ariyesen has an issue with everything and too much of whimpy woe.

    May be it's just my Personal preference, but I tend to stay pretty clear of hind sighted extremist the like of Ariyasen. :)

    It's just comical the way people try to bring about RELIGION to any damn thing these days. I mean can anyone of you point out to any "religiouse" reference during the New Year celebrations?

    I am not a budhdhist and I don't celebrate the April New year. But as far as I know, the omen's during the festival says "Observe religiouse activities" without marginalizing WHICH religion that they are refering it too.

    So., extremist hind sighted woe's like Ariyasen tends drag Buddhism into each and everything that they see fancy..............which in my opinion is just pure stupidness.


    Continuing on the same,

    If Ariyasen like to drag buddism into it, then someone should reming him that the concept of "new year" at present if soley based on "chasing away the bad omens of the previouse year and bringout a new fresh begining to the new year" where you observe and go through all that good practices......

    so, in view of that, Ariyasen should be reminded that it's budhdhas' preaching NOT TO trust on Good / Bad omens where a follower should only trust the Dhamma and Dhamma only it self (correct me if I am wrong)

    So what should be the "point" Ariyasen is trying to make?

    New year is based on buddhist practises, but on the other side, buddha specifically noted NOT TO DO THE VERY SAME THING YOU ARE DOING as "celebrating new year"

    again.. it's just personal view of the people like "Ariyasen" which I steer clear at any cost
     

    Nash_Node

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    maleemsg said:
    We Report You Decide!:P :P :P
    any one has their right to express their toughts!
    we dont need to worry about all of we got a brain so we can use it and decide what to accept and what to except!:P

    But no one has the right to utter fales and pollute people's mind..............epecially things regarding Religion and Cast:angry:

    Unless they them selves can PROVE it's CORRECT !!
     

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    Nash_Node said:
    @ Sriflipflop

    Well., that was a long big explannation, but I find that it was merely based on the observation of "Ariyasen Ahubudu"

    I don't whether you guys going to kick me for that. But I personally think (OK.. PERSONALLY) Ariyesen has an issue with everything and too much of whimpy woe.

    May be it's just my Personal preference, but I tend to stay pretty clear of hind sighted extremist the like of Ariyasen. :)

    It's just comical the way people try to bring about RELIGION to any damn thing these days. I mean can anyone of you point out to any "religiouse" reference during the New Year celebrations?

    I am not a budhdhist and I don't celebrate the April New year. But as far as I know, the omen's during the festival says "Observe religiouse activities" without marginalizing WHICH religion that they are refering it too.

    So., extremist hind sighted woe's like Ariyasen tends drag Buddhism into each and everything that they see fancy..............which in my opinion is just pure stupidness.


    Continuing on the same,

    If Ariyasen like to drag buddism into it, then someone should reming him that the concept of "new year" at present if soley based on "chasing away the bad omens of the previouse year and bringout a new fresh begining to the new year" where you observe and go through all that good practices......

    so, in view of that, Ariyasen should be reminded that it's budhdhas' preaching NOT TO trust on Good / Bad omens where a follower should only trust the Dhamma and Dhamma only it self (correct me if I am wrong)

    So what should be the "point" Ariyasen is trying to make?

    New year is based on buddhist practises, but on the other side, buddha specifically noted NOT TO DO THE VERY SAME THING YOU ARE DOING as "celebrating new year"

    again.. it's just personal view of the people like "Ariyasen" which I steer clear at any cost

    you know much about our history..
    but you cant read sinhala nee..
    he didn't define is as buddhist practice...
    what he did was pointing out how the tamil part came..
    and for that he got some example from buddhist literature...(not all of them)
    i think you didnt read it all so do it..
     

    Djpata

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    ok wht i think abt this matter in kinda diff way ...
    All this Sinhala/Hindu New Year or Sinhala/tamil New Year , Christmas,Deepawali,Hadji etc or wht ever celebrations ppl doing in this world, they do them cz they hv beliefs ... cz we hv beliefs ... we dnt knw exactly this is true or false bt we do hv beliefs this is like this and that ... why cz our parents do believe them, well educated professors says it ,our religion leaders says it etc or in any manner we do ... bt we hvnt seen these things are really true or false cz we dnt hv proof ... do those people who made us to believe this hv seen ny proof for these things? according to my knwledge "No" (may be im wrong,if so pls do correct me) so this is also another belief of our life tym ... nyone can this is ours ny urs ... bt can nyone proove it? i dnt think so ... bt jst think smething like this if there is a family Husband is a Christian and Wife is Buddhist bt they do celebrate Sinhala New Year and Christmas Both ... they do go to temple and also they are going to church ... why do they do like that? cz both of them believe both religions ... otherwise husband can wait a side while his wife celebrate sinhala new year and same apply to the wife ... so wht will happen to their children? ... nothing matters until we stop belief this whould be like this or that ... i think nyone can celebrate this ... jst think we do celebrate January 1st as New Year and we do same in April 14th? ny diff? if we really think April 14th is the real sinhala New year and our year starts from April 14th and its end on next yr april 13th so why do we celebrate it 1st of January and why do we celebrate 31st December night? (bt afaik according to astrology they do believe sinhala new yr starts from 14th april nt in 1st of January)
    there are so many ppl who celebrate sinhala new yr,deepawali,christmas all and they all so go to kovila,temple and church ... cz why? they do belive all these three religions and they only get the good from those religions ... cz if we look deep in to all religions every religion says same thing in diff ways ...:yes:

    *if im wrong pls do correct me nyone ... really appriciate it and sorry for my bad english
     

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    x-pert said:
    OK. Nothing personal or whatever.. Got this mail from my brother. So thought of putting it here for your opinions and comments.

    Note: Posted in PRO section. So proper comments only :)

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    Personaly I think the new year should be for both Sinhalese and Tamils.Because it is a good way and the best way to show the world that Sri Lankans are united irrespective of their Race / Religion. Because Sri Lanka doesn't belong only to Sinhala people.

    YES BRO MAEKA SINHALAYA GE AURUDDAK......................
     

    mbj

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    Nash_Node said:
    @ Sriflipflop

    Well., that was a long big explannation, but I find that it was merely based on the observation of "Ariyasen Ahubudu"

    I don't whether you guys going to kick me for that. But I personally think (OK.. PERSONALLY) Ariyesen has an issue with everything and too much of whimpy woe.

    May be it's just my Personal preference, but I tend to stay pretty clear of hind sighted extremist the like of Ariyasen. :)

    It's just comical the way people try to bring about RELIGION to any damn thing these days. I mean can anyone of you point out to any "religiouse" reference during the New Year celebrations?

    I am not a budhdhist and I don't celebrate the April New year. But as far as I know, the omen's during the festival says "Observe religiouse activities" without marginalizing WHICH religion that they are refering it too.

    So., extremist hind sighted woe's like Ariyasen tends drag Buddhism into each and everything that they see fancy..............which in my opinion is just pure stupidness.


    Continuing on the same,

    If Ariyasen like to drag buddism into it, then someone should reming him that the concept of "new year" at present if soley based on "chasing away the bad omens of the previouse year and bringout a new fresh begining to the new year" where you observe and go through all that good practices......

    so, in view of that, Ariyasen should be reminded that it's budhdhas' preaching NOT TO trust on Good / Bad omens where a follower should only trust the Dhamma and Dhamma only it self (correct me if I am wrong)

    So what should be the "point" Ariyasen is trying to make?

    New year is based on buddhist practises, but on the other side, buddha specifically noted NOT TO DO THE VERY SAME THING YOU ARE DOING as "celebrating new year"

    again.. it's just personal view of the people like "Ariyasen" which I steer clear at any cost


    and for u my frnd dnt knw who ur are or wat you do bt it seems u tend to press on racial and social issues whch are very sensitive matters(nw dnt take dis wrd and brng sum other conversation out) whch could lead to very serious consequences,

    Cmng to ariyasen u myt nt like personally i also dnt bt he has come to dat popularity and understanding bcoz he knew sumthng more dan u and i do,

    also if sumone says its a buddhist and sinhala new k dats there opinion u cannot go and ask dem qs taking buddhism into the middle sayind dis and dat,

    u knw sumthngs abt our history and evrythng bt bro just thnk b4 u write
     

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    I agree with u X-pert ...this have to be called as Srilankan Awrudda ....
    most srilankans celebrate this....
    as i know not chatholics & also muslims celebrate this or even respect this...
    did u see fazaal's siggy wishing a happy new year..that's a great example...
    so this should be srilankans new year or some thing...
    only my thoughts ...plz don't ger upset guys...:)
    me2...
     

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    x-pert said:
    OK. Nothing personal or whatever.. Got this mail from my brother. So thought of putting it here for your opinions and comments.

    Note: Posted in PRO section. So proper comments only :)

    newyrqv5.gif


    Personaly I think the new year should be for both Sinhalese and Tamils.Because it is a good way and the best way to show the world that Sri Lankans are united irrespective of their Race / Religion. Because Sri Lanka doesn't belong only to Sinhala people.

    Well to my opinion, Traditional Sinhala and Hindu new year as we call it, celebrated by people from the both communities. No one can deny the fact of the Hindu influence to our culture through out the history. Our new Year is based mainly on auspicious times set by astrological calculations, which also came from India.


    If you research further you can see Sri Lanka is not the only Country that celebrate this traditional New Year. The traditional new year of most of the Buddhist countries in south East Asia and some of the regions in India celebrate from April 13 -15.

    Thailand called it Songkran, from Sanskrit sankrānti "astrological passage" is also celebrated in Laos (called pi mai lao), Cambodia (called Chaul Chnam Thmey, Cambodian New Year), Myanmar (called Thingyan), and by the Dai people in Yunnan, China. The same day is celebrated in South Asian calendars as well: the Assamese (called Rongali Bihu), Bengali (called Pohela Boishakh), Oriya People from Orissa(called Maha Visuba Sangkranti), Sinhala, Tamil, Malayali, Punjabi, new years fall on the same dates. They all are based on the astrological event of the sun beginning its northward journey.
    If you trace back, you can see how the Hindu influence has spread around the entire region before they become Buddhist countries.


    So I don't agree to the fact as said above, this new Year is only belongs to the Sinhalese People.

    And what is Thai Pongal
    This is a harvest festival - the Tamil equivalent of Thanksgiving. It is held to honor the Sun, for a bountiful harvest. Families gather to rejoice and share their joy and their harvests with others. The Sun is offered a "Pongal" of rice and milk.

    Deepavali or Deewali- A colorful festival that is celebrated by all Hindus worldwide , which is also known as the festival of lights. This festival usually falls around late October and November. One important practice that the Hindus follow during the festival is to light oil lamps in their homes on Deepavali morning. By lighting the oil lamps, the Hindus are thanking the gods for the happiness, knowledge, peace and wealth that they have received. The Hindus consider Deepavali as one of the most important festivals to celebrate.
     
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    kauru kohoma kiuwath oona kenekta aurudu samaranna puluwan... ai eeka sinhala demala muslim kiyala wenas karannee..pissu nee.. kamathi kenek kamathi deyak samaranna bari nam nikan innaa.. ethakota oya kisi prashnayak nee ne..
     

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    THIS SHOULD BE JUST SRI LANKAN ALUTH AWRUDDHA BECAUSE ITS ONLY SIR LANKANS WHO CELIBRATE IT IN APRIL 14TH OR SO, NOT ANY HINDU LIVE IN INDIA OR OTHER COUNTRY NOT EVEN KNOW SUCH A THING AS I KNOW.WE CANT SAY SINHALA DEMALA BECAUSE ALL TAMILS OVER THE WORLD DONT DO.. BUT I DO NOT KNOW THE ASTROLOGICAL SIDE OF THIS .... WE SRI LANKAN ASTROLOGY IS MAINLY BASED BY INDIANS..SO IF SO THE INCIDENT HAPPENS IN NEW YEAR TIME SHOULD BE KNOWN BY HINDUS ...BUT IM CONFUSED DO THEY REALLY KNOW SUCH ASTROLOGICAL CHANGING IS HAPPENING:nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd:
     
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    sampath312 said:
    THIS SHOULD BE JUST SRI LANKAN ALUTH AWRUDDHA BECAUSE ITS ONLY SIR LANKANS WHO CELIBRATE IT IN APRIL 14TH OR SO, NOT ANY HINDU LIVE IN INDIA OR OTHER COUNTRY NOT EVEN KNOW SUCH A THING AS I KNOW.WE CANT SAY SINHALA DEMALA BECAUSE ALL TAMILS OVER THE WORLD DONT DO.. BUT I DO NOT KNOW THE ASTROLOGICAL SIDE OF THIS .... WE SRI LANKAN ASTROLOGY IS MAINLY BASED BY INDIANS..SO IF SO THE INCIDENT HAPPENS IN NEW YEAR TIME SHOULD BE KNOWN BY HINDUS ...BUT IM CONFUSED DO THEY REALLY KNOW SUCH ASTROLOGICAL CHANGING IS HAPPENING:nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd: :nerd:

    mucho local hindu's auspicous time regardin new yr is different from sinhala/buddhist's auspicous time.........dont knw how thats possible......

    n i guess ppl used to celebrate this cos their cultivation proccess starts in april or so.......im nt sure abt it (anyway ancient chinese n european pagans used to celebrate similar festivals based on sun and cultivation so i guess celebrating new yr in april is something similar)