Islam & the Status of Women

[Y2K]

Ahh, well all I can say is that if you don't know what someone is talking about there is a beautiful tool called "google" you can use. Otherwise don't just comment and make a fool out of yourself. You have no idea what you are talking about here and yet you feel sorry for me?? lmao.

Castiel is a character from a TV Series called SuperNatural.

අනේ පුතේ මම ඕය විකාර වැඩසටහන් එච්චරම බලන්නෙ නැ නොවැ..... මට සමවන්න මම හිතුවේ ඕක තවත් සාතන්ගෙ ගොස්ප්ල් එකක් කියලයි

ඕය මොකද කිව්ව වුල් එක හොද කරුනු රස් කරගන්න විතරයි ..... කරුනු කාරනා තෙරුම් ගන්න පුලුවන් වුල් එකක් නැද්ද කොලුවො? එහෙම එකක් තියෙනවා නම් මටත් කියපන් ....... එනෙ එක්කොත් ඕනැ නැ බන් මටම කියලා මොලගෙඩියක් තියෙනවා නෙ බොලැව් .....

මම පොඩාක් සන්ගිත කාරයා නිසාද මන්ද පොඩි සින්දුවක් මත්ක් වුනා කෙන්ති ගන්න එපා මම එකෙ වචන ටිකක් ගෙනහැර දක්වන්නම් ..... හොද දෙවලුත් තියෙනවා නේ බොලව්!


Could you be loved and be loved?
Could you be loved and be loved?

Don't let them fool ya,
Or even try to school ya! Oh, no!
We've got a mind of our own,
So go to hell if what you're thinking is not right!
Love would never leave us alone,
A-yin the darkness there must come out to light.

Could you be loved and be loved?
Could you be loved, wo now! - and be loved?

(The road of life is rocky and you may stumble too,
So while you point your fingers someone else is judging you)
Love your brotherman!
(Could you be - could you be - could you be loved?
Could you be - could you be loved?
Could you be - could you be - could you be loved?
Could you be - could you be loved?)

Don't let them change ya, oh! -
Or even rearrange ya! Oh, no!
We've got a life to live.
They say: only - only -
only the fittest of the fittest shall survive -
Stay alive! Eh!

Could you be loved and be loved?
Could you be loved, wo now! - and be loved?

(You ain't gonna miss your water until your well runs dry;
No matter how you treat him, the man will never be satisfied.)
Say something! (Could you be - could you be - could you be loved?
Could you be - could you be loved?)
Say something! Say something!
(Could you be - could you be - could you be loved?)
Say something! (Could you be - could you be loved?)
Say something! Say something! (Say something!)

 

[dilankandy]

Ahh, well all I can say is that if you don't know what someone is talking about there is a beautiful tool called "google" you can use. Otherwise don't just comment and make a fool out of yourself. You have no idea what you are talking about here and yet you feel sorry for me?? lmao.

Castiel is a character from a TV Series called SuperNatural.

Dude just think about it. If those stories were written in an ancient book people would definitely believe in it. Still there is not much difference in religious books and this tv series. Both has good and evil, heaven and hell, angels and demons, a prophet, people resurrected from death by god, And good people fighting against evil in the name of god. All the aspects of a god and faith based religious system. Think about the story up to season 5. It was very much based on Bible and what they call " what god said and what god really want. "

I was just kiddin when I posted the earlier one. But after thinking about it for some time I thought if someone actually found those "gospels" in an ancient Jerusalem dig site or a tobm, authorities might announce that they are some kind of long lost part of the book and they add it up. And everybody will actually believe in it.

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: Thank god!!!
: Just call me Dean.

 

[AncientGlory]

Dude just think about it. If those stories were written in an ancient book people would definitely believe in it. Still there is not much difference in religious books and this tv series. Both has good and evil, heaven and hell, angels and demons, a prophet, people resurrected from death by god, And good people fighting against evil in the name of god. All the aspects of a god and faith based religious system. Think about the story up to season 5. It was very much based on Bible and what they call " what god said and what god really want. "

I was just kiddin when I posted the earlier one. But after thinking about it for some time I thought if someone actually found those "gospels" in an ancient Jerusalem dig site or a tobm, authorities might announce that they are some kind of long lost part of the book and they add it up. And everybody will actually believe in it.

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: Thank god!!!
: Just call me Dean.

Yes this could happen. After all theists don't have nothing else but faith and belief to rest the religion. So they might just believe it too.

 

[AncientGlory]

So we have established two things.

(1) Jesus is GOD
(2) Old testament is also a part of the bible, that is OT is also the word of GOD.

It this correct?

Waiting for a response.

 

[Hettiarachi]

Waiting for a response.

This is what we also asking from Christians, they are not giving concrete evidence to prove their point.rather Y2K Keep on quoting some versus from bible for nothing.
One of the trick they use to avoid being more exposed to the peoples, that they say bring proof from NT, though OT is part of bible and Jesus in NT asked them follow the OT.(U may refer to my earlier comments for proo)

As per Islamic perspective, He is a prophet who came after moses before Mohammed. As Jews rejected Jesus, Christians rejected Mohammed and they kept on following the old revelation which was manipulated by their followers(current bible). Even in their whole bible it self Jesus never said I'm God, worship me. if you challenge any Christians to bring a single versus from their bible, they will never be able provide this.

 

[Y2K]

OT is the part of the Bible

AND JESUS INDEED A SON OF GOD

now what?

 

[Y2K]

This is what we also asking from Christians, they are not giving concrete evidence to prove their point.rather Y2K Keep on quoting some versus from bible for nothing.
One of the trick they use to avoid being more exposed to the peoples, that they say bring proof from NT, though OT is part of bible and Jesus in NT asked them follow the OT.(U may refer to my earlier comments for proo)

As per Islamic perspective, He is a prophet who came after moses before Mohammed. As Jews rejected Jesus, Christians rejected Mohammed and they kept on following the old revelation which was manipulated by their followers(current bible). Even in their whole bible it self Jesus never said I'm God, worship me. if you challenge any Christians to bring a single versus from their bible, they will never be able provide this.

Quran never said OT is worng, agreed?

 

[Y2K]

Waiting for a response.

I think I have given the answer .... so now what ?

 

[Y2K]

Dude just think about it. If those stories were written in an ancient book people would definitely believe in it. Still there is not much difference in religious books and this tv series. Both has good and evil, heaven and hell, angels and demons, a prophet, people resurrected from death by god, And good people fighting against evil in the name of god. All the aspects of a god and faith based religious system. Think about the story up to season 5. It was very much based on Bible and what they call " what god said and what god really want. "

I was just kiddin when I posted the earlier one. But after thinking about it for some time I thought if someone actually found those "gospels" in an ancient Jerusalem dig site or a tobm, authorities might announce that they are some kind of long lost part of the book and they add it up. And everybody will actually believe in it.

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: Thank god!!!
: Just call me Dean.

another dean show ??/

 

[Hettiarachi]

OT is the part of the Bible

AND JESUS INDEED A SON OF GOD

now what?

OK. Y2K I have a small Question for you..below all the verses from your bible says God is Greater than Jesus, then why you give more importance to Jesus than God..Same Job done by prophet Mohammed with the will of God, we never started praying Mohammed, but God...Can u explain me in short..

Gospel of John, Ch.No. 14, V.No.28, Jesus (peace be upon him) said – ‘My Father is greater than I’ In the Gospel of John, Ch. No.10, V.No. 29 ‘My father is greater than all’. In the Gospel of Mathew Ch.No.12 V.No.28 “I cast out devil with Sprit of God’. Gospel of Luke, Ch. No. 11 V.No.20 “I with the finger of God, cast out devils’. Gospel of John, Ch.No.5 V.No.30 ‘I can of my own self do nothing - as I hear I judge, and my judgement is just, because I seek not my will, but the will of thy Father, who has sent me’.

 

[Hettiarachi]

Quran never said OT is worng, agreed?

Quran talks about together your whole bible is corrupted....

for eg, And (remember) when Allah laid a charge on those who had received the Scripture (He said): Ye are to expound it to mankind and not to hide it. But they flung it behind their backs and bought thereby a little gain. Verily evil is that which they have gained thereby.(3:187)

 

[AncientGlory]

OT is the part of the Bible

AND JESUS INDEED A SON OF GOD

now what?

Still not clear, Is jesus GOD or Not? Yes or No would be sufficient. If you say son of GOD, I assume that means jesus is not GOD.

 

[Hettiarachi]

Still not clear, Is jesus GOD or Not? Yes or No would be sufficient. If you say son of GOD, I assume that means jesus is not GOD.

Here I agree with Anc.Glory...Good Question..

Surely Y2K will come & say Christians believe in ‘trinity’ - the father the son and the holy ghost, and that they are one.

Also the word ‘trinity’ doesn’t exist anywhere in the Bible - Its not there in the Bible. But the word ‘trinity’ is there in the Holy Qu’ran - But the word ‘trinity’ in there in the Holy Qu’ran. The Holy Qu’ran says in Surah Nisa, Ch. 4, V. No. 171, it says…... ‘Don’t say trinity’

The closest verse that you can find in the Bible, which can be taken for ‘trinity’ is the first Epistle of John, Chapter, No. 5, Verse No. 7 which says…‘For there are three which bears record in heaven - the father, the word, and the holy Ghost - and these three are one’. This verse of the Bible, 1st Epistle of John, Chapter 5, Verse No. 7, is the closest resemblance to ‘trinity’ in the full Bible. But if you read the ‘Revised Standard Version’, which has been revised by 32 scholars of the highest eminence, backed by 50 different Christian co-operating denominations - they have removed this verse from the Bible as an interpolation, as a concoction, as a fabrication. It was not removed by Muslims or non-Christian scholars - but it was removed by 32 Christian scholars of the highest eminence backed by 50 different co-operative denominations as an interpolation, as a concoction, as a fabrication, because it was not there in the original manuscript.

In fact Jesus said in the Gospel of John, Chapter 14, Verse No. 28, ‘My father is greater than I’, Gospel of John, Chapter No. 10, Verse No. 29, ‘My father is greater than I’, Gospel of Mathew, Chapter No. 12, Verse No. 28, ‘I cast out devils with the spirit of God’. Gospel of Luke, Chapter No. 11, Verse No. 20 ‘With the finger of God, I cast out devil’, Gospel of John Chapter No. 5, Verse No. 30, ‘I can of my own self do nothing - As I hear I judge and my judgement is just - Because I seek not my will but the will of the Father who has sent me’- He never spoke about ‘trinity’. In fact when he was asked that, ‘which is the first of the commandments’ - he said - its mentioned in the Gospel of Mark, Chapter No. 12, Verse. No. 29…Which means, ‘Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is one Lord’. But if you ask the Christian Church - in the Catechism, they tell you that the Father is a person, the Son is a person, and the Holy Ghost is a person - but they aren’t three persons, - they are one person’. Person, person, person, but not three persons - one person - What language is this? 1+1+1 is equal to 3, Its not equal to 1. 1 into 3 is 3…Not 1....isn't it interesting????

So He is Not GOD.

 

[M.RIZ]

Here I agree with Anc.Glory...Good Question..

Surely Y2K will come & say Christians believe in ‘trinity’ - the father the son and the holy ghost, and that they are one.

Also the word ‘trinity’ doesn’t exist anywhere in the Bible - Its not there in the Bible. But the word ‘trinity’ is there in the Holy Qu’ran - But the word ‘trinity’ in there in the Holy Qu’ran. The Holy Qu’ran says in Surah Nisa, Ch. 4, V. No. 171, it says…... ‘Don’t say trinity’

The closest verse that you can find in the Bible, which can be taken for ‘trinity’ is the first Epistle of John, Chapter, No. 5, Verse No. 7 which says…‘For there are three which bears record in heaven - the father, the word, and the holy Ghost - and these three are one’. This verse of the Bible, 1st Epistle of John, Chapter 5, Verse No. 7, is the closest resemblance to ‘trinity’ in the full Bible. But if you read the ‘Revised Standard Version’, which has been revised by 32 scholars of the highest eminence, backed by 50 different Christian co-operating denominations - they have removed this verse from the Bible as an interpolation, as a concoction, as a fabrication. It was not removed by Muslims or non-Christian scholars - but it was removed by 32 Christian scholars of the highest eminence backed by 50 different co-operative denominations as an interpolation, as a concoction, as a fabrication, because it was not there in the original manuscript.

In fact Jesus said in the Gospel of John, Chapter 14, Verse No. 28, ‘My father is greater than I’, Gospel of John, Chapter No. 10, Verse No. 29, ‘My father is greater than I’, Gospel of Mathew, Chapter No. 12, Verse No. 28, ‘I cast out devils with the spirit of God’. Gospel of Luke, Chapter No. 11, Verse No. 20 ‘With the finger of God, I cast out devil’, Gospel of John Chapter No. 5, Verse No. 30, ‘I can of my own self do nothing - As I hear I judge and my judgement is just - Because I seek not my will but the will of the Father who has sent me’- He never spoke about ‘trinity’. In fact when he was asked that, ‘which is the first of the commandments’ - he said - its mentioned in the Gospel of Mark, Chapter No. 12, Verse. No. 29…Which means, ‘Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is one Lord’. But if you ask the Christian Church - in the Catechism, they tell you that the Father is a person, the Son is a person, and the Holy Ghost is a person - but they aren’t three persons, - they are one person’. Person, person, person, but not three persons - one person - What language is this? 1+1+1 is equal to 3, Its not equal to 1. 1 into 3 is 3…Not 1....isn't it interesting????

So He is Not GOD.

 

[M.RIZ]

Here I agree with Anc.Glory...Good Question..

Surely Y2K will come & say Christians believe in ‘trinity’ - the father the son and the holy ghost, and that they are one.

Also the word ‘trinity’ doesn’t exist anywhere in the Bible - Its not there in the Bible. But the word ‘trinity’ is there in the Holy Qu’ran - But the word ‘trinity’ in there in the Holy Qu’ran. The Holy Qu’ran says in Surah Nisa, Ch. 4, V. No. 171, it says…... ‘Don’t say trinity’

The closest verse that you can find in the Bible, which can be taken for ‘trinity’ is the first Epistle of John, Chapter, No. 5, Verse No. 7 which says…‘For there are three which bears record in heaven - the father, the word, and the holy Ghost - and these three are one’. This verse of the Bible, 1st Epistle of John, Chapter 5, Verse No. 7, is the closest resemblance to ‘trinity’ in the full Bible. But if you read the ‘Revised Standard Version’, which has been revised by 32 scholars of the highest eminence, backed by 50 different Christian co-operating denominations - they have removed this verse from the Bible as an interpolation, as a concoction, as a fabrication. It was not removed by Muslims or non-Christian scholars - but it was removed by 32 Christian scholars of the highest eminence backed by 50 different co-operative denominations as an interpolation, as a concoction, as a fabrication, because it was not there in the original manuscript.

In fact Jesus said in the Gospel of John, Chapter 14, Verse No. 28, ‘My father is greater than I’, Gospel of John, Chapter No. 10, Verse No. 29, ‘My father is greater than I’, Gospel of Mathew, Chapter No. 12, Verse No. 28, ‘I cast out devils with the spirit of God’. Gospel of Luke, Chapter No. 11, Verse No. 20 ‘With the finger of God, I cast out devil’, Gospel of John Chapter No. 5, Verse No. 30, ‘I can of my own self do nothing - As I hear I judge and my judgement is just - Because I seek not my will but the will of the Father who has sent me’- He never spoke about ‘trinity’. In fact when he was asked that, ‘which is the first of the commandments’ - he said - its mentioned in the Gospel of Mark, Chapter No. 12, Verse. No. 29…Which means, ‘Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is one Lord’. But if you ask the Christian Church - in the Catechism, they tell you that the Father is a person, the Son is a person, and the Holy Ghost is a person - but they aren’t three persons, - they are one person’. Person, person, person, but not three persons - one person - What language is this? 1+1+1 is equal to 3, Its not equal to 1. 1 into 3 is 3…Not 1....isn't it interesting????

So He is Not GOD.

person,person,person its three persons But some people say person,person,person=1*1*1=1 what a logic

 

[Y2K]

Still not clear, Is jesus GOD or Not? Yes or No would be sufficient. If you say son of GOD, I assume that means jesus is not GOD.

HE IS GOD !!!

 

[MS DOS]

HE IS GOD !!!

But how?

 

[Y2K]

Is Jesus Christ a man, or is he God?

Jesus Christ is most definitely God. He created Adam and Eve, the first man and woman, in his image. He is the Creator of the universe. The Bible says, “Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made” (John 1:3). This includes all the stars, all the original animals and plants, and even the angels (Colossians 1:15-17).

It is important not be confused. God did not create Jesus. Jesus is God, and he has always existed.

Jesus proved that he is God by doing many things that only God could do. These are called miracles. He made dead people alive. He walked across a great lake. He made blind eyes see perfectly again. He healed deadly diseases with a word.

 

[Y2K]

Is Jesus God? Did Jesus ever claim to be God?

It soon became apparent, however, that He was making shocking and startling statements about Himself. He began to identify Himself as far more than a remarkable teacher or prophet. He began to say clearly that He was God. He made His identity the focal point of His teaching. The all-important question He put to those who followed Him was, "Who do you say I am?" When Peter answered and said, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God"2, Jesus was not shocked, nor did He rebuke Peter. On the contrary, He commended him!

He made the claim explicitly, and His hearers got the full impact of His words. We are told, "The Jews tried all the harder to kill Him; not only was He breaking the Sabbath, but He was even calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God."3

On another occasion he said, "I and My Father are One." Immediately the Jews wanted to stone Him. He asked them for which good work they wanted to kill Him. They replied, "We are not stoning You for any of these but for blasphemy, because You, a mere man, claim to be God."4

 

[Y2K]

First tell me DO you b'live he is son of GOD ?