Why the Muslims speak in Tamil???

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Wutz da reason? If thrz any Muslim bro plz reply..

Y they cant use sinhalese?

We knw dat tamil z da lang. Of Hindu ppl n they got it frm southrn India. So thrz no prob wit dem...
But muslim guyz havnt any deal wit tamil ne.

If dat so catholic ppl shud use english... bt thy r usin sinhala...

Culture

The Sri Lankan Moors possess a unique culture that differentiates them from the dominant Sinhalese and Tamil ethnic groups on the island. The cultural domain of Sri Lankan Moors has been strongly shaped by Islam, hence most customs and practices are dictated by Islamic law. While preserving many of their ancestral customs, the Moors have also adopted several South Asian practices.[2]

[edit] Languages

The Moors speak a modified form of the Tamil language which is influenced by Arabic [2]. However since there isn't an official name for the dialect, it is commonly referred as Tamil. The Sinhala language has also had strong influence on speech, especially in the Central region of Sri Lanka where most Moors are multilingual. In the past, the Arwi language was used extensively by the Moor community, however it is now virtually extinct as a spoken language and is confined only to religious texts. Today, the Tamil script is commonly used; however the official script used in religious affairs is still Arwi, which is a modified form of the Arabic script [3].

Many Arabic and Arabized words exist in the form of Tamil spoken by Moors. Among many examples, greetings and blessings are exchanged in Arabic instead of Tamil, such as Assalamu Alaikum instead of Vanakkam and Jazakallah instead of Nandri. Furthermore, to a smaller extent words have also been absorbed from Portuguese, Dutch, English and notably, Sri Lankan Creole Malay.

[edit] Arwi Language in Sri Lanka

Prior to the adoption of Tamil and Sinhala, the Arwi language was used as a mother tongue by the Sri Lankan Moors. Arwi is linguistically related to both Semitic and Dravidian tongues now spoken predominantly in the Middle East and Southern India, respectively. It is also believed to be also related to Brahui, a Dravidian language spoken today by nearly 350,000 in East Baluchistan, Pakistan.[citation needed]
The Arwi Alphabet.

The linguistic "marriage" of Arabic with Sri Lankan dialects is a process that has been active in the region for several centuries. The distinctiveness of the speech behavior of the Moors of Sri Lanka, has been referred to as Arabic-Tamil, Arabuthamul, Arwi, or Shonakam. It enjoys a religious knowledge affinity with a dialect of Jawi, used by the Malays of the island, as well as with other northern India derived languages such as Urdu, used by smaller groups of Muslims in the country. The linguistic medium of Arwi is composed of more than one set of grammars and vocabularies that a speaker may switch back and forth from, depending on the situation. Spoken forms of coastal regional Arwi also differ from central regional forms. Compared to many among the Sinhalese, Tamil, or Burgher peoples of Sri Lanka who have traditionally tended to be monolingual, Moors were much more at home with Sinhala and Tamil, and in some instances English, as well as Arwi.

As a written language Arwi employs an invented orthography for a creolized, or mixed, system of speech patterns. Arwi spoken in Sri Lanka, contained a mixture of words that have Semitic, Dravidian and Indo-European origins (i.e. Arabic, Tamil and Sinhalese, respectively)[4]. Research on its history has only very recently begun to appear in print. It is believed to have originated during the early stages of Islamizing contact between Sri Lankan peoples with Arab and Persian traders. The principles of its development and structure are possibly related to similar systems known for other similar Islamized speech and writing systems such as Maldivian, Jawi, Urdu, and Persian.

Arwi is known to be a matter of at least scholarly interest in some parts of Sri Lanka today. Languages such as Sinhala, Tamil and English have replaced it in many contexts. Several reasons can be attributed to the decline of Arwi including the popularization of English during colonial times and the lack of competitive printing facilities. Furthermore, the early 20th century adoption of an Arabic dominant Islamic school curriculum by scholars has also contributed to the extinction of Arwi as a spoken language and its overall decline in Sri Lanka.

Today, the Arwi Language exists only as a written medium for religious uses. Alongside standard Arabic, It is often used in formal religious ceremonies; however, unlike Arabic, Arwi is seldom taught in religious schools and is consequently in deep decline. The most notable usage of Arwi can be found in devotional chants such as the Talaifatiha, which is exclusively conducted by women during certain religious festivals.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Lankan_Moors#Languages
 

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    machan. now tell me this.

    what the hell is your problem in we muslims using tamil to talk?? is it a crime or what?? or are you saying that only sinhala should be used to talk?? Sinhala and Tamil are both official languages of sri lanka (if u didnt know that b 4) and any body has the freedom to talk in any language they wish. if you go and live in italy and speak in sinhala will anybody come and tell you or ask you y ur talking in sinhala?? no ryt. its the same here.

    im sensing some other kind of motive behind your question bro. just keep it in mind that i will always remember you, if there is any other new problem in this country bro. always and i will always blame u for that like prabaharan for terrorism.
     

    Muzain

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    coollifestyle4u said:
    Mage Hema Muslim Yahaluwek ma wage..
    E gollan gedaradhi unat Bawitha karannay sinhala bashawai..

    E hinda.. Oya sahodaraya Me utsaha karannay Mona wage gethaluwak gena enna da kiyala nam hetha ganda amaruy..


    even i speak sinhala in home

    and thts my mother toung

    bt my mthr dnt knw sinhala wel so i only spk tamil wth her
     

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    ahamednishadh said:
    machan. now tell me this.

    what the hell is your problem in we muslims using tamil to talk?? is it a crime or what?? or are you saying that only sinhala should be used to talk?? Sinhala and Tamil are both official languages of sri lanka (if u didnt know that b 4) and any body has the freedom to talk in any language they wish. if you go and live in italy and speak in sinhala will anybody come and tell you or ask you y ur talking in sinhala?? no ryt. its the same here.

    im sensing some other kind of motive behind your question bro. just keep it in mind that i will always remember you, if there is any other new problem in this country bro. always and i will always blame u for that like prabaharan for terrorism.

    ez man ez
     

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    firoz85 said:
    ez man ez
    please ppl listen to me

    Now in srilanka there is no Tamils, Muslims , Sinhala , Burger , Mally , hindu , English or anyother language or culture.

    There is two parties in Sri Lanka now

    1. The ppl who love to Sri lanka
    2. PPL who don't love

    So think of this . what group the one who started this thread belongs to????
    He's trying to distroy the Peace of Sri Lanka

    belive me this is a LTTE supporters work mahcnla . so don't cought up with this idea
     

    Zeus

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    coollifestyle4u said:
    Mage Hema Muslim Yahaluwek ma .........Mona wage gethaluwak gena enna da kiyala nam hetha ganda amaruy..

    hmm na machan eya kiyana eka hari godak muslim aya kata karanne tamil tama
    Uba hitanne machn meya Kunu valiyak adinna hadanava kiyalada ?
    matanam danata ehema penne na machan:yes:
     

    Zeus

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    gazaly said:
    kawda kiyanney Apita sinhala Katha karanna Baha Kiyala.. aney mage Madagilla.....:frown::frown: mama Kiyanney naha Ithin..:frown:

    Ubata ochchara malapanna ganna deyak eya kivve na machan
    And ube tarahen apita(matanam ) vadakut na :rolleyes:
    (and ube madagilla gana mata one nam hodavayin ekak kiyanna puluvan eth machan still v r in the same family)
    Just answer the question machan


    Simply
    ayi godak Muslim aya talilma kata karanne :D
     
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    Oh My GOD !!! Guys What is this all about ,
    I know There are so many nice brothers in Elakiri and I am not giving this reply for them , This for the Guys who opened this thread and Who ever Replied in that Thread and also my intention is not to hurt u guys , i just wanted to explain . Now Only We have Sorted out a Big Problem and Y u Guys Trying to Create some sort of Bad Impression about Muslims, First Of all I would like to say that There is Nothing Wrong in Speaking UR Favourite Language , Because at the end of the day being a Human We Just Need to Express Our Emotion and that is why We use a Language
    :growl:

    Firstly Who said That Muslims does not have a Language , We Do have Our Language and it is One of The World Most Used and a language which has a great Historic Value and it is Arabic and the next point is yeah we can use Arabic , but Will u guys Understand ????? If you So , Then We Will :angry:

    Secondly Even the Government Has Accepted Sinhala , Tamil and English as the Official Languages of SRILANKA so there is no restriction in speaking a language:angry:

    And Finally Who Told you Guys Muslims Speaks Only Tamil , It depends in Which Region they Live in and The Environment They Were Brought Up . For Example I am From Galle and The Most of The Muslim People Go to Sinhalse Schools and They Use Sinhala as their mother Language and same as that in some regions They Use Tamil , But the Most Interesting Fact is More than 70% muslims can speak in both sinhala and tamil. Muslims Even Have their Religious books in tamil and Sinhala Which shows the world that muslims are using sinhala as their language.

    I Hope the have Explanation would help the Guys to understand who these muslims are . We had no problem with any language or people , For us Sinhala Language and Tamil Language Both are like the mother Tongue .
    Machala Min Pasuwath Oya Wagey Moda Prashna Ahala Muslim Kollanwa Ridawanna Epa, Api Sinhala ,Demala Balanne Naha , Api Ashrey Karanne Bokkenma !!!!!!!!!!!!! :D


    JayaSRI!!!!!!!
     
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    I CAN SPEAK SINHALA + TAMIL + ENGLISH

    Sinhala ekkenek hambuna sinhalen Tamil ekken hambunama Tamil.....even U can Learn any Language in Srilanka ne!! Eka LOOOKU Prashnayak karaganna epaaaa....

    IF U HAVE DOUBLE MEANING PLEASE POST DIRECTLY BROTHER!!!!

    :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
     

    sEE_dA_trUth

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    gazaly said:
    meykai machan... umba ahuwa Prashne wadradi machan.. Umbata Ahanna baha Muslimlage Mother language eka kohomada Demala Bhashawa uney kiyala..Lankawe kohewath naha Muslimlage maw bhashawa eka Demala Kiyala.. O'nenam Mehema kiyann Puluwan Lankawe Inna muslimlagen wadi pirisak Demala bhashawa katha karanawa kiyala..
    mokada A' A'pudgala Inna hadena wata pitawa anuwa eyalage bashawath wenas wenawa A'kata Boudda Hindu Muslim kiyana aagam bala panney naha....
    so ahanna thibune Ai lankawe muslimla bahutharayak demala Katha karanney Kiyalaa.. A'ka saadaarana Prashnayak... a'kath Sinhalenmai ahanna thibuney Ochcharama oya Bhashawa kiyana eka gana hithana kenek nam.... namuh oya Ahala thibune engreesiyen.. thawa vidiyakin kiyanwanam suddage bashawen lankawe Lansi aya (burger aya) katha karana bhashawen... A'kath harida nahaney..

    oyage sadaranai Kiyana Prashneta Uththaray oyata EK Ekenma Bala ganna puluwan tharindu kiyala kenek daala thibuna Lankawe muslimla demala weema gana -Nalinda Silva ge adahasak poddak hoyala balanna.. but a'ka nisa EK eke walith giyaaa... muslim sinhala aya.. :yes::yes::yes:


    hmm.. mama othanin adahas kale naha machan muslim aya tamil katha karana eka waradi kiyala.. ehema karanna mama kauda? mata kisima ayithiyak nane ehema ahanna..

    mata oni une meke mula danaganna witharai..

    ow.. prashne waraddak thiyenawa.. sry for that..

    e wagema kaauru hari katha karana basawa control karanna katawath bahane.. eka maha wanachari wadak ne.. eka nisa oni kenekuta thaman dannawanam oni basawakin katha karanna puluwan..

    english kiyanne lansinge basawa witharada? eka dan loketama ayithi deyak wela iwarai ne.. mama ehema ahuwe meke inna hamota therewi kiyala hithagena..

    kohoma unath machan mata oni une meke mula danaganna witharai.. eth eka athi dan.. me wage podi deyak hinda waliyak yannath puluwan thamai..

    dan apita oni wali nemeine ban..
     

    sEE_dA_trUth

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    izzardahamad said:
    the muslims here in sri lanka are mostly speaks tamil. and also they know english and sinhalese as well. but in some areas such as Hambantota and kirinda area there are muslims they dont know a single tamil word.they speak only sinhalese..and in eastern and north western side the muslims can only speak tamil and english. who are living in other parts of the island speaks tamil,sinhala and english.


    hmm.. it dependz on the place whr they live ne..
     

    sEE_dA_trUth

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    fazil00789 said:
    ane stop this first we are sri lankans mona basawa katha kalath when we go abroad apen ahanne mona rateda kiyala thats the main thing we are sri lankans

    yeah machan.. sry.. i just wantd to knw da histry...

    don b upset bro..
     

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    firoz85 said:
    Culture

    The Sri Lankan Moors possess a unique culture that differentiates them from the dominant Sinhalese and Tamil ethnic groups on the island. The cultural domain of Sri Lankan Moors has been strongly shaped by Islam, hence most customs and practices are dictated by Islamic law. While preserving many of their ancestral customs, the Moors have also adopted several South Asian practices.[2]

    [edit] Languages

    The Moors speak a modified form of the Tamil language which is influenced by Arabic [2]. However since there isn't an official name for the dialect, it is commonly referred as Tamil. The Sinhala language has also had strong influence on speech, especially in the Central region of Sri Lanka where most Moors are multilingual. In the past, the Arwi language was used extensively by the Moor community, however it is now virtually extinct as a spoken language and is confined only to religious texts. Today, the Tamil script is commonly used; however the official script used in religious affairs is still Arwi, which is a modified form of the Arabic script [3].

    Many Arabic and Arabized words exist in the form of Tamil spoken by Moors. Among many examples, greetings and blessings are exchanged in Arabic instead of Tamil, such as Assalamu Alaikum instead of Vanakkam and Jazakallah instead of Nandri. Furthermore, to a smaller extent words have also been absorbed from Portuguese, Dutch, English and notably, Sri Lankan Creole Malay.

    [edit] Arwi Language in Sri Lanka

    Prior to the adoption of Tamil and Sinhala, the Arwi language was used as a mother tongue by the Sri Lankan Moors. Arwi is linguistically related to both Semitic and Dravidian tongues now spoken predominantly in the Middle East and Southern India, respectively. It is also believed to be also related to Brahui, a Dravidian language spoken today by nearly 350,000 in East Baluchistan, Pakistan.[citation needed]
    The Arwi Alphabet.

    The linguistic "marriage" of Arabic with Sri Lankan dialects is a process that has been active in the region for several centuries. The distinctiveness of the speech behavior of the Moors of Sri Lanka, has been referred to as Arabic-Tamil, Arabuthamul, Arwi, or Shonakam. It enjoys a religious knowledge affinity with a dialect of Jawi, used by the Malays of the island, as well as with other northern India derived languages such as Urdu, used by smaller groups of Muslims in the country. The linguistic medium of Arwi is composed of more than one set of grammars and vocabularies that a speaker may switch back and forth from, depending on the situation. Spoken forms of coastal regional Arwi also differ from central regional forms. Compared to many among the Sinhalese, Tamil, or Burgher peoples of Sri Lanka who have traditionally tended to be monolingual, Moors were much more at home with Sinhala and Tamil, and in some instances English, as well as Arwi.

    As a written language Arwi employs an invented orthography for a creolized, or mixed, system of speech patterns. Arwi spoken in Sri Lanka, contained a mixture of words that have Semitic, Dravidian and Indo-European origins (i.e. Arabic, Tamil and Sinhalese, respectively)[4]. Research on its history has only very recently begun to appear in print. It is believed to have originated during the early stages of Islamizing contact between Sri Lankan peoples with Arab and Persian traders. The principles of its development and structure are possibly related to similar systems known for other similar Islamized speech and writing systems such as Maldivian, Jawi, Urdu, and Persian.

    Arwi is known to be a matter of at least scholarly interest in some parts of Sri Lanka today. Languages such as Sinhala, Tamil and English have replaced it in many contexts. Several reasons can be attributed to the decline of Arwi including the popularization of English during colonial times and the lack of competitive printing facilities. Furthermore, the early 20th century adoption of an Arabic dominant Islamic school curriculum by scholars has also contributed to the extinction of Arwi as a spoken language and its overall decline in Sri Lanka.

    Today, the Arwi Language exists only as a written medium for religious uses. Alongside standard Arabic, It is often used in formal religious ceremonies; however, unlike Arabic, Arwi is seldom taught in religious schools and is consequently in deep decline. The most notable usage of Arwi can be found in devotional chants such as the Talaifatiha, which is exclusively conducted by women during certain religious festivals.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Lankan_Moors#Languages


    thanx machan..
     

    sEE_dA_trUth

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    asachan said:
    please ppl listen to me

    Now in srilanka there is no Tamils, Muslims , Sinhala , Burger , Mally , hindu , English or anyother language or culture.

    There is two parties in Sri Lanka now

    1. The ppl who love to Sri lanka
    2. PPL who don't love

    So think of this . what group the one who started this thread belongs to????
    He's trying to distroy the Peace of Sri Lanka

    belive me this is a LTTE supporters work mahcnla . so don't cought up with this idea




    hmm.. ok machan.. ubata oni deyak hithanna puluwan.. but plz mata ohoma katha karnna epa..

    mama ahuwe machan atheethaya sambanda deyak.. lankawe sinhala minissu lankawe issellama padinchi une kohe idanda kiyala ahuwoth uba oya widiyata baninawada? is that a racial question??

    methana mama KEEYATAWATH KIWWE NAHA muslim ayata tamil katha karanna epa kiyala.. mama mokekda ban ehema kiyanna??

    mama ahuwe tamil eyalage mthr language eka une kohomada kiyala. ekata hethuwak thiyenne oni ne.. anika mama ehema ahuwe eka muslim bro. kenekge sigi eke thibuna Sinhala Muslims kiyala site ekaka link ekak.. eka amuthu adahasak neda? sinhala muslims???

    ethanin mata apu prashnayak thamai eka.. plz machan.. mata methana waliyak athi karanna kisima onikamak naha.. dan meka iwarayak karamu..

    aye parak posts tika kiyawala balapan mama methana waliyak daannada haduwe kiyala...

    anika mekath ahaganin..

    asachan said:
    please ppl listen to me


    There is two parties in Sri Lanka now

    1. The ppl who love to Sri lanka
    2. PPL who don't love


    eka thamai dan api follow karanna oni.. ekata mama ahapu question eken aulak giyanam im really really sry bro..

     

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    Zeus said:
    hmm na machan eya kiyana eka hari godak muslim aya kata karanne tamil tama
    Uba hitanne machn meya Kunu valiyak adinna hadanava kiyalada ?
    matanam danata ehema penne na machan:yes:


    thanx machan.. eka godak denek ta aul giya mama prashne ahapu widiye waraddak thiyenawa..

    aulak naha.. meka dan iwarayak karamu
     

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    Wallaahi kussu ummak intha! Inthe sharmoothi...intha gir gir katheer!
    well,dats arabic...muslims' great language but do u understand wat i said nw?if so,we muslims will continue speaking in arabic if all our sri lankan brothers' n sisters can understand...or else,we havta speak the language we want! my bigest question is...do u hav any probs regarding on wat language we speak?eh?
    PEACE!
     

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    Sakala sirin piri siri lankawe
    They came to South Asia as traders. They had come to India before coming to SL. There they have established their business. They had learnt Tamil because it made them easier to communicate with South Indians. Later when they came here, they din't want to learn Sinhala because there were lot of Tamils in Sri Lanaka.

    This is my personal opinion, and it's not based on any historic provement. :D