Yakku (A Tribe of the 4 Hela tribes.)

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    amila_90210 said:

    very true..:yes:
    but hela people were
    too called as "lion people සිංහ මිනිසුන්/ suryawanshika සූර්ය වංශික" in some ancient script found in some other countries

    The story that lions are connected to sinhala ppl by mean of "sinhabahu"..is a fiction which is
    far from reality...
    Wijaya and his blood line is supposed to trace back to the Suryawanshika people and Sinhabahu. Since main stream history says SL people comes from Wijaya and his lot, Sinhala with the meaning "Sinha Le" or Blood of Lion stems from that.
    Which one is the correct depends on which version of history is followed.
     

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    kosandpol said:
    Wijaya and his blood line is supposed to trace back to the Suryawanshika people and Sinhabahu. Since main stream history says SL people comes from Wijaya and his lot, Sinhala with the meaning "Sinha Le" or Blood of Lion stems from that.
    Which one is the correct depends on which version of history is followed.

    There might be generations who come from the 700 friends of Vijaya but not himself. The only children Vijaya had were Jeewahaththa & Disala (from Kuweni) Historey says Vijaya's queen did not have childern. Basically there's no blood line that started form a lion. According to this Vijaya's generation is really the native Sri Lankans (Waddas). Cause mahawansha says that Jeewahaththa & Disala are the forefathers of Waddas
     

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    Amalka101 said:
    There might be generations who come from the 700 friends of Vijaya but not himself. The only children Vijaya had were Jeewahaththa & Disala (from Kuweni) Historey says Vijaya's queen did not have childern. Basically there's no blood line that started form a lion. According to this Vijaya's generation is really the native Sri Lankans (Waddas). Cause mahawansha says that Jeewahaththa & Disala are the forefathers of Waddas
    The blood line that starts from Sinhabahu is Wijeya's blood line. Sinhabahu is a forefather of Wijaya.
    The Waddas are not considered the native Sri Lankans since Kuweni and her tribe was already here when Wijeya arrived. The true natives are the Yaksha's (Kuweni's people), the Nagas and the other 2 tribes (I forgot the names).
     

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    kosandpol said:
    The blood line that starts from Sinhabahu is Wijeya's blood line. Sinhabahu is a forefather of Wijaya.
    The Waddas are not considered the native Sri Lankans since Kuweni and her tribe was already here when Wijeya arrived. The true natives are the Yaksha's (Kuweni's people), the Nagas and the other 2 tribes (I forgot the names).

    Yes... Yakka, Naga, Dhewa & Raksha (Asura). I know that, yet explained it this way so everyone can understand. (most people doesn't consider them as our forefathers.) Sinhabahu & Sinhaseewali are the parents of Wijaya and forefathers of Waddas. We on the other hand, as I beleive carry the native blood since 700 people is not enough to create a nation during such a short period of time that Mahawansha tells.
     

    sanath ekanayake

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    සමුදුරෙන් එහා
    keep up this good work.

    x-pert said:
    Machan mama tikak busy. So hariyata wistharaathmaka saakshi athuwa wisthara karanna dan baha. passe dawasaka kiyannam :)

    ketiyen kiyuwoth machan,

    Wijaya enna kalin lankawe diyunu sishtaachaarayak thibuna.
    Eh kiyanne Kassapa budunge kaale idalama wage.

    Wijaya kiyanne india walin pituwahal karapu horek kiyala dannawane machan 700k piriwara ekkala (mahawanshe thiyenne ehemai).

    Wijaya awilla yaksha gothrika Kuweniwa balen badagena eeta passe kale ara hitapu Yaksha, Naaga, Asura saha Raaksha kiyana gothra wala minissunwa samoola gathanaya karapu eka potha pathata anuwa.

    onna oya hethuwen thamai godak Hela thaakshanaya, hela danuma apen thuran wela thiyenne. So ehema ape danuma apen sorakam kala kenekta hora kiyana eka waradi nahane? :)

    eeta passe thamai yaksha naagha raaksha gam okkoma thissagama, anuradhagaama, thambapanni kiyala unta oni widihata nam daagena un aandu kale.

    ohoma samoola gaathanaya karaddi Kuweniyage baala sohoyuran dennek saha thawath yaksha kellek kaleta panala gihilla thiyenawa. anna eyalagen thamai weddo bihiwela thiyenne kiyalath mathayak thiyenawa machan.
    WIJAYA KIYANNE INDIAWE HITIYA MADAWIYEK ,EYAGE KARADARA WADI KAMATA TAMAI NAWAKA DALA PITA KARALA TIYENNE.MAHAWANSE HATIYATA LANKPALAWENI RAJU WIJAYA UNATA EYA KALE KUWENIWA RAWATALA YAKKHA TRIBE EKA NATHI KALA EKA.:sorry:(kristhu warshayata pera 543 weni warshayehi,Wijaya saha ohuge sahacharayan lankawata godabasa apage aadima muththan woo yaksha,naga gothrayan gen rajyaya udura gath bawa kiyawe.wijaya aakramanaya ithihasaye apa rate palamu aakramanaya we.(Lanka-loka iyhihasaya by Edwin Ranawaka-1957)
    please continue your good work bro.please also regard abt Kweni's chilren and Uthuru kuru Divaina too.
     

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    Amalka101 said:
    There might be generations who come from the 700 friends of Vijaya but not himself. The only children Vijaya had were Jeewahaththa & Disala (from Kuweni) Historey says Vijaya's queen did not have childern. Basically there's no blood line that started form a lion. According to this Vijaya's generation is really the native Sri Lankans (Waddas). Cause mahawansha says that Jeewahaththa & Disala are the forefathers of Waddas

    Sorry... That's another myth by Mahawansha.

    Vijaya exterminated many of the yaksha, nagha, rakus, asura tribes after marrying to Kuweni by force.

    Some yaksha people have escaped into the jungles and mixed with another tribe called 'pulindas'.

    That's how wedda tribe started.

    Yes, there is a possibility of the names of the 2 main characters were Jeewahaththa & Deesala.

    But Weddas aren't descendents of Wijaya.
    Weddas are the real Yaksha tribe people.

    Unfortunately after Thisahami and his son uruwarilaye wanniyala-aththo, we can't find a wedda with real Yaksha blood. Most of them have been mixed with several other communities including rodee, kinnara, sinhala, tamil etc.
     

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    Amalka101 said:
    Yes... Yakka, Naga, Dhewa & Raksha (Asura). I know that, yet explained it this way so everyone can understand. (most people doesn't consider them as our forefathers.) Sinhabahu & Sinhaseewali are the parents of Wijaya and forefathers of Waddas. We on the other hand, as I beleive carry the native blood since 700 people is not enough to create a nation during such a short period of time that Mahawansha tells.

    Again a correction :)

    Asura (~dewa). Not raaksha...

    Actually it's not Raaksha. it should be Rakus.

    Rak + Kus = in sinhala.... kusa (bada) rakka kattiya. = Goviyo.

    also as I've told earlier, Yaksha tribe is the forefather and mother of Weddas. Not Wijaya the thief :D

    Furthermore, Sinhala = Siwu hela = Yaksha, Naaga, Rakus, Asura (4 tribes).
    So no connection with Wijaya at all.

    As senath ekanayaka quoted, Wijaya was the 1st invader. That's all about him :)
     

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    sanath ekanayake said:
    WIJAYA KIYANNE INDIAWE HITIYA MADAWIYEK ,EYAGE KARADARA WADI KAMATA TAMAI NAWAKA DALA PITA KARALA TIYENNE.MAHAWANSE HATIYATA LANKPALAWENI RAJU WIJAYA UNATA EYA KALE KUWENIWA RAWATALA YAKKHA TRIBE EKA NATHI KALA EKA.:sorry:(kristhu warshayata pera 543 weni warshayehi,Wijaya saha ohuge sahacharayan lankawata godabasa apage aadima muththan woo yaksha,naga gothrayan gen rajyaya udura gath bawa kiyawe.wijaya aakramanaya ithihasaye apa rate palamu aakramanaya we.(Lanka-loka iyhihasaya by Edwin Ranawaka-1957)
    please continue your good work bro.please also regard abt Kweni's chilren and Uthuru kuru Divaina too.

    Thanks for the source machan :D

    Thawa oya wage references (old) labunoth daanna... :D podi paper ekak wenuwen mata ooni kalla thiyenawa. but hoyaganna hari amarui :)
     

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    iN mY BoDy
    This is becoming more and more interesting to mee...yes we should start a History section.. i really wanna know these things... :)
     

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    x-pert said:
    Again a correction :)

    Asura (~dewa). Not raaksha...

    Actually it's not Raaksha. it should be Rakus.

    Rak + Kus = in sinhala.... kusa (bada) rakka kattiya. = Goviyo.

    also as I've told earlier, Yaksha tribe is the forefather and mother of Weddas. Not Wijaya the thief :D

    Furthermore, Sinhala = Siwu hela = Yaksha, Naaga, Rakus, Asura (4 tribes).
    So no connection with Wijaya at all.

    As senath ekanayaka quoted, Wijaya was the 1st invader. That's all about him :)

    Ya I have made a mistake in naming 4 tribes, sorry. :eek:
    So... according to this, everythig is crystal clear... that Indians are not our forefathers. All they have done is creating a fairy tale to hide our true identity. I wish everyone understands this.
     

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    Amalka101 said:
    Ya I have made a mistake in naming 4 tribes, sorry. :eek:
    So... according to this, everythig is crystal clear... that Indians are not our forefathers. All they have done is creating a fairy tale to hide our true identity. I wish everyone understands this.

    Well... I don't agree with that either.

    We simply can't reject the fact that Wijaya came here and did some good things (albeit doing bad stuff mostly).

    Also, again I don't have any evidence or a clear idea about before Ravana era. Maybe Ravana have had an Indian connection - who knows :D

    So we can't blame any party as to creating a fairy tale etc. because since this is history, every story does look like a fairy tale :)

    It's just a matter of 'giving credit where its due' sorta thing...
     

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    sanath ekanayake said:
    WIJAYA KIYANNE INDIAWE HITIYA MADAWIYEK ,EYAGE KARADARA WADI KAMATA TAMAI NAWAKA DALA PITA KARALA TIYENNE.MAHAWANSE HATIYATA LANKPALAWENI RAJU WIJAYA UNATA EYA KALE KUWENIWA RAWATALA YAKKHA TRIBE EKA NATHI KALA EKA.:sorry:(kristhu warshayata pera 543 weni warshayehi,Wijaya saha ohuge sahacharayan lankawata godabasa apage aadima muththan woo yaksha,naga gothrayan gen rajyaya udura gath bawa kiyawe.wijaya aakramanaya ithihasaye apa rate palamu aakramanaya we.(Lanka-loka iyhihasaya by Edwin Ranawaka-1957)
    please continue your good work bro.please also regard abt Kweni's chilren and Uthuru kuru Divaina too.

    Out of curiosity... what about battle between Rama Rawana.... It says Rama came for his wife Seetha, but for some reason I cannot believe Rama invated Lankapura only because of his wife who was sent to woods (thapo wanaya) afterwards.

    Some says it was a plan between Rama & Wibheeshana. So Rama can have Indian kingdom ruled by Yakkas & Whibheeshana gets Lankapura. Wish I had some more information about this.
     

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    Well... I don't agree with that either.

    We simply can't reject the fact that Wijaya came here and did some good things (albeit doing bad stuff mostly).

    Also, again I don't have any evidence or a clear idea about before Ravana era. Maybe Ravana have had an Indian connection - who knows :D

    So we can't blame any party as to creating a fairy tale etc. because since this is history, every story does look like a fairy tale :)

    It's just a matter of 'giving credit where its due' sorta thing...

    :lol: zz ......... As I've heared Ravana did have connections with India. It says Yakkas did have a kingdom in India. Dhandaka Aranya (where Rama, Seetha & Lakshman dewlt) was also a part of Ravana's Indian Kingdom. I've heared that they hurt Suparnakha because she was against hunting & disturbing hela people who lived there.

    I've heared few different stories... I'm posting all here in order to get a clear idea. :)
     

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    *danushka* said:
    machan meke aka thaanak 'vijaya hora " kiyala thiyenawa.ai machan ahema kiyanne......???????
    vijaya horek nisa ne india walin pannuwe...
     

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    Amalka101 said:
    :lol: zz ......... As I've heared Ravana did have connections with India. It says Yakkas did have a kingdom in India. Dhandaka Aranya (where Rama, Seetha & Lakshman dewlt) was also a part of Ravana's Indian Kingdom. I've heared that they hurt Suparnakha because she was against hunting & disturbing hela people who lived there.

    I've heared few different stories... I'm posting all here in order to get a clear idea. :)
    Owu. Yaksha gothirikayo indiaweth wiwida pradesha paalanaya kalai kiyala mathayak thiyenawa.

    meaka uputa gaththe rapa daapu post ekakin :

    thadaki.jpg


    Yes. There are so many stories... This is just a journey to find the real story :D


    amila_90210 said:
    නියම ලංකා ඉතිහාසය අනාගත පරපුරට දායාද කිරීම අපේ වගකීම...

    owu aniwaryen. Tharinda or Nalin de Silva kiyanawa wage, apith datha kanne sangatha prawaadayak godanaganna :)

    mokada minissu thawamath hithan inne api pawatha enne aaryayangen kiyalane...