Machan I think you are not getting the point of the posts by Ex-muslimAhemed. They were there to explain that Islam does not treat women equally, Therefor there is no reall driven reason for them to convert to Islam.
Even though you try to correct the phrases from quran, they do not help you because your corrected version also clearly says, Islam does not treat women equally.
This is not a question about whether someones giving correct quotes or not, so lets go by your own words/qoutes presented here, which are from allah.
So it is really clear that men and women are not treated equally since male gets a larger share.
Good that you cleard this out man.
Good. Both of them are punished.
Hmm, just seems like more and more stuff on what a man can or cannot do to a woman. Where are the parts that says what woman can do to a man? I do not see anything but unfair treatment here. Is woman a property of man.??
Good.
Hmm, I think in your corrected version the word 'spouse' is substitued for the word 'woman'. But what you or the original translater forgot to do was change the word 'he' to 'he or she'. If he swears by GOD, four times that he is telling the truth. What happens if She swears by GOD, four times that she is telling the truth? Who will win the case? Man or the woman? That's an interesting question..
Even though you try to correct the phrases from quran, they do not help you because your corrected version also clearly says, Islam does not treat women equally.
This is not a question about whether someones giving correct quotes or not, so lets go by your own words/qoutes presented here, which are from allah.
the real one...
[4:11] GOD decrees a will for the benefit of your children; the male gets twice the share of the female.*
So it is really clear that men and women are not treated equally since male gets a larger share.
You really believe that the man is the backbone of the financial family?? In western countries??(Western countries because the thread starter says that they convert more to Islam). Machan it is a fact that this is not the case, not in every family. This is not something upon which you can justify this unfair division of inheritance.why dude.. why dnt u get da actual meaning... check this out... lady gets a portion less than of man.. coz man is da backbone of the financial of a family.... cheers....
the real one....
[4:43] O you who believe, do not observe the Contact Prayers (Salat) while intoxicated, so that you know what you are saying. Nor after sexual orgasm without bathing, unless you are on the road, traveling; if you are ill or traveling, or you had urinary or fecal-related excretion (such as gas), or contacted the women (sexually), and you cannot find water, you shall observe Tayammum (dry ablution) by touching clean dry soil, then wiping your faces and hands therewith. GOD is Pardoner, Forgiver.
this goes to both.. if a man touch a women.. he should do wuzhu.. so does the grl.. if a lady touch a guy she should do it too... to ways baby,,,, pity on u man...
Good that you cleard this out man.
Good that you clarified this one. Seems like this has nothing to do with the thread.the real one...
[24:34] We have revealed to you clarifying revelations, and examples from the past generations, and an enlightenment for the righteous.
man i think u should revise the source... lemme knw abt this. i will try ma best to make u clear abt this issue...
If you can point out where the same rules are applied for men who commit adultery, then that would be some point on equal treatment. Otherwise this just supports the argument, Islam does not treat women equally.the real one....
[4:15] Those who commit adultery among your women, you must have four witnesses against them, from among you. If they do bear witness, then you shall keep such women in their homes until they die, or until GOD creates an exit for them.*
Footnote
[4:16] The couple who commits adultery shall be punished.* If they repent and reform, you shall leave them alone. GOD is Redeemer, Most Merciful.
Footnote
Good. Both of them are punished.
[4:17] Repentance is acceptable by GOD from those who fall in sin out of ignorance, then repent immediately thereafter. GOD redeems them. GOD is Omniscient, Most Wise.
[4:18] Not acceptable is the repentance of those who commit sins until death comes to them, then say, "Now I repent." Nor is it acceptable from those who die as disbelievers. For these, we have prepared a painful retribution.
[4:19] O you who believe, it is not lawful for you to inherit what the women leave behind, against their will. You shall not force them to give up anything you had given them, unless they commit a proven adultery. You shall treat them nicely. If you dislike them, you may dislike something wherein GOD has placed a lot of good.
[4:20] If you wish to marry another wife, in place of your present wife, and you had given any of them a great deal, you shall not take back anything you had given her. Would you take it fraudulently, maliciously, and sinfully?
Hmm, just seems like more and more stuff on what a man can or cannot do to a woman. Where are the parts that says what woman can do to a man? I do not see anything but unfair treatment here. Is woman a property of man.??
[24:2] The adulteress and the adulterer you shall whip each of them a hundred lashes. Do not be swayed by pity from carrying out GOD's law, if you truly believe in GOD and the Last Day. And let a group of believers witness their penalty.*
Footnote
[24:3] The adulterer will end up marrying an adulteress or an idol worshiper, and the adulteress will end up marrying an adulterer or an idol worshiper. This is prohibited for the believers.
Good.
[24:6] As for those who accuse their own spouses, without any other witnesses, then the testimony may be accepted if he swears by GOD four times that he is telling the truth.
why da hell u cant read the whole thing baby.......
Hmm, I think in your corrected version the word 'spouse' is substitued for the word 'woman'. But what you or the original translater forgot to do was change the word 'he' to 'he or she'. If he swears by GOD, four times that he is telling the truth. What happens if She swears by GOD, four times that she is telling the truth? Who will win the case? Man or the woman? That's an interesting question..


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